Let me start off by saying I'm a die-hard Democrat who, while supporting Hillary during the primaries, will be happily pulling the lever for Obama on Nov. 4th. Obama is a phenomenally gifted orator who has delivered big time in the past, but this speech was so lame. On such a historic night, he waited until the last moment to cite its historic nature. I watched with several rabid supporters and half of them were falling asleep during this speech. It was just an off night, perhaps, and maybe the expectations and the pressure were too high, but I am so underwhelmed, and reading the comments here I feel like I saw a completely different speech. Schweitzer, Hill and Bill rocked it, but Obama, and so many others were so disappointing. I'm feeling discouraged by our prospects now, sensing the old snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victor
y demon around the corner. Clearly it's just me (and the Dems I watched with), and I HOPE it's just me, but wow, I think that speech sucked and I sure hope he gets back on his A-game in the coming weeks. OK, venting over, sorry to crap on the celebration.
"Most" is the operative word, and in an electorate this divided, as we all know too well, every vote counts. And they won't be working their asses off having bake sales or making calls, and they won't be writing checks. No other potential VP candidate has a bloc like she she does. You can cut off your nose to spite your face, but it ain't going to help you win. Luckily, the decision will be left up to his campaign, and not his vitriolic supporters, who btw, have never seemed to embody the new politics their candidate is always talking about.
Obama's first job, once he formally secures the nomination, will be to unify the party and bring back into the fold the 16+ million Clinton voters who, despite the protestation of many of Obama's voters, are indeed incredibly passionate about their candidate. The way to do this is to offer her the VP slot, just like JFK did with LBJ and Reagan with Bush I. Personally, as someone who thought Hillary would make the best president of my lifetime, I'd rather see her as majority leader than VP. But in order to heal the wounds, he's got to make the offer, much as the Obama believers would hate it. And the above arguments for the others mentioned don't take into account the numbers of rabid supporters that she has, as well as the complementary demographics and skills they'd have on a combined ticket. I would have preferred it with her at the top, but that's politics. It's in the best interest of all involved to heal this breach. I have no doubt Hillary will be extraordinarily graceful in defeat if shown the respect she deserves. What I'm less confident of is Obama's supporters recognizing that she exits this race with a powerful bloc, will wield it to have her say in the platform and she (and her millions of supporters) need to be welcomed into the GE campaign
I think Franken's funny (at least sometimes) and clearly he's intelligent, but really, is he the best we can do? A celebrity? What has he ever run before? What experience does he have that is remotely relative and that would prepare him for the role of US Senator? Even Sonny Bono had the sense to run for Congress first. Ugh.
Actually, A Problem From Hell indicts two people from the Cllinton administration above all-Susan Rice and Tony Lake. The former asks a meeting convened in the midst of the Rwandan genocide what it will mean for the congressional midterm elections and the latter calls it a sideshow. Rice and Lake are senior foreign policy advisors to Obama. Now look at Clinton's team, which will undoubtedly be lead by Richard Holbrooke, someone who has stopped genocide. There's no question about who will have a smarter and more effective foreign policy.
Someone is not ready, and it's Susan Rice. Not ready to hold a senior post in the State dept. or NSC. Between her and Tony Lake, Obama has chosen the very worst from the Clinton administration to advise him.
And keep in mind that Obama inherited the core of Daschle's staff. They completely capitulated in the Senate, and if Obama wins, they'll be running the show in the West Wing. Not something to look forward to....
Sorry, "nastily." Adverb. Close, though.
"...it offered a naked preview of how nastily the Clintons will fight, whatever the collateral damage to the Democratic Party, in the endgame to come."
He just lost his mind. And his credibility. The Hallmark thing was clearly an attempt to fire up her strongest supporters--middle-aged women. Somehow Rich thinks it was a nasty, racist ploy? Methinks the shark has been jumped...
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I hope you're right, but that's not the remotely the speech I saw. Luckily, McCain is as wooden as Pinnochio when it comes to giving a good speech...
