Did Obama Royalist Enforcer Thugs Run Everybody Off From MyDD?

Once upon a time, back during the beginning of the Presidential primary season of 2007 and 2008, the online progressive political net world settled into a comfortable situation where the two main opposing camps ended up in one or the other of the two major online community blogs. 

The more radicalized or Naderish (in my opinion) who were intensely against Hillary Clinton and later became advocates of Obama were ensconced at the Daily Kos and the more traditional progressive Democrats who either supported Hillary or at minimum didn't hate the Clintons,were here at myDD.

Of course, at first there were supporters of both candidates at either site too.

At one point a large group of Hillary supporters at Daily Kos who no longer could take the hate filled abuse hurled at them left that site en masse and came here instead to post their diaries.

The problem was that a roving band of thuggish thought police enforcers hillary hating bullies followed them here and made it clear that free speech was not free and that a price would be paid by anyone who dared to oppose the rise of the chosen One.

I use to come to this site all the time before the Spring of 2008 when it was taken over by this swarm from the Daily Kos.  It was clear they came here only to attack and insult Hillary Clinton supporters in the ugliest of ways.

Also, because they saw Jerome Armstrong as being opposed to their "precious", he was savaged in ways that still make me cringe when I think of them.

As the national voting showed, the simple reality was that the vast majority of actual Democrats supported bringing the better tested and much more accomplished Clintons back to the White House to fix the myriad of disasters that the Bush Presidency would leave behind  

But to Obama's online roving thug army that choice made them livid and they would begin their frothing attacks which were basically the same that they still use against anyone who dares to criticize their chosen one. Personal attacks, quickly hurling stunning and shocking words like "racist" as if it were true or even acceptable or believable to say such things without absolute proof.  

This simply intimidated many of those who came to this site and who dared to write diaries or comments supporting their candidate of choice.   So some just left.  Others were so hounded that they left after they were swarmed so often by the vile filled Obama enforcers that they left because they found the experience just too distasteful.  

Others left because some of this site's moderators - who I notice are gone from here now too - actually banned the strongest Clinton supporting diarists from this site outright.  Thats when I left - I found that the outright censorship by these moderators - at a site that was supposed to be a open forum for Progressives - so outrageous and disgraceful to simply be unbearable.

The saddest thing was that I had come to appreciate the thoughts and opinions of this site's founder, Jerome Armstrong, and to read the ugly words hurled at him every time he wrote anything that didnt fit the Obama roving army's thought police guidelines was very depressing.  

To watch the site's moderators - who were quick to ban those Hillary supporters who crossed a movable line protecting Obama - do nothing when Armstrong was defamed and being savaged and allow this wilding of Jerome to go on time after time defined disloyalty in its most extreme online form.

Ive stopped back a few times since and written a diary or two and been attacked by the remnants of this once overwhelming force of self enforced censors and screamers for my apostacy and again the experience was so distasteful - that I left myDD again.

The site where many fled to during the Hillary 'killing time' because it allowed all opinions -was now completely dominated by a very vocal and small minority (less then 10 I'd guess) who would decide - on their own - what would be allowed to be discussed here and work to insult, hide, remove or just plain intimidate any post or poster who dared to disagree with their personal opinion.

 Its that simple and its scary.  Self appointed net censors.  

Who'd of thought it would ever come to this?

Now that these net thugs bullied everybody away, it seems most of them have left too.  No surprise there - the enforcer thug lives to squash dissent, not opine on public policy.

I've read Jerome's recent diaries and in the few comments written to them - still fully half are nothing but insults and attacks on Jerome, his politics, his intelligence.  Others mock him for the collapse of the readership of this site - blaming it upon his criticism of Obama's politics or policy.  

The truth is that there are dozens of Democrat/progressive sites that reject the Obama administration and its policies all the time and they are thriving.

This real truth is that site's readership fled because of the endless attacks of Obama's thugs and enforcers - not because of this site's attacks on Obama.

After the collapse of support for Obama and as the incompetence of his political team loses Democrats our hard earned House of Representatives and leaves us with probably only 15 or 16 out of 50 Governorships - it would be good if there was a forum where an open and free dialogue can take place to discuss how Democrats can reorganize to win back what the Obamacrats have lost us.

