SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Just when you thought things couldn't get worse, it does.  

For the longest time, SNL was her champion - now they've had it.  

They're really, ahem, ahem,... ANGRY with Hillary.  

This is a just a willllllld guess, but I think it's cuz of something she said (D'Oh!!).  

Caution:  your ribs will hurt from the laughter.

► When you're lost Tina Fey, you're done.  Is there anyone left?

Hills can kiss her Vice Presidential ambitions goodbye.

Tags: Hillary Clinton, Recommended, SNL (all tags)



Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!


by bosdcla14 2008-05-11 03:43AM | 0 recs
Happy Mother's Day Hillary!

by cosbo 2008-05-11 09:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Happy Mother's Day Hillary!

and a month ago no doubt you hated it. grow up

by zerosumgame 2008-05-11 10:11AM | 0 recs
You guys are so Dumb, you missed the Point!

SNL was making fun of the smear campaign in the blogs and on cable news.

If you're the "college educated elite, god help us.

by internetstar 2008-05-11 10:24AM | 0 recs
Re: You guys are so Dumb, you missed the Point!

You mean when they had Hillary say the race was neck-and-neck?

by Agent77 2008-05-11 10:40AM | 0 recs
Re: You guys are so Dumb, you missed the Point!

Up is down!
Freedom is slavery!
War is peace!

The power of cognitive dissonance has proven to be very strong once again.

When SNL makes fun of Hillary, they are making fun of Hillary.  

by politicsmatters 2008-05-11 03:19PM | 0 recs
Re: You guys are so Dumb, you missed the Point!

lol you took the words right off my keyboard!  This is called SATIRE people! sheesh lol

by Cassyma 2008-05-11 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: You guys are so Dumb, you missed the Point!

That's a wee bit silly.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-11 04:34PM | 0 recs
I take it you don't care for my sarcasm?

Hey...Maybe I should try to be productive...let's see if I can improve upon the WWTBQ or for some WWTSBQ acronym...hmmm


Which flows better do you think?

Why won't the racist bitch quit?


Why won't the racist stupid bitch quit?

heck maybe they could even incorporate the word white somewhere...

Why won't the racist white bitch quit?

Now THAT really flows!

I love new politics. Don't you?

by cosbo 2008-05-11 11:04AM | 0 recs
Re: I take it you don't care for my sarcasm?

Cosbo, that's pathetic.  It's really sad to think you people aren't interested in Hillary's supporters if ever Obama gets the nomination.  I guess you think bullying is the only way to win.

by Cassyma 2008-05-11 03:36PM | 0 recs
Re: I take it you don't care for my sarcasm?

CassyMa - Cosbo IS a Hillary supporter.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: I take it you don't care for my sarcasm?

.. and was evidently trying out that SATIRE that you were educating the rest of us about.

How's that working for you?

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 04:40PM | 0 recs
Wrong actually...

I'm an Edwards supporter watching the current chaos with borderline disgust/amusement, shocked that the party of the elite big tent couldn't see this clusterfuck coming.

by cosbo 2008-05-11 05:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Wrong actually...

Your posting history doesn't reflect your claimed sideline status. And I suspect that earlier post of yours was met with disgust rather than amusement.

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you explain your own motivations for that troll masquerade.  

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-14 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: I take it you don't care for my sarcasm?

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 04:35PM | 0 recs
Re: I take it you don't care for my sarcasm?

I don't get it.  Who called Clinton a "bitch" in that skit?

Amy Poehler?  Tina Fey?  Why are they sexist for writing this skit?  Self-hatred, is it?

Hillary can't use baseless accusations of sexism as a get-out-of-jail free card.  Her recent behavior would be generating the same kind of response if it came from a man.  Or do you forget how crazy Bill used to drive his political opponents?  

The notion that all opposition to HRC comes from sexists may be comforting, but it's not grounded in reality.

by TL 2008-05-11 05:45PM | 0 recs
And they were so in the tank for her

just a few short weeks ago!

by Walt Starr 2008-05-11 03:49AM | 0 recs
That's a great big Fred Willard style

"Wha Happened?" right there, folks.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-05-11 06:17AM | 0 recs
Now they can REALLY skewer Obama

they've sufficiently skewered Hillary, innoculating themselves against accusations of bias to one candidate over another.

by catfish1 2008-05-11 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Now they can REALLY skewer Obama

The season ends next week.

by Walt Starr 2008-05-11 08:02AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

What does Tina Fey have to do with last night's sketch?

In any case, it was a lame skit -- just reaching out to the targeted demographic of young, sophomoric college students and recent grads.

by Inky 2008-05-11 03:50AM | 0 recs
She's still writing for SNL n/t

by Walt Starr 2008-05-11 03:53AM | 0 recs
And she's HAWT !!

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 04:51AM | 0 recs
Re: And she's HAWT !!



by Walt Starr 2008-05-11 05:07AM | 0 recs
Re: She's still writing for SNL n/t

But she didn't write that skit. I thought that Obama supporters were opposed to guilt by association.

In any case, whoever did write that skit did Obama no favors in the end. Portraying the candidates who run against Obama and their supporters as racists will only alienate voters against him in the GE.

by Inky 2008-05-11 05:48AM | 0 recs
Re: She's still writing for SNL n/t

I know that Tina Fey did not write that skit because I know that Tina Fey is still a Hilary supporter. Unless you have information to prove that she had a last-minute conversion in the past 48 hours and wrote that lame skit to celebrate it, you are the one who doesn't know what you are talking about.

by Inky 2008-05-11 06:10AM | 0 recs
A comedian can flip

even easier than a superdelegate :^)

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-05-11 06:19AM | 0 recs
Re: She's still writing for SNL n/t

recent examples like McGovern?  i mean she worked on his campaign, why would he turn if it was not truly hopeless.  Plus the dog whistle by Diane F.stein

by gnosis 2008-05-11 07:35AM | 0 recs
Re: She's still writing for SNL n/t

Maybe she's a Democrat first and Hillary supporter second and maybe she doesn't like Hillary's argument that Democrats are too racist to vote for the black guy.

by RLMcCauley 2008-05-11 07:42AM | 0 recs
Re: She's still writing for SNL n/t

You have your arguments reversed. It's Obama who believes the white are too racist to vote for the black guy -- so much so that he doesn't campaign in certain states.

If Obama ran as an genuine economic populist, he could garner the white work-class vote. But he's not, so he can't. Don't throw your racist BS at me.

by Inky 2008-05-12 05:06AM | 0 recs
Typically la la land netrootster

If Tina Fey wrote that, she must of jumped ship!

Does it not occur to you that she is a professional comedy writer and they have to poke fun at various candidates as part of their jobs?  Would it surprise you to learn that lawyers sometimes represent clients they dislike and disagree with?

by lombard 2008-05-11 10:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Typically la la land netrootster

Do any of you have any evidence that Tina Fey wrote the skit? I thought not. From what I understand she has pretty much retired from writing for SNL, althouh she does so occasionally, as when she made her guest appearance on the show.

