Motley Moose. The Blog for the Bully Boys Who Love to Hate MyDD


This diary is about what's bad and way weird about coming back to blog on the innertubes.

I mean huh?

Whats with those who come to this site only to insult the diarists and of course, Jerome.  By a quick google search with the name of the worst abuser of this site (and my personal stalker) I found the net home of these Super Duper Uber Trolls.

Its called the Motley Moose.

Its a weblog comprised of a small group of Obama royalists who formed their own site because they hated when myDD became a refuge for Hillary supporters in 2008.

But still they came to myDD and worked to drive away any Obama dissent or dissenters from this site in 2008.  (They called it Puma hunting)

They still come back to monitor myDD and whenever anything is said at this site that is not inside their defined boundaries of what is allowed to be discussed - they salt the earth of the place that they worked to destroy.

Their attitude and the way they have acted towards MyDD reminds me of the famous quote from an Army officer accused of atrocities in Vietnam, "we had to destroy the village in order to save it."

These are your thought policemen. They define the limits of what you are allowed to say about Obama.  You are not allowed to share an opinion that - they define - as damaging to their Obama.  They want you to sign their loyalty oath - or they will taunt, insult and pester you to death.

For all their talk of party loyalty - they sure have big bags of hate hanging from their eyelids for fully half of the Democratic Party..

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Is this a Moose? Is that their fraternal club cap?... 

His name is Explosive Impact - His strange hobby is being a Cyber Bully

 

 

Get ready for a real heavy dose of heavy snide condensation and cyber buly boy boasting from right there in the center of pseudo intellectual obama apologist fanboy land.

Ive brought to you a diary and all its comments from the Royal world of the ultimate source of myDD uber trolls - the Motley Moose.

Its some heavy stuff - these net nerd blog bullies are all jacked up on their obvious superiority (hey - they discuss Homer!) and like a nest of 12 year old pre-teen young ladies - these aged juveniles sure do love to encourage each other to go all catty and "mean girl" on someone that thinks differently when it comes to their homecoming King (swoon...) and master.  Heavens forbid if you don't feel the "One" is "all that".

This Moose place is the land where his majesty Obama is King and if you dont bow to their "precious" low enough for them - oh my!  Off with your...

My fave-o-rite part of their site - besides its royalist Purple design color scheme  - is that it actually has up in the corner of the blog , like its logo, or secret club talisman - the Seal of the White House.  Yup, the Seal of the White House.

Oh my fanboys...you are pretty Star Struck and Silly indeed.

Now let me present a recent diary and thread from this Motley Moose -

its all about how much they just hate myDD and tales of their adventures when they come here to bash down the infidels with their brand of juvenile mean girl, attention seeking - look at me - taunting, stalking, insulting trouble.

If you wonder why so many people have left myDD, been run away - wonder no more - its these net nerd bully boys here below.  

You'll recognize quite a few names as those that come here passive-aggressively lamenting the good ol days of mydd and then jump quickly to how this place now is such a vile disgrace and how they simply just despise ol' Jerome.

Thump-Thump-Thump!

Hypocrites...

These boys just can't suffer anybody that has any opinion that differs from their lil groups think.

Like the once abused nerd geeks boys they once surely all were - they just LOVE the intertubes because behind their screens - they get to now be bullies too.  Fun!

(guess it makes them feel, strong, important..virile..uh huh...something, who knows, who cares?) 

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ok - here a youtube commenter on the way "mean girls" "play" the internet.

This actual teen gal may not know the Illiad from the Odyssey - but she's got simple wisdom and a decency these mydd cyber stalkers will never share.

 internet bullies, you're not cool. (;

There was a lot more of their "I so hate those ignorant Puma Teabaggers at myDD" stuff , but I couldnt get it to copy and paste easily and really couldnt be bothered to try...

Look for the familiar names of this sites abusers - the diary is written by troll #1

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And now for something completely indifferent...

By: StrummersonSun Oct 31, 2010 at 17:14:01 PM EDT

In the midst of all this impending Tea Party Triumphalism, I popped over to the old D for some nostalgia and comic relief.  If you think that Jack Landsman jumped that place over a few hundred sharks as a frontpager, he's got nothing on changeagain2012.

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mydd (2.00 / 4) is pure garbage.  when 'richard flatts' is the clear-eyed, level headed thinker of the lot, you've got problems.  the site is dead.

what. the. fuck.

 

Not the only time

There definitely is a sect out there that are are forcefully pushing hate politics. I was reminded by this of the election day harassment to voters at the voting area. Maybe you remember the two men of the New Black Panther organization outside of a voting area in Philadelphia with night sticks, or billy clubs. This type of thuggery, unfortunately, are also a demographic voting base for president Obama.  And it seems that Jerome was extending a violent arm to the online internet world as well.

by jeffrtho 2010-10-29 05:10PM | login to reply | 0 recs

what. the. fuck.

by: fogiv @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 17:40:14 PM CDT

 

mydd (2.00 / 4)

is pure garbage.

If only it was dead.... (2.00 / 4)

...It's the living undead. Pumas, Trots, Wolverines and the odd indicted Vampire still stalk that land.  

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 18:12:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Thanks Strummerson (2.00 / 4)

 

by: Shaun Appleby @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 20:28:01 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I could talk about this for hours... though might need a kip beforehand.  

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 21:09:33 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

So this SHOULD finally get me banned. (2.00 / 3)

Hey changeagain2012 

Congrats on your front page status!

This'll show the o-bot fanboy royalist enforcer thugs.  From the ashes of their storm-trooping, vicious, savage, thought policing, soul crushing, party killing pumacidal holocaust, the voice of a true progressive rises.

 

The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice.

 

NEVER AGAIN!!!

 

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RE: Hey changeagain2012 

your type are  smug, snide, silly and less than useless.

 

a perfect example of a online oboma royalist.

 

hope you enjoy election night - your type sure did EARN it.

 

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RE: Hey changeagain2012 

OK.  You don't like snide, I'll give it to you straight.

 

First, I don't have a "type."  I don't leap to pre-judging others by forcing them into "types" either.  Your posture as the object of political repression shows a total lack of historical perspective and ethics.  Read a book, you stupid fuck.  Real blood has been spilled, voices have actually been silenced, entire peoples and perspectives have been materially marginalized with actual weapons and at the cost of actual lives.  Some of them in my own family.  This poseurism is offensive to anyone who is actually engaged in the history of progressive politics, or history in general.  It's the same self-aggrandizing bullshit victimology exhibited by the tea thugs.  Just the mirror image.  Anyone been interred in a re-education camp, sent to the gulag, disappeared in the past two years?  Don't even try to equate anything that has happened with political repression.  It's disgusting.  Beneath contempt.

 

It's your "silly" mentality that paints everyone who disagrees with your self-serving tone and absolutist perspective.  You reveal yourself as a hypocrite by using your supposed victimhood to attack others.  You don't like vicious savage name-calling?  Don't call others names.  You don't want to be branded with a broad brush, don't paint everyone else with a broad brush.  I agree with many of the critiques of Obama, but you wouldn't know that, because you are too busy pigeon-holing people so that your limited worldview can make sense of them.  For the record, I have no real beef with Jerome.  I don't always agree with him.  If he wants to ban me, then fine.  But it won't be because I showed him any disrespect.  And while you are busy defending him, remember that he's no victim.  He runs the place.  He can ban whomever he likes at any time.  He banned plenty whom you would label "o-bots" during the primary and afterwards.  I know it doesn't fit your idiotic narrative, but that's how it works.

 

I'll remember your description of me as "less than useless" when I am putting aside my students and my family to work GOTV this Tues. to try to "earn" something positive while you will no doubt be crafting another self-righteous diatribe and reveling in your glorious grievances.

 

So let loose another bile-soaked diatribe that accomplishes nothing.

 

Just remember that YOU are why moderates and independents mock liberals and progressives.  You are a fucking cartoon.  I've just been letting off some steam with you and providing you with more rope.  Now I have a life to get back to.

 

That's what I really think.

 

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The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 18:36:33 PM CDT

Zinger! (2.00 / 3)

You've tempted me back to the snake pit. Just putting on my hazmat suit and off I go...

MYDD these days makes Alegre's corner look sober, rational and balanced.  

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 18:53:05 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

OH NOOOOO! (2.00 / 3)

Don't get sucked in mate.

Not worth it.

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:22:46 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

TOOO LAAAATE! (2.00 / 3)

Argh. I've been sucked into a dark vortex of fail. I'm over the event horizon of moronality...

All my intelligence has been squished into that MYDD singularity of stoopid.  

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:42:05 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

d00dz (2.00 / 4)

MyDD is only one rung above ---> this place <--- of 'teh crazy' ladder (just waiting for the new platform rollout).

 

by: fogiv @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:58:40 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

That's practically Miltonic!!! (2.00 / 4)

Maybe I'll teach it next semester.

It certainly displays more imagination than anything changeagain types.

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 20:09:32 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Please tell me that was (2.00 / 5)

written by a poorly programed AI and not the creation of a living brain.

 

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis 

by: John Allen @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 20:23:05 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Well... (2.00 / 5)

It's certainly an improvement on "the Earth is flat" by one dimension.

by: Shaun Appleby @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 20:25:51 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

 

Bloody formatting (2.00 / 3) Of course the dodgy software posted it twice, but why are the new trolls on MYDD so illiterate and uninventive these days. I blame the US education system.

