Um, McCain said that Hamas wants Obama to win.  That qualifies as "going negative" in my book.  Pretty soon he'll say bin Laden wants the same.

Great diary

   are not the only ones with bruised feelings and anger. You guys have written some pretty shitty diaries about him and us. Comments like cultists and Kool-Aid drinkers slip out of your memory?

  Get over it or screw yourself and family by voting for McCain...that's what that vote would do.

As a Democrat and Obama supporter, I'm glad you wrote this -- you say some things that need to be heard.

As someone who's worked a lot of primaries and NEVER until this election voted for the eventual nominee (and even this time I only did because Edwards pulled out before California), I don't think ANYONE should expect you to either "just get over" or "deal with it" overnight, especially while your candidate is still in the race.

Look, I've sat on enough campaign floors trying to keep tears off industrial carpet to ever mock or belittle another Democrat for fighting the good fight for their candidate.  (A Republican is fair game -- it's hypocritical, but true -- I shed no tears for their losses.)

I do hope, when the dust finally settles, I find my Democratic friends who backed Clinton along side those of us who backed Edwards and Richardson and Dodd and Gravel working to make sure we don't have to watch McCain take the oath of office.  But personally I don't expect to find them here tomorrow anymore than I was ready to work for Obama until after Edwards was well and truly out of it and I'd had my sulking mourn.

The only thing that I can't understand and have NEVER understood is how anyone who supports Barack or Hillary can imagine voting for McCain instead of our nominee.  There's no common ground there -- I just can't see it.

In an earlier diary about the firestorm the hardworking white comment has caused I just called a nigger in spanish (although its quite obvious even if you do not speak spanish) by "latinfighter" who is pretending to be hispanic to cause controversy. I am new here posting but have been reading for quite some time now.

I would like to ask the nicest way possible that the administrators take a look at these offensive comments and take into consideration that this person is impersonating a latino and talking all sort of nonsense (making it all the more obvious).

I am sorry I went off topic but this is completely out of line.

Please take a look into these comments.

I am sorry, but am deeply offended somebody would pose as a latino to cause conflict and spread hate among progressives. Shameful.

Thanks guys!

Look, I don't know if this comment will be considered "nice" or not.

I would guess from the way your diary is worded, that in time, you will decide to vote for Obama if he is the nominee.  I might be wrong, but that is my hunch.

I was never a fan of Bill Clinton.  I loathe the DLC.  I find many of the advisors that Clinton surrounded himself with to be repugnant.

But, dammit, I voted for the man twice.  What was I going to do, vote for Bush or Dole?  Neglect my duty and stay home?

I don't regret it.  I criticized him openly and wrote letters and made phone calls when his initiatives did not match with my values.

I'm asking you to consider doing the same thing for Obama.   One of the things I hate about our politics is that many of us focus on the election every four years and then drop the ball after the election is over.

You can believe me, that I will be hounding the Obama administration when some of their policies (and I fully expect this) go against what I believe in.

But there is no question that I'm going to give him my vote.

And for people on other threads that are threatening to vote for McCrankyPants, I've got to say, I might have had a few sips of Obama's Kool-Aid, but you all must be smoking something much stronger than that.

What the "deal with it" diarists forget is that not only do a lot of us not like Barack Obama: it is not just sour grapes. There are legitimate, policy-implicated reasons that many of us find troubling about him. Health care is an example.

Then please take 10 minutes and actually listen to him talk about his plan, mandates, how he expects to go about the reform, and how he views the ultimate plan which will get passed.  I think you may find that he's not as far off as you may imagine.  It is one thing to prefer Clinton's, but it is quite another to think Obama's approach is unacceptable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjsRcIfMj -E&feature=related

This election is too important, the stakes too high to sit out or to vote for McCain.

Supreme Court decisions have real life consequences, people are dying in Iraq,  and torture is not an American value.

There is a real foreclosure crises. I see it everyday in my practice.

I have said it before, I will say it again, Senator Clinton is tough as nails, doesn't whine and in the end a good Democrat.  She says she will work for the nominee (as has Barack) and I will take her at her word. I hope  her supporters follow her example.

As to Obama supporters, now is the time to remember the words of Lincoln

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

Not all voters are going to be blaming the Clintons' for recent failures on the Hill.

Ok, I love Obama.  Take your time :)

Like most of the political junkies around here, I've rooted fore more campaigns that were ultimately unsuccessful than succesful over the years.  So I certainly understand how difficult it can be to witness a candidate that you perceive as the best qualified lose out to someone else.  "Get over it" is not a mature response to that kind of situation, no matter how hot tempers can run during the silly season.  

For what it's worth, this Obama supporter is not in a rush to demand that Senator Clinton exit the race or that her supporters immediately embrace Senator Obama.  I would hope, however, that we can start to focus again on all of the similarities and shared goals that both Obama and Clinton value.  At the end of the day, they are both good Democrats who care about their party and their country.  And I would hope that anyone that supported Senator Clinton would ultimately decide to help get OBama elected if and when he does win the nomination.  