Talk about half-witted replies.

by Inky 2008-05-12 05:02AM | 0 recs
Re: She's still writing for SNL n/t

Neither you nor any of the commenters who have recc'ed your comment know what you are talking about. First off, Tina is essentially retired from writing for SNL (although she wrote her own "bitch is the new black" skit and some others for the show she hosted). Second, she's too good a writer to have penned the lame skit that you are trying to attribute to her. Third, if she had come out against Hillary, there would have been news about it, but she hasn't and there isn't. None of you have an iota of evidence to back up the bogus assertions made in this diary.

I didn't suggest that I know what she believes, although I know some of her beliefs because she does interviews. I'm merely asserting, once again, that she did not write the skit, and that if she had, it would be publicy known by now.

by Inky 2008-05-12 09:43AM | 0 recs
I was waiting for the Howard Wolfson moment

...the moment a Wolfson clone would drop in and trash SNL and declare them "irrelevant"

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 03:56AM | 0 recs
So Hillary supporters were for SNL

before you were against SNL.

But I guess that should be expected when the themes and metrics for measuring this race change from day to day among the Clintons and their people.

by John Campanelli 2008-05-11 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

So... college students and recent grads "don't count"?  Just like black voters and half the states in the union?  

by schroeder 2008-05-11 10:35AM | 0 recs
Most college students and recent grads

have better things to do than stay in and watch TV on saturday night.  SNL's demographics have always been a much broader base.  This is an american institution, not Jackass

by semiquaver 2008-05-11 02:54PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

lol I wouldn't really call em her champion for the longest time, they were basically favorable to her in 2 skits and then it died.

remember the Paeterus hearing when they were all nice to Obama since he will be the next president :-P

by TruthMatters 2008-05-11 03:54AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

don't see this as clobbering since it's so outrageously over the top. sore loser - that plays into the MSM meme, although if you listen to her stump speeches it's clear she's far more aggressive in bein nice to Obama and pledging to support him in the GE. Obama's similar appeals have always fallen flat and reinforced his duplicitous personality to me. just saying. sort of like his 'you're nice - enough' comment.

keep harping on the 'my supporters are racist' bit, and the Obama crowd can bet their assess that BO will lose in November. guilt-tripping 50% of the DEM electorate that voted for HRC is NOT going to get them to pull your lever, never.

Oh, don't bother saying 'oh but it's not BO that's saying that - it's the MSM'. Well true but if BO wants to turn it around maybe he should start doing some work to change that particularly slanderous meme. Waiting till that plays out enough for him to win the Nom is going to be toooooo late.

by swissffun 2008-05-11 04:20AM | 0 recs
you're right - it's really a victory for Hill

I swear you guys are funny.

Losing Iowa was really a victory!

Lending herself $11,400,000 was really a victory!

Losing 12 states in a row was really a victory!

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 04:36AM | 0 recs
im waiting for weekend update to do the really

skit and focus it on Hillary....

You actually won the states that matter?

Really?  Really? I guess when you say that you won the states that matter, you do remember that the last 2 elections that Kerry and Gore won the states that matter right?  Really?  Really?

You signed a pledge not to participate in Michigan and the rest of the front runners took their names off the ballot there, but you say you "won" that state with no competition so those votes should count for you?  Really ?  Really?

You say hardworking americans then amend that to say White Americans... so that means the rest of us are lazy but your the stronger candidate for november....  really??

by gnosis 2008-05-11 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: im waiting for weekend update to do the really

You're onto something here: a recurring skit where Timmeh or Chris Matthews or someone else interviews a politician.  They ask their tough questions and get completely straight answers.

by deminva 2008-05-11 10:11AM | 0 recs
Calm down and take a pill fanatic

Why don't you take up something like gardening instead of being on these sites?  The easily outraged should avoid politics.

by lombard 2008-05-11 10:40AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

It's a two way street...Hillary people cry sexism.  Don't play these games.

by gorebeatbush2 2008-05-11 04:37AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

There are varieties and shades of racism. It isn't a black and white argument, though that premise makes it easier to handwave one's way out of the accusation. I personally haven't heard anything that would prove that anyone here "was a racist",  but I have heard racism of subtle shades from enough campaign surrogates to justify the observation.

Further, I don't doubt that there are plenty of Hillary supporters in WV that support her for legitimate reasons. I also don't doubt that there are plenty that do so because they wouldn't vote for a black man. I don't deny anyone the right to such an opinion, but it IS a racist opinion not matter how it may be chosen to be spun.

No one that matters (in terms of being representative of a campaign) has ever claimed that all Hillary's supporters are racist. That is a straw man perpetuated by the many delightful diehard diaries on this site. By threatening to withhold your support in November based on this straw man, you only validate the SNL sore loser meme.

Finally, if rural voters want to vote Republican in November despite a downward spiraling economy, rising gas prices, non-existent healthcare, and sure incompetence abroad - they're only making their own beds. They are the ones that will fall through the cracks. Those much-despised latte-drinking white collar liberals will probably survive another GOP administration a lot better than they will. And if they do so because, as you allude, someone called them racist, it only adds to this delusion a slightly farcical touch.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 07:16AM | 0 recs
Well True--Ding ding a Winner!

Wow, you get the fact that Obama isn't saying it.

Now repeat after me, what came out of HRC's mouth?

a)  hard working white Americans
b)  I landed under sniper fire.

See the distinction of what's comes directly out of someone's mouth versus what doesn't?

by Regenman 2008-05-11 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Well True--Ding ding a Winner!

Don't give her that much credit.  It wasn't hard working, white Americans.  That would have been fine.  The she would just be talking about the hardworking Americans who are white.  It was "hard working Americans, white Americans."  That construction defines hard working Americans as white Americans.

by The Distillery 2008-05-11 10:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Well True--Ding ding a Winner!

yep. and Obama said 'typical white person' inferring we're all racist; Michelle said she was never proud of her country until this year; hmmmmm..... you want to start twisting words, I'd say your candidate's got a lot more sloppy shit than Hillary in terms of mouth control. Let's not even get started on his 58 US States....

by swissffun 2008-05-11 02:32PM | 0 recs
See how original I am


by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 04:33AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Why are we still arguing...the nomination has been settled.  Hillary put up a good fight.  She'd be the nominee if she voted against the war resolution or if she had not let Mark Penn run the campaign into the ground.  These were the two big flaws I saw in her, and they led me to look at other candidates.  I found a great one in Obama, and weighed him against my long love of Hillary. But I determined she has changed a lot from the Hillary I loved in the early 90s, mostly for the worse.  I still like her, even if some of her supporters drive me crazy with their Florida/Michigan bullshit.  Anyway, Hillary lost.  It's over.  Get over it!  

by gorebeatbush2 2008-05-11 04:35AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL clobbered Obama!

