Hey, Keith, Next Time Ask A Blogger
by Todd Beeton, Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:36:05 PM EDT
Last week, once all of California's votes had been counted, it started to become clear to the media that the delegate count out of California that had been universally accepted and reported (Clinton 207-Obama 163) had shifted 8 delegates in Obama's favor to Clinton 203-Obama 167, but it actually only thanks to the efforts of a tenacious blogger that the media's delegate projections have begun to be updated at all.
David Dayen at calitics (aka dday) wrote as early as February 15th that CA's votes had shifted to such a degree as to change the delegate allocation. Then on March 4th Dayen heralded the 203-167 number and on March 6th began to realize that the media was completely ignoring this result.
Being that I kind of don't pay attention to the national media's delegate counts, I hadn't realized that they were all getting California so very, very wrong, and in fact are about 800,000 votes off from the official tally. Apparently many news organizations predict that Clinton will reap 207 delegates from California, and Obama 163. MSNBC has this. Real Clear Politics has this. CBS has this. The New York Times has this. CNN has it as 204-161 with 5 to be decided. They're all simply wrong, and I know math is hard and everything, but get out your calculators, people.
So Dayen began a campaign to enlighten the media, e-mailing The AP and following the progress as slowly but surely the delegate counters caught up, although the WaPo got a piece of Dayen's mind last Friday for writing up an incorrect delegate margin. To his credit, Keith covered the subject of the delayed delegate shift (more than 30 days after CA voted) on Countdown last night but since he asked NBC News's delegate count guy, he really didn't get quite a complete answer.
Keith Olbermann: And in California, there's a shift in the delegate count there more than a month after the vote during Super Tuesday?Chuck Todd: California, because they have all this early voting and these mail-in ballots, they notoriously take a long time to count everything, it always take a while...And what happened was some vote came in and there were some places that Senator Clinton, that we had thought she would win with 63% in some congressional districts, turned out she only won with 62% and that meant an extra delegate for Obama, it happened in a couple of those districts, overall he netted 4 there.
That's not to say Dayen's efforts have gone entirely without notice in the MSM. Of all things, a Wall St. Journal.com blog picked the story up and gave Dayen credit where it was due.
David Dayen, who blogs at the site Calitics and serves on its editorial board, wrote last week that Sen. Clinton won 203 of the states 370 pledged delegates and not the commonly reported total of 207. He relied on updated vote totals from the state, based on late counts of absentee and provisional ballots. Later, when he noticed that several major news organizations still were showing Sen. Clinton with 207 delegates, he wrote a follow-up post explaining his calculation and exhorting, I know math is hard and everything, but get out your calculators, people.
Now, it should be noted that the CA results won't be officially certified until Saturday, which may explain why the media was late to the party but in this primary when shifts in vote counts and delegate counts are a part of the ongoing "who's winning" narrative, perhaps it's not too much to ask that the media that is so fond of shaping that narrative should have the most updated numbers at all times. And the media outlets seem to agree. Check this out again from the wsj post:
On Monday, some news organizations were updating their totals. Earlier in the day, CNN showed Sen. Clinton up 204-161, with five delegates unallocated. A spokeswoman told me the site was waiting for California to certify its results before updating, but by this afternoon, the sites California results page was in line with Mr. Dayens 203-167 margin. The New York Timess page for California results shows the 207-163 result, but a page listing delegate totals for each state showed the 203-167 margin. NBC and CBS still showed the 207-163 margin. An inquiry to New York Times polling editor Janet Elder wasnt returned. An NBC spokesman told me, Apparently, there are discrepancies between the state count and the individual county tallies. Kathy Frankovic, director of surveys for CBS News, told me, delegate allocation is a work in progress. (UPDATE: Ms. Frankovic told me later Monday that CBS would update its totals to reflect the 203-167 margin. Thanks for alerting us to the problem, she said.)
Which is really just a long way of saying "great work, Dave" and to point out what an invaluable resource the local blogs are in this unprecedented nomination process, not only to us in the blogosphere -- hopefully you all are reading them (see links below and to the left) as the primary contests move from state to state -- but now, hopefully, the MSM is learning the value in them as well so that, perhaps next time Keith needs an authority on local delegate counts, he might actually ask a blogger.