Here's the unscrewed up comment:

 

Hi

My names Brit. And I'm an Obama Royalty Enforcer thug,

Let me come clean. This has been weighing on my conscience for too long now. I need to atone, make reparations, confess.

Like most other Koolaid drinkers I'm a British MI6 double agents (or is my Brit handle a triple bluff? Who knows?). During the Primaries we got on our jack boots and stormed all over this place, mainly because we're trying to undo the American Declaration of Independence. Forget your President being a Nazi Muslim Communist. That's the least of your worries. Obama is a secret Brit, born in a former British colonies, and we're going to take our country back, and funnel out all the wealth you've created with your high valued housing stock and banking industry...

Oh. OK.That didn't work. So we deliberately spoilt oil everywhere. Oh yeah. And dominated your TV shows with secret Fifth Columnist Brits speaking in convincing American accents.

The annoying thing is that we had nearly achieved this spectacular reconquista of our old colonies, when you come along and blow the gaff. Thanks to cogent, brave and articulate Lexington militia like you, we've been foiled in our devious plan, and MYDD has been rescued..

As to your points, you're completely correct.

1. All through the primaries this site was filled with Obamabot diaries on the rec list.

2. Fearless freedom fighters like Texas Darlin, Universal and Alegre were consistently denigrated, silenced, censored, imprisoned and tortured by Koolaid drinkers who did like 'argue back', and said Obama could win the election, that he wasn't a Muslim, or lying about his academic career.

Our devious Stalinist Gestapo then pulled the ultimate trick of 'changing reality' and making Obama win the election just to make all those people look stupid.

That's really evil

3. All through this time, Jerome was a model of reasonableness and reconciliation, standing above the fray, almost a God Like figure of sagacity and kindness, who never arbitrarily banned people, or made content free comments against those who disagreed with him, or added abusive tags, or otherwise showed anything other than cool political analysis and judgement.

4. All politics is about being For or Against Obama. Nothing else matters. Political logic, reason, debate be damned. This site would thrive if it just became more Anti Obama.  It would be more progressive. It would be live an unpredictable. Illiterate and uniformed trolls would never post here again. And Jerome would be a millionaire. With so few Anti Obama sites out there (thanks to us Royalist thugs) MYDD would get all the traffic.

5. Do you have a girlfriend or boyfriend? Because I think I love you



Moose Juice; debate without hate 
by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:20:15 PM CDTParent ]Moose Juice;Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:20:15 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

You Limeys... (2.00 / 4)

Are scrappy fighters, no doubt about that.

by: Shaun Appleby @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:23:23 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Actually... (2.00 / 4)

...I'm pretty damn sure I love YOU Brit.  Snarklessly...

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:26:16 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

It's mutual, mate (2.00 / 3)

Big manly gruff hug from this side of the pond

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Sun Oct 31, 2010 at 19:38:50 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

It's been a long time since I've seen one of these from you. (2.00 / 3)

Yup. You've still got the "flamey" touch. I am glad I have never been on the other side of one of these.

How can you ever come back from that ?

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 11:04:56 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

You think I pwned him (2.00 / 2)

Check out Strummerson's consummate destruction in my diary. I thinks this tops my response by quite a long way. The last two lines (I'll bold them) are stirring, classic, and should go down as the ulimate rejoinder to internet threats of violence

All hail the glorious sainted martyrdom of changeagain2012!

Let's see:

 

You oppose hijacking other peoples' diaries.  

 

BUT here you are.  What does this have to do with the diarist?

 

You oppose insults and personal attacks.

 

BUT you come into this diary to do nothing but attack and threaten me.

 

You want nothing to do with me.

 

BUT you carry over our dispute from another thread into this one.

 

Funny.  If it looks like a hypocrite.  If it types like a hypocrite.  You know the rest.

 

As for blaming me (and my "type," you ridiculous bigot) for destroying MYDD.  This is absurd.  Just part of your twisted persecution complex.  It's a bit circular, you see.  Just because you can't justify this tripe means that you are being bullied.  The fact that someone is willing to stand up to this tripe that you cannot justify means that you are being bullied.  Because you are being bullied, you think your tripe is justified.

 

Wake up.  It's your "type" of PUMA delusion diaries that destroyed the traffic on this site.  

 

And your boast of being involved in politics at the WH level loses credibility with every post you type.  It's just really hard to believe that the Clintons would have kept this level of thinking around.

 

But what do I know.  I'm no professional political operative like yourself.  Just a committed activist who thinks that you are trying to aid and abet the enthusiasm gap on the eve of a critical election.  It's not what we need right now.  But of course, your website grievances MUST take precedence.  Shame on you.

 

For the record, if you did take a swing at me...

 

...I wouldn't blink before turning my back and walking away.  Who's the thug?

 

 

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 15:13:06 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Really seems to be a new iteration (2.00 / 4)

of aliveandkicking.

 

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis 

by: John Allen @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 15:24:53 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

yep, exactly (2.00 / 2)

...and mumbaiburns, and ______, and _____, and _____ (ad naseum)

 

It's a terrible thing to look over your shoulder when you are trying to lead, and find no one there. -Franklin Roosevelt 

by: fogiv @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 19:55:58 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

This poster summed it up best. (2.00 / 5)

hahaha

Just when I thought there couldn't be a worse front-pager than Jack Landsman, you go and prove me wrong.

 

by Vox Populi 2010-10-31 08:44PM | login to reply | 1 recs

 

If I recall correctly Charles banned the previous aliveandkickin sockpuppet.

 

Now he's frontpaging and Charles Lemos is gone. Way to run a blog Jerome.

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 20:39:00 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

This got a chuckle out of me. (2.00 / 3)

"Way to run a blog Jerome."

 

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis 

by: John Allen @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 20:46:41 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

not only that... (2.00 / 3)

but the new sock is a front pager?  kooky.  or JA is trolling his own site again, and less concerned how obvious it is.  still kooky.

 

It's a terrible thing to look over your shoulder when you are trying to lead, and find no one there. -Franklin Roosevelt 

by: fogiv @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 21:59:31 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

wow (2.00 / 3)

I can't believe it's Jerome.  Painting himself as a martyr?  Now THAT would really be sick.

I was really hoping for a ban.  I don't know if I have the willpower to stay away from the righteous schadenfreudefest that it's gonna be for the next week over there...

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:05:03 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

schadenfreudefest? (2.00 / 2)

Perfect German compound noun...

I'm stealing that one.

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 05:56:04 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

You can't steal (2.00 / 2)

what is freely offered.

And Jerome is already distributing part hats.  I'll save you the peptic disturbance of checking the front page as this is the best bit:

 

"MyDD: Still on beta... will crash and burn early. Save it for another day.

 

Fallout: Of course this mid-term result is more a rejection of the Democrats, and specifically Obama politics, than it is an embrace of the Republicans. The Obama loyalists will say they are reality-based and that Obama wasn't on the ballot. White liberal intellectuals imply that any potential Democratic '12 challenger is being racially divisive."

 

And changeagain is cuddling up to you.  He wants to get together over "brown liquid and smokes" to talk about his buddy Hitchens.  All you Brits apparently know one another in his universe.  Just like I know Philip Roth and Anthony Weiner (picked two that I'd like to, but it could be Foxman and Frum as well).

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 06:45:23 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Surely.... (2.00 / 2)

...Jerome is a vivid example why the progressive left is so weak in American politics. It's all ego and attitudinising. He can't even organise a decent set of frontpagers, let alone a political campaign. Unfortunately I see traits of that in Kos (aswell of Huffington and Hamsher of course). Radical individualism, often collapsing into pure narcissism, is the opposite of organisation and solidarity. I know the latter can decline into Orwellian collectivism... but don't these people understand the basic principles of political power. You have to work with people you don't like.

End of mini rant.

 

As T.S. Eliot said "a bad writer borrows, a good writer steals" so I'm still going to commit some petty larceny on your neologism

 

I noticed the sickening buddy up from deranged idiot on MYDD. I'm not quite sure how to respond. Maybe love bomb him into total meltdown. However, since the guy has no shame, I can't really embarrass any further than he has already embarrassed himself.

 

Think I'll just keep away for a while. We're both wasting our talents on someone too ridiculous and needy for words.

 

Mind you, I enjoyed the put downs. Good practice for a more important opponent in the future.

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 06:56:30 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Think tactically. (2.00 / 3)

Be good cop.  Just a gesture.  Maybe in 6 months the place will regain a bit of relevance and you'll be able to use his cozying up to create a sliver of sane space in which to actually make an argument.

Frankly, I'm a bit torn.  Even when I disagree with folks here, it's usually so agreeable and pleasant that it doesn't seem consequential.  Probably just a perceptual thing.  I already have a group of very longstanding friends back east I do this with over email.  Sparring and supporting.

 

But DKos is so enormous and MYDD is so sad.  Dunno.

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 07:05:17 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

He's Just Trying... (2.00 / 1)

To slyly get Brit to out himself so he can attack him personally.  Seen it before.  Brit, don't lower your guard.

by: Shaun Appleby @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:18:21 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I'm pretty sure (2.00 / 2)

that this incarnation of whomever lacks such sophistication.

He's sincerely delusional.  He's looking for validation that he's not who he senses he is.

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:24:24 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Yeah... (2.00 / 2)

That too.  But my guess is this little troll is tricksy and has some resources, from past performance.

by: Shaun Appleby @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:48:49 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Frankly though (2.00 / 2)

I've been through these games so many times: once a troll always a troll. I really can't be arsed.  