All we saw were diaries after diaries of "SNL TELLS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!  THE MEDIA XPOSED!!!!!!!"

by Bobby Obama 2008-05-11 04:40AM | 0 recs
its called comedy.

if it offends you, you might want to:

a- drink more alcohol

b- pull your head out of your ass

c- get new friends

d- all of the above

by citizendave 2008-05-11 04:41AM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

Sorry, but I don't find SNL calling me racist because I support Clinton funny. You have a warped sense of humor.

by soyousay 2008-05-11 04:50AM | 0 recs
maybe so,

but a sense of humor none the less.

by citizendave 2008-05-11 04:52AM | 0 recs
Re: maybe so,

You think racism accusations are funny?

by soyousay 2008-05-11 04:58AM | 0 recs
Listen to clip. the audience (NYC) was laughing.

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 05:00AM | 0 recs
i think a lot of things are funny

that would probably twist your knickers.

the old lady and the banana peel skit cracks me up every time.......

but enough about me, tell me about you.

by citizendave 2008-05-11 05:02AM | 0 recs
Re: i think a lot of things are funny

All I can say is; ignorance is bliss and you're extremely blissful.

by soyousay 2008-05-11 07:03AM | 0 recs
you are too smart for me

maybe you don't believe certain things are funny because you believe they are true???????????

could that be it?

by citizendave 2008-05-11 08:40AM | 0 recs
Re: maybe so,

It wasn't calling you racist.  It was saying that Hillary's "ZOMG White people!" arguments are ludicrous.  

by proseandpromise 2008-05-11 09:37AM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

actually what this skit is pointing out is how Hillary's statements the past week seem to be openly courting the racist vote. that does not equate "all her supporters are racist" and more than her asking for the votes of women implies that all her supporters are women.

the problem is that, generally speaking, racists are generally not a demographic to which the Democratic party openly panders. we may have a big tent, but there are still some standards for admission.

by 2501 2008-05-11 05:51AM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

any more, not "and more"

by 2501 2008-05-11 05:51AM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

I think she is saying this now for the benefit of WV voters who will like hearing her say that, regardless of what the rest of us think about the remarks. She is always thinking about the next election and the best way to win this particular election big is to say exactly what she said. I don't think it's any more or less that that.

by Becky G 2008-05-11 09:52AM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

Clinton is the one who said some of her supporters are racist. SNL is just pointing it out.

by heresjohnny 2008-05-11 06:25AM | 0 recs
When did she say this? Quote please?

She said white people vote for her.

She said she's getting a block of voters he's not getting.

These voters happen to be "downscale" in smaller towns.

All of this is true. But I'm "downscale" and am not a racist. I was for Obama until mid-January. He is not planning on reforming healthcare until "the end of my first term." I can't wait until 2012. Hillary will start on this right out of the gate. First 100 days.

by catfish1 2008-05-11 07:47AM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

she said, "Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again."

and if you have heard the audio there is absolutely no question that she was listing those as two separate groups. she was very clearly implying "hard working americans [are] white americans."

that is a slap in the face of all non-white Americans, because it is feeding into the racist stereotype of them not working as hard as everyone else. Senator Clinton is a smart woman, and she knows this. She did not do this on accident.

And Obama has said he wants to achieve healthcare reform by the end of his first term. Changing a system as massive as the national healthcare system is not going to happen in 100 days. Even if they brought legislation to a vote the day he was sworn in, it would take years to make all the changes. Hillary started fighting for healthcare reform "on day one" in 1993, and that never got done. Obama isn't setting a less ambitious goal, he is being honest about how long it is going to take.

by 2501 2008-05-11 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

The audio, which was played on pretty much every political show a couple of days ago, is really painful to listen to.  You can tell she's having a lot of trouble getting the words out.  In my opinion she was trying to equivocate and use 'hard-working' as a euphemism for white, and at the last minute decided to throw caution to the wind and say 'white' anyway.

by semiquaver 2008-05-11 03:05PM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

yes that's what it sounded like to me, too--that she was just using the same code-words they have been using, and then either out of desperation or exhaustion, let slip the meaning that was supposed to stay hidden.

by 2501 2008-05-11 04:51PM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

Unless she's saying that those voters won't vote for him in the GE her comment was irrelevant...

by heresjohnny 2008-05-11 10:37AM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

He's saying it will take that long to build a successful coalition to pass health care reform, and he's right.

Hillary would try to ram it down everyone's throats in the first 100 days, and it would be the 1990s all over again. She can't pass it because she pisses everyone off. Look at what happened then. She told Cooper she would "cut him off at the knees" because his plan wouldn't be universal until 1998. She was impatient. Look at where we'd be now if she were willing to compromise then. We would have had universal health care in 1998. Instead, we have a political climate where nobody wants to touch it, and many of whom we would need for a winning coalition oppose it whole heartedly.

Don't base your support on a pipe dream of a losing fighter.

by Zoey 2008-05-11 10:53AM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

I am a health policy advisor to the Obama campaign.  Obama has said he will get to work on national health care his first YEAR in office and that he will have it enacted by the end of his first term.  Hillary in contrast said she would have it enacted by the end of her SECOND term and her first year, she will sign the renewal of the Children's State Health insurance program.  These were said numerous times in debates over the last year.

Ted Kennedy has already added two staff to the health committee to draft Obama's plan into legislation so that it is ready to be introduced right after the inauguration.  This is the only way health care will happen.  Quickly after the election, assuming he sweeps more Dems in on his coattails so that the Repubs can't filibuster.

Hillary is all talk, no action on this.  Obama is the only one who can and will get it done.

by Helenann 2008-05-11 11:35AM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

Please, please, please, write a diary about this exact topic. There's enough anti-Obama trolls on this board that love to spew opinion with no facts.

by upstate girl 2008-05-11 11:43AM | 0 recs

I want to hear some knowledgable information on this, if only to quiet architek down some.

My work only gives insurance that's cheap but bad or sufficient but too expensive; there's no middle ground.

I need an alternative government plan like nobody's business.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-11 11:58AM | 0 recs
Re: When did she say this? Quote please?

I would also like to see a diary on this. I think this is an issue where many myths and half truths have been perpetuated by supporters on both sides. Some clarity would be much appreciated.

by Zoey 2008-05-11 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

SNL didn't say it ... Hillary did!  She was, of course, only speaking about her rural and working class white supporters.

by MsCasey 2008-05-11 06:44AM | 0 recs
Re: its called comedy.

Actually it wasn't SNL that said that hard working white people are racist and, hence, wouldn't vote for a black candidate, it was Senator Clinton.

by vermontprog 2008-05-11 07:58AM | 0 recs
Well, if they called us sweet and fine Americans,

that wouldn't get many laughs would it?

Stop the silliness, this is what comedy shows do.

by lombard 2008-05-11 10:43AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

It's more of an attack on Clinton's supporters. That's really not helpful to Obama or SNL for that matter. Calling people racists isn't a plus.

by soyousay 2008-05-11 04:49AM | 0 recs
you're too sensitive

it was funny.

and it will remain LOL until Howard Wolfson or Terry Mac or Hills herself say otherwise.

