Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vote for Obama

Trapped by a reporter, Florida congressman Allen Boyd (FL-02) struggled to explain his position on the 2008 presidential race.


U.S. Rep. Allen Boyd, a leader of the conservative Blue Dog caucus in Congress, said Wednesday he will vote for Sen. Barack Obama but shied away from endorsing his party's candidate for president.

Boyd said he can't support Sen. John McCain because he considers his GOP platform a continuation of President Bush's economic policies. Boyd, a Monticello Democrat elected to Congress in 1996, called Obama "a great candidate" with a good chance of winning nationally and carrying Florida's 27 electoral votes.

"I have never endorsed a candidate in a presidential race and I won't now," Boyd said. "I've got a race of my own and I'll stay focused on that. That's my job, to represent the interests of my folks."

Looks like he managed to contain his enthusiasm.

In other news, another Florida congressman, Tim Mahoney, attempted to avoid being tied to Obama by voicing his intention to skip the convention in Denver. A Georgia congressman, asked if Obama was better qualified for the presidency than McCain, said....

...nothing.


Since clinching the nomination last week, Obama has run into reluctance among congressional Democrats.

Rep. David Boren, the only Democratic congressman from Oklahoma, said Tuesday the Illinois senator does not have a record of bipartisan work in Congress. Rep. Tim Mahoney, D-Fla., a first-term member targeted by Republicans in a GOP-leaning district, said he will remain an uncommitted superdelegate but might not attend the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

Georgia Rep. Jim Marshall refused to say whether he considers Obama better qualified than McCain.


DNC officials started conflating statements of willingness to vote for Obama with official endorsements, and quantifying what they considered to be acceptable loss figures.


Democratic National Committeeman Jon Ausman of Tallahassee said he is not losing serious support among party leaders. Ausman said Boyd's statement that he will vote for Obama amounts to an endorsement.

"There are 28 Democratic governors, 51 U.S. Senators and 230-plus members of the House," said Ausman. "If possibly 10 of them don't officially endorse Obama, it's not a big deal."

Tags: 2008 election, FL (all tags)

Comments

55 Comments

Well, torture.

That's one way to get them to the polls.

by masslib1 2008-06-12 03:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, torture.

In all seriousness, you guys are taking advantage of a free and open site to throw salt in our eyes.

You wouldn't tolerate this at The Confluence or any of your other sites.  You never have.  Posts criticizing Hillary Clinton, or even the barest of praise for Barack Obama are immediately deleted.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 06:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, torture.

That's an awful lot of words for "troll".

by FlyingLizard 2008-06-12 06:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, torture.

If you are calling Jess a troll then please shut the fuck up and, yes, let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 11:41AM | 0 recs
Interesting to read

that you accomplished two Republican talking points:

  1.  Dilution of the meaning of torture; and
  2.  Spreading the meme of division (ha) within the Democratic ranks.

Amazing you don't spend more time on highlighting the 14 Senate Republicans who won't endorse McCain.  But then, you'd not get any points.

by gchaucer2 2008-06-12 03:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Interesting to read

a GOPer using GOP talking points and you are suprised?

by TruthMatters 2008-06-12 04:04AM | 0 recs
My only suprise

is that the GOPer is still here.  At least he/she/it was banned from DKos.

by gchaucer2 2008-06-12 04:07AM | 0 recs
Re: My only suprise

They're going to ride to his rescue shortly.  They gang of 7.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 04:26AM | 0 recs
actually, i still have a subscription to kos...

...which is easily verified by one click of the mouse. i could post there if i wanted; it's just that i don't post there anymore, partly because the low quality of the propaganda makes it so unsportsmanlike to shoot down. it's like sitting ducks.

smile for the camera and say quack.

i don't expect an apology or a retraction, because obamamania means never saying you're sorry. kos never apologized for the laughably bogus "hillary's ad darkened obama's face", and you'll probably follow his example. besides, it probably wouldn't do any good for you to start telling the truth again - nobody would believe you.

by campskunk 2008-06-12 05:32AM | 0 recs
Re: actually, i still have a subscription to kos..
i don't post there anymore, partly because the low quality of the propaganda makes it so unsportsmanlike to shoot down.

Stop that!  The irony is making me sneeze!
by username 2008-06-12 06:27AM | 0 recs
ah, so they only

got rid of your sockpuppet.  Well, at least you aren't contaminating the site.

by gchaucer2 2008-06-12 06:32AM | 0 recs
Re: actually, i still have a subscription to kos..

