Kathleen Sebelius: "He's Not Qualified" = Racism

From the Kansas City Star:

The Democrats are throwing out what they consider to be code words that might be used by people who don't want a black president.

Sebelius offered up "he's not qualified" and "he's too liberal" as potential code words.

Obama said he might be called "inexperienced" and "young."

Say what?

A lot of Democrats didn't think Obama was well-qualified to be president. That's part of the reason why millions voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

Face it: There are plenty of racist Americans who won't vote for Obama because he's black. We all know that.

But let's not allow Obama, Sebelius and others to chill the discussion -- by the GOP or Americans of all parties -- about Obama's actual qualifications for the presidency.

Won't it be a great day in American when it's unremarkable a biracial man is the nominee of a major party, and we're allowed to evaluate his qualifications like any other candidate?

Tags: obama, Sebelius (all tags)

Comments

58 Comments

Catfish2: "I am Concerned" = Trolling

Go on.

by Brandon 2008-06-25 07:39PM | 0 recs
i dont see actual quotes from from the linked

article.  but if in fact that's what was said by sebelius - its a huge STRECH, offensive and not going to work.

by canadian gal 2008-06-25 07:42PM | 0 recs
Re: i dont see actual quotes from from the linked

That's putting it mildly.  My reading of it is that she didn't say that at all - I have to look at it really cockeyed to get that meaning out of what she said.  

And yet you put it found its way into a screaming headline.   This is about smearing the only other woman who's in serious consideration for the VP slot.

by MeganLocke 2008-06-26 01:34AM | 0 recs
Re: i dont see actual quotes from from the linked

No, of course she didn't say that:

I see that Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has joined Barack Obama in warning Americans to watch out for the GOP playing the race card this fall. Heck, the Democrats are already doing that, to a degree.

As if people didn't know Obama is black, Sebelius and others are saying that Republicans would "try and frighten people about him" because of his race.

The Democrats are throwing out what they consider to be code words that might be used by people who don't want a black president.

Sebelius offered up "he's not qualified" and "he's too liberal" as potential code words.

Obama said he might be called "inexperienced" and "young."

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/1515

by skohayes 2008-06-26 02:47AM | 0 recs
Wheat from chaff...

Won't it be a great day in American when it's unremarkable a biracial man is the nominee of a major party

I'll agree with that...but would amend it to:
'Won't it be a great day in America when it's unremarkable that a woman or a biracial man is the nominee of a major party'.

by Kysen 2008-06-25 07:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Kathleen Sebelius

Hear no evil, say no evil, speak no evil.  This is the mantra that must be recited when discussing our presumptive candidate.

Governor Sibelius has laid down the gauntlet and served notice on everyone who might be a tad concerned about Obama's rather thin resumé.  

I'm having a flashback to the days after 9-11 when Ari Fleischer said "Watch what you say....".

by Radiowalla 2008-06-25 07:47PM | 0 recs
fuck you

Thin compared to who?

If you diminish or belittle the accomplishments of a successful black man don't be surprised when you are called a piece of shit racist.

When you try and tell us Obama is only 6.25% black, and use terms like bi-racial as some kind of wedge in the black community, don't be surprised if you are called a racist.

Same goes for calling Senator Obama, 'Barky'.

Same goes for calling Michelle ugly.

If you call the Obama's a racist, YOU are projecting.

It is pretty fucking simple actually.

by Is This Snark 2008-06-25 08:00PM | 0 recs
Re: fuck you
While I agree with the sentiments above...you took it a step too far in the personal direction.
The FU was that step.
by Kysen 2008-06-25 08:02PM | 0 recs
The poster

claims Obama is calling people traitors.

More of the same sick shit that tries to compare Obama to bush.

These people call Obama illiterate and stupid as well.

We have a guy fully qualified, backed by the whole party, ideologically in tune with every major principle, yet people will still vote against him and for the white guy that spits on their ideals?

No it's not racism. And it is a dam foolish thing to claim.

Yea right.

I spent 7yrs being called a traitor for being on the right side of history.

Now I'm supposed to let douches like radiowalla tell call me a traitor too?

Not likely.

by Is This Snark 2008-06-25 08:10PM | 0 recs
im not sure where you are getting...

all this extrapolating from that comment.  just my 2 cents.

by canadian gal 2008-06-25 08:12PM | 0 recs
silly

I'm just making it all up of course.