Can this site be that place?  

A recent poll says 33% of Democrats who voted for Obama in 2008 now say they support him no longer and will not vote for him again.  

Seems to me that there are many Democrats who would like to discuss whether the road we are on now may lead to even more loses and maybe even that maybe Obama shouldn't run again..

Will such a conversation even be allowed?  Or will those obama enforcers who still hate this site and publicly loathe its founder be allowed to control it even after they and this site's own dishonest and disloyal moderators completely deforested myDD and left it an absolute ghost town on the ol' internet prairie.


It's a good question...

Tags: what ever happened to baby mydd, oboma thugs, thought police, junior hit MEN, fascism lite, Censorship (all tags)

Comments

70 Comments

so tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

if you hate jerome armstrong so much -

why do you come to his site ever?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-27 03:25PM | 2 recs
You're Joking?

Right?  I was blogging daily here throughout the whole period you are discussing.  MyDD was a very active, widely viewed and relevant forum for discussing the many significant issues which came up in that primary campaign.  Why do you feel it is necessary to do a historical revisionism of what happened?  There were quite a few Hillary and Obama supporters, what else would you expect?  Edwards supporters were probably in the majority at first.  Obama supporters definitely weren't from February 2007 through to Iowa and New Hampshire.  After that it became quite acrimonious but I would suggest that this was always a place where Obama supporters were essentially playing defense.  That's what made it challenging and rewarding to blog here.  After it was apparent that Hillary was losing the primary there were some quite adamant and incendiary diaries here which were in the same vein as yours.  The premise of your diary is false but that seems intentional.

It's hard to understand what the tragectory of MyDD has been since, and this diary comes as no particular surprise, but it is hardly accurate.  Most Obama supporters left a while ago, some, like myself, quite reluctantly.  After blogging in an online community for such a long time it isn't easy to just chuck it in and move on.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-01 07:17AM | 1 recs
RE: You're Joking?

this post wasnt "revisionism" - it was my "opinion".

you may feel this diary is "false" but i dont agree.

there was a short period when this site was a great outlet for hillaryites to write and counter the hate filled arguments against her that was all that was allowed at Kos and the other sites - and when the hillary folks quit kos publically - the obama enforcers followed them here with a planned and succesful effort to shout them down here too and one or more (i dont remember) of the sites moderators who was a obama wannabe insider helped them and banned most if not all of the strongest hillary defenders and left the bully boys alone to harrangue and attack.

you were not one of them but i remember very well the day that you decided to tolerate and laugh along with their abusive ways.  it was a sad and disheartening moment for me personally.

what i wrote in this diary is what happened here. it truly is revisionary to pretend - then write - that it didnt.

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-01 12:26PM | 0 recs
RE: You're Joking?
Well, I would probably remember you then. Still having trouble reconciling these:
this post wasnt "revisionism" - it was my "opinion".
what i wrote in this diary is what happened here.
Opinion versus statement of fact? That's a slippery slope. Any help with this would be appreciated.
by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-01 03:19PM | 0 recs
tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

do you feel ANY responsibility at all for all the good dems whose careers will be destroyed on tuesday because of Obama?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-27 04:07PM | 2 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

 

Hi I'm an Obama Royalisy Enforer thug, Can I just stay that we are mainly British MI6 double agents (or is my Brit handle a triple bluff? Who knows?). During the Primaries we got on our jack boots and stormed all over this place, mainly because we're trying to undo the American Declaration of Independence. Forget your President being a Nazi Muslim Communist. That's the least of your worries. Obama is a <b> secret Brit</b>, born in a former British colonies, and we're going to take our country back, and funnel out all the wealth you've created with your high valued housing stock and banking industry... Oh. OK.That didn't work. So we deliberately spoilt oil everywhere. Oh yeah. And dominated your TV shows with secret Fifth Columnist Brits speaking in convincing American accents.  The annoying thing is that we had nearly achieved this spectacular reconquista of our old colonies, when you come along and blow the gaff. Thanks to cogent, brave and articulate Lexington militia like you, we've been foiled in our devious plan, and MYDD has been rescued.. As to your points, you're completely correct. 1. All through the primaries this site was filled with Obamabot diaries on the rec list.  2. Fearless freedom fighters like Texas Darlin, Universal and Alegre were consistently denigrated, silenced, censored, imprisoned and tortured by Koolaid drinkers who did like 'argue back', and said Obama could win the election, that he wasn't a Muslim, or lying about his academic career.  Our devious Stalinist Gestapo then pulled the ultimate trick of 'changing reality' and making Obama win the election just to make all those people look stupid. That's really evil 3. All through this time, Jerome was a model of reasonableness and reconciliation, standing above the fray, almost a God Like figure of sagacity and kindness, who never arbitrarily banned people, or made content free comments against those who disagreed with him, or added abusive tags, or otherwise showed anything other than cool political analysis and judgement. 4. Do you have a girlfriend or boyfriend? Because I think I love you

