Pass the Senate bill ASAP and shift to anything else. I'm not sure the negative taste (rightly or wrongly) from healthcare goes away by either waiting til the lame duck session or having no bill.
It's time to stop digging. The bill won't survive another trip to the Senate and "back burnering" is a1994 strategy.
that was due to Dems rolling over. The filibuster did save SS from privatization though. If it would have gone through, that would have been the last pece of legislation passed.
Social security privatization, extreme SC justices and some form of religious legislation under the next Republican administration. Surely we want 50 votes to be able to pass all of that stuff. /sarcasm
Congressional negotiating strategy would have produced a different result. Bonus points if you could tell me how Joe could be leveraged when he IGNORED A PRIMARY and how Conservadems would have voted for a healthcare bill that could have been called (regardless of its merits) "Hillarycare II"
"Liberal Fascism" because I want to understand the "liberals/progressives=fascists" meme. The major Goldberg fail concerns subjects that he does not address. How can you discuss Hitler and not the Weimar Republic in detail? How can you discuss the American Progressive movement without discussing temperance and William Jennings Bryan which have strong elements of both left and right in them?
The study of populism makes more sense and is more useful while Goldberg is just trying to be able to bring the moral disapproval of fascism down on political opponents.
I think Kyl is probably the best they could wrangle for 2012 in terms of the various factions.
They'll probably go teabagger. But the establishment is going to be equally split between Mitt and Pawlenty. Sarah is going to get enough establishment + crazy support to be the early frontrunner.
Chee-nee: That Fox News statement by his daughter seems like a major trial balloon.
Kyl: He's not either crazy or moderate (the two types of R's liked for Governor) enough to run for Governor. He's going to be the junior senator from AZ until 2018. He may be kind of a dull guy given the current state of the Republican party but he splits the difference between the sane wing and the crazy wing of the party.
Judd Gregg: He turned down commerce so he has some Obama hater street cred. Republicans need to nominate a Northeasterner if they want to mirror the DLC "nominate a Southerner" strategy.
lived in Independence, KS. Just about when they left in the mid-90's, Cessna was adding jobs. However, they probably shed a bunch of farm jobs and business jobs.
I've never quite understood why American conservatives behave like tobacco executives when it comes to every social problem in the country.
The Republican party represents a more plutocratic conservatism like Latin America or Australia. Why can't we have a Swiss brand conservatism where problems are actually dealt with in a manner that is relatively small government compared with other European nations? That party (the Swiss-like one) might actually be worth voting for.
I have a hypothesis that this quote (or something similar) extends back to the Simpsons episode "Lisa the Vegetarian" (1995) but I've been unable to verify online.
Palin gets a twofer by showing a tad of hipness and by driving ethical vegetarians up a wall thus marginalizing them more and allowing Dems/progressives/whoever to be lumped in with them. The way to respond to this is "Ha, ha, funny joke" and then if she says "I'm serious" you point out the long and distinguished pedigree of this turn of phrase.
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Pass the Senate bill ASAP and shift to anything else. I'm not sure the negative taste (rightly or wrongly) from healthcare goes away by either waiting til the lame duck session or having no bill.
It's time to stop digging. The bill won't survive another trip to the Senate and "back burnering" is a1994 strategy.
that was due to Dems rolling over. The filibuster did save SS from privatization though. If it would have gone through, that would have been the last pece of legislation passed.
Social security privatization, extreme SC justices and some form of religious legislation under the next Republican administration. Surely we want 50 votes to be able to pass all of that stuff. /sarcasm
Congressional negotiating strategy would have produced a different result. Bonus points if you could tell me how Joe could be leveraged when he IGNORED A PRIMARY and how Conservadems would have voted for a healthcare bill that could have been called (regardless of its merits) "Hillarycare II"
"Liberal Fascism" because I want to understand the "liberals/progressives=fascists" meme. The major Goldberg fail concerns subjects that he does not address. How can you discuss Hitler and not the Weimar Republic in detail? How can you discuss the American Progressive movement without discussing temperance and William Jennings Bryan which have strong elements of both left and right in them?
The study of populism makes more sense and is more useful while Goldberg is just trying to be able to bring the moral disapproval of fascism down on political opponents.
'nows'='knows'
Seriously?
At least Gore's retraction was the night of the election.
My guess is that he has no leg to stand on seeing how Owens is ALREADY SWORN IN.
Everyone nows it's those ACORNers and those Canadians crossing the border to impose their healthcare on us. What a clown.
he's not famous for his new show except among the converted.
What's worse is that passing an ineffective bill, means
No cover for conservadems and nothing that hurts the argument for doing something on greenhouse gasses.
at 14:59 yet? Hannity's 15 minutes was up a couple years ago. "Hannity's America" doesn't draw nearly as much heat as "Hannity and Colmes".
I think Kyl is probably the best they could wrangle for 2012 in terms of the various factions.
They'll probably go teabagger. But the establishment is going to be equally split between Mitt and Pawlenty. Sarah is going to get enough establishment + crazy support to be the early frontrunner.
Here's a few that just might take the 2012 leap:
Chee-nee: That Fox News statement by his daughter seems like a major trial balloon.
Kyl: He's not either crazy or moderate (the two types of R's liked for Governor) enough to run for Governor. He's going to be the junior senator from AZ until 2018. He may be kind of a dull guy given the current state of the Republican party but he splits the difference between the sane wing and the crazy wing of the party.
Judd Gregg: He turned down commerce so he has some Obama hater street cred. Republicans need to nominate a Northeasterner if they want to mirror the DLC "nominate a Southerner" strategy.
lived in Independence, KS. Just about when they left in the mid-90's, Cessna was adding jobs. However, they probably shed a bunch of farm jobs and business jobs.
I've never quite understood why American conservatives behave like tobacco executives when it comes to every social problem in the country.
The Republican party represents a more plutocratic conservatism like Latin America or Australia. Why can't we have a Swiss brand conservatism where problems are actually dealt with in a manner that is relatively small government compared with other European nations? That party (the Swiss-like one) might actually be worth voting for.
a long running quote/internet meme:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Cleese
http://slate.com/id/2189676/
http://www.heatworld.com/forum/tm.aspx?m =227751&mpage=3𸑇
Here is PETA rising to the bait:
http://blog.peta2.com/2009/07/vote_for_y our_favorite_dumb_co_22.html
Here is the quote several years before it was attributed to Cleese, unless Fark has some dating notation I'm not aware of:
http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLi nk=79196
Here is an academic study on what makes this quote funny:
http://afflatus.ucd.ie/papers/spr05.pdf
I have a hypothesis that this quote (or something similar) extends back to the Simpsons episode "Lisa the Vegetarian" (1995) but I've been unable to verify online.
Palin gets a twofer by showing a tad of hipness and by driving ethical vegetarians up a wall thus marginalizing them more and allowing Dems/progressives/whoever to be lumped in with them. The way to respond to this is "Ha, ha, funny joke" and then if she says "I'm serious" you point out the long and distinguished pedigree of this turn of phrase.