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 04:58AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!


see 2501 above. he/she has the best analysis yet. no one is saying that if you voted for Hillary then you are a racist!

i know many Hillary supporters. they are my friends and family and they voted for Hillary because they thought she was the better candidate. they are not racist.

by batgirl71 2008-05-11 07:57AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I agree with you. Your Clinton supporters are probably not racist, except in the candidate's mind.

by vermontprog 2008-05-11 07:59AM | 0 recs
What the hell are you saying?

I just want to make sure before I go off on you?  Are you saying that Clinton supporters don't feel they are racist but our candidate hopes we are?

by lombard 2008-05-11 10:46AM | 0 recs
Re: What the hell are you saying?

Hillary Clinton thinks that her supporters, among the white working class will not support Obama.  A number of people have said that behind the scenes in arguments to superdelegates her reasoning is that he's black.

Publicly, she leaves it to members of her campaign to say.  Ed Rendell is one.  Sergio Ben Dixon is another.  She has not retracted their statements, nor has she been asked to.

by Agent77 2008-05-11 10:59AM | 0 recs
So, ergo, she must believe they are racist

Voters have more formidable mental barriers to voting for Obama than the color of his skin.  Some people think that Obama resembles the type of Democrat that has been rejected by voters too often in the past.  Many object to his presidency based on grounds of meritocracy.  In their own lives, they believe that nobody who just became a junior executive and has little discernible accomplishments would be pushed ahead of others into the CEO position.

by lombard 2008-05-11 11:10AM | 0 recs
Re: So, ergo, she must believe they are racist

I have no doubt there are many reasons.  But this is what the candidate and her campaign have said.

by Jordache 2008-05-11 07:19PM | 0 recs

OK.  I am an Obama supporter but I have to admit, that was uncomfortable to watch.

by rf7777 2008-05-11 04:55AM | 0 recs
I am a Clinton supporter, and I though it was fine

If people can't tolerate equal opportunity political
skewering on a comedy show, then the country truly is going to hell in a hand basket.

I do love good comedy and humor.  What I have discovered hanging around lib web sites is that humor is not a liberal strong suit.

by lombard 2008-05-11 10:50AM | 0 recs
I guess no one accused you of understanding

satirical skit.

Oh yes, repeating the talking heads accusations, and B O is just squeaky clean. lol

by environmentally blue 2008-05-11 04:57AM | 0 recs
Re: I guess no one accused you of understanding

And when they were showing the media fawning all over B O, and that he should get a pillow, I supposed you thought that was a compliment as well, huh?  lol

by environmentally blue 2008-05-11 04:58AM | 0 recs
You're right. This was a VICTORY for Hills

talk 'bout satire.

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 04:59AM | 0 recs
Re: I guess no one accused you of understanding

Oh yes.  I'm sure they and all the others Hillary supporter and voters enjoy being called racist for not supporting B O.  And that's why Al here thinks this was a slam. Does he think no one else here's the B O camp claims......starting in NH?  RIGHT.

by LindaSFNM 2008-05-11 05:02AM | 0 recs
you should be laughing

didn't you laugh when you saw Dr Strangelove, "gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"

but if you want to be merely political, you can simply say Hillary is a victim.

by Al Rodgers 2008-05-11 05:06AM | 0 recs
Re: I guess no one accused you of understanding

"satirical skit. Oh yes, repeating the talking heads accusations, and B O is just squeaky clean."

that's how i saw it too-although i did not think it was quite a lol skit; more of a slow, sly smile...

by california voter 2008-05-11 06:53AM | 0 recs
Brutal, but concise

I don't think this skit necessarally portrays accurately how Clinton is campaigning now, but it does underscore the essential issues at stake very clearly.

There is a fear that Clinton will be a sore loser out there.  Certainly on this blog there are a lot of people who might be considered sore losers... look at 1950Democrat's diary from yesterday where he said he'd follow Clinton anywhere but Camp Obama.  The media has been reporting on wedge politics so vigorously that some people are now personally invested in the opposing candidate losing instead of their candidate winning.  You know, screw policy platforms or the future of the country, that guy must pay.

I know Jerome doesn't want us to talk about it, but exit polling does confirm that race does matter to perhaps 10% of Clinton's voters.  This either means that they just really love white people or they do have a problem with black people.  Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away; it's a legitimate issue that Obama will face in the general election, because racists, indeed, will not likely vote for a black president, even against their economic well-being.  I don't think that this reflects significant race-cards being played on the part of either candidate: You don't need to provoke a racist to vote against a black person.  They've probably come to that conclusion on their own.  

Finally, it is very true that Clinton is viewed by many as having no scruples whatsoever.  I have Republican friends who, when I remarked that it was bizarre that she was flipping on the gas tax holiday issue from her 2000 position, welcomed me to their nightmare; even moderate Republicans have believed for over a decade and a half that there is no position that she holds sacred and that she'll sacrifice anything or anyone to win.  I still have a hard time believing that she would start self-financing to Mitt Romney levels in pursuit of a 5% chance at the nomination (and that's a generous estimate).

This skit has everything to do with media perception of Hillary Clinton; it remains to be seen how accurate it is.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-11 05:11AM | 0 recs
Race matters to me

I began primary season thinking we really needed a person of color in office. For Americans under 40, whites make up less than half the population. In other words, for this age group, for the future, there is no "racial minority."

But he is too inexperienced, unseasoned, and frankly immature for this job.

by catfish1 2008-05-11 07:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Race matters to me

Odd then with those character faults that he has run such a successful campaign.

by interestedbystander 2008-05-11 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Race matters to me

Against prohibitive odds.

Had any of us seen it coming, we could have made GOOD MONEY.


by Agent77 2008-05-11 10:06AM | 0 recs
Just like Bill in 1992 compared to Bush I

Get back to me on how that turned out.

by Regenman 2008-05-11 09:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Race matters to me


by Agent77 2008-05-11 10:06AM | 0 recs
Of course.

Don't you remember that time he gave Hillary the finger??/

by kyle in philly 2008-05-11 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Brutal, but concise

That's the public perception of Hillary that has been following her around since Bill was elected to the governor's office of Arkansas. Most people are not aware of this, but the people of Arkansas despised her. The weird thing was, people knew how badly Bill treated her then, but they hated her in spite of that.

by Zoey 2008-05-11 11:00AM | 0 recs

If she was so hated, why did she win the state via such huge margins?  Is it a Kansas/West Virginia thing?  Or have people forgotten the hate and are just going for the hometown team?

by Dracomicron 2008-05-11 11:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Strange

I think it's a combination of factors. I think some of the reasons she was hated weren't really valid, other reasons were related to her nontraditional role. Some of the debatably valid reasons have been forgotten. And people are more willing to forgive and back their own against outsiders and newcomers.

by Zoey 2008-05-11 02:35PM | 0 recs
Heh, some sensitivity here

Look, analyzing comedy is mostly a waste of time, but the point of the "my supporters are racist" joke wasn't to say that EVERY SINGLE Clinton supporter is a racist who won't vote for a black candidate; it was to point out that, YES, there ARE Clinton supporters who will NOT vote for Obama simply because he is black.  That's just a (sad) fact, and it IS funny to (1) mock those racists and (2) tease Clinton for supposedly banking on white-people-who-will-never-support-the- black-guy vote.