Hi

My names Brit. And I'm an Obama Royalisy Enforcer thug,

Let me come clean. This has been weighing on my conscience for too long now. I need to atone, make reparations, confess.

Like most other Koolaid drinkers I'm a British MI6 double agents (or is my Brit handle a triple bluff? Who knows?). During the Primaries we got on our jack boots and stormed all over this place, mainly because we're trying to undo the American Declaration of Independence. Forget your President being a Nazi Muslim Communist. That's the least of your worries. Obama is a <b> secret Brit</b>, born in a former British colonies, and we're going to take our country back, and funnel out all the wealth you've created with your high valued housing stock and banking industry...

Oh. OK.That didn't work. So we deliberately spoilt oil everywhere. Oh yeah. And dominated your TV shows with secret Fifth Columnist Brits speaking in convincing American accents. 

The annoying thing is that we had nearly achieved this spectacular reconquista of our old colonies, when you come along and blow the gaff. Thanks to cogent, brave and articulate Lexington militia like you, we've been foiled in our devious plan, and MYDD has been rescued..

As to your points, you're completely correct.

1. All through the primaries this site was filled with Obamabot diaries on the rec list. 

2. Fearless freedom fighters like Texas Darlin, Universal and Alegre were consistently denigrated, silenced, censored, imprisoned and tortured by Koolaid drinkers who did like 'argue back', and said Obama could win the election, that he wasn't a Muslim, or lying about his academic career. 

Our devious Stalinist Gestapo then pulled the ultimate trick of 'changing reality' and making Obama win the election just to make all those people look stupid.

That's really evil

3. All through this time, Jerome was a model of reasonableness and reconciliation, standing above the fray, almost a God Like figure of sagacity and kindness, who never arbitrarily banned people, or made content free comments against those who disagreed with him, or added abusive tags, or otherwise showed anything other than cool political analysis and judgement.

4. All politics is about being For or Against Obama. Nothing else matters. Political logic, reason, debate be damned. This site would thrive if it just became more Anti Obama.  It would be more progressive. It would be live an unpredictable. Illiterate and uniformed trolls would never post here again. And Jerome would be a millionaire. With so few Anti Obama sites out there (thanks to us Royalist thugs) MYDD would get all the traffic. 

5. Do you have a girlfriend or boyfriend? Because I think I love you

 

by brit 2010-10-31 08:15PM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

hows about a timely -

whatever...

will that do?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 08:18PM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

Not really. I expect more fail from you. But don't worry, there's enough in your diary to feel an army of fail termites for another couple of aeons

by brit 2010-10-31 08:43PM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

normally the beat downs make some kind of sense..

but not always...

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 08:53PM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

Helps to have an IQ higher than room temperature - in celsius BTW

by brit 2010-10-31 08:55PM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

consider me so beaten and humbled by your singular wittiness.

better now?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 09:24PM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

Much. Thanks

by brit 2010-11-01 07:47AM | 0 recs
RE: tell me obama royalist enforcer thugs...

ill go back and read the above again - last time i just skimmed it because it just seemed like smug insulting fun - which is not what this diary was about - but ill give it another read - after tomorrow..

by changeagain2012 2010-11-01 12:35PM | 0 recs
LOLZ!!

Is There NO place for a Clintonian on the vast world wide web? Censorship Indeed..

I seem to remember quite a bit of vitriol from both sides of the fence in the Barry / Hillary war of 2008. But unfortunately, this "Family Feud" isn't the cause of the demise of myDD. MyDD suffers from a lack of content, a lack of stickyness. I come to this site twice a day only to notice an article from yesterday "above the fold" if it were. FDL is merely a click away from here, and If I'm not getting fresh info / opinion, I'm gone.