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:51:46 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

and btw (2.00 / 3)

I've already got my "I Voted" sticker on.

Wife's dropping the older two, coming back for the baby, and headed for the polls herself.  No freaking enthusiasm gap in this household.

 

Sometimes I just vote in order to keep the mechanism available.  Form counts, even when content is distressing.

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 07:09:24 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

You double agent line reminded me of this article I read in the New Yorker recently... (2.00 / 3)

... on the awesomeness of British spies.

I've always liked Malcolm Gladwell even when I don't agree with him. He makes me think and consider things in a different light. So I was pleasantly suprised when I discovered this piece. I love WW2 history and spy stories so it was the perfect storm of spiff bait.

 

Operation Mincemeat and spycraft in World War 2

 

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/...

 

The Germans did not realize-until it was too late-that "William Martin" was a fiction. The man they took to be a high-level courier was a mentally ill vagrant who had eaten rat poison; his body had been liberated from a London morgue and dressed up in officer's clothing. The letter was a fake, and the frantic messages between London and Madrid a carefully choreographed act. When a hundred and sixty thousand Allied troops invaded Sicily on July 10, 1943, it became clear that the Germans had fallen victim to one of the most remarkable deceptions in modern military history.

The story of Major William Martin is the subject of the British journalist Ben Macintyre's brilliant and almost absurdly entertaining "Operation Mincemeat" (Harmony; $25.99). The cast of characters involved in Mincemeat, as the caper was called, was extraordinary, and Macintyre tells their stories with gusto. The ringleader was Ewen Montagu, the son of a wealthy Jewish banker and the brother of Ivor Montagu, a pioneer of table tennis and also, in one of the many strange footnotes to the Mincemeat case, a Soviet spy. Ewen Montagu served on the so-called Twenty Committee of the British intelligence services, and carried a briefcase full of classified documents on his bicycle as he rode to work each morning.

 

The British are so cool. 

 

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 11:45:47 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

I like Gladwell's essays better than his books (2.00 / 3)

And this is a new one to me, so thanks.

I've got some of Ben Macintyre's books (from the airport) and never read them, but will.

 

Since the German's had better technology (except for aircraft) we had to resort to all kinds of dodgy tricks throughout world war 2, and well into the Cold War. Ian Fleming worked for Naval Intelligence, and created James Bond out of various characters he met from the wartime Special Operations Executive.  Many of their missions were kept secret till now.

 

But the best bit of all was the great Gay Mathematician and scientist Alan Turing, who not only conceived of the future of computing, he also (through cracking Naval enigma codes) probably shortened the war by 2 years. The code cracking brought Atlantic convoy resupply back up to strength for D-Day.

 

One famous story I remember from Turing's biography. He was taught by the famously terse and difficult Austrian born philosopher Wittgenstein. The latter used to taunt Turing over all his work on artificial intelligence, binary calculation and the Universal Telling Machine, saying "How will any of your games with numbers do anything to change the world?"

 

Er.... Oops.

 

Sadly Turing was chemically castrated because of his sexuality, and died far too young as a result of the side effects.  

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 11:56:17 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Truth is stranger than fiction (and more interesting) and all that. (2.00 / 2)

Alan Turing sounds like a fascinating character.

I think I'm going to see if I can download it to my Kindle.

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 00:54:54 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Just read the whole essay... (2.00 / 3)

and it's a wonderful summation of the problems of intelligence gathering and analysis, with obvious reference to Iraqi WMD.

But I underestimated the importance of fiction in the whole operation.

 

The idea for Operation Mincemeat, Macintyre tells us, had its roots in a mystery story written by Basil Thomson, a former head of Scotland Yard's criminal-investigation unit. Thomson was the author of a dozen detective stories, and his 1937 book "The Milliner's Hat Mystery" begins with the body of a dead man carrying a set of documents that turn out to be forged. "The Milliner's Hat Mystery" was read by Ian Fleming, who worked for naval intelligence. Fleming helped create something called the Trout Memo, which contained a series of proposals for deceiving the Germans, including this idea of a dead man carrying forged documents. The memo was passed on to John Masterman, the head of the Twenty Committee-of which Montagu and Cholmondeley were members. Masterman, who also wrote mysteries on the side, starring an Oxford don and a Sherlock Holmes-like figure, loved the idea. Mincemeat, Macintyre writes, "began as fiction, a plot twist in a long-forgotten novel, picked up by another novelist, and approved by a committee presided over by yet another novelist. 

 

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 12:22:03 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Epic takedown! (2.00 / 3)

 

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 10:58:26 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Repetitive rants. Check. (2.00 / 4)

Typos. Check.

Obviously trollish behavior. Check.

 

Yup. aliveandkickin a.k.a. mumbaiburns a.k.a. (forgot his other handles)

 

This person seriously needs help. He is obsessed with that blog.

 

Nice to see you around Strummerson! 

 

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 10:58:06 AM CDT

Must be.... (2.00 / 3)

...he/she/it is still stewing over the primary wars.

Good catch.

 

Moose Juice; debate without hate 

by: Brit @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 11:15:13 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

ludwigvan? (2.00 / 3)

Good to see you too Spiff.

Bracing for the worst.  Praying for a mitigated defeat.

 

We'll do what we can this round and rally on the next one.

 

btw, why do these trolls all claim insider status?  This joker seems to believe he was doing "WH level" political work 10 years ago or so.  ludwigvan claimed to be friendly with both Clintons.

 

FWIW, Bill has been really out there this round.  I'm hoping this positions him to be a real asset in 2012.  Seems like neither of the Clintons despise the current administration like their "devoted supporters."  

 

The future is unwritten 

by: Strummerson @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 21:11:03 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Good to see you too! (2.00 / 3)

I've been reading your comments all day. I've lol'd hard! I hadn't gone over there in some time. Surprised Jerome frontpaged an obvious troll. That place hasn't been relevant in years. Elections are here and MyDD is getting page hits because it has a new troll. That about sums it up.

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 00:48:51 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

My Guess... (2.00 / 2)

Is that it's Holden Caulfield.  The Malcolm-X 'bamboozled' diarist, among others.

by: Shaun Appleby @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 20:56:57 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

all the same, methinks. (2.00 / 1)

 

 

It's a terrible thing to look over your shoulder when you are trying to lead, and find no one there. -Franklin Roosevelt 

by: fogiv @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:00:39 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

What a bag of douche (2.00 / 5)

The entire fp lineup over there is.  It is absolutely hillis44 land.  Disgusting.  Glad the forum software does not let me post from my iPad.

 

Howard Dean is my guy. (in a strictly nonsexual fashion) 

by: lojasmo @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 18:09:07 PM CDT

bag of douche. (2.00 / 2)

lol!

 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 00:49:47 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Glad to know it's still a sewer (2.00 / 5)

I haven't been there since the general election two years ago. It sounds like I haven't missed much.

by: rfahey22 @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:03:13 PM CDT

Hey, stranger (2.00 / 6)

Good to see you.

 

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis 

by: John Allen @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:18:25 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

You too. It's been a crazy few months. (2.00 / 4)

Work's been a little crazy.  That, and the last year to year and a half has been depressing from a political perspective.  But, I guess now we'll have Republicans to rail against, rather than other Democrats, which will be a nice change of pace. 

 

 Yup. You've still got the "flamey" touch. I am glad I have never been on the other side of one of these. How can you ever come back from that ? - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 11:04:56 AM CDT [ Parent ] You think I pwned him (2.00 / 2) Check out Strummerson's consummate destruction in my diary. I thinks this tops my response by quite a long way. The last two lines (I'll bold them) are stirring, classic, and should go down as the ulimate rejoinder to internet threats of violence All hail the glorious sainted martyrdom of changeagain2012! Let's see: You oppose hijacking other peoples' diaries.   BUT here you are.  What does this have to do with the diarist? You oppose insults and personal attacks. BUT you come into this diary to do nothing but attack and threaten me. You want nothing to do with me. BUT you carry over our dispute from another thread into this one. Funny.  If it looks like a hypocrite.  If it types like a hypocrite.  You know the rest. As for blaming me (and my "type," you ridiculous bigot) for destroying MYDD.  This is absurd.  Just part of your twisted persecution complex.  It's a bit circular, you see.  Just because you can't justify this tripe means that you are being bullied.  The fact that someone is willing to stand up to this tripe that you cannot justify means that you are being bullied.  Because you are being bullied, you think your tripe is justified. Wake up.  It's your "type" of PUMA delusion diaries that destroyed the traffic on this site.   And your boast of being involved in politics at the WH level loses credibility with every post you type.  It's just really hard to believe that the Clintons would have kept this level of thinking around. But what do I know.  I'm no professional political operative like yourself.  Just a committed activist who thinks that you are trying to aid and abet the enthusiasm gap on the eve of a critical election.  It's not what we need right now.  But of course, your website grievances MUST take precedence.  Shame on you. For the record, if you did take a swing at me... ...I wouldn't blink before turning my back and walking away.  Who's the thug?

Moose Juice; debate without hate  by: Brit @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 15:13:06 PM CDT [ Parent ] Really seems to be a new iteration (2.00 / 4) of aliveandkicking.

yep, exactly (2.00 / 2) ...and mumbaiburns, and ______, and _____, and _____ (ad naseum)

: fogiv @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 19:55:58 PM CDT [ Parent ] This poster summed it up best. (2.00 / 5) hahaha Just when I thought there couldn't be a worse front-pager than Jack Landsman, you go and prove me wrong. by Vox Populi 2010-10-31 08:44PM | login to reply | 1 recs

If I recall correctly Charles banned the previous aliveandkickin sockpuppet. Now he's frontpaging and Charles Lemos is gone. Way to run a blog Jerome.