Campskunk, this is literally a GOP press release.  No one cares whether or not you have a nominal membership at kos: you're busted.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 08:14AM | 0 recs
I see alegre's back.

Come on, alegre, you were all "We must vote Democratic" in 2007. Come back and be a Democrat by supporting the Democratic nominee.

by bobdoleisevil 2008-06-12 08:30AM | 0 recs
Re: I see alegre's back.

She was all "we must vote Democratic" in 2008 too - when it looked like Hillary Clinton would win.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 09:09AM | 0 recs
I dropped that lame site a while ago

yo, you got as problem with me being sad? WTF is with the TR?

by zerosumgame 2008-06-13 06:51AM | 0 recs
Skunk seems oddly appropriate

Obama looks to be in very, very good shape, especially when compared to the guy who says coming home from Iraq isn't all that important.

From The Hill:

New Gang of 14 won't back McCain

At least 14 Republican members of Congress have refused to endorse or publicly support Sen. John McCain for president, and more than a dozen others declined to answer whether they back the Arizona senator.

Many of the recalcitrant GOP members declined to detail their reasons for withholding support, but Rep. John Peterson (R-Pa.) expressed major concerns about McCain's energy policies and Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) cited the Iraq war.

by niksder 2008-06-12 04:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

We appreciate your deep, dep concern, but there are 28 Democratic governors, 51 U.S. Senators and 230-plus members of the House. If possibly 10 of them don't officially endorse Obama, it's not a big deal.

Besides, isn't this this same party that "stole the nomination from Hillary"?  And your point is now what - that they don't like Obama either?  O-kay.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 04:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

That is hilarious Camp.  Thanks.  I needed a good laugh.

by Gabriele Droz 2008-06-12 04:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

Met with usual humor-deficit responses.

by Gabriele Droz 2008-06-12 04:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

As evident by your response, Gabby, of course. You've always been a model denizen of our community here.

by ragekage 2008-06-12 06:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

It is getting to be camp, isn't it?  In a generation or so there's going to be a whole subgenre of "hillary-kitsch" - I'm archiving Convergance and NoQuarter for the unintended humor.

It's like weird post-9/11 paranoia, plus Judy Garland style diva-worship, middle-aged guys attempting their hand at urban slang (see Johnson, Larry), conspiracy theories, and a dash of pre-1960's racial stereotypes.  It's not a political campaign, it's a cultural movement.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

The diva worship is a lot more directed at Obama.

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 05:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

....yeah, I remember when people could claim that with a straight face.  You're making me nostalgic!

by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

You guys say that out of habit now, I think, because if the events of the past few months haven't shown you otherwise, it never will- but keep pushing that old line, it's pretty telling. ;)

by ragekage 2008-06-12 06:48AM | 0 recs
Obama will lose every southern state...

at least Hil would have had a chance to take Arkansas and Florida.

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 05:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

Look, do we go to republican sites, troll it up, and chant about how John McCain is going to lose?  Do we talk about how half the Republican party can't stand him?  

No we don't.  We let you guys bask in The Leader You Can Believe in all day long.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

Just stating a fact, not trolling it up at all.  Sorry if the truth still bothers you.

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 06:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

No, it's not a fact at all. It's an opinion. You have the right to your own opinions, sir, but you do not have the right to your own facts. And as an opinion, it's worth as much as my daughters', who is currently filling her diaper- which is the level I'd put your assertion at.

by ragekage 2008-06-12 06:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

Yeah, but "you just can't handle my opinion" doesn't have the same cliche-power.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 07:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

Oh, funny man.  I can't type this I'm laughing so much.  I'm making a declarative statement that McCain won't win a single swouthern state and HRC could have won Ark. and FL.  You just don't like it, do you. Plus I'll say what the fuck I want, if it's all the same to you.

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

I was about to hide-rate that gem of yours, and then I read this:

I'm making a declarative statement that McCain won't win a single swouthern state and HRC could have won Ark. and FL.

Bravo to you, sir, for having such faith in our nominee!

by ragekage 2008-06-12 07:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

What gem? I type too fast at times. I meant to say that Obama won't win any state in the south, including Virginia.  I believe that to be the case.  And I've already stated numerous times on here that I don't care how I'm rated and that I'll be staying home on November 4th.