As for this article, LOL!!!

I'm saddened to see the poster can't keep the salt from the wound, but I would suspect no less from one who only remembers the halcyon days of the Roarin' 90's.

The good old days weren't all that good, and Today isn't as bad as it seems. - Billy Joel

by Lane Monk 2010-10-27 04:07PM | 0 recs
here is a -

perfect example.

thanks for being exhibit A.

if this site is so awful and without "content" and does not show the Loyal "stickyness' that you demand -

why did you come here today?

Oh yeah - to find a diary which you can ridicule and LOL at...

Seems some bad things never change...

 

You Obama obsessed enforcers dont feel happy enough that you have run everybody off from this site...you check back regularly to salt its earth to make sure it never can rise again.

As we lose the Congress and most of the states a week from today, I hope you and yours have a good election night - you people sure have EARNED it.

by changeagain2012 2010-10-27 04:15PM | 1 recs
and oh yeah

I know !

25 million new jobs and an unemployment rate 1/3rd of obama's was just soooo terrible!

by changeagain2012 2010-10-27 04:17PM | 0 recs
Yes.

Yes.  Yes they could.  Yes they did.  Then they euthanized our senior citizens, shredded the constitution, and set up a Marxist, Jihadi, Athiest, anti-White, South American dictatorship.  They took away our guns too.  And they destroyed the economy as a way to leverage their power against Christianity.  Soon, they will send us to internment camps in the Kenyan-Indonesian homeland.

Oh, yeah.  And Woodrow Wilson.

by Strummerson 2010-10-27 10:01PM | 0 recs
Oh, yeah. And Jerome Armstrong

Isnt he the root of all Obama failures.

by changeagain2012 2010-10-27 11:57PM | 1 recs
RE: Oh, yeah. And Jerome Armstrong

Yeah.  Those thugs.  I hate when they argue that.  It's like they're thoughts are all being controlled by some secret technology.  They can't think for themselves.  So they attack Jerome all in the same way at exactly the same time.  

They're forcing people to have abortions now.

 

It's diabolical, I tell you.  DIABOLICAL!

by Strummerson 2010-10-28 12:10AM | 0 recs
RE: Oh, yeah. And Jerome Armstrong

Jerome's a fricking genius. During the UK election this year he told me how the Lib Dems, who he briefly worked for, were way more progressive than Labour. And what happened. The Lib Dems teamed up with the Tories to create the most right wing cost cutting budget in 80 years.

Jerome knows stuff nobody else does.

Stop knocking him. Stop killing hope. Stop hurting America

by brit 2010-10-31 08:53PM | 0 recs
RE: Oh, yeah. And Jerome Armstrong

simply explain why you feel compelled to come here if you have no respect for and/or hate him so much?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 09:27PM | 0 recs
BTW

Why doesn't Jerome intervene and ban all the haters in support of your valorous defense of him?  

He could.

It would certainly strike a glorious blow in the name of ... free speech.  

Since you oppose repression, I'm sure you'd support such a move.

by Strummerson 2010-10-31 09:06PM | 0 recs
RE: BTW

simply because i dont think hes a wanna be censor junior fascist dissent squasher net bully like you and yours.

please explain why you feel compelled to come here if you have no respect for and/or hate him so much.

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 09:31PM | 0 recs
RE: BTW

I get it. So it's all about the leader, and keeping in lock step with him.

Now who's the Royalist?

 

Credit to Jerome where it's due: he has put up with a lot of abuse for his stances on various issues. For a long time he never banned any who abused him, only other posters. 1

by brit 2010-11-01 07:49AM | 0 recs
RE: BTW

huh?

