Would Barack have voted for AUMF? What about Iran?

A short while back Chris Matthews, yet again, implied that the liberal left all hate Hillary Clinton because of her AUMF vote, and Congressman Joe Sestak was on speaking for Hillary.  The retired admiral rightly pointed out at the time that it's a lot easier to say what you would have done if you weren't actually in office at the time.  Recently Obama himself had to face questioning on this very point from Tim Russert on Meet the Press.  Here is the quote Russert used:

In July of `04, Barack Obama, "I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports.  What would I have done?  I don't know," in terms of how you would have voted on the war.  And then this:  "There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage." That was July of `04.  And this:  "I think" there's "some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war."

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Two Issues Show Why Edwards Is Our Best Candidate

The primary season that began way to soon in my estimate is winding down. We settled on a nominee way too early last time, and we are doomed to repeat that mistake and make it worse this time. I have argued consistently against states moving up and causing us to nominate our candidate sooner and sooner. If anything, I think states should move BACK, and give Americans more time to look at our candidates

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Wesley Clark -- Op-Ed response to Obama's attack

The New Hampshire Union Leader published the following Op-Ed written by General Wesley Clark this Sunday Morning:

Clinton's approach deters a rush to war

I am not allowed to post the entire Op-Ed. Please read the entire piece for a full picture. I post just excerpts below:

In the back and forth on Iran, one critical issue is being missed: which candidate will create the strategic shift necessary to deal with the challenge of Iran and help end the fighting in the Middle East? I believe that candidate is Hillary Rodham Clinton. snip

That is why I am so dismayed and disappointed about political attacks that misrepresent the senator's positions and betray a fundamental misunderstanding about how to conduct effective diplomacy in the 21st century.

In supporting legislation that seeks to exert diplomatic pressure on Iran, Senator Clinton is standing up to the Bush administration, which has recklessly refused to talk to Iran about its clandestine nuclear program. In voting for a non-binding resolution that urges the administration to designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, she is forcing the Bush administration to apply diplomatic pressure. This is the best way to call attention to the problem, empower US diplomacy, and warn Iran that it must cooperate.

There is nothing in the non-binding Kyl-Lieberman bill that would give President Bush any authority whatsoever to go to war.

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The issues we confront in the Mideast today are serious. Iran must not be allowed to build or acquire nuclear weapons. Neither must Iran be permitted to intervene with force, arms or terrorism inside Iraq. Actions like putting pressure and sanctions on the Revolutionary Guard are necessary and appropriate. And, as Senator Clinton has said, these actions must be combined with a far-reaching diplomatic initiative in the region that includes a dialogue with Iran.

This is not the time to rush to war, nor is it the time to do nothing. Rather, this is the time to work resolutely to avert the need to use force at some point in the future.

This Op-Ed is obviously a response to Barack Obama's Op-Ed attacking Hillary Clinton, published last week in the same newspaper, Union Leader.

I have great respect for Senator Dick Durbin, the senior Senator from Illinois.  He is Obama's mentor and biggest supporter.  I don't think that we can find a more honest arbiter on the issue of whether Obama's attack against Hillary Clinton is fair. He said that Obama is wrong about the Non-Binding "Sense of the Senate" resolution on Iran's Revolutionary Guard:

Durbin, 62, said Obama was wrong to upbraid Clinton for her Sept. 26 vote to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, a nonbinding resolution that Durbin also supported. Obama, who was campaigning in New Hampshire and missed the vote, said the language of the measure could potentially push the U.S. closer to war with Iran.

"It's rare that Barack and I disagree on an issue of this magnitude," Durbin, the second-highest ranking Senate Democrat, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television's "Political Capital with Al Hunt," scheduled to air today. "I have the same concerns that Barack Obama does about this administration and what they might do with the power that they have. But I don't think this resolution gives them a green light to do anything." 

Also of concern to me is the fact that Obama skipped the vote.  Ninety-eight Senators were present for this vote. If Senator Obama believed the measure was as dangerous as he says, wouldn’t he have had some obligation to stand up, speak out, and fight against it?  Obama's excuse for being absent was:

"This is one of the problems with running for president," Obama said. "You can't always anticipate which votes are which, but I put out a statement at the time stating that this was a bad idea and that I would have voted against it."