Every time a Clinton supporter here gets all outraged that race is discussed, I laugh.  They are denying simple truths about racism in America, and that outrage is beyond faux.

The sketch was funny.  Good stuff.

by Slim Tyranny 2008-05-11 05:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Heh, some sensitivity here

I have to give Clinton supporters some credit here. There are people out there making blanket statements about Clinton supporters being racist. There are a lot of people saying everyone at MyDD is racist. Heck, there are even people saying that MyDD itself is racist. It's no wonder the people here are sensitive about the racist meme. If I happened to think the white candidate was better, and people kept calling me a racist for that, I'd be sensitive every time the race issue came up too. As an Obama supporter, I feel sorry for the nonracist Clinton supporters on this issue. But at the same time, I wish more of the Clinton supporters would recognize that the Clintons have been openly courting the racist vote in West Virginia.

by Zoey 2008-05-11 11:05AM | 0 recs
Not funny

I didn't think it was that funny. I didn't think the skits trashing Obama were that funny either. Tina Fey's 'bitch is the new black' was pretty funny though and Chris Rock's take on Clinton Obama was funny but they have talent. SNL hasn't been that funny for a long time.

by hankg 2008-05-11 05:24AM | 0 recs
Pimp my related Dailykos diary?

Don't mind if I do: 6490/23273/998/513606

by Bob Sackamento 2008-05-11 05:46AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

That is too funny.

by Blue Neponset 2008-05-11 05:51AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I think that Hillary said it best, white, hard working white americans are her core supporters, and yes there was something hidden in there, but I can't say or I will get thrown off of MyDD.  No matter what she meant she made a big mistake in thinking that hard core yellow dog democrats as myself would find what she said not offensive.  The truth is that Hillary's supporters are not yellow dog democrats who vote democrat no matter who is running, but are democrats who democrats can't depend on no matter how hard democrats try to win them over.  These Reagan democrats she says will vote for her in November are the same ones that voted for Bush two times, and will more than likely vote for McCain even if she was to be the nominee.  Obama's supporters are yellow dog democrats, and AAs and white workers (college and non-college voters), and independents, and young voters who are more involved in politics than ever before.  

by Spanky 2008-05-11 06:01AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

It had the potential to be funny, but the delivery was poor and drawn-out.  It made me smile, but wasn't worth a LOL.

by username4 2008-05-11 06:20AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I think you misinterpreted the humor.

by TexasDarlin 2008-05-11 06:27AM | 0 recs
I agree

I don't think they are "clobbering" Hillary at all... I think they are calling out and making fun of everyone but Hillary actually. To me it is Obama supporters and the media that are the brunt of this joke. The intention is to point out exactly how over-the-top the accusations against her are.

by twinmom 2008-05-11 06:43AM | 0 recs
Re: I agree


by TexasDarlin 2008-05-11 06:45AM | 0 recs
Re: I agree

I'm going to interpret "Agreed" as a mocking of those who actually think a skit ripping HRC is a skit mocking everyone but HRC.  

by PantsB 2008-05-11 07:25AM | 0 recs
at this point

I think the media, the blogosphere, and some Clinton and Obama supporters have all gone off the deep edge.  

Off topic: does your username mean you're the mother to twins?   If so, double-happy-mother's day!

by mffarrow 2008-05-11 06:52AM | 0 recs

Yup... 4 year old twin boys.

I'm trying to raise them to understand sophisticated and ironic comedy when they see it. :)

by twinmom 2008-05-11 07:04AM | 0 recs
Re: I agree

That's some fancy deconstruction you got there. The obvious message is meant to be its negation.  

by politicsmatters 2008-05-11 07:15AM | 0 recs
Re: I agree

Oh, right.

The best way to poke fun at the Obama supporters is to caricature Hillary. I mean, they'd be hard pressed to caricature Obama or his supporters making those "over-the-top" accusations.

Party on!

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 07:24AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I agree - it was a skit making fun of everyone but Hillary.  If anything it was poking fun at everyone in the blog world who repeats the memes in the skit over and over like it is their mantra.  

by JustJennifer 2008-05-11 07:18AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

You know, if not for incisive thinking such as this, I'd have sworn that all those years of Bush caricatures were poking fun at him. Who'd have thought they were in actuality targetting his critics? Someone had better enlighten the VRWC that SNL's been on their side all along.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 07:27AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!
Up is down!
Freedom is slavery!
Black is white!
by politicsmatters 2008-05-11 07:46AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

And SNL is funny. Or smart.

by Rationalisto 2008-05-11 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Thank goodness for my DVR - I can fast forward through the not funny stuff - like Amy Poehler as Hillary Clinton saying "I have no ethical standards."  Hee... hee.  Yawn.

by mikes101 2008-05-11 07:19AM | 0 recs
If you don't think there are racist supporters...

of Hillary Clinton, you should come knock on doors in Appalachia with me for the general election.

Not all her supporters are racist - I'd assume most are NOT, and I'd also assume ALL the ones posting here are NOT. However, there are racist ones out there. I know, because I've met them here in central PA. They call me "n*%%@r-lover," and call him the associated name. They did it when I was campaigning for him, and they still do it when my car (which has an Obama bumper sticker" has its windows open.

by BrioHondo 2008-05-11 07:33AM | 0 recs
and just to be clear...

many of the people I've met in the fashion described above said "I'm voting for Hillary."

Now, they may just be voting in the dem primary due to their blatant racism, doing everything they can to keep a black man out of the oval office. In that sense they may not truly be "Hillary supporters." But the fact remains that I've encountered quite a few people (as have my friends, some of which are true Hillary supporters) that are openly racist AND are voting for Senator Clinton.

by BrioHondo 2008-05-11 07:36AM | 0 recs
Re: If you don't think there are racist supporters

And the point of the sketch was not that HRC's supporters are racist.  Its that HRC is claiming they are.  Thats exactly what she was claiming when she made the "hard working Americans, white Americans" comment - that a sizable portion of specifically her white supporters wouldn't support Obama.  The implication that this was because they are racially biased (by specifying white) was pretty clear.

by PantsB 2008-05-11 06:34PM | 0 recs
If whites voted 85-90% Clinton ....

end of story, end of primary.

And yet, it's whites who are called racist even though whites have voted for Obama in much larger percentages that AA's voting for Hillary.  But.... I guess that has nothing to do with race.  Right.  