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 08:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

Well, of course, the question remains as to why you bother to hang around here at all, then? We're a site dedicated to electing progressive Democrats, and you're not interested in doing that. Which is fine with me, I don't think we need your particular brand of "help"- I'd much rather Senator McCain had your brand of help.

by ragekage 2008-06-12 08:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

It's amazing to me that the RNC puts out a memo, and Campskunk, Kingsbridge77, or soyousay ferret it here in no time at all, AND THEY'RE STILL MEMBERS IN GOOD STANDING.

Because campskunk's diary is an RNC memo.  Literally.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 08:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will lose every southern state...

Stop trying to censor Ragekage.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 07:48AM | 0 recs
I personally think McCain's got Alabama locked

up, but we can agree to disagree.

by bobdoleisevil 2008-06-12 08:26AM | 0 recs
huh

I thought Virginia was a "southern state". But then I thought my own state counted toward the nomination.

by BlueinColorado 2008-06-12 07:00AM | 0 recs
He going to fix all this by

throwing tax increases for the rich under the bus, claiming he's voted mostly with Bush, and reaching out to the religious right with a big messiah-fest at the Democratic National Convention.  

by masslib1 2008-06-12 05:14AM | 0 recs
Re: He going to fix all this by

Which is what the bluedogs, who LOVED Hillary, all want.

I went over to Riverdaughter's blog today, and the plan has evolved to not only vote for McCain, but to vote out every democratic lawmaker who backed Obama.  Which would put these guys in charge.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 06:59AM | 0 recs
goldberry has some issues.

by bobdoleisevil 2008-06-12 08:03AM | 0 recs
Re: goldberry has some issues.

Haha!

I finally at the age of 26 read The Lord of the Rings this month, and the references are EVERYWHERE.

Someone a couple of weeks ago said something about someone "gnawing at the ends of their old plots" and they were quoting The Two Towers, possibly without realizing it.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 08:12AM | 0 recs
Re: goldberry has some issues.

Wait a minute - she actually calls herself Goldberry?

Egads.  I am so signing up there as "Tom Bombadil".  I'll post in all doggerel, of course.

Away over the waterfalls
Comes Barack Obama, the law-giver
Trees and shrubs to him he calls
And elves and hobbits ...something.. meadow river

by Jess81 2008-06-12 08:22AM | 0 recs
She called herself that at Daily Kos

by bobdoleisevil 2008-06-12 08:25AM | 0 recs
Re: She called herself that at Daily Kos

But did she post in all italics about dwarves and magic rings?

Because if you're going to do it, you've got to go the whole nine-yards.  Don't mince about.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 08:26AM | 0 recs
Re: goldberry has some issues.

Wait a minute, was she the one who started calling Barack Obama "the precious"?

by Jess81 2008-06-12 08:25AM | 0 recs
Re: He going to fix all this by

The blue Dogs never loved Hillary.  Their constiuents did.  Get it straight.

by masslib1 2008-06-12 11:53AM | 0 recs
Re: He going to fix all this by

Are you talking about Confluence?  I don't see that.  In fact I see a diary saying we can't elect Republicans because of the SCOTUS issue.

by JustJennifer 2008-06-12 12:14PM | 0 recs
Focus

Leave the pot stirrers alone. Let's focus on November.

by jsfox 2008-06-12 05:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

OMG--10 Blue Dogs won't endorse Obama!

Whatever shall we do?  Run for the hillzzzzz!!!!!!

And did you hear about Joe Lieberman?  He might even speak at the Republican convention!!!

aaaaaggghghhghghghgh!!!!!!!!!   torture!!!11111!!!111!

by thereisnospoon 2008-06-12 05:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

Well, at least we can all agree that hearing Joe Lieberman speak is torture...

by buoren 2008-06-12 06:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

Torture!?  Please - hearing Joe Lieberman speak is no worse than your typical fraternity hazing.  Donald Rumsfeld told me so.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 06:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Congressman Admits Under Torture That He'll Vo

Exactly how do you define "torture"?

by katpee 2008-06-12 06:20AM | 0 recs
Funny diary Campskunk!

And funny as it is - Obama being too progressive for the Blue Dogs kind of makes me like him a whole lot more. ;-)

by DemAC 2008-06-12 06:37AM | 0 recs
Marshall's being kinda stupid. District is 40.9%

black.

by bobdoleisevil 2008-06-12 08:02AM | 0 recs
campskunk: keepin' it classy

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-12 08:21AM | 0 recs

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