Obama talks to a gaggle of reporters: Fox News asks a question

by aiko, Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 08:15:51 AM EDT

Obama answered questions today before a group of reporters. Brit Hume of Fox News was in the gaggle of reporters and asked a question. Obama answered Hume's question.

I am sure the Fox freeze out will end some day and everyone will go ballistic but if you expect him to dis a reporter in public--it isn't likely.

But what really galls me is the rush to judgement. Why the rush to condemn him? What is going on? Breaking Blue and a Recommended Diary all on misleading, incorrect, flat-out wrong information.

Obama is going to make mistakes but this crowd is laying in wait. You guys are gunning for him. It is stuff like this that gives blogging a bad name.

http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/04/ 11/obama-appears-on-fncs-air

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No matter how much this Administration wishes it to be true, the idea that the situation in Iraq is improving because it only takes a security detail of 100 soldiers, three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships to walk through a market in the middle of Baghdad is simply not credible or reflective of the facts on the ground.

by faithfull 2007-04-12 08:23AM | 0 recs

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Re: Recommended

They are disappointed because Barack Obama is calm and wise. They expect them to fit the stereotype of the wild and angry Black man image and they are disappointed that he doesn't show his fangs whenever they expect him to.

But make no mistake. These critics are not embarrassing the Blogosphere, they are embarrassing themselves only because it's always coming from the same people.

(Supporters of one specific candidate.)

They are cry babies. They complain about the Media. They complain about the Blogosphere. They think everyone is out to get them. They have turned on Oprah. When their candidate fails, they try to spin it and claim he meant to do it that way. It they can't spin it, they blame someone else for why their candidate failed.

It's sad , really.

by ObamaEdwards2008 2007-04-12 01:49PM | 0 recs

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Maybe you should post this

on the blog that actually posted the original incorrect story?

Personally I'm a bit embarassed but happy to be wrong.

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 08:26AM | 0 recs

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Re: Maybe you should post this

By passing it around without any fact check other than another non-fact-checked blog, only gives some of these Anti-Obama Pro-Edwards people false ammo.

It's rather evident with DpAndrews how he likes to post ridiculous claims left and right. He jumped right on your topic commenting about how Obama is soft when the article is false. Granted, he doesn't need your article to post about how he thinks Obama is soft, he does it in every diary.

I've posted a few times about how Democrats should think about Uniting instead of dividing for this election. Our common ground is wanting a bigger majority in the house, senate and winning the white house. Nobody wants to focus on that though, not when they can trash a candidate that isn't their guy.

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-04-12 08:41AM | 0 recs

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Well, he's not pro-Edwards

he's pro Hillary, he's an equal opportunity trasher, and i suspect if Edwards were 2nd now in national polls, he would be giving Obama less heat :).

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 08:55AM | 0 recs

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Re: Well, he's not pro-Edwards

Pardon, I should have caught he was pro-Hillary...

Oh well. Same difference. Candidate bashing goes all sorts of ways and I don't appreciate any!

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-04-12 09:02AM | 0 recs

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Lighten up everyone

You'd think someone had accused Obama of kicking a homeless man or something.

As for my being "pro Hillary", I wouldn't quite go that far. I haven't planted any signs on my lawn or stuck anything on my car. She is merely my first choice at this point in time.

My posts regarding Obama I think add some balance to the Obamamania that seems to flow from a lot of posters here who have come to imagine that the inexperienced junior Senator from IL represents all their political hopes, dreams, wishes and desires.

by dpANDREWS 2007-04-12 10:53AM | 0 recs

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Re: Lighten up everyone

Saying, "Who knows how Obama would respond to being swiftboated?" When people are already trying to throw their little attacks at him already. That isn't balancing anything.

McCain called Obama out on his plan for withdrawal. So what does Obama do? He criticizes the fact that McCain walked down the street with over 100 body guards.

The Prime Minister of Austrailia said terrorists want Obama to win. So what does Obama do? Says the Prime should up the ante in Iraq.

Not to mention Fox news gave off a story about him with one source. (Most news places get confirmation before the print a story). This of course being the Madrassa story. He responded by ignoring fox news almost entirely.

We know how Obama responds to swift boating.

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-04-12 11:44AM | 0 recs

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Re: Lighten up everyone

Your posts about Obama are about as "fair and balanced" as Fox News. There are FAR more anti Obama posts than pro-Obama posts. Oka is generally objective and looks to propel debate. You try to incite flame wars.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 12:00PM | 0 recs

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Re: Maybe you should post this

This did not deserve a 1 Man from Middletown.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 11:57AM | 0 recs

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Re: Maybe you should post this

I have no tolerance for people who engage in conspiracy theories that the frontpagers are working for one candidate or another.

