Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09


Bonus Quote of the Day (Political Wire)
"We will lose on legislation. But we will win the message war every day, and every week, until November 2010. Our goal is to bring down approval numbers for Pelosi and for House Democrats. That will take repetition. This is a marathon, not a sprint." -- Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC), quoted by the National Journal, on the new Republican strategy.

This Modern World (by Tom Tomorrow)


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What's distressing about these tactics is that they have worked so well for so long.  And will continue to work as long as Democrats refuse to become educators and defenders of liberal issues.--Caro

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"Is There Anything Wrong With Saying Yes?" (by dday at Hullabaloo)
New York Times reporters had a conversation with Barack Obama on his plane, where they actually asked him if he were a socialist. Obama answered no, explained the thought process behind his budget, and later, after pondering it, actually called the reporters back and said, "It was hard for me to believe that you were entirely serious about that socialist question."... [B]eyond the debates over opinions which are obviously ridiculous, there's a larger point that was touched upon in the follow-up question about socialism by the Times. "Q. Is there anything wrong with saying yes?"

Only in a country where the balance of acceptable discourse has been so tainted and distorted that reasonable social democratic policies are completely forbidden from the conversation. And so you have Obama's advisers running to David Brooks to prove that they aren't crazy socialist radicals, but pragmatists. Which makes a certain political sense, but isn't actually true... I don't believe that Obama's team is made up of pragmatists. Because pragmatists would look at reality and do exactly what's necessary, regardless of ideological concerns.

Times Reporter Defends Asking Obama If He's A "Socialist" (by Greg Sargent at The Plum Line)
The unavoidable political context here ... is that Republicans and conservatives -- or "some people," as the paper put it -- are trying to tar Obama as a socialist right now in order to turn the public against his agenda.

Obama and the New York Times (by Eric Boehlert at County Fair, Media Matters for America)
The simple truth is that by asking Obama whether he was a socialist, the Times effectively endorsed the divisive right-wing rhetoric; the Times shoved it into the mainstream.
Eric says in this post that Times reporters haven't done this to past presidents, and he uses Bush as an example.  Now, I don't have Bob Somerby's memory on specifics, but didn't the media, including the Times, ask Bill Clinton and Al Gore the most embarrassing questions they could think of?  It's always Democrats who are asked ridiculous questions.--Caro

Working in a Cole Mind (by myiq2xu at The Confluence)
John Cole: "...The reason social conservatives and progressives both hate the media is because they really don't care about either group or their issues. This is about protecting the amassed wealth of the few."... Unfortunately, [Cole] and his readership are not ready to consider the logical implications of that idea.  Consider these two facts:

  1.  The media opposed Hillary Clinton, John McCain and Sarah Palin.
  2.  The media supported Barack Obama.
The only logical conclusion is that the media supported Barack Obama because they believed him to be the candidate that would best protect the amassed wealth of the few.
And they are being proven right, day after day, decision after decision.--Caro

So, if Obama's not a socialist, what IS he?
Obama: 'I am a New Democrat' (Politico, thanks to Cinie at The Confluence)
President Barack Obama firmly resists ideological labels, but at the end of a private meeting with a group of moderate Democrats Tuesday afternoon he offered a statement of solidarity. "I am a New Democrat," he told the New Democrat Coalition, according to two sources at the White House session. The group is comprised of centrist Democratic members of the House, who support free trade and a muscular foreign policy but are more moderate than the conservative Blue Dog coalition. Obama made his comment in discussing his budget priorities and broader goals, also calling himself a "pro-growth Democrat" during the course of conversation.

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Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

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Comments

24 Comments

Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

Can you find any other conclusion?

It's just too convenient to call names without ever feeling the need to examine what the person said.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2009-03-11 11:20AM | 0 recs
questions for Caro

Who do you think wrote "Shakespeare" and why is Obama trying to cover it up?

What was Obama doing on the grassy knoll in Dallas in 1963?

What does it mean that Hitler loved dogs and Obama is dog shopping?

How do you know that you're not just a brain in a vat being studied by non-terrestrial life forms?

What does it mean that Barack Obama and I have never been seen in the same place at the same time?

by Strummerson 2009-03-11 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: "examine what the person said."

Can you reach another conclusion?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2009-03-11 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: "examine what the person said."

Caro, while we're asking people to clarify/prove their arguments, you care to back this one up?

And they are being proven right, day after day, decision after decision.--Caro

How exactly are "they" "being proven right, day after day, decision after decision"? Care to back that up for us?

by Rumproast 2009-03-11 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: "examine what the person said."

They're not, of course.

by Jess81 2009-03-11 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: "examine what the person said."

Still no response from Caro regarding my question.  What a surprise.

by Rumproast 2009-03-12 05:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

How nice... posting more filth from the racist hate site The Confluence.  Might as well drop something in from stormfront.org while you're at it.

by mistersite 2009-03-11 11:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

The hate is right here.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2009-03-11 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

That's because you keep pulling it out of the racist cesspools in which it usually festers and reposting it here.

by mistersite 2009-03-11 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

There are plenty of regular posters here who preferred Clinton in the primaries and are treated with respect and amity.  Is the inverse even remotely true about Alegres, No.25, The Confluence?

by Strummerson 2009-03-11 01:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

What's distressing about these tactics is that they have worked so well for so long.  And will continue to work as long as Democrats refuse to become educators and defenders of liberal issues.--Caro

Now enjoy the rest of my cut-and-paste job where I dump all over the recently-elected Democratic president because I put take pride in putting petulance before politics.

p.s. Sarah rocks!

by Rumproast 2009-03-11 11:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

Bingo!

Thank you.

by WashStateBlue 2009-03-11 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

My pleasure.

And I nearly forgot...

LESS LESS LESS

by Rumproast 2009-03-11 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

You just don't get it do you? Quoting anything from the Confluence is akin to going to the Enquirer for your news.

by jsfox 2009-03-11 12:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

Not really.  The Enquirer is (a) not openly racist, and (b) occasionally right (see Edwards affair).

by mistersite 2009-03-11 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

Yea, Ok the Enquire would be a better choice than the Confluence.

by jsfox 2009-03-11 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

JSFOX ENDORSES NATIONAL ENQUIRER!!!

by Strummerson 2009-03-11 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

LOL!!!!!!!!!

by jsfox 2009-03-11 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Politics and Media Headlines 3/11/09

Thanks for this friendly interchange.  I'm currently being slandered as a right wing likudnik on another thread for suggesting that bi-nationalism (a left wing concept with marxist historical antecedents) should be part of a discussion of the I/P conflict.  It's ugly around here these days...

by Strummerson 2009-03-11 02:03PM | 0 recs
Well, I have always considered you

one of our most right-wing poster...WHAT????

by WashStateBlue 2009-03-11 02:14PM | 0 recs
It's true

I'm a likud shill apparently:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/3/11/1018 52/096

by Strummerson 2009-03-11 02:25PM | 0 recs
You have way more guts then me

I steer clear of those threads...

Of course, you actually know something about that subject, which makes you persona non grata when talking to the ideologues that hold sway on those diaries.

They really aren't there for dialogue, but to preach.

by WashStateBlue 2009-03-11 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: You have way more guts then me

I'm off to teach now.  I understand your steering clear.  But if you want to pop in and grab my back, it will be noted in your favor...

by Strummerson 2009-03-11 02:38PM | 0 recs
He said he was a "New Democrat"?!?!

In front of the New Democrat Coalition.  Holy fucking shit.  Is there no end to the disingenuousness of this man?  Next he'll be telling the Progressive Caucus that he's progressive!

by JJE 2009-03-11 11:19PM | 0 recs

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