Then again, I have learned in this campaign that if AAs do things that appear racist, it's not racist at all.  It's justified because of hellish experiences at the hands of whites.

by Southern Mouth 2008-05-11 07:45AM | 0 recs
Re: If whites voted 85-90% Clinton ....

So women voting for Hillary because she is a woman are sexist? Anyway, you make a big assumption when you assume why people are voting for a specific candidate. Isn't that why you get so upset when you think people imply that a vote for Hillary is racist?

Also, Hillary supporters need to ask themselves why Hillary had a majority of support among African Americans in late 2007 but watched this vote abandon her as the contest played out in 2008.

by batgirl71 2008-05-11 08:12AM | 0 recs
The facts speak

Also, Hillary supporters need to ask themselves why Hillary had a majority of support among African Americans in late 2007 but watched this vote abandon her as the contest played out in 2008.

Michelle Obama:

BRZEZINSKI: The polls are showing your husband is trailing Hillary 46% to 37% in the African-American community. What is going on here?

OBAMA: First of all, I think that's not going to hold. I'm completely confident. Black America will wake up and get it, but what we're dealing with in the Black community is just the natural fear of possibility. You know, when I look at my life, you know, the stuff that we're seeing in these polls has played out my whole life. Always been told by somebody that I'm not ready, you know, I can't do something. My scores weren't high enough. There's always that doubt in the back of the minds of people of color. People who have been oppressed and haven't been given real opportunities that you never really, that you believe somehow, someone is better than you. You know, deep down inside you doubt whether you can do it because that's all you've been told is, no, wait. That's all you hear. And you hear it from people who love you, not because they don't care about you, but they're afraid. They're afraid that something might happen.

by Southern Mouth 2008-05-11 08:50AM | 0 recs
Re: The facts speak

If black people didn't vote for white people almost exclusively, then you'd have a point.

But they do and you don't.  I don't understand how anyone can claim that there is a single black voter who won't vote for a white person - they do it all the time.  

by Agent77 2008-05-11 09:44AM | 0 recs
I don't think that's what I said.

And incidentally, I do have a point.  It just differs from yours.  Just because we don't agree doesn't mean you or I don't have a point.  I am a liberal and I will agree to the nth that even if we disagree, YOU HAVE A POINT.

Those who think I have "no point" are usually Republicans and think that it's ONLY Republicans who have a point.

Sounds like lines from "The Point", the story of the little boy who was born with a round head in a country where everyone's head was pointed.  People shunned him - he had "no point".  He was banished to the Pointless Forest by the way.  Good little movie!

by Southern Mouth 2008-05-11 02:28PM | 0 recs
Re: If whites voted 85-90% Clinton ....

African-Americans didn't start out voting for Barack Obama.  They started out voting for Clinton, about 60:40.  And then the Clinton campaign did absolutely everything in their power to lose those votes.  She earned every black vote she doesn't get, and then some.

Also, if black voters are so racist, how come they've been the most reliable Democratic voting block of any group out there?  How come they voted for Ben Cardin instead of Michael Steele in Maryland in the midterms?

by darryl darryl darryl 2008-05-11 08:42AM | 0 recs
Re: If whites voted 85-90% Clinton ....

Here in pennsylvania  blacks supported Ed Rendell over Lynn Swann.  

by realistdem 2008-05-11 09:04AM | 0 recs
So it's just coincidental

Would the same be said if Hillary or any white got 85-90% of the white vote? in this particular race.

I don't think so.  Because I keep hearing every time whites vote in large numbers for Hillary, the media calls it racism.  Some bloggers do as well.  People seem to KNOW what whites are thinking and if anyone dares assume anything about blacks going by stats, then that's racism too.

I've had 8 years of hate-filled persecution of Bill Clinton, followed by 7 years of "Thou shalt not criticize Bush" cause if you do, (1) you don't love America, (2) you're not a Christian, and (3) you want our country to lose the war against terrorists.  

I get a little peeved when I hear from anyone that someone, anyone can't be criticized for fear of being called a name.

Hillary has proved, if nothing else, that she can take a punch, be bloodied and still stand.  All punches she has leveled, whether above or below the belt, have been called foul and the crowd and media boos!  That's just my opinion.

By the way, I didn't start off disliking Obama - not one teeney bit.  I was very proud of my country, very proud of his accomplishments.  But when I heard that Bill Clinton was making racist remarks for using the words "fairy tale", I didn't like it.  And when I SAW Hillary say in an interview when asked repeatedly about Barack's religious beliefs and she said, "As far as I know" and to this day, that statement is touted by Obama supporters as foul, below the belt, then I'm left thinking that if elected, we'll have more years of a President that we cannot criticize - at all - for fear of being called bad names!

I'm a little fed up to the gills right now and don't expect to change my tastes in that regard.

by Southern Mouth 2008-05-11 09:34AM | 0 recs
Re: So it's just coincidental

When you can point to white people having a history of black candidates, then we'll be getting somewhere.  And I mean both you and I, and the nation as a whole.

But, to continue - black people supported Bill Clinton 80+% over Douglas Wilder.  Supported John Kerry 80+% over Al Sharpton.  Supported Gore in similar numbers.

You have no argument.  They vote for candidates in overwhelming proportions all the time, and the one time the candidate happens to be black, suddenly you're skeptical?  Well don't be.

by Agent77 2008-05-11 09:47AM | 0 recs
Fed up with racism

Yeah, it's just an irritant out there.  It doesn't exist.

No matter that my Asian immigrant mom won't vote for Obama because he's black.  That's not racism or bigotry.  That's just a statement of fact.

No matter that blacks do vote for white candidates all the @#$@ time.

Go take a poll of your non-bigots and see how many of them have ever voted for an ethnic minority (black, Asian, latino) and tell me your numbers.

They'll be damn low.

by Regenman 2008-05-11 10:02AM | 0 recs
Hey, I'm Democrat and I know there's racism

I know it all too well - I AM from the the South.  I also understand that racism runs rampant in the north as well, probably east and west.  So don't count me blind, or deaf or dumb!

I just keep hearing in the media that whites are NOT voting for Obama - because he's black - I guess because some redneck said so.  SOME of us didn't vote for him because we didn't think he'd do the job we particulary thought needed doing.  Some of us are not all that "inspired" by the word change.  I've lived thru the work culture where change, in and of itself, was deemed effing wonderful.  I didn't like that thinking then, don't now.  Not all change is grand - Myanmarr just had a big change - not a good one.

But back to media crap - whites NOT voting for Obama because of his color.  I hear stats about AAs voting for Barack, over and over .... and let me digress .... I understand COMPLETELY that AAs have in Barack an outstanding candidate of whom they can be exceedingly proud and completely supportive, a FIRST really viable candidate!!!  If I were black, I'd probably be right there routing and tooting for Obama.  So, if that's the case for SOME Obama supporters, not all, and I have no particular problem with it and in fact have understanding, why is it that others can't understand that some of the white people don't feel that way.