Obama blamed scheduling for the missed vote.

"If you're in New Hampshire, then it's hard to get back," he said.

But, Senator Joe Biden says differently:

"I wonder why he wasn't there to vote," Biden said. "We all knew that this vote was coming up."

I also want to bring attention to the fact that Obama co-sponsored the following BINDING bill:
The "Iran Counter-Proliferation Act of 2007," which Obama cosponsored on April 24, 2007, states clearly that:

"The Secretary of State should designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as a Foreign Terrorist Organization under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1189) and the Secretary of the Treasury should place the Iranian Revolutionary Guards on the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists under Executive Order 13224 (66 Fed. Reg. 186; relating to blocking property and prohibiting transactions with persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support terrorism)."

Why did Senator Obama co-sponsor an actual bill (not a non-binding resolution) designating Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a "terrorist organization" (the ""Iran Counter-Proliferation Act of 2007") if he did not think that the Revolutionary Guard were engaged in "terrorist" activity; and further, where were the Revolutionary Guards engaging in the "terrorist" activity Obama wished to stop?

Wouldn't Obama's binding bill give Bush a greater rationalization to attack Iran as Obama claims the non-binding resolution provides?

Based on the facts that I presented above, I would like to express my profound dissapointment with Obama's attack upon Senator Clinton.  I am in total agreement with Senator Durbin and General Clark that Obama is wrong in attacking Senator Clinton in this manner.

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This Lady is for turning

In response to Edward Heath's economic flip-flopping - in more demure Britain termed "U-turn" - Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher coined one of her most famous phrases: "You turn [U-turn] if you want to; the Lady's not for turning". If in no other issue, in steadfastness, the first female American President in waiting ought to emulate the first female British Prime Minister. For when it comes to Iran, this (American) Lady is very much for turning.

It seems as if at least the blogsphere has cast her final verdict on Hillary flip-flopping on Iran faster than Mitt Romney on abortion, and Timothy Garton Ash wrote a fictitious op-ed in The Guardian already last year about the repercussions of a President Hillary Clinton attacking Iran in March 2009. But hold on, aren't we doing Hillary injustice? Didn't Hillary join Jim Webb in co-sponsoring an amendment that would effectively check on the president's war powers? True, but she did that just a couple of days after distinguishing herself as the only Democratic frontrunner to support the bellicose Kyl-Lieberman Amendment.

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Kyl-Lieberman Iran Amendment Passes 76-22

Josh Marshall at TPM had an excellent video yesterday explaining the danger of the Kyl-Lieberman amendment that was debated on the floor of the senate yesterday. In a nutshell, the amendment would have represented a codification of the US's opposition to Iran as groundwork for military action against them in the future, just as was done with Iraq. Well, the amendment that passed today was modified from yesterday's version, Greg Sargent has a rundown of the changes to the language:

The bill's backers had tried to mollify its critics by taking out some of its most incendiary language, particularly the idea that "it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies."

Also removed from the measure was a provision "to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments" in support of the above. [...]

In the end, though, the amendment says this:

"the United States should designate Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps as a foreign terrorist organization...and place the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps on the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists."

Hillary Clinton voted for the amendment while Chris Dodd and Joe Biden opposed it. Barack Obama missed the vote. Explaining his vote, Dodd said:

"I cannot support the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran. To do so could give this President a green light to act recklessly and endanger US national security. We learned in the run up to the Iraq war that seemingly non-binding language passed by this Senate can have profound consequences. We need the president to use robust diplomacy to address concerns with Iran, not the language in this amendment that the president can point to if he decides to draw this country into another disastrous war of choice."..."We shouldn't repeat our mistakes and enable this President again."

Amazing that so many of our senators don't seem to have learned this lesson.

Update [2007-9-26 14:53:14 by Todd Beeton]: Roll call vote is HERE.

I'm glad to see Webb, Tester, McCaskill and Brown among the NO votes. As for Democrats that voted Yes, this is becoming a troubling trend:

Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD)
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ)
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

It's hard not to conclude that these otherwise solid Democrats vote with the administration on issues related to terrorism because their states were most impacted by 9/11.

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