(2.00 / 3) "Way to run a blog Jerome."

[ Parent ] not only that... (2.00 / 3) but the new sock is a front pager?  kooky.  or JA is trolling his own site again, and less concerned how obvious it is.  still kooky.

by: fogiv @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 21:59:31 PM CDT [ Parent ] wow (2.00 / 3) I can't believe it's Jerome.  Painting himself as a martyr?  Now THAT would really be sick. I was really hoping for a ban.  I don't know if I have the willpower to stay away from the righteous schadenfreudefest that it's gonna be for the next week over there... The future is unwritten  by: Strummerson @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:05:03 PM CDT [ Parent ]

schadenfreudefest? (2.00 / 2) Perfect German compound noun... I'm stealing that one. Moose Juice; debate without hate  by: Brit @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 05:56:04 AM CDT [ Parent ] You can't steal (2.00 / 2) what is freely offered. And Jerome is already distributing part hats.  I'll save you the peptic disturbance of checking the front page as this is the best bit: "MyDD: Still on beta... will crash and burn early. Save it for another day. Fallout: Of course this mid-term result is more a rejection of the Democrats, and specifically Obama politics, than it is an embrace of the Republicans. The Obama loyalists will say they are reality-based and that Obama wasn't on the ballot. White liberal intellectuals imply that any potential Democratic '12 challenger is being racially divisive." And changeagain is cuddling up to you.  He wants to get together over "brown liquid and smokes" to talk about his buddy Hitchens.  All you Brits apparently know one another in his universe.  Just like I know Philip Roth and Anthony Weiner (picked two that I'd like to, but it could be Foxman and Frum as well). The future is unwritten  by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 06:45:23 AM CDT [ Parent ]

Surely.... (2.00 / 2) ...Jerome is a vivid example why the progressive left is so weak in American politics. It's all ego and attitudinising. He can't even organise a decent set of frontpagers, let alone a political campaign. Unfortunately I see traits of that in Kos (aswell of Huffington and Hamsher of course). Radical individualism, often collapsing into pure narcissism, is the opposite of organisation and solidarity. I know the latter can decline into Orwellian collectivism... but don't these people understand the basic principles of political power. You have to work with people you don't like. End of mini rant. As T.S. Eliot said "a bad writer borrows, a good writer steals" so I'm still going to commit some petty larceny on your neologism I noticed the sickening buddy up from deranged idiot on MYDD. I'm not quite sure how to respond. Maybe love bomb him into total meltdown. However, since the guy has no shame, I can't really embarrass any further than he has already embarrassed himself. Think I'll just keep away for a while. We're both wasting our talents on someone too ridiculous and needy for words. Mind you, I enjoyed the put downs. Good practice for a more important opponent in the future. Moose Juice; debate without hate  by: Brit @

Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 06:56:30 AM CDT [ Parent ] Think tactically. (2.00 / 3) Be good cop.  Just a gesture.  Maybe in 6 months the place will regain a bit of relevance and you'll be able to use his cozying up to create a sliver of sane space in which to actually make an argument. Frankly, I'm a bit torn.  Even when I disagree with folks here, it's usually so agreeable and pleasant that it doesn't seem consequential.  Probably just a perceptual thing.  I already have a group of very longstanding friends back east I do this with over email.  Sparring and supporting. But DKos is so enormous and MYDD is so sad.  Dunno. The future is unwritten  by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 07:05:17 AM CDT [ Parent ]

He's Just Trying... (2.00 / 1) To slyly get Brit to out himself so he can attack him personally.  Seen it before.  Brit, don't lower your guard. by: Shaun Appleby @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:18:21 PM CDT [ Parent ]

I'm pretty sure (2.00 / 2) that this incarnation of whomever lacks such sophistication. He's sincerely delusional.  He's looking for validation that he's not who he senses he is. The future is unwritten  by: Strummerson @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:24:24 PM CDT [ Parent ] Yeah... (2.00 / 2) That too.  

But my guess is this little troll is tricksy and has some resources, from past performance. by: Shaun Appleby @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 17:48:49 PM CDT [ Parent ] Frankly though (2.00 / 2) I've been through these games so many times: once a troll always a troll. I really can't be arsed.   Moose Juice; debate without hate  by: Brit @

You double agent line reminded me of this article I read in the New Yorker recently... (2.00 / 3) ...  This person seriously needs help. He is obsessed with that blog. Nice to see you around Strummerson! 

Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv 

by: spacemanspiff @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 10:58:06 AM CDT Must be.... (2.00 / 3) ...he/she/it is still stewing over the primary wars. Good catch.  by: Brit @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 11:15:13 AM CDT [ Parent ] ludwigvan? (2.00 / 3)

Good to see you too Spiff. Bracing for the worst.  Praying for a mitigated defeat. We'll do what we can this round and rally on the next one. btw, why do these trolls all claim insider status?  This joker seems to believe he was doing "WH level" political work 10 years ago or so.  ludwigvan claimed to be friendly with both Clintons. FWIW, Bill has been really out there this round.  I'm hoping this positions him to be a real asset in 2012.  Seems like neither of the Clintons despise the current administration like their "devoted supporters."   The future is unwritten  by: Strummerson

@ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 21:11:03 PM CDT [ Parent ] Good to see you too! (2.00 / 3) I've been reading your comments all day. I've lol'd hard! I hadn't gone over there in some time. Surprised Jerome frontpaged an obvious troll. That place hasn't been relevant in years. Elections are here and MyDD is getting page hits because it has a new troll. That about sums it up. Without poverty, corruption, injustice, bigotry, stupidity, and inequality good people like us would have absolutely nothing to do. - fogiv  by: spacemanspiff @

Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 00:48:51 AM CDT [ Parent ] My Guess... (2.00 / 2) Is that it's Holden Caulfield.  The Malcolm-X 'bamboozled' diarist, among others. by: Shaun Appleby @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 20:56:57 PM CDT [ Parent ]

all the same, methinks. (2.00 / 1)  by: fogiv @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:00:39 PM CDT [ Parent ] What a bag of douche (2.00 / 5) The entire fp lineup over there is.  It is absolutely hillis44 land.  Disgusting.  Glad the forum software does not let me post from my iPad.  by: lojasmo @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 18:09:07 PM

CDT bag of douche. (2.00 / 2) lol! . - fogiv  by: spacemanspiff @ Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 00:49:47 AM CDT [ Parent ]

Glad to know it's still a sewer (2.00 / 5) I haven't been there since the general election two years ago. It sounds like I haven't missed much. by: rfahey22 @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:03:13 PM CDT

Hey, stranger (2.00 / 6) Good to see you. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis  by: John Allen @ Mon Nov 01, 2010 at 22:18:25 PM CDT [ Parent ]

You too. It's been a crazy few months. (2.00 / 4) Work's been a little crazy.  That, and the last year to year and a half has been depressing from a political perspective.  But, I guess now we'll have Republicans to rail against, rather than other Democrats, which will be a nice change of pace.

 

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i mean really boys

its a over used cliche, but...

 

GET A LIFE!

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 12:47PM | 1 recs
RE: i mean really boys

This week over 6,600 visitors came to MyDD every day. By comparison, Motley Moose is too small to even post a site meter.

As a sometime diarist at MyDD, I noticed the names of two adversaries to my diaries, who seem to be deep into MyDD hate: Strummerson and Brit.

What's up with that?

by MainStreet 2010-11-06 11:06AM | 0 recs
RE: i mean really boys

these two are myDD haters who come here to damage and destroy this site. 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-06 11:37AM | 1 recs
RE: i mean really boys

As far as my own diaries were concerned, both of them, Strummerson and Brit, were deep into destroying the messenger. When that didn't work (and others may have experienced the same treatment), they apparently upgraded their ambitions to that of destroying the site.

Sad but futile.

by MainStreet 2010-11-06 12:08PM | 0 recs
RE: i mean really boys

theyve been here doing this for YEARS

 

the last time i came here a year ago - there were more people posting and commenting - and it was strummerson who absolutely stalked me and attacked me in the most browbeating fashion - just like he has since i came back last week.

some of the other names from the Moose diary have been doin the same thing for years too - this is not a new situation.

 

 

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-06 01:06PM | 1 recs
RE: i mean really boys

This week over 6,600 visitors came to MyDD every day. By comparison, Motley Moose is too small to even post a site meter.

As a sometime diarist at MyDD, I noticed the names of two adversaries to my diaries, who seem to be deep into MyDD hate: Strummerson and Brit.

What's up with that?

by MainStreet 2010-11-06 11:06AM | 0 recs
Thos Dimwit Dummy Bullys!

Their nothing more than pathetic weepy-eyed whining loosers!

 

These dimwit dummies should be ignored for all thier worth.  But NEVER let them use their bullying bruitishness to shut down the great exchange of REAL ideas here at the NEW MyDD!  

Shut them down!

Shut them up!

and Shut them out!

should be the mantra!  These idiot-troll-loosers are just here to censor and bully the vast majority who understand that the koolaide Klan brought disaster to the party and to the nation, and they cannot stand!