I have, accidently it seems, found myself agreeing with just about everything ive ever read him write - 

 

but the idea that he is any sort of leader to me is silly.

i was in DC politics at the WH level more than a decade before he hit the nets and anywho - in my world these sites have no impact at all - except as a way to get a mass mailing out to the hinterlands for free.

thats the view of the netroots from DC (the convention thing is different - but i dont gots the time to get into that) 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-01 12:32PM | 0 recs
by jeffroby 2010-10-28 07:06AM | 1 recs
so how have the roving
Obama Royalist Enforcer Thugs

responded to you!?

with nukes?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-28 12:38PM | 1 recs
RE: so how have the roving

Yes.  A nuclear holocaust.  Melting flesh. Radiation poisoning.  And abortion.

by Strummerson 2010-10-28 05:02PM | 0 recs
RE: so how have the roving

Nothing special.  Denouncing me is an almost daily feature on OpenLeft, and a lot of people like me at FDL.

My current plan is to draw a line in the sand over the recommendations of the Catfood Commission.  Any cuts in SS or the safety net becomes cause for Dump Obama.

by jeffroby 2010-10-28 11:50PM | 1 recs
RE: so how have the roving

Denouncing me is an almost daily feature on OpenLeft

thats funny

i was livid over the wasteful struvrure of the stimulus  (7% to infrastructure? wtf?) and hcr reform that was soo disgusting with the big pharma deal etc and about ready to revolt when he backed spector (who ive fought for years) but i left camp the morning he announced he was gonna over turn 40 years of dem policy and activism and open the coasts to new drilling.

im very done with him.

by changeagain2012 2010-10-30 09:31PM | 0 recs
Stop doing acid.

I supported Clinton to the max and was never banned.

I seem to be in the minority here today, in my support of Obama.

When will idiots on the left learn to direct their fire at the opposition ... the republicans.

 

By the way, I must say that the blogs that are most agressive in attacking Obama appear to be mostly single issue oriented.   They are fixuated on gay marriage, and more so, on 'Don't Ask Don't Tell'.    If Obama had just issued an exec order, half of his online problems would have never arisen.  

by RichardFlatts 2010-10-28 10:39AM | 1 recs
RE: Stop doing acid.

Have you checked out FireDogLake?

by jeffroby 2010-10-30 08:39PM | 0 recs
RE: Stop doing acid.

i like jane hampsher,

 

shes no royalist for anybody

 

and she doest live to get on tv

by changeagain2012 2010-10-30 09:33PM | 1 recs
RE: Stop doing acid.

she doest live to get on tv

 

?? You sure about that?

by brit 2010-11-01 07:49AM | 0 recs
RE: Stop doing acid.

yup

by changeagain2012 2010-11-01 12:28PM | 0 recs
from Wall Street Giveaways to Offshore drilling to DADT - my enemy IS in the White House

well RichardFlatts i looked back at your record here and saw no full throated defences of hillary from back when - actually no posts defending her at all - so i dont know if youre "not being banned" says anything at all about the carnage that took place here.

 

and as to those angry over Obamas refusal to act ob DADT -

MAYBE those asking for equal human and civil rights for gays have a right to be very angry at obamas endless deceits on this.

 

yesterday he told the bloggers that he still thought the only answer was a congressional repeal - without explaining how thats possible when it already failed once by eight votes in the senate and now that he is about to lose us another 7 or 8 seats - when does he expect we will the votes?  2017? 2021?

then he lectures the blogger that he doesnt feel the criticism hes gotten from the gay community over this is "fair".

poor baby!  maybe he should call up his friend the rev, donnie mcgurkin for a good cry.

he has lied to the gay community.  he will not spend his political capital on this - he wants others to be responsible for the overturning of gay rights - not him.


by changeagain2012 2010-10-28 11:16AM | 0 recs
looking through strummersons old comments

i found this one.

"You repeat the entire script of deranged and degraded PUMA imbeciles without missing a single cliche!!!

oh boy - the irony."

 

yeah - the irony just burns dont it?  

those danged dissenters are dastardly, demented, dangerous and just gotta be be damaged, dehumanized and ah heck, why not - derided and destroyed too. delightful!

by changeagain2012 2010-10-28 11:41AM | 2 recs
RE: looking through strummersons old comments

Yes.  Your research reveals how I was once in the sway of Obama's armies of the night.  I have no idea how I managed to free myself from my former thuggery.  Somehow, I wrenched my mind free from their nefarious totalitarian mind control.  

