Senator Obama: Please, Sir

by ATLJay, Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 07:24:51 PM EDT

"She's running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the Second Amendment, she's talking like she's Annie Oakley!

The more and more I hear this man. The more and more he comes across as demeaning to women and being sexist. She... and call it fair or unfair spoke to his comment and "his perception of the middle class".

He comes back with a sexist remark. She never used his race in making her case, yet he chose to poke fun by using gender. WOW!

Yeah poke fun at her comments if you like to, have witty comebacks. But come on- no need to always be sexist in your remarks. Why Anne Oakley?

Anne Oakley and god bless her soul, still was an Uneducated woman who could not read or write and had a circus act as a good shooter. That's who he is saying Hillary is...

Would it then be okay to compare Obama to a sterotype black gangsta rapper? I mean come on...

Let alone the fact that 99% of the country does not know who Anne Oakley is. It again shows you talk like Dennis miller using language that mainstream voter has no clue about. You have to learn how to speak the language of the people and get off this pseudo professor talk. Might as well cite us example of molecular weather patterns when you explain 'why' you are running for president or when you speak to your climate change policies...

Get off that pseudo talk and the using of sexist remarks ...Please Sir.

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Re: Senator Obama: Please, Sir

Just how is the comment sexist?

by mefck 2008-04-13 07:26PM | 0 recs

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Re: Senator Obama: Please, Sir

Sounds like you are the sexist one sir.

by mefck 2008-04-13 07:38PM | 0 recs

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you got serious

issues

by kindthoughts 2008-04-13 07:42PM | 0 recs

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Re: Senator Obama: Please, Sir

Woa...that's a pretty skewed (some would even say "elitist") take on Annie Oakley.

by davisb 2008-04-13 07:42PM | 0 recs

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Re: Senator Obama: Please, Sir

When did Obama claim he was a good rapper?

And Annie Oakley isn't some "uneducated...redneck," she was a pioneering sportswoman. A well revered one at that.

Also, Kanye West is not a "thug wannbe gansta" rapper...

by davisb 2008-04-13 07:51PM | 0 recs

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Where are you getting this idea that Annie Oakley is some sort of backwards/redneck/idiot with a bad legacy/reputation?

She's a woman who was able to rise to the top of a male-dominated field, despite enormous odds, etc. etc. etc. Judy Garland was originally cast as her in the movie!

by davisb 2008-04-13 07:58PM | 0 recs

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Ok, first of all the woman was born about 150 years ago, about 60 years before women even had the right to vote, so I'm not exactly going to fault her for her lack of formal education.

Second of all, Barack is not "comparing Hillary to Annie Oakley," he's actually pretty explicitly saying Hillay is not like Annie Oakley, just pretending to be. Comparing someone to Annie Oakley is an absolute compliment, as she was a pioneering sportswoman of her time.

We're talking about late 19th century entertainment and celebrity here, so all this talk about her being some sort of "circus act" kind of misses the point of who she was and what she accomplished; she wasn't some sort of bearded-lady freakshow, she was a sportswoman! A famous and accomplished sharpshooter, who was well revered in her time.

by davisb 2008-04-13 08:07PM | 0 recs

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Here's some good reading on Annie Oakley, a transcript of a PBS documentary on this amazing woman's life:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/oakley/film more/pt.html

A quote:

"She was one of the greatest sharpshooters of all time, thrilling crowds across America and Europe, feted by princes and presidents -- the first American woman ever to become a superstar.

Yet Oakley's beginnings were more than humble; her childhood horrific. But she had built a career, doing what she loved ... and excelling in a man's world.

And when all she had worked for nearly came crashing down, she waged the most intense battle of her life, determined never to fall back into the crippling poverty she had known, determined to save her reputation..."

by davisb 2008-04-13 08:18PM | 0 recs

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Annie Oakley was not a buffoon

I read Annie Oakley's biography to my daughter. Besides being a good story, it also provided an excellent woman role model for her.

In Annie's time and place, just about everybody was "uneducated" (by our standards) and just about any MAN was "gun-toting." Annie just happened to be an uneducated gun-toting WOMAN who had a very successful career doing what was then considered a man's job.

Comparing any woman to Annie Oakley is not an insult. It's not sexist either, given that Oakley was renowned for her shooting ability, perhaps the best shot of her time regardless of gender. Would you have preferred if she were compared with Buffalo Bill? He was the star of the "circus" you mentioned and not nearly as good a shot as Annie.

by professor 2008-04-13 10:55PM | 0 recs

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u have

terribly elitist views of the average persons intelligence.

by highgrade 2008-04-13 07:30PM | 0 recs

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Predictable.

The people in the audience got a great laugh, it seems they knew Annie Oakley. Annie was a great advocate for women in her time. Hillary should be proud of any comparison even if it's hilarious.

by Hope08 2008-04-13 07:32PM | 0 recs

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Wow, a woman breaks into a male dominated sport and you call her a circus act! That's sexist. She spent her life supporting women's rights and cause and gave much of her $$ to charity.

by Hope08 2008-04-13 07:56PM | 0 recs

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It Was the "Running Around" That Got Me

Do I detect a note of hysteria in Mr. Obama's words?

by creeper1014 2008-04-13 07:32PM | 0 recs

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Re: It Was the "Running Around"

Yup. It was pretty hysterical, the audience loved it. We'll enjoy it all the way to the nomination.

by ragekage 2008-04-13 07:36PM | 0 recs

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I know who she was, but then I've been characterized as a latte sipping liberal elitist .

by Obama Independent 2008-04-13 07:35PM | 0 recs

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I bet you live in an insignificant state too ;)

by kindthoughts 2008-04-13 07:54PM | 0 recs

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I'm still significant!

But I hope to become insignificant come May 20th. Very, very insignificant.

by Obama Independent 2008-04-13 08:01PM | 0 recs

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here is hoping... ;)

by kindthoughts 2008-04-14 01:18AM | 0 recs

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I'm a little bit scared of the idea that 99% of the country has no idea who Annie Oakley is. That's basic cultural literacy, to me.

As for denigrating to women, and sexist... um... how? Exactly?

Now, had he compared her to, say, Bill Hickock, then maybe you'd have a point there. It's not sexist to compare her to another woman, or am I missing something?

Later on you make the point that Annie Oakley was an uneducated circus performer. True. She was also an expert markswoman. Do you really believe that Obama was referencing Annie Oakley's education level (something I'm comfortable with believing that 99% of the country knows little of) or her abilities with firearms (which I suspect at least half the country can recognize)? Despite the context clearly relating to firearm proficiency?

In that case, when Clinton's campaign compared Obama to Ken Starr, did you read that as them declaring him to be a Republican special prosecutor?

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-04-13 08:02PM | 0 recs

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How in the world was this sexist? Is this a snark post?

by Bobby Obama 2008-04-13 08:08PM | 0 recs

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I'd remove this diary, because it doesn't flatter the diarist at all. Most Americans over the age of 21 know who Annie Oakley was.

by shalca 2008-04-13 08:27PM | 0 recs

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Re: Senator Obama: Please, Sir

My 11 year old knows who she is.

by fogiv 2008-04-13 09:41PM | 0 recs