 

Your doing great work in showing what they really are and its sad, pathetic and hilarious to see these o-trolls trying to match you or the GREAT Jack LAdsman argument for argument on an intellectual level!  

But I'm willing to hold out an olive branch even to these lowest of the low.  If they successfully de-pr0gram and join the rational world I'd be willing to welcome them back to the fold.  But I'd suggest a bit of probation first - just to makke sure the 0-dor has really worn off.

 

THanks for this GREAT diary,a nd for all your GREAT work sticking up for the right way forward!  Never give in, never surrender, never loose again!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 02:25PM | 1 recs
RE: Thos Dimwit Dummy Bullys!

with anyone writing a diary about anything.

unlike them, i am not a censor.

its the pathetic brow beating and the simultaneous arrogant and childish insults that just go on and on and on and on.

strummerson has written probably 100 comments in my three diaries alone.

funny thing is ui went to their site to cutely put a laughing baby and a laughing hillary on their blog WITH NO INSULTS AT ALL

and of course, they banned me right away.

hypocrites.

i suggest you read thru the comments I put up above.

you will see that the mosse bully boys have issues.. woo boy!

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 04:25PM | 1 recs
RE: Thos Dimwit Dummy Bullys!

Youve got the patience of Jobe!  I don't klnow how you put up with attack after attack after viscious personal attack from these pencil-knecks!   It's as if their taking out all sad crushing disappointement on you personally!  Of course we've aslo seen that they attack in the lowest possible way anyone who dares to slip from the "Party" line about the boy-prince.  

I might be able to have some respect for them as misguieded and lost if they weren't so over-the-top angy and un-civil!  You can practically see the pitchforks theyd be carrying when they come after the truth-tellers.  Of course there arent anough of them left to form a real mob these days!  

You certainly have my admiration for your ability to raise the level of discored even among the yapping throng of hopey hooligans taht come here only to tear down the rebuilding of the REAL progressive spheare, and to attack, and attack, and attack!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 06:37PM | 0 recs
RE: Thos Dimwit Dummy Bullys!

im trying to get people at this site to fight back against the people who come here with the clear mission to silence dissent, insult jerome and anyone else that doesnt cherish their precious and drive this site into the ground.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:43PM | 0 recs
RE: Thos Dimwit Dummy Bullys!

rihgt you are!  We MUST be viligant and beat back every sneaky weasally move they make to silence out voices!  It's time to stop feeding these sad 0-trolls and call them out whenever they dare to step out of line.  Jerome is one of the greatest men of the internet and it's a crime when anyone comes here just to take cheap, lying, and INEFFECTIVE! shots at him!  MyDD is getting back to the good old glory days and back to when the "MY" part really meant something!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:04PM | 0 recs
RE: Thos Dimwit Dummy Bullys!

get friends to join and re seed this place

its time

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:14PM | 0 recs
i am sooo fine

with anyone writing a diary about anything.

unlike them, i am not a censor.

its the pathetic brow beating and the simultaneous arrogant and childish insults that just go on and on and on and on.

strummerson has written probably 100 comments in my three diaries alone.

funny thing is ui went to their site to cutely put a laughing baby and a laughing hillary on their blog WITH NO INSULTS AT ALL

and of course, they banned me right away.

hypocrites.

i suggest you read thru the comments I put up above.

you will see that the mosse bully boys have issues.. woo boy!

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 03:51PM | 1 recs
RE: i am sooo fine

Of course youre not a censor, youre the opposite!  Youre the one fighting for freedom of speach and for civil dischorde. The sad loosers from that fleabag grazng site just come here to try to silence your great vioce!  And Jerome's and anyone else who does't tow the krazy koolaide 0bonoid line!  I read through a bunch of the comments but I just coulndnt make it through all that HATE!  I don't know how you put up with this on and on and on.

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:07PM | 0 recs
RE: i am sooo fine

well, i would rather knock their heads together - but sadly thats not possible.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:15PM | 0 recs
Actually

Most of us lament that diaries and comments with the tone you exhibit have decimated MyDD.  We'd love for it to be a more vibrant part of the net roots.  But what you are doing doesn't help that.

As for your banning, you were banned for posting contentless bad faith taunting and trolling videos, not for your opinions.  But none of that will stop you from playing victim.

The Moose was founded by Clinton and Obama supporters who wanted a higher level of engagement with one another, civil discourse, not unending flame wars with infantile PUMAs, which is what MyDD has largely turned into.  And of which the present diary is evidence.

by Strummerson 2010-11-05 04:29PM | 0 recs
your a fake

uber concern troll

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 04:32PM | 1 recs
always with taunts while playing the innocent

"...not unending flame wars with infantile PUMAs"

 

Passive aggresive BS..

your M.O.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 05:45PM | 1 recs
"you were banned..."

Because i pissed you off with my video opinion which was far from being content free  As if!

why lie?

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 05:56PM | 1 recs
Then Why Not Post It Here?

So the casual reader, assuming there are any, can make up their own mind about it.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 06:01PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

what are you saying that a video of a baby laughing and a video of hillary laughing are so horrendous that they should be censored?

 

have you budding obama fascists gone hard core now that youve close to destroyed the democratic party?

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:27PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

"assuming there are any"

 

why are you even here?

 

you have shown that you are a true bloe royalist and just a fraud poseur as a leftist.

what a joke your type all are rah rah-ing for people who wouldnt piss on you if you were afire.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:35PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

We've seen more than enough of your elk to make up all our minds!  Stop comeing here just to spew more of your hate and bile!  Stop demanding that we be silenced!  Stop trying to force the krazy koolade on the huge, vast majority that are now smarter than the sad lottle 0-bots that linger in theyre rotting fesetering world of soon-to-be increadible regret!

In short only come back when youre ready to apologize you ungreatful loosers

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 06:55PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

go visit therir site

 

they actually have the logo of the white house in their banner

 

what a bunch of fanboys!

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:57PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

What a sick, sick, sad site it must be!  I woudn't give it the pageview adn I wound't subjectify myself to the type of delusioonal hate that site appears to have.  Its bad enough that some of their worst loosers feel the need to come her and sew their seeds of dischorde, that I dont' need to go and suly myself in their trough!

 

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:10PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

wll theres a lot of talk about how literate they are and how super duper educated...

 

how could you want to miss that?

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:16PM | 0 recs
RE: Then Why Not Post It Here?

the video i put at the top with the confessions of a cyber bully clearly state that the idea of such a person eveer apologizing for anything is just not even imaginable.

havent you read about a couple of cases where cyber bullies drove a couple of kids to suicide and then wrote taunting comments on the dead kids facebook pages?

these oldsters are exactly the same in make up as these vile kids.

and id bet these vile kids will grow up to be vile adults just like these jerks.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:04PM | 0 recs
Hey...

Leave my elk out of this.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
RE: Hey...

Then you and your elk should keep the hell out of this pleace until you can behave like a decen't intellegent grownup!  You and yoer elk from that motley place and the kkk0s and other sewers arent wanted here if youre just going to stink up the place with your hate and lies!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:17PM | 0 recs
RE: Hey...

i did a search of kos for mydd and read about how they were gonna go to myDD into the comments and cause havoc because comments dont get removed here and that was their plan to shut down dissent by creating flame war after flame war until people just gave up posting diaries here.

 

which i sure did in the past...

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:24PM | 0 recs
RE: Hey...

Just shows how stupid sad and dumb these loosers really are!  Jerome cleans out the trash in this place and if they try that kind of crap they'll come back to find out they've been disappleared compleatley!  I'm not giving in to their childish tauntes, I say ingore the trolls, shut them up and shut them down then shut them out!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:32PM | 0 recs
RE: Hey...

i can agree with you here on this.

but people who like myDD first have to understand what happened her and the NAMES of those that are the 5th columnists who come here simply to try to silence and damage the site itself

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:35PM | 0 recs
RE: Hey...

Yes indead, NAMES shoud be taken and the list displayed in a virtual town square!  These people should enever again have the chance to wreak their damage on the masess!

They're a filthy fifth column of 0bonoid facism and they must be exposed and stopped for all time!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:41PM | 0 recs
RE: Hey...

logo of the white house?

ugh!

 

why not the logo big pharma or BP?

(oh i forgot dailyKos has that!)

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:18PM | 0 recs
RE: Actually

I'm suyre you have a whole lot to lament Summerthingorother!  People like you didn't just wase your vote, but you actively pushed and cheated and bullied and conned and connived to have your idol elevated to royal status while the rest of the country went down the tubes bacause of your sad stubborn stupibidy!  

The VIBRANT of MyDD was chased away by your sad stormtropping 0-bonoids!  You only come here to cencor and silence the truth about "The One"!  The truth is that you cant' handel the truth!!  You come here to victimize those of us who are thoutful and considered in our words, and who are working hard day and night to fix the greatest catastrphie of the last 100 years that you and your elk created for us! And you have the unbelevable nerve to call yourself a victim!  Look at the pot people, look at the pot!

Sad peopel like you who have the unmitigetted gall to use Hillarys name in vain just shows what youre all aabout!  If you were really seriouse you coud stop the flame wars by choseing not to START THEM!

I don't need to point who the 'infantile" one is here, it's as obvious as can be!

Now isn't it time for one of your regular 0-worship sessions?  How many times a day do you kiddies do that?  3? 4? 5? 

 

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
RE: Actually

he plays that passive-aggressive shtick as if anyone with any brains cant see through it directly.