This transformation indeed puts me in the ironic position of the once degraded and now enlightened. What I need to concentrate on now is cultivating your mastery of alliteration.  How do I now protect those "danged dissenters" whom I clearly once labeled both "demented" and "dangerous" and whom I so clearly "damaged" and "dehumanized" while "deriding" and "destroying" them?  How could I have been SO AWFUL???!!!!

Please show me how to respect those who disagree with me without afflicting them as I clearly did.  I practically participated in generating genocide, at least virtually.  

I guess the first step is learning from you how to confront those you disagree with, without calling them names.

Can you show me how this is done?

by Strummerson 2010-10-28 04:34PM | 1 recs
happy to see that one of the royalist enforcers

after destroying mydd - still comes here

cheers to summerman

by changeagain2012 2010-10-28 09:14PM | 0 recs
RE: happy to see that one of the royalist enforcers

Just trying to wash all of the blood off my hands.  It's so sticky and dark.  And my nightmares won't let me sleep.  But since my apostasy, my former messiah is sending thugs after me as well.  You clearly know more than most about his secret police.  My days are numbered.  If I have to choose between being strangled with piano wire and submitting to his "re-education" program, I guess I will open a vein.  Then maybe, just maybe, I will have succeeded in recovering a glimmer of my humanity.

And mea culpa to Jerome for destroying the dream that was his blog.

by Strummerson 2010-10-29 09:35AM | 1 recs
RE: happy to see that one of the royalist enforcers

why do you come here if you dont respect jerome and hate him so much?

is it because you dont respect jerome and hate him so much?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-29 08:19PM | 0 recs
RE: happy to see that one of the royalist enforcers

Why would you think I hate Jerome or disrespect him?

And btw, Jerome can choose to ban whomever he wishes.  It's his website. 

by Strummerson 2010-10-31 02:03PM | 0 recs
Not the only time

There definitely is a sect out there that are are forcefully pushing hate politics. I was reminded by this of the election day harassment to voters at the voting area. Maybe you remember the two men of the New Black Panther organization outside of a voting area in Philadelphia with night sticks, or billy clubs. This type of thuggery, unfortunately, are also a demographic voting base for president Obama.  And it seems that Jerome was extending a violent arm to the online internet world as well.

by jeffrtho 2010-10-29 05:10PM | 0 recs
RE: Not the only time

i dont really blame jerome - oh boy the beating he took and is still taking from these thugs.

back then, i think he bravely said his piece and took the swats and let the moderators run and ruin this site.

its those fellows - who stabbed him in the back hundreds of times - that banned all the hillary supporters because - being ambitious "progressives" - they sure didnt want to carry the weight for the mydd loathing that was a fervent rage coming from the thugs at the orange blog and its satellites of obot hillary haters.

(those moderators Im sure took his money for working here though - didnt they?)

jerome is their victim, not the bad guy.

and where are these ambitious boys now?  gone too.

 

by changeagain2012 2010-10-29 08:28PM | 0 recs
I HATE Democrats Saying They're Hated

Hillary's supporters found a home here, but it is obvious they've long ago left the building. I guess being nobly misunderstood doesn't have a two-year shelf life. It was a pretty nasty atmosphere here two years ago from both sides--not unlike the last couple months of battle between Hillary and Obama.

But to announce that the reason no one's here is that Obama supporters said bad things to Hillary supporters is ludicrous.

No one's here because the only thing that ever gets rec'd is Jerome's I-told-you-sos. You'll note that at this point there are a total of 4 recs on all the diaries in the left column.

No one's here, because there is almost nothing going on here except self-pity and depression. And I just HATE that...

by Hoomai29 2010-10-29 07:35PM | 1 recs
RE: I HATE Democrats Saying They're Hated

why do you come here if you dont respect jerome and hate him so much?

is it because you dont respect jerome and hate him so much?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-29 08:11PM | 0 recs
Hoomal29

if you are right and jerome is a hillary loving shill - then why in the world did all the hillary dems leave?

 

and if you simply think the obot enforcer thugs only said 'bad things" to Hillary supporters - well, youre either decietful on this or you didnt actually know what was happening.

the hillary supporters both before and after the primary were attacked by swarms of Obot thuggies - it wasnt people just saying - go away Puma...