Why is it that we're called RACIST if we are simply guilty of not being AA?  That's the feeling I get.  I do understand that there will always be assholes out there who are racist bigot pigs who will say horribly derrogatory things about people just because of the color of their skin.  They ain't going away folks!  Free country and unfortunately freedom allows people to express their idiotic ideas.

But just because I'm PROUD of Hillary - it's not because she's white, it's not because she's a woman.  Take that back, I'm somewhat excited by the prospect of a woman president.  Perhaps that is why I can understand Obama supporters.  But I resent the accusations that Hillary supporters are just out to get rid of the black ... and worse.

Case in point.  When it was first talked about the dream ticket of Clinton/Obama - I don't think I ever once effing heard that Clinton would need a "food taster" - insinuating that Obama would poison Hillary to gain the Presidency.  I have however heard that little bit of disgusting rhetoric not once, not twice, but multiple times if the reverse were true.  And OF COURSE, the Republicans did a good enough smear on Bill Clinton - you know THE ONE who got the blowjob - to convince people that the Clintons are white trash that need to crawl in a hole and die.  How many times have I heard about Obama:  "He'll do anything to win".  And how many times have I heard that about Hillary.  You cannot convince me that Obama is not OUT TO WIN the nomination and presidency and you cannot convince me that he is as pure as the driven snow in all his campaign dealings.  Period.

I need to stop - I'm upset now because I just took my little dog to an emergency vet clinic for shock and blockage from which he might not recover.  A $700 to $900 bill and he may not make it.  Yes, I'm a doting animal lover and a tree hugger - animals just love people - the good, the bad, and the ugly.  I'm sure I fit all those categories at some time or another!

by Southern Mouth 2008-05-11 02:19PM | 0 recs
Re: So it's just coincidental

You're basing your dislike of Obama on some of his supporters instead of on what Obama says himself. Obama has tried very hard not to be the black candidate and to quash the talk about race and what-not.

by Zoey 2008-05-11 11:13AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

If any of Hillarys supporters think this skit was a satire of the medias perception of her then you are still in the denial phase.    A very, very deep denial phase.   Whats the stage of grief after denial?

by realistdem 2008-05-11 07:48AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Anger, I believe, is on its way.

Followed by Bargaining. Probably in time for the Veep selection.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 04:05PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Last night's skit was pretty harsh.  Maybe they felt that people took their comedy too seriously following their famous debate sketch and decided to even things out, as it were.  Anyway, I doubt that the average skit has much impact on the media narrative.

by rfahey22 2008-05-11 07:54AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

by the way I wouldnt say they were in the tank for her at all.

they should go back to the old stuff, at least that way they are being all controversial and shit.they were more famous that way.

by amde 2008-05-11 08:25AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Something or somebody 'clobbered' Hillary.   Yep, a truly orgasmic moment for the Obama supporters (aka Hillary haters).

Yep, you really don't want the votes of Hillary's supporters in the fall, do you?

The arrogance of assuming that you will 'have them' anyway may be the downfall of your candidate.

by emsprater 2008-05-11 08:34AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I would hope there's nothing Obama supporters could say that would have an effect on you one way or the other.

by Agent77 2008-05-11 09:49AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

How far up your ass would you like Obama's supporters to climb? I've read any number of threats and whines on this blog about "Well, if they want my vote..."

Just tell us. What exactly do you want? A blank check? A hug? What?

And as for your vote, it is your vote, your choice. Do what you need to. You'll get the government you deserve.

by Rationalisto 2008-05-11 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

If we lose the presidency to McCain thanks to "grudge" voters, my candidate would simply continue in the Senate before giving it another go in 2012.

No, it is your and my downfall (and that of most sane people in this country and the world) that I worry about - as should you.

I'll thank you to stop waving your vote in my face, and start rethinking your assumptions afresh.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 03:54PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!


That was really funny.  The most funny part is that I don't think most Obama supporters, such as Al Rogers, realize that they are poking fun of people like him.  She was demonstrating EXACTLY how hardcore obamabots actually think Hillary is.  LOL

One obamabot that i know recently called Hillary a c*nt.  This from a hardcore democrat.  How sad what the kool-aid has done to this party.  

08 will be a repeat of the McGovern slaughter.  Clinton knows this and bless her for trying to save the democratic party from another massive failure.  Hats of to you sen. clinton

by Scope441 2008-05-11 08:59AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Get a grip on reality.

by Pravin 2008-05-11 06:44PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Oh the thinking Clinton supporters will vote for Obama.  The dittoheads of course will not.  Fortunately there are far more thinking Clinton supporters then dittoheads.

by ajleiker 2008-05-11 09:08AM | 0 recs

been for Hillary.  Lorne Michaels has donated to McCain, and the head writer is an Obama supporter.  Tina Fey wrote the pro-Hillary stuff, but she's not even on the show anymore.  She was guest-hosting, and once she was gone it allowed the show to express its true feelings which are anti-Hillary.  You see how that works?

by izarradar 2008-05-11 09:15AM | 0 recs

You're referring to Jim Downey, who wrote the CNN skit that prompted the million "SNL EXPOSES MEDIA BIASES!" diaries.  He probably wrote this one too.

I said at the time "guys, don't anything into this: SNL is not pro-Hillary".  But no, I was told, they see the truth.

by Agent77 2008-05-11 09:56AM | 0 recs
Classic bait and switch

Tina Fey comes on and they have a pro-Hillary show.  The show is all the talk (and God knows this show needs to be talked up because it ain't what it used to be), and the following week people tune in to see SNL, and ratings are boosted.  But instead of pro-Hillary sketches, we have Tracy Morgan telling us that "bitch may be the next black," but "black is the next President."  And from there on in the true political colors of the show's staff is revealed. Is it any surprise?  SNL has been a source of misogynist pre-adolescent humor (and I use the term loosely) ever since it was first conceived.  The women who have been cast members have all disappeared into oblivion (except for Tina Fey and Julia Louis Dreyfus) while many of the male cast members  have gone on to have bigtime film careers.

by izarradar 2008-05-11 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

You know it not's real. The character is wearing a pants suit which actually looks designer made. Not off the rack at Wal Mart.

by johnny sexton 2008-05-11 09:53AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL clobbered Obama!

Then you weren't watching carefully.  I remember reading in disbelief the diaries gushing about "Bitch is the new black" and how that should be the campaign's new motto.  Seriously.

And SNL was held up as the great truthteller about how the MSM were in the tank for Obama.

by deminva 2008-05-11 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL clobbered Obama!

My how quickly people forget.  That was only like a month ago.

by catalysis 2008-05-11 11:21AM | 0 recs
They dont hate Hillary......

...I mean look at all the material she is giving them.  They must read her recent comments look up and say "This stuff writes itself".

Sometimes it takes comedy to point out the obvious

by xenontab 2008-05-11 10:23AM | 0 recs
SNL was satirizing YOU, Obamazoids!