 

thats how they alway worked - attack, taunt and insult and then whine to one of the former admins that thought just like them - to ban anyone who - in frustration yelled back at them.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:54PM | 1 recs
RE: Actually

Sounds like a kid in knidergarten.  

 

Or maybe that's a little to advanced for this one!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:11PM | 0 recs
RE: Actually

people are who they were at 12/

 

always were - always will be.

 

look at the vid above of the teen girl - see how decent a person she is and how she sees people who do such things do them for other reasons then they acclaim they do.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:19PM | 0 recs
RE: Actually

Thats why youre such a clear leader here at the revival fo the REAL DD!  You know who and what youre tallking about and taking on, nad your fearless as they come in the face of the bruising, bedevilling, blinding bllushit tactics they use on their many many enembies!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:28PM | 0 recs
Just For the Record

You managed to quote many of us way out of context, my 'army of discontent' comment was about the layoff of public sector employment in Britain, for pity's sake.  You were banned, assuming it was you from the admission in your diary, for posting the same content-free YouTube clip numerous times in a single diary which for those of us on limited bandwidth is a virtual denial of service attack.  And the notion that the Moose is a staging area for a campaign of repression against MyDD overstates the significance of both sites, I'm guessing, by several orders of magnitude.  As for your shout-out, a flame war initiated by any other site would probably increase our page views but thanks for trying anyhow.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 04:59PM | 0 recs
RE: Just For the Record

"limited bandwidth is a virtual denial of service attack..."

oh Christ - what deceitful bullshit !

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 05:43PM | 0 recs
When...

You post a clip in a diary a dozen or so times it does affect browsing, especially for those of us without ADSL2 or cable.  And you can hardly defend that kind of activity as anything but a nuisance in any case.  Once would have been 'cute,' but the same clip over and over again?  C'mon.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 05:54PM | 0 recs
RE: When...

4 vids

2 at top

2 at butom

and 14 imes that woulnhave harmed the site on bit.

 

you just didnt like my point which the vds wordlsly expresses.

youre censors.

hypocrits.

royalists.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:02PM | 1 recs
I'm Guessing...

You're not counting the number of those clip posts which were hide-rated prior to your banning.  If that was your point, incidentally, you could have just made it once and you probably wouldn't have been banned.  Under the circumstances I thought it was appropriate, frankly.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 06:08PM | 0 recs
sorry i dont speak internet obsessed geek

hide-rated?

what the f?

stop LYING

the vids didnt hurt the bandwith of the site

you didnt like their message

i wasnt gonna go in there and play insult - put down games that you and yours so love to play -

i just wanted to share my OPINION

and you banned me for it like the crypto fascist royalist thought police dissent killing enforcers  that you are.

own it. 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:22PM | 1 recs
My Bandwidth...

Not the site's.  It's called 'spamming.'  Try that stunt on any well moderated forum and I'm guessing you're in for a banning.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 06:32PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

your a fake and afraud.

i saw that it was you calling for my banning.

you people did the same thing here and ran out anyone that disagreed with your 'precious".

your a fake and yes, a liar and you come here again just ao abuse a site you now hate.  get a life.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 06:37PM | 0 recs
Who Said...

I hated MyDD?  Actually been thinking of posting some diaries here again.  Seems to me both parties are missing the big picture these days.  We have two parties divided among their respective constituencies over the economy and their establishments up to their eyeballs in corporate influence.  Democrats less than Republicans, at a guess, but they're both missing the point.

The next genuine economic populist whom emerges in either party is going to be a force to be reckoned with if they take on Wall Street and the massive misappropriation of public money.  "It's the economy, stupid," and it ain't getting any better.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 07:02PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

look dont try to bs me.

you know that im no dope.

and i remember exactly the moment when you joined the jackals who intentionally worked to ban and silence people at this site who were opposed to obama in 08,

and there is a greater divide in the dem party that the gop - its just the media wont discuss it and the royalists are doing everything to silence dissent.

well get this - there is a democratic presidential primary season coming up and actual democrats like me have EVERY RIGHT to call for a challenge to Obama.

 

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:09PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

You use any lie you can to try to make it look like you know whatyour talking about.  But we know you hyeanas roamed in packs to silence those of us who were brave enough to speak out in the face of the greatest oppresion in the history of the interenets of politics in this country!

Sad lame loosers like you don't have the right to talk about real populism, weve all seen what you people like!  Now its time to shudt thte Fkc up and stop your vile censorship so that the adults can fix your fanboy mess!

 

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:22PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

thats exactly what happened.

 

it didnt take many of them - probably about a dozen and boy they  were so pleased with themselves they believe they now own this place and thats why they come here to visit and attack whenever anybody arises with a different POV than them.

 

again i blame the admins who allowed this and banned scores of those like me and left these jokers who always have to insult, taunt and denigrate jerome (y'know the guy who gave ALL of the ad revenue to these judas moderators who all seem to hagve left AFTER they helped to run down this site to where it is now.

now we have to get rid of these jackals and build this site back up.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:30PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

well I'll do what I can to help but youre already way in the lead!

 

youre right about the judas moderators who all took and took and took from Jerome, taking advantage of his incredibly genrous nature!  Those slimesuckers deserve the fate they have now to live in total obscurity and anguish in their own precious 0bambis America!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:37PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

Changeagain/MoreAndMore

 

You forgot to start sentences with Caps to make these two sockpuppets look like different people.

It's obvious to anyone with a cursory eye for style that you're talking to yourself.

by brit 2010-11-05 07:41PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

oh yeah - right - tried and true netrooter insults.

 

caps and sock puppets...

 

aint me dude 

 

stay nerdy my friend.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:44PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

Listen Limy! 

 

See CaPitOls anD eVerYthiNg!  I bet A Dulldim BuLb like YouCna sTill Make SomeTHinG oUt Of ThiS!

Get it through that thik damaged skull of yours that there are MORE OF US who have the right ideas about your Looser boy-prince!  We don't need to create "cock-puppets" because day after day there are more and more of us coming back here, each of us with our own ideas and thoughts and understanding of how lame and lousy your precious really is!  Duck and cower now britboy because youre about to be swept out in a TIDAL wave of rational good ieas and action!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:48PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

Check out the 'cant' typo. Used by you both. 

Appropriate word.

Plenty more where that came from but frankly. I can't be arsed. 

by brit 2010-11-05 08:15PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

jesus christ it aint me!

why are you people so f-ing delusional!?

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:24PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

And how much does your peck-peck-pecking about look like strormtroppersoms stupid keyboard stompings?  Youre right -- YES YES YES I said it, savor teh moment limy bastard savor it!!!  you'r rihgt that I don't waste my time poofing my posts for the like of you and your elk!  My first draft, wars andall is still more honest nad more truthful than any text you run through your auto-Bama software!

I don't know if you can't be "arsed" but I sure know you are an arse!  And an ass too!!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 08:25PM | 0 recs
RE: Who Said...

And how much does your peck-peck-pecking about look like strormtroppersoms stupid keyboard stompings?  Youre right -- YES YES YES I said it, savor teh moment limy bastard savor it!!!  you'r rihgt that I don't waste my time poofing my posts for the like of you and your elk!  My first draft, wars andall is still more honest nad more truthful than any text you run through your auto-Bama software!

I don't know if you can't be "arsed" but I sure know you are an arse!  And an ass too!!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 08:25PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

He's just a fraidy fraud!

 

Ooh, I'm Im still hitting 'em out above theyre grade level!

 

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

these people live to "ban" those they cant argue down or brow beat.

its their way and it sure did work here under jonathon singer and others

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:21PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

YEah, Singer the Stinker!  so glad he's been gotten rid of!  What a lame apologizer for 0babies he was!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:24PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

he has a blog now too - i went to it - diary after diary after diary -

 

none with even 1 comment.

 

not one

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:31PM | 1 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

No wonder their so jealous for attention!

 

Sad, sad, just plain sad.  And pathetic too!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:38PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

hey didyou know that you are me

and i am you?

super brainy brit says so - so its gotta be true because we're just dolts compared to his wizened ways...

and just to think, to be nice, i complimented him on a sentence he wrote - now look at my payment :)

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:46PM | 0 recs
RE: My Bandwidth...

As long as I'm not makened for one of them, that would make me SICK!

 

Any complient paid to one of those bullyboys would be lost on their faulty faculties anyway.

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:54PM | 0 recs
RE: I'm Guessing...

Your censor brigade Loooooove to hide rate don't you?  Youre all alice you thug-censor creatins!  Get out of this place andget out of the way, you're bullying censoring tactics are over!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
RE: I'm Guessing...

its all one big game of whack the puma to them!

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:00PM | 1 recs
RE: Just For the Record

And you expect anyone to believe you over someone sane?

 

So so so sad!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 06:56PM | 0 recs
Change:

You’re really not supposed to feed the animals, dude. This faction isn’t even a collection of bullies. Bullies are dominant. We’re dealing with a gaggle of poseurs and losers. The one time I paid them any attention was after the “Chocolate Carter” contretemps. I can’t remember if it was the Moose thing or Rumproast—who cares?—but their reaction was to play the Race card. And since you’re not supposed to use it on a black person, they shifted and actually starting questioning whether or not I was black. I almost died laughing. And it’s a good thing I missed the seal of the White House. The EMTs would have had to carry me out on a stretcher with one of those grotesque Joker smiles on my face.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-05 07:35PM | 0 recs
Those are real allegations

Show a link that any member of the Moose did what you allege. Or STFU. 

