Obama is the most far left progressive person running for president

Barack Obama towers as the most far left progressive person running for president. And this isn't the spin of some enthusiastic supporter (in fact I've been leaning a bit towards Edwards since Michael Moore praised him), this is the objective assessment of the prestigious and authoritative National Journal which examined the totality of each candidates actual votes in three broad areas: Social issues, economic issues, and foreign policy issues.  When life time scores were compiled by the New York Times political blog, amazingly Obama towered over even ultra progressive Kucinich.

Senator Barack Obama......................84.3
Representative Dennis Kucinich........79.4
Senator Christopher J. Dodd .............79.2
Senator Hiliary Rodham Clinton ......78.8
Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr...............76.8

Source:  http://www.majorityrules.org/blog/2007/0 3/senator-barack-obama-more-liberal-than .html

If all that weren't progressive enough, when you factor in Obama's Illinois senate record, he becomes off the charts progressive:

Illinois Senate
Health care: In 2004, sponsored the Health Care Justice Act, which called for a study of a single-payer health-care system for the state.
Minimum wage: In 2004, voted in favor of raising the minimum wage in Illinois to $6.50 an hour, up from $5.15 an hour.
Stem cell research: In 2004, backed legislation endorsing embryonic stem cell research.
Gay rights: In 2003, co-sponsored legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation.
Abortion: In 2001, voted against a bill designed to protect what backers termed live babies born during abortion procedures. The bill did not become law.
Ethics: In 1998, co-sponsored a bipartisan-backed package of legislation that overhauled state ethics laws.
SOURCES: Illinois General Assembly; U.S. Senate

Edwards has the most progressive sounding message right now, but if you look at the totality of their records and examine them objectively, Obama towers as the most progressive candidate. Not only is he the most progressive but he was progressive on the most important issues such as the war. Obama and Kucinich were the only two who opposed the war BEFORE it began. He has also been progressive in his willingness to meet with foreign leaders without preconditions.  Being progressive on foreign policy issues are especially important because they involve matters of war and peace, and affect the entire world, not just Americans.
Edwards is running a great progressive message right now, but I suspect that would change if he surged in the polls and had to start thinking about the general election. Hence I look at the overall record, and don't just cherry pick from recent rhetoric.  You can prove anything about anyone by selective and biased interpretation of data.  It's much wiser to look at the aggregate data, as compiled by an independent authority like the National Jouranl.

Tags: Barack Obama, National Journal, progressive record (all tags)

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Re: Obama is the most far left progressive person

Barack Obama towers as the most " far left progressive " person running for president.

- You just made him less attractive to me as a second choice , luckily he is not making such a claim.

I see Obama as a pragmatic progressive ,now he might be on the left , center , right doesn't make a big difference to me. As long as he governs from the middle and can implement a progressive agenda.

Look everyone running for election as to win , so I don't blame anyone for executing a strategy that would get him or her to the finish line

by lori 2008-01-04 12:38PM | 0 recs
National Journal?

Is this a joke?
There are established organizations which have long determined liberal to conservative ratings.  None of them would come up with this cherry picked list of nonsense.

Obama is slightly less "liberal" than Clinton on almost all of those rankings.  Edwards, because of his conservative record in the senate is much less liberal, but is running a much more liberal campaign in terms of policy than Obama is.

Obama is not liberal or progressive.  At the moment he is running a Lieberman campaign, appealing to the middle and bashing democrats to do so.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-04 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal?

I think you'd have to be pretty deluded to think that Hillary is more progressive than Barack Obama. Rupert Murdoch held a fundraiser for Hillary, and he's the king of right-wing media. The National Journal is the gold standard, has been around for decades, and their methodology is extremely comprehensive.

by countmein 2008-01-04 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama is the most far left progressive

Ok could you tell me when DLCer's Hillary and Edwards suddenly became progressives?

by TennesseeGurl 2008-01-04 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama is the most far left progressive person

Ah yes, the good old National Journal rankings that the RNC used to call Kerry and Edwards the first and fourth most liberal members of the Senate. Quite a reliable source you have there.

