Just Say No to PUMA, Yes to Hillary & Barack!

(Proudly cross-posted at Clintonistas for Obama and Democratic PartyBuilder)

OK, OK, so I've been "HOUNDing" on this for a while now. Even though Hillary Clinton herself has been calling on all Democrats to unite in support for Barack Obama, we've seen these few "PUMAs" troll around the internets. They're dishonoring Hillary, trashing barack, and doing the right wing's work in mocking Democrats.

So what can we now do to get out the real progressive message that Hillary wants us to listen to? Follow me after the flip to find out...

So what can we do? Well, all of us blogging here is a start! We're getting out the real message of Democrats working together for victory. We're fighting the smears, and we're unspinning theright-wingspin.

We're making a good start, but we can still do more. We can congregate and band together to strategize. We can spread the word about the reality of John McBush. We can tell the real truth about Barack Obama and why Hillary endorsed him.

But above all else, we can show some compassion to our pro-Hillary friends who are still hurting from the primaries. I really think PA Gov. Ed Rendell hit just the right note last week, and I think we'd be wise to follow his lead. Listen to our pro-Hillary friends, share with them your repressed frustration from the primaries... Just let it all out finally! And then, talk with them about why Hillary supports Barack and why we must elect a Democratic President and Democratic Congress to ensure the vision that Barack and Hillary both share becomes reality.

Oh yes, and let's not forget to contribute! Obama needs all the help we can give him now to ensure he has the resources necessary for victory. Oh, and don't forget to give to Hillary and to the party as well!

And finally, let's all stand together to fight the far right and take our country back! :-)

Tags: Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Democrats, Dirty Tricks, Election 2008, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Supporters, John McCain, Party Unity, presidential election, progressive values, progressives, PUMA, Republicans (all tags)

Comments

31 Comments

Tips? Flames? Suggestions?

Let 'er rip! :-)

by atdleft 2008-06-30 05:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Tips? Flames? Suggestions?

PUMA will only be as great as you allow it to be _ by giving them a platform. all though in all fairness to the diarist _ FOX is not only giving them a national platform but might as well add it to their promo spots.

but then again its Neil cuvato ( however u spell his name) who watches his program anyways ...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 06:03PM | 0 recs
Right on!

I'm so sick of PUMA, I could puke.

by sricki 2008-06-30 05:43PM | 0 recs
Thanks, sricki!

I am as well...

http://www.democrats.org/page/group/Hill aryClintonDemocratsforBarackObama

Which is why I've started our own "rebel movement"! ;-)

by atdleft 2008-06-30 05:47PM | 0 recs
Awaiting your approval, atd. n/t

by sricki 2008-06-30 05:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks, sricki!

That website is blocked in China, so I can't register just yet.  Will do so ASAP.

by psychodrew 2008-06-30 09:43PM | 0 recs
Sure...highly agreed...Diary rec'ed...

I understand the extensive negative roll of the PUMA and possible Republican troll infiltration. And we need to either win them over or steer clear.
But do you think Anybody But Clinton (ABC) or We hate Clinton (WHC) crowd are doing the same thing? There seems to be a crowd who intentionally would go on insulting the Clintons or progressive organizations like NOW or Emily's List just to incite divisiveness amongst the Democrats. I'm beginning to think that these are Republican trolls too.

I say ABC meets PUMA..they are the two sides of the same coin.

by louisprandtl 2008-06-30 06:10PM | 0 recs
Oh yes, I totally agree!

"ABC" and "PUMA" ARE two sides of the same coin. "ABC" uses ugly right-wing smears against Hillary, and "PUMA" uses ugly right-wing smears against Barack. I wouldn't be surprised if the same Rethuglican operatives were behind both groups.

by atdleft 2008-06-30 06:37PM | 0 recs
No credit, atdleft. You were a regular ...

... in our community for months, and now you "wouldn't be surprised if the same Rethuglican operatives were behind both groups".

If anyone here was playing the mole, it weren't today's PUMAs.

by RonK Seattle 2008-06-30 08:13PM | 0 recs
A turncoat complaining

because someone didn't join him in his treasonous aid and comfort to John McCain.

by Geekesque 2008-07-01 05:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure...highly agreed...Diary rec'ed...

yup

Same folks

by wrb 2008-06-30 07:23PM | 0 recs
Harriet Christian

is she married?  I don't want my vision of an bitter cat lady to to be a false label.

by Brandon 2008-06-30 07:43PM | 0 recs
Harriet...

Is that you? (/snark)

OK, I know you're really not Harriet. But still, I'm not so sure that this kind of mocking really helps our cause of Democratic Unity. Just watch out, and don't give the "PUMAs" material that they'll then use against us as they trash us as "bullies".

by atdleft 2008-06-30 07:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Harriet...

How many "PUMAs" do you think there are?  How many do you expect to get to vote for Obama?  

by Blue Neponset 2008-07-01 06:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA,

I think that by casting PUMA into the role of The Enemy you're giving them too much attention and far too much importance.

MyDD would be a much nice place if everyone just ignore the PUMAs. What do you expect to do about them anyway, except provide free publicity?