Catfish
RadioWalla
grlpatriot

are reccing this diary on its merits.

by Is This Snark 2008-06-25 08:20PM | 0 recs
Re: silly

At least two of them leapt to John McCain's defense when "losing his bearings" was supposed to be a knock on his age.

by MeganLocke 2008-06-25 11:17PM | 0 recs
Re: im not sure where you are getting...

I think it was the comparison to Ari Fleischer.  That comparison was completely inappropriate, and the original poster should apologize for it immediately.

by mistersite 2008-06-25 08:27PM | 0 recs
I called you a traitor?

Ye, Gods, you must be smoking some pretty strong stuff!

But you did call me a "douche."  That was really charming.

by Radiowalla 2008-06-26 07:37AM | 0 recs
So he's not bi-racial?

Since bi-racial is a wedge, we're not supposed to say he's bi-racial?

I was trying to be sensitive. Tiger Woods says he's bi-racial.

by catfish2 2008-06-25 08:29PM | 0 recs
Re: So he's not bi-racial?

Didn't you post a diary yesterday tut-tutting about how nasty everybody is on the internets?

by BlueinColorado 2008-06-25 09:41PM | 0 recs
Re: So he's not bi-racial?

We warned about this in the beginning.

ANY criticism will be called racism, it's already beginning.

Obama must be resisted for this simple reason.

by rankles 2008-06-25 10:35PM | 0 recs
Re: So he's not bi-racial?

Yeah.

Also cause he's black.

by MeganLocke 2008-06-26 01:35AM | 0 recs
Oh, same to you!

I said nothing whatsoever about Obama's race.  Nothing.

I can see that it is time to say goodbye to MyDD.  I've been away on vacation and I can see that the place has become a den of incivility, just like DKos.

by Radiowalla 2008-06-26 07:33AM | 0 recs
It's become repopulated

with Democrats who support the Democratic nominee. This place has always been uncivil, but you had no objection to that when it was the racist pigs from No Quarter dominating the conversation.

For those who don't want the Democratic nominee to win, the comments section at Talkleft is still a nice friendly echo-chamber.

by Geekesque 2008-06-26 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: It's become repopulated

I lend a hearty "F--- yeah!" to your comment.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-26 11:20AM | 0 recs
Oh, you again.

I remember you as one of the nastiest posters at DailyKos, pursuing Clinton supporters 'round the blog to spew your brand of party spirit.  

It's people like you who make me wonder if I can really stomach voting for Obama in November.  

Goodbye.

by Radiowalla 2008-06-26 02:00PM | 0 recs
Of course, your cheerleading

of Susan Hu's Rezko diaries was the height of civility.  Because people like Alegre and SusieHu and Larry Johnson and Universal and Truthteller07 and TexasDarlin etc etc were about nothing but elevating the discourse.

Get over it already--you're not a victim.

by Geekesque 2008-06-26 02:12PM | 0 recs
Distortion

Here's what the actual paper reported (rather than the editorial that catfish2 linked to).

"That has been the Republican playbook for the last eight years," said Sebelius, an Obama ally. " 'He's not qualified, he's somebody who should scare you. He's too liberaI.' "

The Kansas Democrat, often mentioned as a possible running mate for Obama, said those were all "code words" to try to make voters "uncomfortable."

"I don't think anybody's going to go directly at the race issue, but that's going to be an underlying theme," she said in an interview this week.

Note the editing.  The reader cannot discern whether Sebelius herself connected the "code words" comment to the "race issue".

And Obama himself simply noted that race would be an issue, as he anticipated GOP attacks.

I remember when Hillary backers thought that the ability to anticipate and pre-emptively address GOP attacks was an asset, not a liability.

by JJE 2008-06-25 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Distortion

The article doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  I'm not sure if Sebelius made an incoherent point or they simply reported it in an incoherent way.

Obviously there's nothing racist about saying "he's too liberal" or "he's too inexperienced."  I hope, perhaps naively, that no one is trying to make a conscious effort to link the two in order to put those attacks off limits.

by Steve M 2008-06-25 07:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Distortion

Obviously there's nothing racist about saying "he's too liberal" or "he's too inexperienced."  I hope, perhaps naively, that no one is trying to make a conscious effort to link the two in order to put those attacks off limits.

There is and there isn't, with the inexperience theme.  The code the Republicans are using here is affirmative action... the attitude they've worked for years to cultivate among whites that affirmative action means an unqualified person of color is going to come along and take away opportunities from hard-working white people.