Look at what each candidate is proposing in this campaign, that is a much more reliable indicator of how they would govern. By that standard Obama is closer to Biden.

by souvarine 2008-01-04 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama is the most far left progressive person

What each person is proposing is just rhetoric.  Obama has a track record of progressive action.

by countmein 2008-01-04 01:38PM | 0 recs
interesting notion of action

Looking at your "off the charts progressive" actions:

Illinois UHC: He commissioned it to death.
Minimum wage: What Democrat hasn't been fighting to raise it? Clinton has been leading that fight for years.
Stem cell: Hello? That is a basic plank of the Democratic platform.
Gay rights: his record is mixed, Clinton gets more support from GLBT orgs for a reason.
Abortion: ugh, very mixed, nothing compared to Clinton.
Ethics: Hey! His signature issue along with his buddy Joe Lieberman.

One out of six is ... pretty bad.

As for Obama's liberal track record, read National Journal's own explanation of how misleading their rankings can be when a candidate misses lots of votes. Obama has one of the worst attendance records of any candidate.

BTW, National Journal's rankings are not comprehensive, they are based on "several dozen votes in three broad issue areas." For a ranking based on comprehensive voting record, rather than cherry picked votes, look at Progressive Punch and you will see that Obama is ranked 43rd compared to 29th for Clinton. Obama ranks 24th for lifetime versus 16th for Clinton.

Bottom line: Obama is a moderate to conservative Democrat.

by souvarine 2008-01-04 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: interesting notion of action

The National Journal is the gold standard and is far more authoritative than Progressive Punch.  They use several dozen votes every year that distinguish senators along ideological dimensions, and Obama ranks highest over a life time and that's even excluding his Illinois record where he was considered ultra-liberal.  He's indisputably far to the left of Hillary, who was the only dem candidate to vote for the Lieberman resolution on Iran.  The most you can criticize Obama for is being  nice to Lieberman.  Hillary was also part of the Clinton administration, and progressive hero Michael Moore described Clinton as the best republican president America ever had. He moved the party so far to the right that Nader felt compelled to run in 2000.

by countmein 2008-01-04 06:07PM | 0 recs
Re: interesting notion of action

Dick Durbin, the Illinois senior Senator who is ranked much more liberal than Obama on the National Journal score, also voted for Kyl/Lieberman. I happen to agree with Durbin, Clinton and a number of other very liberal Senators who voted for that amendment, too bad Obama did not have the courage to vote at all.

If Nader and Moore are your progressive heroes then I can't agree with your ideology, I actually believe in the Democratic party.

As I pointed out, National Journal itself makes the case that their methodology works poorly with Senators who miss many votes (such as Kyl/Lieberman). But you do not appear to be interested in furthering the discussion.

by souvarine 2008-01-04 07:52PM | 0 recs
Re: interesting notion of action

No one is disputing that the methodology works better the larger your sample of votes, but I believe we have a large enough sample to get an idea where Obama stands (and Obama made clear at the time his opposition Kyl/Lieberman) especially when you factor in his ultra-progressive Illinois record. And it is possible for someone with a good progressive record overall to vote conservative on some issues, however it's disturbing when they do so on foreign policy issues, because these have massive ramifications for the entire world, not just for Americans.

by countmein 2008-01-05 05:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama is the most far left progressive person

"In 2001, voted against a bill designed to protect what backers termed live babies born during abortion procedures."

This bill would have required doctors to treat babies that survived abortion. The federal that mandates it was introduced by Hillary Clinton.

You want to compare judgment, there it is. Obama would let babies die. Hillary wouldn't.  

by ThinkingDem 2008-01-04 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama is the most far left progressive person

How do you think that would play in a general election. Pretty badly imo and I'm pro choice. Seems kind of extreme.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-04 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama is the most far left progressive

The time to oppose the war in Iraq was before the war began.  Now that the war has started and the situation has become chaotic, there are no good solutions. Just bad solutions, and worse solutions. And pulling out too impulsively, before the country is back on its feet could do more harm than good.

by countmein 2008-01-04 01:41PM | 0 recs

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