The AP is reporting that yesterday an agreement was reached on today's roll call vote.

Behind the scenes Tuesday, the Obama and Clinton camps struck a tentative deal that would allow some states to cast votes in a roll call before somebody -- possibly Clinton herself -- cuts short the tally and asks the convention to nominate Obama by unanimous consent.

DemConWatch elaborates, per an Obama conference call this morning.

A joint statement from Alice Germond and the Obama and Clinton campaigns was sent to the state delegation chairs last night about today's process.

They say that vote tally sheets have been distributed to the state chairs, and they will pass them out to the delegates. They will be reviewing them at the state breakfasts this morning. From 3 - 5 MT this afternoon, the nomination and roll call process will occur.

There will be speeches nominating Clinton first, Obama second: Clinton will have two seconds to her nomination, and Obama will have three. There should be about 30 minutes of speeches, the tally sheets will be submitted, and then there will be a state roll call, with the totals for each candidate being announced by the state chairs.

We should know more after the 1pm delegates meeting. I'm going to try to ascertain the status of the second petition Hillary delegates were circulating yesterday.

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Lanny Davis, clearly a strong supporter of Hillary and Bill Clinton is on record saying that he was opposed to having a roll call - but that the ultimate choice to do so was good because --- it will show how marginal are the delegates who won't vote for Obama.

Here's the quote:

"I was on record saying I didn't think this was a good idea, because I was worried about the PUMA [Party Unity My Ass] supporters, people who are indifferent to a McCain presidency and are only driven by anger, which is not to criticize them, that is a genuine emotion," Lanny Davis, one of Clinton's more vocal supporters, told the Huffington Post. "That is reality and I thought that giving her a roll call vote would be destructive and counterproductive at the convention, because it is impossible to control the way the media would cover it. The most vocal Obama critics would be surround by 50 television cameras and be given their 50 seconds of fame."

It turned out, Davis went on, "that I had less faith then my candidate and Sen. Obama... The compromise they have just announced pulls off the exact solution that allows people to cast their votes and allows people like me to separate ourselves from the five percent of folks who weren't going to support Obama no matter what."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/15 In short, don't expect a lot of votes for Clinton at the roll call. BTW, when do you think the msm will start reporting that Ron Paul is holding a counter-convention that will be almost as large as the Republican convention?  http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/22/paul-casts-a-larger-shadow-convention

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Fine. Fair enough. I saw the pros and cons of both sides of the argument but in the end I think it makes little difference either way in the big scheme of things. But Clinton supporters had better not get pissy if Hillary gets fewer delegates in the official tally than she actually earned.

Oh, and to kill another fallacy, the Clinton camp specifically stated they did not want the keynote address.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised in the least for this scenario to take place:

"It is possible that Sen. Clinton, having had her name submitted, would use the occasion to release her delegates to Obama; depending on how the roll call is staged, Clinton's released delegates could put Obama over the top."

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch ives/2008/08/a_little_bit_more_expositio n.php

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Hillary Clinton's New York Office denies the report from the New York Daily News that she does not want her name in nomination. The New York Daily News story cites no named sources, and her office confirmed the story is not true.

You may not like our friend Alegre, but she checks her facts, and she contacted Hillary's New York office.

A contact who met with Hillary in San Francisco yesterday (Thursday) who said this:

She talked about her name being put into nomination and she said that she wanted her voters to be heard and for her delegates to have the experience of what a real convention is.  She said that by doing this and by having a roll call that it would help unify the party.

As Alegre says "Think about it - after all she's been through in this campaign, does anyone really think she'd leak this monumental story to a paper like the Daily News?  It's laughable!"

Obama's supporters do him no favors by such divisive tactics as denying her a simple symbolic roll call vote, or spreading rumors in order to quash one. Obama is better than this, his supporters should follow suit.

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Two things:

#1 - The idea that the DNC might omit a roll call at the convention seems extremely undemocratic to me.

I thought this was nothing more than a rumor, but it came up today at the "unity" for money meeting at the Mayflower.

Marc Ambinder mentions it here in his column:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch ives/2008/06/after_the_press_leaves_some _ed_1.php

A question to obama was whether or not he would accept a roll call vote at the Convention.  

His response was they are negotiating this!

Huh?

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