So let me ask you - if you hate here so much - why do you feel the need to come here and attack both the site and its host - if its not to enforce the Obama royalist enforcer rule that myDD will not be allowed to come back to life if its readership is either pro Hilary and/or anti Obama?

by changeagain2012 2010-10-29 07:54PM | 0 recs
jeffrtho

the obot roaving enforcer thugs are simply online versions of that viscous fool ed shultz.

A former right winger you know who now has brought his brown shirt bullying tendencies to batter those that oppose hillary and more importantly...keep him somewhat rich and merely infamous...

our glen beck

(as maddow is our hannity, olbermann is our Oreilly and matthews is our ..well, matthews)

by changeagain2012 2010-10-29 07:58PM | 0 recs
sorry BIG mistake in comment above!

the obot roaving enforcer thugs are simply online versions of that viscous fool ed shultz.

A former right winger you know who now has brought his brown shirt bullying tendencies to MSNBC to batter those that oppose OBAMA and more importantly...keep him somewhat rich and merely infamous...

our glen beck

(as maddow is our hannity, olbermann is our Oreilly and unparalleled clinton/gore hater chris matthews disgracefully became our ..well, chris matthews)

by changeagain2012 2010-10-29 08:09PM | 0 recs
RE: Did Obama Royalist Enforcer Thugs Run Everybody Off From MyDD?

As someone who supported Obama, I have no problem bashing him for what he did wrong.  I am not in any niche - left or conservative. This diary is a whiny joke. For you to equate Maddow with Hannity (in your last comment) is ridiculous and shows how off the walls the PUMA movement was. Maddow is to the left of my ideology, but no thinking person can say she is dishonest and a shill like Hannity. Hannity was to the right of Bush Jr, yet just to be a partisan shill, he would glorify every little thing Bush Jr did. Maddow hasn't had a problem being objective about Obama and it did not just boil down to a gay marriage issue for her, even if she feels more strongly about it than I do.

by Pravin 2010-10-30 08:00AM | 0 recs
RE: Did Obama Royalist Enforcer Thugs Run Everybody Off From MyDD?

i suggest you go to the daily howler and read somerby in depth about this.

her show is dishonest very, very often 

 

as bob would say - she plays down to the rubes...

by changeagain2012 2010-10-30 09:35PM | 0 recs
There Was a Poster Here...

In the primary days with the handle Holden Caulfield, among others; he knew the history of the IWW and the Spanish Civil War quite well, a real old school lefty.  An Emiliano Zapata fan, that kind of thing.  Was always plugging Bob Somerby.  Called himself a 'yellow dog' Democrat.  He posted borderline outrageous stuff but always with unbridled enthusiasm and an uncritical assertiveness which I found quite charming, really.  Is that you? 

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-01 03:58PM | 0 recs
A few things:

1: Clinton was owned by the same people that own Obama

2: The policies would be the exact same, if not worse

3: Obama had the advantage of being neither a Clinton nor a Bush, and that's it

4: The last election was a desperation move by the American people to slow down negative change, it worked: the task at hand in 2009 was to use that newly bought time to gather forces for real change.

5: If you are to blame the DKos folks for anything, it was for torpedoing any chance for a Progressive / Ron Paul alliance that would have been the nucleus for any real change; and for

6: apologizing for a doomed to fail administration, again, preventing real change

by Paul Goodman 2010-10-30 05:46PM | 0 recs
RE: A few things:

1. whatever

2. oh puleeze...the 800 billion in stimulus would have been 94% to infrastructure and not 7% as is obamas.

 

the list of other differences is very, very long and i dont have time to get into it - but be sure of this hillary would never have announced that she was overturning the 40 year dem policy on offshore drilling and open the coasts to drilling.  be very sure of this.

3. huh?  oh that cute bush-clinton-bush-clinton thingee the kids recited non stop?  well the clinton years still look good looking back and the bush ones bad..and thats really it.

4. whatever part 2.  well how is that changey hopey thing workin for ya?

5. REALLY  whatever.

6. huh? part 2

by changeagain2012 2010-10-30 09:41PM | 0 recs
RE: A few things:

"how is that changey hopey thing workin for ya?"

I don't think Hillary would want any of us quoting Palin.  I do not dishonor her with such tactics.  I don't think you should either.  Please show us a better way.

by Strummerson 2010-10-31 02:02PM | 0 recs
RE: A few things:

Palin: "how is that hopey - changey" thing workin for ya?"