Put your energy into undermining McCain where it might do some good. The PUMAs aren't going to change. Just let it go.

by SuGeAtARC 2008-06-30 09:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say NO NO NO to PUMA,

Absolutely. These folks here mostly left Taylor Marsh and other sites when they began to apply disinfectant. They are mostly repub women for HRC who never intended to vote for Obama. They are bigots and don't deserve engaging. These voters are best off going over to McCain's sites and leaving us alone.
Or back to NQ river daughter, bitter politicz, wherever ...

thread hijak

by Mae Scott 2008-07-01 05:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA,

Exactly right.  The diarist seems to view the PUMA's as rational actors.  They aren't.  They won't respond to rational arguments and it isn't worth the time or effort to try and convince them to support Obama.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-07-01 06:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA,

Having spent some time reading their blogs I'm a still puzzled as to who the are  clearly

1) Many are republicans trying to capture Hillary voters. Some are blatent-- steering people to Fox & Rush,for example (what nowc "feminazis for Rush?")

2) Some are deeply and somewhat weirdly infatuated with Hillary.

3) Some are openly racist

4) Some actually bought the Hil campaign's funny math and disenfranchisement arguments and think the nomination.

5) Some care only about getting a woman president (yet hate women who oppose Hil)

However None of them seem to hold or at least care about progressive values.  They just never mention the war, habeas, civil liberties, torture etc.

So I don't think they are a big loss to the party. They may have been democrats by habit but they've  found  they fit better with the republicans

by wrb 2008-07-01 07:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say Yes to PUMA

So, Obama changes his positions on FISA, public financing and moves to the center.  It seems to me that his primary campaign was a FRAUD.  And he claimed to be about new politics.  The hypocrisy, to me, is far beyond any politician I have ever known.

Now, in the meeting with Clinton fundraisers last Thursday he was unable to confirm that there would be a roll call vote at the convention.  That's outrageous!

I cannot in good conscience vote for someone so disingenuous and at the head of a bizarrely authoritarian campaign.

PUMA!! PUMA!! PUMA!! PUMA!! PUMA!! PUMA!!

P.S.  I have voted for one republican in over twenty years of voting...it was some county-level position years ago.  I am not a republican...but, like millions of other Americans, I do have a cat! : )

by FireLight 2008-06-30 10:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say Yes to PUMA

1 cat?

by Brandon 2008-06-30 10:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say Yes to PUMA
If you had bothered to look at Obama's voting record in the US and Illinois Senates, you would have seen that Obama has always been a centrist and made his reputation by compromising with Republicans.
When you voted for Bill Clinton, and he ran to the center in the GE, did you get upset and vote for the Republican?
by skohayes 2008-07-01 03:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say Yes to PUMA

I don't think this deserves a 0 by any means. Disagreement does not mean 0.

by bowiegeek 2008-07-06 01:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say Yes to Puma!
Millions of cats. By the way I am not buying the unity thing! The Democratic Party is broken. I refuse to support the farcical Democratic Party. We will overcome the and repair the broken Democratic Party from with.....the millions of us!
PUMA '08
JustSayNoDeal!
by navyvet48 2008-06-30 10:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say Yes to Puma!

I don't think it's right to be zeroed for stating the almost obvious.

by bowiegeek 2008-07-06 01:57AM | 0 recs
by engels 2008-07-01 04:06AM | 0 recs
Re: YES to PUMA, Yes to Hillary

Hey Dummy?

There are 3 other polls that have Obama ahead.

by Lance Bryce 2008-07-01 04:04PM | 0 recs
Yay holding-on sweeties!

Love you, Engels!

;D

by spunkmeyer 2008-07-01 10:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA,

As always an enthusiastic and spot on diary.

by linfar 2008-07-01 06:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA

Don't sweat it. You have to let them come to in on their own. Some will. some won't. There will always people who will vote personality over the Democratic agenda. To me, very short-sighted but still their choice. Again, they need to come to it on their own...

by NY Writer 2008-07-01 07:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA

I like you, and I admire your optimism. But I'm personally not as convinced as you are that Obama represents my values. I know it's late for me to post here, but I just wanted to give you a sense of where I am as a not-PUMA but very skeptical Hillary supporter...

by bowiegeek 2008-07-06 02:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Just Say No to PUMA, Yes to Hillary &

In the spirit of democracy and equality - I would like to understand why no Democratic Party Leaders condemned the sexism and biased treatment that so affected Sen.Clinton's campaign. If the situation had been reversed - and Sen. Obama was discriminated against in the media during the primaries...if the media joked about instances of people holding signs at Obama's rallies that said  "SHINE MY SHOES" instead of signs at Clinton's rallies saying "IRON MY SHIRT".....if the democratic party leaders remained silent during this discrimination.....if the leaders tried to prematurely push the first African-American candidate out of the race when he was only slightly behind.. would anyone be surprised if groups formed left and right to talk about an issue bigger than party affiliation -- equality?

by Democracy101 2008-07-13 03:56PM | 0 recs

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