Don't let a few Obama supporters get you down. Anytime there's a contest there will be people on the winning side who win without grace. It would be true either way. Similarly there are sore losers on the Clinton side and would be on the Obama side. But they do not represent most of us. And they do not represent the best of our respective candidates.

I will call out the folks who act as if the race were tied, or seem to think that Obama should drop out for some reason. But people who are genuine Clinton supporters, who felt inspired and empowered by her candidacy, who felt that this time they had found someone who spoke to them, and for them - to these people I am profoundly sympathetic. And as you seem to be among them, take as long as you want to "get over it," or don't get over it at all.

Please do remember that there are people on the Obama side who feel equally inspired by their candidate; there was no way out of this fight that didn't involve some mourning. And I hope you will be open to seeking in him what it is that others have found so compelling, as I also hope that Obama supporters will do for Clinton.

In the end, we're all (or almost all) on the same side. So take your time and we'll all be in this together come the fall.

it ain't over until it's over...Clinton is still campaigning, voters are still voting.

Cool diary.  

And most loyal people are the ones most having as allies.  

that 90% of the posters who just can't stop trashing the other side at this point are Republican trolls.  This is the open internet and a very well known site.  I believe this site in particular has been infected with parasites feeding on the fierce loyalties and opinions on both sides.  
They pose as supporters from both sides, use multiple identities, post with the intent of stirring up outrage and we all have fallen for it at one time or another.  
The only way to combat them is to grit one's teeth and NOT FEED THE TROLL.  Whenever someone writes something obnoxious or destructive, when your feelings are hurt, from this point forward you have to recognize that as coming from a troll.
Eventually, if they are ignored and called out enough the assholes will go back to wet dreaming about Ann Coulter and leave us alone.  Every time you engage one of them, they get their rocks off.  

Try to imagine some Young Republican giggling every time you read something that offends you.

if someone really is a disaffected Democrat upset with the process, the outcome or their fellow Democrats they would offer up plausible solutions, genuine calls for  positive new direction or just stop coming around.  Crabbing and rehashing past mistakes and insults gets all of us nowhere.

Arkansas--well said. What you wrote sounds very much like something I would have written if my candidate had lost an epic battle like this. thanks for the candor and its absolutely your prerogative to deal however you want to so I hope you find something to like in Obama's campaign this fall.

You're absolutely right. Take your time.

Losing sucks. And losing when you've invested a huge piece of your soul into a campaign is awful. Being hurt, sad, angry, or, in fact, any other emotion is both understandable and normal.

There's a lot going on around here at present, and a lot of different reactions and emotions. There's been a lot of lashing out at Obama, his supporters, the system, and anything else close by. Some Obama supporters are not handling being the target of this well. Not everyone is born with an empathy gene, and I suspect that there are some people here who haven't yet had a whole lot of experience being on the losing end of a campaign.

All of this is obvious to you I know, and at this point I don't know why I'm writing this comment except that I've gotten this far so I might as well finish it. I wish you well, and healing, and comfort, and to have a good day soon. I really do.

and last time I looked at the GE demos and cohorts, the Obama supporters will need all the help they can get from Hillary supporters.  

The assumption that all Democrats should be good Democrats and support whoever is the nominee is absolutist thinking. ("either for me or against me..") It is inherently dishonest. If one didn't support Obama and his policies, then why should it be assumed the support will be there in November?  What ever happened to still supporting your beliefs by writing in for Hillary? Let McCain get elected? -- He'll die in office!

Arguably, at this point, if Obama supporters want to win the GE, then its Hillary supporters who are in a position to dictate to Obama supporters.

IMO, start with offering Hillary the VP slot on the ticket.

Deal with it.

This is sour grapes.
The fact that you praise McCain for being nice to Obama shows that you are not even a serious political watcher and you just wanted to take a cheap shot at Obama. To base everything on a health care plan, you do not even know if it's going to pass in the next two terms when most of their platform is pretty similar, yeah right, we buy it.

This Obama you see now is essentially the same Obama from 2006 who compromised at times and campaigned with the likes of Lieberman. Whatever flaws and good points he had, he is essentially the same now.

This is sour grapes, not something you suddenly found in Obama.

The problem with these communities is that everyone wants to tell the other candidates' supporters how to act, but you can't control every single person. Most Obama supporters are firmly behind Obama's conciliatory message and  have no intention of running Hillary supporters through the mud. There are a few vindictive people out there who make a big splash. Ignore them.

As an Obama supporter, Clinton has done a lot of things that made me mad this primary season. Big deal, I'm sure I have a huge cognitive dissonance and would be upset with Obama were I a Clinton supporter. That's why I promised myself I'd still vote Clinton in the fall if she won the nomination.

This election is WAY too important to be decided on Hillary supporters reconciling with Obama supporters. No matter how much some people might grate on us, we have to realize this is election effects the whole world, we can't throw our vote away on personal grudges. We can't stay in Iraq for 100 years. We can't afford more tax cuts. We can't have McCain nominating two supreme court justices. We need better health care. We need to elect the democratic nominee, period.