I don't think it's racist - and from the quote, neither does Sebelius - but with the Republicans I think we're going to see the inexperience theme take on some serious racial undertones.

by mistersite 2008-06-25 08:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Distortion

Well, given the fact that she referred to "the past eight years", I doubt she was saying that Kerry's "he's too liberal" was racism.

by MeganLocke 2008-06-26 01:37AM | 0 recs
The WORST thing Obama can do is

call someone racist - - the more post racial / post partisan he presents himself, the better he does.  Isn't that the lesson of January to June, with everyone's varied ups and downs?

by kosnomore 2008-06-25 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: The WORST thing Obama can do is

I think the lesson is of 2000 and 2004, he called them based on their past actions and current actions, his enemies are going to go racial on him and anyone with half a brain knows it.  He is getting out in front and planning accordingly, know when they say something stupid, he can sit back and know that they are exactly the negative stereotypes that we all know they are.  This is politics, he is no fool. I think the sitting around getting punched in the face constantly elections hoping Americans will "rise above" the filth are a recipe for disaster, I would use 200-2008 as proof of that.

by Brandon 2008-06-25 07:57PM | 0 recs
I agree 100% but

he needs to be sure he's not manipulated into being "the angry nationalist guy".  That's what they're trying to do to Michele, and they'd love an opening to do it to him.  The first time they get a film clip of him loosing his temper or being defensive and calling someone a racist, they'll do a viral video morphing it with a picture of Al Sharpton or Louie Farrakhan - - that is their plan, no?  (And, btw, I really like Sharpton, this isn't a put down of him.  Farrakhan, not so much!)

by kosnomore 2008-06-25 08:11PM | 0 recs
Re: I agree 100% but

kos, just wondering if you had changed your opinion about Dodd?  I recall that you hit him pretty hard two weeks ago but now, he's one of the leading spokesmen against this FISA crap.

by Blazers Edge 2008-06-25 08:12PM | 0 recs
As I said at the time, he's GREAT on

foreign / security issues, but his personal choices have been questionable (Countrywide is just the latest).  I think this Countrywide thing will bite him on the ass once the ethics committee is done looking at it, and he should recuse himself NOW from all banking committee matters affecting Countrywide (i,e., that would be everything).  I just haven't posted on it again because there's been no new developments since the ethics referral - - but stay tuned!

by kosnomore 2008-06-25 08:27PM | 0 recs
McCain cried too

when he accused Kerry of using the "age" card when Kerry called him "confused."  You might as well gin up the victimhood card if the other side is playing it as well, though it's something that I discourage.

by Blazers Edge 2008-06-25 08:04PM | 0 recs
I think there's a grain of truth there.

Part of the Republican branding of Barack Obama is going to be an attempt to paint him as the "Affirmative Action candidate" - an underqualified black man who beats out more qualified white people for the job because of well-meaning liberals.  The inexperience theme, I think, is definitely going to have that undertone to it.

The Republicans are going to try to make Barack Obama into the black kid with a middling GPA who got into the college your straight-A son or daughter got rejected from, or the black guy who got the promotion because the board of directors wanted diversity in management.  (I'm not saying that either of these things are true, mind you, just that that's going to be a dominant subconscious theme of the Republican branding.)  Given this, the theme of inexperience - of saying that he's not qualified for the job, and that if he takes the job from McCain it's going to just be another quota in action - is definitely going to be racially coded, even if not explicitly stated as such.

They'll let Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. push the envelope by overtly linking Obama to affirmative action (as I believe they already have), and then use the code-words - which have plausible deniability against accusations of racism - when they want to rile up some white folks against Obama.

by mistersite 2008-06-25 08:36PM | 0 recs
Re: I think there's a grain of truth there.

But what about the very real argument that they have: that Obama doesn't have any experience. Why make it racial? No experience is no experience. It has been, is, and will be Obama surrogates making it racial to deflect attention from his lack of experience.

by SophieL 2008-06-30 06:56PM | 0 recs
Re:

This is an editorial that weaves together a series of quotes in order to support the editorialist's viewpoint.  Shouldn't the original story stand on its merits?  The editorialist synthesizes facts to present an opinion, you present the opinion as fact.

by rfahey22 2008-06-25 08:44PM | 0 recs
Amen. Just ask two questions about Obama:

1) Can anyone look back on the job that Barack Obama has done in the United States Senate, and honestly say, "Well Done"?

2) Can anyone name a significant accomplishment that the Senator can claim during his time in the US Senate?

When I have raised these questions with friends and political associates, they--like Mrs. Sebelius--have suggested that my motives were racist. When in fact, all I am saying is that I feel that Sen.Obama has a very thin resume for one aspiring to the Presidency. And that his qualifications are less than impressive.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-06-25 09:03PM | 0 recs
So go vote for...