She was parroting all the crap you and cable news have been regurgitating day after day.

The hilarious part is how you neanderthals didn't get it.

by internetstar 2008-05-11 10:28AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL was satirizing YOU, Obamazoids!

Like "Obama and I are really neck-and-neck".

by Agent77 2008-05-11 10:44AM | 0 recs
Like "I have the broad base, and

Obama has the zomby cultists and "vote-my-race" people, who are in republican states and can't do a thing for him in the GE.

by internetstar 2008-05-11 10:48AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL was satirizing YOU, Obamazoids!

and tr'd for Obamazoids and Neanderthals.

by Agent77 2008-05-11 10:45AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL was satirizing YOU, Obamazoids!

Is that cherry flavored kool-aid?  That's my fav.

by proseandpromise 2008-05-11 10:47AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL was satirizing YOU, Obamazoids!

mojo'd because the poster is basically telling the truth.

SNL took the MSM & obama camp lines and satirized them.

by colebiancardi 2008-05-11 12:24PM | 0 recs
Inappropriate uprating.

Did you miss where the poster refers to other users as "neanderthals" and "Obamazoids"?

by Shem 2008-05-11 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Have we considered that this was Pohler's way of getting back at Hillary for losing?  Pohler had to be drooling at the prospect of being the pre-eminent caricature of Clinton.  

by proseandpromise 2008-05-11 10:46AM | 0 recs
Overthinking SNL. How Academic.

Obama supporter?

by internetstar 2008-05-11 10:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Overthinking SNL. How Academic.

Actually yes.  But I was being tongue in cheek.  

by proseandpromise 2008-05-11 11:38AM | 0 recs
Tina Fey Obvious Knows What Time It Is.
I love that woman, and I hope she continues to write humor for years to come.
I never spoke ill of anyone that was a Hillary supporter, except Bayh's accusation of elitist and Strickland bobbing his head while Hillary said "shame on you Obama.
People like Tina, James Carville, Paul Krugman, and Tina Fey are what the progressive movement needs.
by Otaku Saru 2008-05-11 10:49AM | 0 recs
If only it had been funny ...

by obsessed 2008-05-11 10:59AM | 0 recs
Re: If only it had been funny ...

It's hard to laugh about anything in this primary anymore.

by proseandpromise 2008-05-11 11:39AM | 0 recs
"It's hard to laugh about anything ..."

youtube seems to have managed to stay funny at least.

by obsessed 2008-05-11 01:45PM | 0 recs
Look out folks

It looks like the NBC site got hacked.

If you go to the official SNL page and open up the Clinton sketch, you get spammed if you don't have a pop-up blocker and a really loud audio clip starts repeating:

"Hey everybody, I'm looking at gay porno!"

Don't try this at work.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-11 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I see that skit as an attack on Obama, since the 3 points made about Hillary are actually the backbone of the Obama campaign.

by mbfeldma 2008-05-11 12:13PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

The diarist doesn't seem to understand satire.

this isn't a hit piece against Hillary, but against the MSM and the Obama campaign.

It is taking their talking points and blowing them up & out of the water.

Just like Campbell Brown really didn't have an organism when she asked Obama questions.  Come on, learn what satire really is and who they are really slamming.

by colebiancardi 2008-05-11 12:21PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

1  : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn

I think you saw scorn.

by nextgen 2008-05-11 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

yes, scorn against the MSM and their wild and out of control punditry.

hell, they are on 24x7 - they make half of the shit up while they are probably sitting on the can.  What else are they going to do?  Read REAL news?  

by colebiancardi 2008-05-11 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

And what better way to scorn the MSM and their wild and out of control punditry than to caricature Hillary.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 04:10PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

lol - the MSM is already doing that.  Again, you missed the point of the skit.

by colebiancardi 2008-05-12 03:15AM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I didn't think Campbell Brown had an "organism" either.

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 01:17PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

But since you're all convinced this is a laudatory piece for Hillary, maybe you can convince Wolfson to use it in future campaign ads.  

by Sumo Vita 2008-05-11 01:22PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I just hope no one else got the organism as a result of her feigned orgasm.

by obsessed 2008-05-11 01:48PM | 0 recs
Non-corporate humorists kick SNL's butt

I hate to say it, but SNL just ain't funny this year, no matter whom they're pimping.

You want funny?

Go to 0:30 of this clip:

Her nonchalance as she whips out the pistol is, for me, the funniest moment of this entire epic tragedy.

by obsessed 2008-05-11 01:54PM | 0 recs
Hillary and Obama-free humor

Those two should get a room and give us a break for a few hours.

SNL used to be this funny: mp;watch_response

by obsessed 2008-05-11 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I liked it.

We all know TEAM Obama with 90% black support will call racism against other racial groups being less racial in their selection.  I can't hear their crying though when Black voters are so racially biased this cycle.  Maybe next cycle West Virginia is racist but in this cycle they are equally as non racist as I am calling the black vote for Obama which sits at 90% to 10%.

We also know Hillary will fight her heart out no matter what.
Thats true.

And like it or not may of us won't be voting for Obama based on how he has campaigned and how his wife is in control of who his VP candidate will be.

Other than that it was clearly written by an Obama supporter and fades from memory like the crap on MSNBC.

by DTaylor 2008-05-11 03:08PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Perhaps you can tell black voters to stop supporting Democrats each election by 90% so you don't have to worry about racial bias.  That will elect lots of Republicans.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-11 03:21PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

I support the end of racism which will include the end of Black people voting democratic by 90% to 10%

by DTaylor 2008-05-11 06:44PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

The voting for Hillary is a very good place to start.

by Jordache 2008-05-11 07:23PM | 0 recs

None of you complained when Black voters voted 80% for democrats.  

Speaking of crying, why is it every thing/one/organization that criticizes Clinton is sexist?

Yesterday she was talking about being the first woman/mother/wife/sister/daughter to be president, could she pander more to the emotions of women?

"Come Save Me Sisters!"

by nextgen 2008-05-11 03:24PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Stupid and idiotic posts like this reinforces why I have come to lothe BO and his blogging worshipers.

Nominate BO  - Hello McBush

by Newport News Dem 2008-05-11 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

why is this funny?

by Hillarywillwin 2008-05-11 05:34PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!

Actually, it's not that funny.  SNL is hit or miss at best, and this is a miss.

But then again, I didn't think their Obama skit was funny either.  I think this was posted mostly because it's another sign that even people who Clinton supporters can't accuse of being in the tank for Obama think there's a problem with the recent tone of her campaign.

by TL 2008-05-11 05:48PM | 0 recs
Re: SNL Clobbers Hillary !!
Please do some research when you do a diary
  1. Tina Fey has nothing to do with SNL this year except for her guest spot.
  2. SNL has made fun of Hillary in the past. The Tina Fey episode and a subsequent one were the only real eps that put out a favorable episode on Hillary.
by Pravin 2008-05-11 06:41PM | 0 recs


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