Brit AKA Peter Jukes

by brit 2010-11-05 07:43PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

heres your link

 

www.google.com

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:08PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

I know what Google is thanks. 

by brit 2010-11-05 08:18PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

one of the innertube ways to insult and waste others time is to ask for a link - well, there it is

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:25PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 08:29PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

I know you’re not expecting me to actually open a new tab and Google that. You have any idea how much time I have already wasted with you? What are you, nuts? And if in fact it was the Rumproast crowd that was guilty of that particular instance of racial condescension, then you’re absolved. Although I would hasten to add that the Moose thing—a clique of poseurs sitting around, patting themselves on the back underneath the friggin’ seal of the White House—is equally fucking laughable. I love you all the same.

Jack Landsman, aka, Captain Fantastic

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-05 08:23PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

Your a good good man to love those loosers.  

I think the use of the Seal is more sickening than funny.

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 08:28PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

y'know in the ninties i was 100% clintonite and still i spent 96 to 200 full time fighting the WH on every trade bill there was and working a FT anti nafta pr campaign.

i worked my ass off to elect Clinton TWICE and actually know and love the Clintons as people - but when i disagreed with them - i FOUGHT the White House and i sure never had the white house seal on ANYTHING!

(well, i had a lighter from Camp David that i kept on my boat but that was because it was a way cool zippo)

they are poseur fanboys (and girl) - no different than any other kind of internet fan cult of celebrity worshipers.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:38PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

Well the difrence is that youre an intellegent, honest patriot and theyre just fratboys.  

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 08:47PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

You claim a member of Motley Moose said you played the race card.

You said they doubted you when you said you were black.

Then you have no evidence for it...

I'll take that as a public retraction, and leave you to intelligence, witty conversation with changeagain/moremore/mumbaiburns/ludwigvan - a notorious attention seeking troll for many a sad year, whose only merit, Jack, is that he makes you look literate. 

by brit 2010-11-05 08:32PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

yup, keep it up

 

i want everyone to see what you people are really all about.

 

my thanks.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:43PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

and who says i cant appreciate someone who isnt a hillaryite?!

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:33PM | 0 recs
RE: Those are real allegations

jesus h fucking christ!

hey bubba - i just read alls abouts youze  and your "flaming for obama"

and yes, i d id like that fucking sentence - and it did pop - and it is a real dick move for someone who is a known and obviously good writer to call non pros - illiterate.

but get this - i went to the same college as your leader and chosen hobby and I graduated with honors when ol' Barr did not and if im dumb - hes dumber..

and F - your piece confirms that i was absolutely right about all of this - why cant you simply admit it?  you came here in march of 08 -simply to silence the one place in the netroot land that hadnt been entirely absorbed by the obama campaign message machine and you wanted to silence that last voice and you bought into every obot conspiracy theory there was about this place.

yes, you write better than me and everyone else at these sites and yet you take the low road calling out your "opponents" on the net for not having your skill set.  you shouldnt do that - kinda unfair.

kinda like how i - who fucking have worked in dc politics - and labor and pol media for 25 years from local offices to running senate campaigns and working on the staff of about 5 presidential races even before i got aboard with bill clinton in 92 - try not to call you dabbling amateurs at politics - ignorant know nothing wannabes.

if i was as arrogant as you have been here - maybe Id tell you that you dont have a friggin clue whatsoever about how this american political scene - actually worked.

unlike you, i dont have the luxury of being able to be public about my background - i gotta hide and cant give you my CV or say certain things that would link me back to - because if i was discovered writing smack about the failures of my own party and the utter idiocy of selecting then supporting my ex classmate (so they say - no one seems to have ever met him) to be president when his big claim for fame before that was as a one class a semester law instructor and a 30 day a year state assemblyman - oh fuck would there be hell to pay. (no worries - i never say enough to get me found without a supercomputer linking my details)  

these obama f-ers are Stalinists - they do not take critique from inside the dc dem world well at all.  and they hate clintonites every bit as much today as they did in 5/2008  

personally, i dont give a shit - ive moved to the beach and ive got enough $ to be free - but man would it fuck people that im very, very close to (guess)...well, not really fuck them, but it would allow the conspiracy theorists amongst you obama freaks-royalists to believe something is going on when its not...and that would get them mad at me, which is something i personally want to avoid very, very much.

everybody is pretending that all is well and chummy and thats the official tale.

But you see, I know all about how this craziness came about.  How the power circles in DC - the daschle K street group and then the kennedy orb and Ms nancy pelosi and the clyburn group along with the 500 of the DC political media (Russert, matthews, NYTT's DC Bureau, WP, etc etc etc) all worked together to place this half decent script reader in the White House.

the idea that obama represented a less corporate alternative to hillary was the biggest myth of the campaign.  the trurth was the complete opposite.  oba was given K street by daschle and wall street by dodd, daxhle, kennedy, kerry etc.. From big banks to big pharma to BP - they bought him and hes stayed bought.

Peter baby - I know every one of these people Im talking about.  This isnt braggadocio - just simple fact of working in this world since I was 14 and being considered pretty good at it.  I worked for biden when I was 16 and kennedy at 18 and Clinton at 29 and got close to all of them and their personal circles of friends and supporters.  

I later worked inside the DC pol media and again, got to know these ambitious fools (97%) from inside their world and watched their cattiness and clubbish bullying take out Al Gore - another fellow I know and like tremendously.  (funny, smart as hell, artistic and even creative and subversive in private - we both share one guy as the closest of friends)

now as to your conspiracy theories about the net wars -

first - in late 2006 - i had a conversation with a very close young friend who was offered a tippy top job working for obama's about to open campaign to put together his computer/net stuff (im being vague on purpose here).  he asked what i thought because i had brought him in close to hillaryland and he liked her and wouldnt take the gig if i thought he shouldnt.  even though hes fun, friendly and a fucking genius (obama wouldnt have won without him - no way) at these things i knew that the clinton campaign would never let him run wild with his creative new ideas we had been talking about for 4 years and so i told him take the gig and wed both try to talk up the other camp - in our own - and hope for and work underneath for a Hillary/Obama.

thing was i found out from him that obama, axelrod, plouffe totally DESPISED AND HATED the netroot world. daily kos etc.  I mean fucking LOATHED.  they believed that these people were all for edwards and though i barely even have met axelrod - ive known plouffe for two decades and he is possibly the meanest mother fucker in democratic politics.  a fucking bruiser that wants to kill his opponents - not beat them.  kill is not quite right... kill them, then cut them into quarters and then roast the entrails and feed them to the dogs.

well, they put together a strong plan involving sending out their early campaign kids (which they rounded up right away from the usual sources - paid venders (cant remember the name - but its the firm obama hired and the kid did the orwell hillary 84 net ad) and who already were big online blah blah blahers...it grew and grew  - but they had a plan.

hillary had park avenue.  mandy friggin greenwald is older than me and she knows noting about this world online and this was in her portfolio.  she did what her kind do best - she hired the most famous person in this world that did campaigns - Peter dhaou and let him handle allll of the innernets.  Well, let me just remind you - that didnt go so well and since the clinton hating MSM (you really dont understand this world at all - hell - the ones in it dont even get it) didnt care about anyting that came from the networld - this allowed the hate filled net environment to develop -which was encouraged by plouffe and his early kid hires who diredcted an ever expanding group of obama fanboys scribbling and scribbling.

the clinton campaign had no structure for any internet action and no plan. Dhao would every once in a whil write some pretty good piece and then go fucking post it at daily kos and arianna's site (another chum surprised?) and that would be that...

there was NO fucking clinton plan to take over myDD - that was ridiculous and paranoic and wrong.

i knew that the ben smiths of the msm world would look at this site - and so i started coming here and blogging under various names - because those like you were trying to censor (and ban anyone who dared) those who were strongly opposed to obama.

a series of my pieces got a little play in the real media (hoodwinked, bamboozled) and many were picked up by hillarys campaign and spread out from hillary.com - but i never once told ANYBODY in hillaryland what i was doing because this would have caused a series of problems - because i was hitting Obama hard on the things the journolist press just wouldnt pick up and actively fought when they had no choice and had to.  (Rezko, rev. wright etc) which i wrote because i knew that they would be seen by again - the ben smiths of the media world and i wanted them to know that there were those asking why wont you cover this?

but if you think that jerome (never met, spoke or emailed with him) had any involvement with the clinton campaign or world or me or anybody from her side - well - you again - just dont get how DC works or how the campaign played out on the net at all.  i couldnt read the Spectator article because its behind a wall - but thats my guess. 

-------

heres an offer.

id be happy to hear your views on anything.  from your wiki page - it seems that we like the same kind of stuff and you write things id be drawn to.

how about you let me write MY opinion on things without attacking me personally with taunts and insults

and you write your opinions. ill read em and we will go from there.

and oh yeah - there sure as hell will be a challenge to Obama and the likelihood that it will be bayh increased by about 1000% when pelosi (dont really know her - but i know very well her bratty snob of a daughter) announced that she just can not go gentle into that dark night.

so get ready for round two.

----

ok im done - you can stay snide and hit me with insults that snap but dont sting and make your nerd buds so happy or we can all have a conversation.

(sorry irf this is soo illiterate - but i dont have the time to review - rarely ever do)

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-06 02:58PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

Time to cook this moose along with the roast!  Cram them both into the oven and set the dial HIGH!