This is ridiculous, and it's an ad hominen attack.

The attacks against Bowers and Stoller are out of line, and if you lack the ability to play well with others and not personally attack other posters, then you should leave.

by ManfromMiddletown 2007-04-12 01:12PM | 0 recs

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Maybe you should...

...drink a beer and sit on your porch for a little while.

by faithfull 2007-04-12 01:38PM | 0 recs

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Re: Maybe you should post this

You did jump the gun here... But at least you admit you fucked up, as did Matt. Others have not.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 08:59AM | 0 recs

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I did

the site seems to be a cable news watcher type of site. I assumed they were accurate and working off a real interview.

My guess is someone fed them wrong info or they just made an assumption?

I was very hesitant in posting becuase of how it might be perceived... but it seemed like too big a story not to post.

I'm wondering now if the "interview" is Fox is spinning this to create just this kind of response?

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 09:28AM | 0 recs

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This info came from the Politico, the same site/person that heralded the "scoop" that Edwards was dropping out of the campaign. Instead of considering the source, you immediately jumped on this to discredit Obama and feed divisiveness on this site. Someone even suggested this "info" needed to be cross-posted at kos-flamewars be damned. As one who admires Edwards but supports Obama, I find this behavior toxic. I wish it would stop. I originally thought that if Edwards could give us some kind of (subliminal?) sign that Obama would be Edwards's VP, I would support a unified netroots position. I say this because Obama embodies, IMO, Dean's 50 state strategy: he brings in both youth and disenfranchised voters everywhere and his contribution must not go unrewarded if we are to call ourselves peogressives. However the messianic fervor against Obama by some Edwards's supporters leaves me feeling sad and demoralized.

by pamelabrown 2007-04-12 09:54AM | 0 recs

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Politico linked to the site

just as i did, just as Matt did. it didn't "come from Politico" (though they havnet corrected the link yet).

If you problem with what was reported take it up with the original posters and ask them what their bias is.

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 10:10AM | 0 recs

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Re: I did

There is no need to attack Oka... He/She (sorry don't know your gender) is pretty fair and openminded on things... and will admit to being wrong.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 10:26AM | 0 recs

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Thanks

and its "he" :).

Guess its what I get for playing reporter.

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 12:24PM | 0 recs

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By Edwards supporters?

Did you catch some of Edward's comments at the Moveon forum? They where pretty tough and they seemed to be leveled squarely at Obama.

Edwards is in it to win it, and I don't think he is going to settle for the nicest candidate tag this time around. Nor should he. This is probably his last chance, at lease for a while.

by dpANDREWS 2007-04-12 10:57AM | 0 recs

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Re: By Edwards supporters?

Can we not use In It to Win it? That cliche just really sucks.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 12:01PM | 0 recs

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And this is a far more objective comment, BTW. Just to show you the difference in your posts.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 12:02PM | 0 recs

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Edwards is going to eat Obama's lunch

If Obama votes to continue funding the war without a time table or date specific for withdrawl, Edwards is going to move even harder than he did at the Moveon forum to position himself as the anti-war candidate.

by dpANDREWS 2007-04-12 12:08PM | 0 recs

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You'll be glad to know

that Obama has a withdrawal date of 3-31-08 for which the senate is coalescing around in order to stop the war Edwards voted to start.

by faithfull 2007-04-12 12:13PM | 0 recs

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I don't really understand the furor either. I get the criticism on the "praise", as Obama didn't even need to throw that little tidbit in there.

by clarkent 2007-04-12 08:31AM | 0 recs

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Please clarify re ..."Obama didn't even need to throw that tidbit in there"?

by pamelabrown 2007-04-12 08:40AM | 0 recs

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The one where he lauded McCain for "not being wise."

Brilliant. Obama just lost my vote!

by faithfull 2007-04-12 08:42AM | 0 recs

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I meanth that he didn't need to mention that he believed McCain's sincerity.

by clarkent 2007-04-12 09:34AM | 0 recs

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I don't have a problem with what he said and it plays into his civil politics message as well. Exactly the answer to expect... Discrediting the creep without saying he's a complete dumbass.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 10:27AM | 0 recs

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Obama doesn't have to call McCain a liar - he just doesn't need to bring up the issue of McCain's sincerity, one way or another. It's not the end of the world, but it does muddle up his message.

by clarkent 2007-04-12 11:07AM | 0 recs

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Can't you read between the lines?