McCain or are you more of a Naderete?  

by tonedevil 2008-06-25 09:09PM | 0 recs
Probably McCain...but I'm so sick of elections

where I have to vote for "the lesser of two evils", I may just well stay home. The truth is, interest groups run the country--not parties, and not politicians. Barack thinks he's going to cut defense spending? Yeah, right. He'll do what Raytheon and General Dynamics tell him to do.

Great article of the front page of yesterday's New York Times, which details Barack's stand on our country's craven ethanol policy--nothing like being on the side of world famine. As the article points out, Barack is from the country's second largest corn producing state...no way he's going to piss of the Ag giants like Monsanto, Archer Daniels Midland, etc.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-06-25 09:21PM | 0 recs
That one was rich

didn't see a single diary about it here.

by catfish2 2008-06-25 10:15PM | 0 recs
Yeah....somehow I'm not surprised

I'm not exactly a fan of John McCain's, but it took a lot of guts for him to go into Iowa--in both 2000 and 2008--and express his opposition to this country's insane ethanol policy. If he had won Iowa AND New Hampshire in 2000, he would have stopped W cold. He took the same risk this year in pursuing the GOP nomination.

AND...with the hyper-inflation in commodities now engulfing the entire world, there's no way that anyone can say this is a "fringe" or trivial issue. I don't think the NY Times would have given it front page exposure if it was.

I'd love for one of Senator Obama's zealots to give a comparable example of something Barack has done that entailed a risk to his political ambitions, OR that bucked his party's orthodoxy.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-06-25 10:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Yeah....somehow I'm not surprised

Going to DK and telling Kossacks that their reverse-Rovian approach was wrong and getting slammed in comments.

Offering and defending during a Democratic presidential primary a healthcare plan that didn't have mandates.

Stating he would meet unconditionally with unfriendly foreign leaders, getting him slammed by both Clinton and McCain.

Opposing the Iraq War when all the party leadership supported it.

Stating he would perform strikes on terrorists in Pakistan even if Pakistan didn't give permission, getting him slammed by both Clinton and McCain.

Etc, etc, etc.  

BTW, a google search for "John McCain ethanol" leads to a first result of "John McCain flip-flops on ethanol in Iowa in Money Magazine.    

So yeah, it was pretty brave the way he completely changed his stance on the issue to help his presidential ambitions.  Profile in political courage, no doubt.  

Run along and get your McPoints.  

by bosdcla14 2008-06-25 10:53PM | 0 recs
Don't confuse gaffes with courage

by BJJ Fighter 2008-06-25 10:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Don't confuse gaffes with courage

I'm not.  A diary that no doubt took hours to write isn't a "gaffe."  A healthcare plan that took weeks, at least, to prepare isn't a "gaffe."  Two foreign policy positions that have been repeated again and again (no permission slips needed, and I'll talk to anyone), and were made after consultation with foreign policy folks isn't a "gaffe."

You can argue these policies are wrong to pursue but they're not gaffes.  And they definitely challenge the orthodoxy (as you seem to acknowledge, by trying to brush them off as gaffes).

Your weak response does Sen. McCain no service, but hopefully you won't get penalized and lose your McPoints.  I'm sure you have your eyes on some of the golf gear.  

by bosdcla14 2008-06-25 11:24PM | 0 recs
When he backtracks, it's a gaffe

his no preconditions pledge was a gaffe. His no mandates "universal" health care plan was electorally MUCH safer than asking people to pay mandates.

Opposing the Iraq War when your entire liberal Chicago district opposed it is a pretty good way to get re-elected. Funny how there's no recording or news report of the speech, and he had to re-create it in a studio.

Pakistan was a "lurch to the right" which he backtracked on, another gaffe.

by catfish2 2008-06-26 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Amen. Just ask two questions about Obama:

1) Can anyone look back on the job that Barack Obama has done in the United States Senate, and honestly say, "Well Done"?
Yes.  I do.

2) Can anyone name a significant accomplishment that the Senator can claim during his time in the US Senate?

Let's see... there was Obama/Lugar in arms control, Obama/Coburn in earmark reform, taking a lead role on Senate ethics reforms...

...oh, right.  I was supposed to not be able to say anything.  Sorry.  I'll play along.