 

After the stunt after stunt after disgusting stunt they pulled in the primary and the general its easy to see these scumbalks using the race card, they grasp at anything that'll give them an edge no matter how skummy it is. 

 

You're a great man to be able to handle them and keep such a great sense of humor jack!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:51PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

Time to cook this moose along with the roast!  Cram them both into the oven and set the dial HIGH!

 

After the stunt after stunt after disgusting stunt they pulled in the primary and the general its easy to see these scumbalks using the race card, they grasp at anything that'll give them an edge no matter how skummy it is. 

 

You're a great man to be able to handle them and keep such a great sense of humor jack!

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 07:52PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

i know, i know but that hasnt worked out very well for this site has it?

i had planned to tone it down after these buzzards went nuts about my diary where i wrote  - my OPINION - of what had happened to drive away every hillary/moderate/ moderate lib from this site over the last two years...

but then i saw a couple of comments at your diary from some jerk - who was very concened with what had happened to the "tone' her and then went on to write that you must be "self loathing".

that kind of shit pisses me off to no end!

i mean how DARE they?!  they dont f-ing know you and even if they did - its not ACCEPTABLE to say such things like that.

of course theyve said much worse many times but that doesnt make it acceptable.

if this place is going to grow back to anything like what it still could be - these people have to stop with their taunting and if they wont - ban them from posting here down to their IP addresses.

they are a 5th column working inside myDD to keep it from coming back after almost destroying it completely

its only about a dozen or fewer jokers and it always has been - but previous moderators allowed them to run wild and attack and defame jerome (even though he was giving these judas punks 1005 of the ad revenue) because they were ambitious lil f-ers who didnt want to be on the wrong side of the obot army juggernaut.

 

the next two years are not going to be like what the punditas are saying - there will be a challenger - you can bet on this with all you have - and there must be a place where such a challenge will be allowed to be discussed and encouraged...

these guys are gonna want to stop that - because theyre budding facistas...but if we identify the problem and the names of those causing the trouble...others will come back if they know that they wont be abused for not kneeling to their craven image of their chosen one who has led us to the worst congressional and state house loses in over 70 years...

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 07:59PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

dont you find it truly amazing when the palest of spoiled upper middle class white boys think that it makes them "down" with the "people" when they call anyone or everyone that disagrees with obama on ANYTHING a racist?

 

lord - tell you this - that tactic cost us millions of independent votes this cycle and is exactly why a moderate challenger like from evan bayh could find room in 2012 - because people in this country who are NOT racists DEEPLY resent being called one and any attack on a challenge to Obama from the middle will be nullified by these white boys crying wolf for  four years now..

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:07PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

Denise Velez=spoiled upper middle class white boy. Hm

by brit 2010-11-05 08:08PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

oops!

well then what the hell are you doing hanging around those fools then?

lord!

me thinks you really dont understand the stratas of US societies...cause these blogs are 94% white and 91% male and the bully boys are 99.98763% middle class white boys

well, in that case, in that your a woman and i like women and forgive them for most things,  i reaffirm my compliment on your well written sentence

but its too bad you thought if humorous and something to taunt when i mentioned my drinking pal with the C.

use anything to win a fight huh?

doesnt sound like many women i know...well there is Theda Skocpol...

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:19PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

i also withdraw my compliment about your one line...

anywho, i was just trying to be nice and it is the only line of yours that has impressed out of the hundreds that ive read.

i suggest you take some night school creative writing classes to cure you of your scribbling problems that comprise 98% of the rest of your writing which expresses barely functioning literacy and word bungling in the major key.

(tell me was that ok - im trying to emulate your arrogant insult style)

by changeagain2012 2010-11-06 01:15PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

oh jeeze - i just realized that you were playing the ...

 

"some of my best friends are latino chicks" card.

 

wow, simply wow...

by changeagain2012 2010-11-06 01:08PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

dont you find it truly amazing when the palest of spoiled upper middle class white boys think that it makes them "down" with the "people" when they call anyone or everyone that disagrees with obama on ANYTHING a racist?

Preach! This is precisely the same point I made to Jerome. It's so absurd it's funny.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-05 08:41PM | 0 recs
RE: Change:

it amazed me on the first day that this tactic was introduced in 2008

(thank you David Plouffee) and I truly believe that even though it worked in the primaries in 08 - it killesd the dems this year and will guaranttee no second term for Obama in 08.

F- I got into politics as a kid because of racial inequality.  Its a long story but I was raised to identify with the folks whose homes were aflame one night when i was 6 years old and MLK was murdered.

Ive spent many months working in the most urban (not urbane) of our biggest cities putting together GOTV plans and working with ministers and church ladies and then in 08 -

 

boom - these people whove never left the suburbs except to go downtown to a concert - start calling me a racist because im fighting for people that i know would get the country back on track.

 

if you havent read this - www.tnr.com/article/politics/race-man -  do.  Its the most important thing written about how we got where we are today and believe me,  it was even worse than what he wrote...

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:59PM | 0 recs
Gotta Say...

Blaming the Motley Moose for the demise of MyDD, a trend we all seem to be acknowledging, seems a bit like blaming one of the lifeboats for the sinking of the Titanic.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-05 08:16PM | 0 recs
RE: Gotta Say...

And to follow the analogy... this diary is a great example of an iceberg.

Except there's even less beneath the surface.

by brit 2010-11-05 08:18PM | 0 recs
RE: Gotta Say...

you bring to this diary exactly what i expected and why i wrote it.

nothing but snide.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:27PM | 0 recs
RE: Gotta Say...

your a sad comparison to what you once pretended to be...

Royalist.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:26PM | 0 recs
More and Change:

I understand you 100%, mang. I love reading and contributing to blogs. I wish I had more time to devote to because I’d be posting every single day. But it’s hard for me to care that much about blogosphere politics with the power struggles, feuds and whatnot. You should definitely know that there’s a reason why they can’t keep Jerome Armstrong’s name out of their mouths: they desperately want him to care. Bullies are dominant and inescapable. These guys are nothing more than a clown bus full of poseurs who no one actually like or pay that much attention to anyway. Snark ‘em if you’ve got a minute or two to spare when they wander into your diaries. But for the most part, ignore them.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-05 08:36PM | 0 recs
RE: More and Change:

But these thugs don't just wander in, they tromple in and spread tehir lies and hate around in a desprate attempt to shut down the decent voice of honest dessent!  These thugs aren't just cyberbullies but also,and worse, cybercensors!  Its not enough to shut them down in individual diearies where they worst abuse, but also shut out and away from the chance theyle bring down DD again!  You weren't hanging under that handel back then, but remember what they did to this place back in the daY?  These sad little thinglets only live now to crush the rest of us in hopes that they can clear the world of decent thinkers for theyr precious to shine again!

Or for the rest of us, to shine even once! 

by MoreAndMore 2010-11-05 08:44PM | 0 recs
Im outta here for the night

continue on purple moosers...

 

keep showing in each and every one of your comments what you really are about and why i wrote this diary.

enjoy.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 08:39PM | 0 recs
I didn't read all of this,

or even a tenth of it to be honest. I'm too busy with my Moosey cyber-bullying elsewhere. (BOOGA-BOOGA!) But from what I've read, the diarist has too much free time.

I'm not reading the rest of this dribble. I don't know how my fellow Moose will respond to this thread, but it is my hope that they do not waste much of their superior intellect or precious time on this nonsense. Diaries like this are best laughed at, and then left in the dust.

See you guys back where clearer heads prevail.

by sricki 2010-11-06 11:56AM | 0 recs
"do not waste much of their superior intellect".....oh my

way to be - drive by insulting!

 

i love to have my diaries proved as fact!

 

"See you guys back where clearer heads prevail

 

sounds like a threat from those with "superior intellect" and less "precious time" to me...

alert the national guard

by changeagain2012 2010-11-06 01:21PM | 0 recs
Predicatable as ever....

This (name)changeagain(#)2012 joker is the same nutbar that was banned under multiple names (most recently a few months back).

The same delusional sap that claimed to be chums with Hillary's brother and to have all sorts of 'insider' knowledge as to the goings on in DC.

The same fruitcake who cyber-stalked Lemos incessantly with foaming at the mouth threats.

The same pathetic basement dweller that writes insane disjointed comments (repeatedly)...chock full of paranoid delusions that 'we' are out to get him (or anyone else).

The same dickdrizzle that slings insult left and right...then cries like a titty baby when he gets invective tossed his way.

The same poster we have watched again and again and again get banned...only to return with another dumbfuck handle to spread his manure afresh.

The same douchenozzle we have all laughed at for what feels like YEARS now...laughed at what a loser he must be to want so badly to see his words in print that he returns again and again after each banning (many of those bannings done by JEROME HIMSELF)...laughed at near in awe at the amount of time he spends (wastes) spewing his paranoid delusions of grandeur.

The same pathetic lonely man who, if not for the internet, would be pacing back and forth jabbing his finger as he talked to himself.

The same loser that jerks off when someone....ANYONE...replies to him.
(btw, you're welcome, hope you came hard)

Thank you my dear simpleminded friend for providing a few minutes of mirth on a chilly evening. Be sure to wipe the spittle from your screen (and your chin) before you set to pecking out your next lunatic MyDD manifesto....we all await with bated breath.


I guess every site could use a pet troll...maybe Jerome will let you stick around for longer this time since you currently have no competitors.
by Kysen 2010-11-06 10:20PM | 1 recs

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