"I don't doubt his sincerity" = "The guy is deluded"

by kvenlander 2007-04-12 01:28PM | 0 recs

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That's just it - the rest of his quote says it all. Why talk about whether McCain is sincere?

by clarkent 2007-04-12 01:46PM | 0 recs

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Because it makes him sound classy. It's a polite way of disagreeing. Nastiness is not the only way to get ahead in politics.

by Steve M 2007-04-12 03:18PM | 0 recs

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ha ha! thats great!

thanks for posting that!

that IS really what that means... when people say someone is sincere they mean "..he may believe this but he's nuts!"

by serge in dc 2007-04-12 01:48PM | 0 recs

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I think it's pretty funny that no one even entertains the notion that he might truly not doubt McCain's sincerity!

I think that's just as plausible, and to me, even more laudable than just saying it to be polite.

by GaryK 2007-04-12 05:05PM | 0 recs

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I don't doubt McCain's sincerity. His foreign policy is to the right of Bush. Why shouldn't he think the surge is an awesome idea?

Heck, I think Dick Cheney is sincere a lot of the time. When he says the insurgency is in its last throes, I have no reason to think he doesn't believe it. Sure, he's fuckin' nuts, but he believes it.

by Steve M 2007-04-12 06:17PM | 0 recs

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Right, what I like about Obama is that I think he really does see that many of those he disagrees with are sincerely doing what they think is best. I get the feeling that he sees that more than anyone else. That's his main message, and I don't think that tone leads to giving up one's beliefs, but I do think it leads to more effective advocacy.

I remember Edwards said something about GWB not "doing the best he can" in Iraq which struck me as a different tone, which doesn't appeal to me as much.

by GaryK 2007-04-12 08:15PM | 0 recs

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It also pisses me off when the breaking blue headline says "praises McCain" as if it's the worst possible thing someone could do. To me, that suggests a fundamentalist mentality, one that can't imagine those on the other side of the fence could be sincere or have any decency.

by GaryK 2007-04-12 08:27PM | 0 recs

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We shouldn't legitimize our enemies.

by jallen 2007-04-12 08:32PM | 0 recs

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We shouldn't legitimize opinions that we disagree with. However, not legitimizing someone as a PERSON makes us all look like the bunch of haters Fox/Drudge want us to look like.

by GaryK 2007-04-13 09:08AM | 0 recs

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< /snark>

by faithfull 2007-04-12 08:42AM | 0 recs

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This is going beyond just giving the blogosphere a bad name, it is showing it to be just what it is - completely absent any integrity. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha...well, you don't gotcha me anymore.

by dougdilg 2007-04-12 09:26AM | 0 recs

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I seem to catch a wiff of MSM with this current set up of Edwards vs Obama. Lately, yes, mydd has had this anti Obama bug about them for some reason. They have had a St. Edwards drumming as well. why they are doing this is beyond me. I do notice they are quick to spin anything anti Obama but, ignore certain things about Edwards. Like his remarks re: Imus.
I don't know if this is to set up flaming or they have gotten Pack fever. Just like the msm does. Find someone to attack and spin nasty things about.
It's especially sad that they are doing this kind of herd thinking when they are setting up a divide and let Hillary conquer situation.

by vwcat 2007-04-12 01:57PM | 0 recs

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Its funny, but the moment I read that little tidbit about obama I knew it was bull.

Some people on this site seem to get taken really easily by anti-obama smears. They should probably reevaluate their beliefs.

by sterra 2007-04-12 03:06PM | 0 recs

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Edwards has the blog-netroot on his back while Obama support on the internet comes from low low-internet users and from sites like Youtubes,myspace and facebook

by JaeHood 2007-04-12 03:53PM | 0 recs

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Re: Obama talks to a gaggle of reporters: Fox News

Joe Biden: "I don't think John Edwards knows what the heck he's talking about".

by pmb 2007-04-12 04:36PM | 0 recs

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Joe Biden: "You can't walk into a 7-11 without seeing an Indian behind the counter!"

by adamterando 2007-04-12 06:12PM | 0 recs

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The gotcha posts are so aggravating.

by aiko 2007-04-12 04:44PM | 0 recs

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it's a fast-moving, live media where we want frontpagers to jump on a candidate that is veering away from the progressive movement. They jumped the gun on this, but that happens in blogs. The anti-OBama posters were gleeful about a supposed course-change from Obama. What do you expect?

There are three frontrunners and the only thing the netroots seem to agree on is the unacceptability of Hillary. Sometimes a watchful eye on a candidacy is motivated by a genuine concern for the progressive movement, and not political hackery.

by alarabi7 2007-04-12 08:49PM | 0 recs

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Good points.

But I resent the the tactics and vitriol. You are right, he may not be as progressive as they want him to be. However, I think he deserves more credit for his past actions and votes. They should count as proof of his progressive roots.

by aiko 2007-04-13 06:00AM | 0 recs