CNN/WMUR NH poll: Tied and 13 back

These poll numbers (via email) are from semi-post-Iowa, during the night of Jan 4th and on Jan 5th, but it should be noted that only 52% of these persons polled have 'definitely decided who to vote for' on Jan 8th.

Democrats
               Now      Dec
Clinton        33       34
Obama          33       30 
Edwards        20       17
Richardson      4  
Kucinich        2 
All tied up, Obama should get a bit more of a bump, but it won't be Kerry-like. Obama just doesn't have the soft support that Kerry did in '04, ready to flock back to him, but instead has to win over supporters for the first time-- in 4 days. I expect that this above could closely reflect the final numbers. There are some interesting questions, first, asked who best represents "your values":
Obama           32
Clinton         28
Edwards         22
This is Edwards strongest card in all the questions, but it's not been a strong enough candidate narrative to become part of the overall campaign narrative. Next, who has the 'right experience to be President?'
Clinton         46
Obama           14
Edwards         13
Richardson       7
Clearly, Obama has not really changed the dynamic here even after Iowa, but as we'll see below, this question isn't the deciding factor either. Next, the 'most inspiring?'
Obama           60
Clinton         18
Edwards         13
Obama rules the world here. If I had to figure out a strategy for Clinton to go 'negative' on Obama, it would start with providing this mantle as given and then dismantle it as vacuous before their eyes. Next, the 'most likely to bring needed change to U.S.?'
Obama           41
Clinton         28
Edwards         16
Obama took the 'change' factor into his campaign early, and has led here ever since. Clinton, to me, looks sorta silly with the 'change' emphasis-- it plays into Obama's strength. Next, what is 'more important for your vote?'
Change          61
Experience      29
Clearly, this is the Edwards + Obama combo against Clinton working. Next, who has the 'best chance of beating the Republican nominee?'
              Now         Dec

Clinton       36          45
Obama         35          22
Edwards       12          16
That is really hurting Edwards, but for Obama, its a real breakthrough that he's now thought of as electable as Clinton-- an Iowa win is what made that happen. Now, for the Republicans:
Republicans     Now    Dec

McCain          33     29
Romney          27     29
Giuliani        14     12
Huckabee        11     10
Paul             9 
Hunter           1 
Thompson         1 
I think McCain will win, but Romney is celebrating his first victory tonight, from Wyoming. If McCain doesn't capture enough of the Independent vote from Obama, then he'll lose his frontrunner opportunity. Even a second by Romney is not going to be disastrous. There is little doubt that, at least on the Republican side and maybe also on the Democratic side, this is going to come down to a battle of delegates.

Update [2008-1-5 19:1:7 by Jerome Armstrong]: The Clinton team sends out a presser mocking Obama a bit, titled 'Where is the Bounce'?

Two polls that had the race within a few points before the Iowa caucuses have the race tied after the Iowa caucuses.

In today's CNN/WMUR poll, Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama are tied at 33 percent - their last two polls had Hillary up 4 points and before that had Hillary down 2 points, so there is no statistically significant change in their numbers before and after the Iowa caucuses.

And the Concord Monitor is out as well today with a poll showing the race at 33 percent for Hillary Clinton, 34 percent for Barack Obama and 23 percent for John Edwards – exactly the same margin as before Iowa.

Contrast that with the 17 points John Kerry gained in 2004 in the Boston Globe poll, which catapulted him from a 17-point deficit to a 20-point lead in New Hampshire after the Iowa caucuses. Or with the 7 points Al Gore gained in 2000 in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, increasing his lead in New Hampshire from 5 points to 18 points.

New Hampshire voters are fiercely independent. They will make their own decisions about who to support.

Here's the Concord Monitor poll showing an Obama 34/ Clinton 33/ Edwards 23/ Richardson 4 race. That's Edwards highest number thus far. He needs to break 20, I think, in the final NH result, to maintain viability. Richardson will likely be able to go through Nevada, where he will have to break out or fold.

There's more...

New Hampshire Independent vote

There are many Independent voters in New Hampshire that are to individually vote in either the Democratic or Republican primary, and collectively, they have swung elections. In 2000, for instance, they swung away from Bradley and toward McCain. The result was Gore effectively securing the nomination, and Bush being badly wounded. In 2008, with both parties battling for the nomination, the contest for the independent vote will be strong. The recent Hart polling broke down who the Indy's are leaning toward, here's their results:

Romney       19.5
Clinton      16.5
Obama        12
McCain        8
Edwards       7.5
Giuliani      7
Richardson    6
Thompson      4
Other         4
Undecided     14.5

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