Let me start off by saying I'm a die-hard Democrat who, while supporting Hillary during the primaries, will be happily pulling the lever for Obama on Nov. 4th. Obama is a phenomenally gifted orator who has delivered big time in the past, but this speech was so lame. On such a historic night, he waited until the last moment to cite its historic nature. I watched with several rabid supporters and half of them were falling asleep during this speech. It was just an off night, perhaps, and maybe the expectations and the pressure were too high, but I am so underwhelmed, and reading the comments here I feel like I saw a completely different speech. Schweitzer, Hill and Bill rocked it, but Obama, and so many others were so disappointing. I'm feeling discouraged by our prospects now, sensing the old snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victor y demon around the corner. Clearly it's just me (and the Dems I watched with), and I HOPE it's just me, but wow, I think that speech sucked and I sure hope he gets back on his A-game in the coming weeks. OK, venting over, sorry to crap on the celebration.
I think it's no longer a crap job. Gore and Cheney have changed it...
Boring. Boringboringboring.
"Most" is the operative word, and in an electorate this divided, as we all know too well, every vote counts. And they won't be working their asses off having bake sales or making calls, and they won't be writing checks. No other potential VP candidate has a bloc like she she does. You can cut off your nose to spite your face, but it ain't going to help you win. Luckily, the decision will be left up to his campaign, and not his vitriolic supporters, who btw, have never seemed to embody the new politics their candidate is always talking about.
Obviously, she brings 16+ million (and growing) enthusiastic supporters with her...
Obama's first job, once he formally secures the nomination, will be to unify the party and bring back into the fold the 16+ million Clinton voters who, despite the protestation of many of Obama's voters, are indeed incredibly passionate about their candidate. The way to do this is to offer her the VP slot, just like JFK did with LBJ and Reagan with Bush I. Personally, as someone who thought Hillary would make the best president of my lifetime, I'd rather see her as majority leader than VP. But in order to heal the wounds, he's got to make the offer, much as the Obama believers would hate it. And the above arguments for the others mentioned don't take into account the numbers of rabid supporters that she has, as well as the complementary demographics and skills they'd have on a combined ticket. I would have preferred it with her at the top, but that's politics. It's in the best interest of all involved to heal this breach. I have no doubt Hillary will be extraordinarily graceful in defeat if shown the respect she deserves. What I'm less confident of is Obama's supporters recognizing that she exits this race with a powerful bloc, will wield it to have her say in the platform and she (and her millions of supporters) need to be welcomed into the GE campaign
I think Franken's funny (at least sometimes) and clearly he's intelligent, but really, is he the best we can do? A celebrity? What has he ever run before? What experience does he have that is remotely relative and that would prepare him for the role of US Senator? Even Sonny Bono had the sense to run for Congress first. Ugh.
Actually, A Problem From Hell indicts two people from the Cllinton administration above all-Susan Rice and Tony Lake. The former asks a meeting convened in the midst of the Rwandan genocide what it will mean for the congressional midterm elections and the latter calls it a sideshow. Rice and Lake are senior foreign policy advisors to Obama. Now look at Clinton's team, which will undoubtedly be lead by Richard Holbrooke, someone who has stopped genocide. There's no question about who will have a smarter and more effective foreign policy.
Someone is not ready, and it's Susan Rice. Not ready to hold a senior post in the State dept. or NSC. Between her and Tony Lake, Obama has chosen the very worst from the Clinton administration to advise him.
Did you vote for Kerry in 2004?
And keep in mind that Obama inherited the core of Daschle's staff. They completely capitulated in the Senate, and if Obama wins, they'll be running the show in the West Wing. Not something to look forward to....
Because she'd be a far better president than he would. Duh?
"...it offered a naked preview of how nastily the Clintons will fight, whatever the collateral damage to the Democratic Party, in the endgame to come."
He just lost his mind. And his credibility. The Hallmark thing was clearly an attempt to fire up her strongest supporters--middle-aged women. Somehow Rich thinks it was a nasty, racist ploy? Methinks the shark has been jumped...