 Me -  "how is that changey - hopey thing workin for ya?"

 

see the difference?

now THAT'S satire.

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 02:54PM | 0 recs
RE: A few things:

Oh.  I'm sorry.  I missed the satirical intent.  My apologies.

by Strummerson 2010-10-31 04:44PM | 0 recs
Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

I'm sorry, but Barry O is the most conservative president since Hoover. Hillary is no liberal either. The reason Dems will go down in flames this year is because nobody has stood up for liberal ideals since Howard Dean. Traditional Democrats my ass. Where? In Alabama?

by Fridley 2010-10-31 11:24AM | 0 recs
RE: Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

Obama is Bush 44.

Ask BP or any Wall Street banker.

by changeagain2012 2010-10-31 02:55PM | 0 recs
RE: Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

Of course, Wall Street loves Obama - that's why they're massively funding republican candidates.

Fule. 

by brit 2010-11-01 07:50AM | 0 recs
RE: Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

look back at the Obama FEC reports from the 1st Qer of 2007 on.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-01 12:27PM | 0 recs
RE: Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

I actually think he's Ronald Reagan.  That's why no one can find his birth certificate.

by the mollusk 2010-11-01 06:04PM | 0 recs
LOL

Given the sharp veer to the Right of the GOP in recent cycles that's not as snarky as it may seem.

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-01 08:13PM | 0 recs
RE: Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

Who did Larry Summers work for before Obama took his advice???

 

Clinton.

Wall street abuses were flourishing under Clinton's presidency too.

by Pravin 2010-11-02 09:30PM | 0 recs
RE: Obama, Hillary: Progressives? Really?

Oh please don't confuse the facts with the issue at hand.  And why can't you tolerate dissent?  Stop disappearing the PUMAs in their moment of righteous vindication.

by Strummerson 2010-11-02 10:30PM | 0 recs
I get the sense...

... that if anyone disagrees with you, we become "Royalists."  I'm reminded of Bill O'Reily.

I hope you continue to post here, changeagain2012, but I respectfully disagree with this post.  I also was around in 2007 and I liked Edwards and Kucinich until they dropped out.  I'm sure we could play the "what it would have been like if XYZ (Clinton) had been nominated" for days, but our situation now makes that argument moot.

Obama sucks.  What do you want to do about it, that's what I'd really like to know.  If it was Obama or Clinton I might go with Clinton today, sure, but really I'd rather get an Alan Grayson or better on the scene than Clinton.

I think what ALL of the blogs are best at doing seems to be exactly what we don't need: articulating (and disagreeing about) the problem.  Dump Obama?  Okay, and then what?  How do we replace all the corporate Dems in Congress without giving the Republicans another six to ten years of domination?

We can keep talking about the problems, but lets also start getting some real discussion going to articulate a positive vision of where to go next.

by jlars 2010-11-01 12:31PM | 0 recs
ok

... that if anyone disagrees with you, we become "Royalists."

no, thats a term reserved for obama - can do no wrong - apologists.

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Obama sucks.  What do you want to do about it, that's what I'd really like to know.

well, ill write my opinion about that later - but it does not involve a hillary challenge.

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ive worked that district in a race back in the 9os.  its prime visible real estate for a high profile Dem.

but imho losing Alan Grayson is a good thing.  the talibam dan ad he ran is completely unacceptable. we will win it back next time with someone who will vote the same - but keep down the hate filled histrionics

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How do we replace all the corporate Dems in Congress without giving the Republicans another six to ten years of domination?

imho we back the kind of candidate like the clinton represented.  someone that the rich guy, main street and big unions (my world) can all get behind

a guy like steny hoyer as new minority leader is a step in that direction.  labor loves the guy as do the business folk i hear.

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by changeagain2012 2010-11-01 01:17PM | 1 recs
Grayson?

Frankly he's one of the few representatives in either party who's responded to the mortgage crisis with integrity.  Why get rid of him?

by Shaun Appleby 2010-11-01 04:01PM | 0 recs
okay, okay

I give up.

What's a royalist?

by the mollusk 2010-11-01 05:36PM | 1 recs
AreYouReady?

Is that you?

by Bush Bites 2010-11-02 09:07AM | 1 recs

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