No, I can't think of anything!  Gaaaa!  Racist!

by mistersite 2008-06-25 09:19PM | 0 recs
Even Casey laughed about "ethics reform"

When campaigning for Obama prior to the Pennsylvania Primary, Bob Casey gave the same feeble answer about Barack's accomplishments, i.e., the "ethics reform" bill.

When pressed about the details by Wolf Blitzer, he paused--then giggled--and finally admitted that the chief provision was that Senators had to be standing up while eating, should they accept a free meal from a lobbyist.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-06-25 09:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Even Casey laughed about

And yet it was still the most significant Senate ethics reform since Watergate.  I'd advise you read the whole thing - and pay particular attention to the amendment process, where you see Sen. Obama demonstrate leadership by being on the right side of virtually every amendment, whether it passed or not - rather than letting Wolf Blitzer tell you what's in it.

You also haven't minimized Obama/Coburn and Obama/Lugar yet.  If you were a good PUMA, you'd have been able to minimize all three in one go and earn Triple McCain Points.

by mistersite 2008-06-25 09:29PM | 0 recs
I specified "significant" accomplishment

This reminds me of the Gore-Bush debates in 2000...at one point, Al wandered across the stage and got in Bush's space. With this sly grin on his face, Gore asked Bush what he thought of the pending Dingell-Norwood legislation (still not exactly sure what he was talking about)

Bush just kind of stared at him and shook his head (you know it's bad when W is pitying the poor guy)...somehow, I expect most of the voters watching at home were doing the same thing.

SO--if Barack is asked during one of the debates to talk about his greatest accomplishments, let's hope for his sake that he doesn't babble about "Obama-Coburn" or "Obama-Lugar".....

by BJJ Fighter 2008-06-25 10:07PM | 0 recs
Re: I specified "significant" accomp...

i dont actually remember this exact occurrence, but the dingel/norwood legislation was the patients bill of rights i believe.

if your saying ignorance helped Bush win, i would agree, he certainly has plenty of it.

by falseintellect 2008-06-25 10:29PM | 0 recs
Speaking of Watergate

Obama is the first since Watergate to run a totally privatized general election campaign.

by catfish2 2008-06-25 10:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Speaking of Watergate

In other words, he won the Democratic primary.  Whoever the victor was was going to opt out; Hillary Clinton made the fact that she was opting out clear.

by MeganLocke 2008-06-25 11:22PM | 0 recs
She showed political courage

in admitting that. He lied to a lot of editorial boards and said he would opt-in.

by catfish2 2008-06-26 10:22AM | 0 recs
Re: She showed political courage

Really? Such as.

by MeganLocke 2008-06-28 06:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Speaking of Watergate

Yep.  And I couldn't be happier with that.  He's going to have the resources he needs to win.

by mistersite 2008-06-26 04:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Kathleen Sebelius

nuff of this racebaiting.. calling a person with 173 days of "experience" as inexperienced isnt racist.. geez w/e call me racist and I will show what real racism is.. here is an example..

I am of mixed color, and AA is not one of those colors. recently I went to pizza hut.. an AA server took care of us.. treated us like dirt.. gave us an undercooked pizza and when we protested.. she told us that was the way pizzas are made in america..

the irony was she was calling the lady on the next table maam.. offering her excellent customer service.. apologized for an undercooked pizza and told that she will replace the pizza.. and repeatedly treated her with utmost respect.. and guess what.. she was an african american lady..

now dat to me is racism.. dont overload the term racism when people equate a thin resume to inexperience.. obama is indeed less on experience compared to mccain.. however, he is more right than wrong compared to mccain on issues important to me and thats why I support him.. not because he is experienced! get a grip.. dont call people racist.. when the real racists are selling buttons making "whitehouse" jokes in texas, you accuse ordinary folks of being racist..

by gladiatorsback 2008-06-26 01:04AM | 0 recs
Thank you!

Thanks for injecting a note of sanity here.

by Radiowalla 2008-06-26 07:46AM | 0 recs
Look at the quotes

Stripped of the journalistic interpretation, this is what the paper actually quotes Sebelius as saying:

"a major effort to try and frighten people about him"

"That has been the Republican playbook for the last eight years. He's not qualified, he's somebody who should scare you. He's too liberal."

"code words"

"uncomfortable"

"I don't think anybody's going to go directly at the race issue, but that's going to be an underlying theme."


If they want to make hay out of what she said, why not post the full quotes? Why bury one- or two-word snippets in their own verbiage?

Always, always judge someone's words based on their words, not a reporter's paraphrase.

by jere7my 2008-06-26 01:35PM | 0 recs

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