MyDD :: Still Can't Deliver

Still Can't Deliver

by tofriends, Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:17:25 PM EST

With all the cha-ching that obama has raised, more than any other candidate in campaign history, with throngs of people volunteering for "the one", with an infatuated media on his side, "the one" can't slaughter his opponent. Unbelievable. It really is pathetic and hilarious. And as I write this, as I sit out in my yard on a wonderful and warm california afternoon, I'm sending good vibrations out to Mrs. Clinton who has become everything obama can only dream of being: an amazing politician

Let me see, June is almost upon us and by this time Hillary, according to the msm and obama's calculations measured long ago, is not suppose to be around anymore. Instead, she is still out campaigning and has huge voter support. Aaaaahhh, this warm sun is so beautiful and so is Hillary.

I think I'll make another donation today, just to make my incredible day even more pleasurable.

I love democracy, I truly do.

Tags: biggest loser (all tags)

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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 4)

It's unbelievable that people are still writing crap like this, yet expect not to be treated as trolls.

Since when does someone have to 'slaughter' their opponent to be considered the victor? Many close matches are between two people who are roughly equal in strength and have gone on a long time, b/c one team is too good to simply fold up.

You'll be gone from this site in a week or two, when your reason for trolling is done.

by Lawyerish on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:20:54 PM EST

McSame lost 28% of yesterday (2.00 / 1)

really, without any opposition, McSame still lost 28% of the vote in Kentucky to Ron Paul and Huck.

Hell, Obama BEAT McSame in Kentucky by 68,000 votes (210K vs 142K), a state McSame is supposed to win.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:27:19 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 2)

lawyerish, think before you think, obama has impressed us all with his campaigning talents, and hillary has disappointed, but the reason why he can't close the deal is that there is no depth to the man as a politician. he is a senator. CASED CLOSED as they say in legal circles

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:29:27 PM EST
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ha (2.00 / 1)

And what has Hillary done besides being a Senator? Oh, I forgot; sitting on Wal-Mart's board of directors.

[ Donate to Barack Obama ]

by semiquaver on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:34:57 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

Actually, the reason he hasn't 'closed the deal' is that the match ain't over yet.

It's like when a football team is up by three touchdowns with a few minutes left in the 4th quarter of the game. The other team has practically zero chance of winning. But the game has to be played out by the rules anyways. That's what you are seeing here.

You are making assertions as if they were factual, and that's never the hallmark of a great argument.

by Lawyerish on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:35:26 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 2)

he is a senator

and she is....?

Besides the second-place candidate for the now resolved Democratic nomination, I mean.

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:36:17 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (none / 0)

sorry, i think i meant case closed

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:39:46 PM EST
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The question is...... (2.00 / 4)

Why can't she finish HIM off?

If she is supposedly such a vastly superior candidate....why does she trail Obama in the popular vote and by 160 pledged delegates?

BTW.....you act as if everything is honky-dory in the Clinton campaign.

If you hadn't noticed, she is $30 million in debt and only has $8 million in COH for the primary.

Yeh....she's really positioned to win in November, all right.....

by Deano963 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:42:25 PM EST
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Why didn't SHE close the deal? (2.00 / 3)

She had 20 point poll leads all throughout 2007.

She had the institutional support -- twice the superdelegate backing of all the other candidates combined.

She had a two-term President campaigning for her.

She had all the money in the world - more than any candidate in history save for Obama.

What happened? Why couldn't Hillary close the deal?

Why can't Obama close the deal? Because Hillary Clinton is a damn fine candidate in her own right - you don't demolish the Clintons, you beat them -- if you can.

Obama has done that - it's time you acknowledge that.

by zonk on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:12:40 PM EST
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Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (2.00 / 4)

As every day passes a few more Hillary supporters recognize it's over.

Some won't see it even though he's won the most pledged delegates.

When FL and MI are settled on May 31, some will say it wasn't fair, but some more will accept.

When the primaries are over on June 3, some will say on to the convention, but some more will accept.

When Hillary concedes in early June and endorses Obama, some will say she doesn't mean it, and it'll be decided at the convention, but many will accept.

When the convention ends with no drama, and Obama is still the nominee, most will have accepted that, but some will still not.

When Obama wins the election in November, most will cheer, but some will say he stole the Presidency from Hillary.

When Obama takes the oath of office on Jan. 20, 2009, some will cry tears of joy, but a lonely few will still not accept.

That's life.

John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.

by Travis Stark on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:39:59 PM EST
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Re: Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (1.00 / 6)

this voter won't see any of the above but a ballot in november with McCain's name on it:)

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:46:06 PM EST
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Re: Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (2.00 / 1)

So is it McCain's position on health care, Iraq and Iran, domestic spying, or Supreme Court nominations that you agree with? All of the above?

And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.

by thatpurplestuff on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:49:30 PM EST
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Re: Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (none / 0)

yeah, i think his ideas are pretty mainstream...like me:)

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:56:02 PM EST
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Re: Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (2.00 / 1)

If you agree with McCain on those issues, I'd seriously suggest rethinking your party affiliation. But then again, if you support Clinton you wouldn't agree with McCain on those issues. That must mean you're a troll, and I just wasted three sentences on you. Damn it, now four.

And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.

by thatpurplestuff on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:11:40 PM EST
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Re: Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (2.00 / 1)

How many "points" did you earn today??

Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!

by hootie4170 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:27:10 PM EST
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Re: Ignore it. Every day a few more see reality. (2.00 / 1)

Voting for McCain huh?

Nothing to see here folks. GOP troll at work.

Obama/Clark (still dreaming)

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:53:46 PM EST
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Hillary is formidable opponent (2.00 / 1)

Why does it surprise you ( as a Clinton supporter) that she is scoring some blows in the late rounds?

I don't get this reasoning by some of the Clintonites.

Obama/Clark (still dreaming)

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:44:21 PM EST
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Tags: biggest loser (2.00 / 1)

The irony, it hurts like rebar.

But another comedic diary. I assume it's comedy cause it insults Senator Obama's fans and calls a sitting Senator, "The one".

So rofl. Very good. I'm glad to see at least fifteen or sixteen of these today. I'm assuming last night was so great a victory, these were required.

Commissar: Canadian Gal; Proletariat Policemen: ragekage, Lord Hadrian. "For the Proletariat!"

by Lord Hadrian on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:20:55 PM EST

She's still running up debt too (2.00 / 3)

Hey, anyone can have a good time on a credit card.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:22:43 PM EST

Re: She's still running up debt too (none / 0)

Amazing, huh? Considering she's been outspent 3,4 or even 5 to 1...

There's a reason so many people still support Hillary Clinton. She got where she is without gimmicks; without crossovers and without money. She got here with basic Democratic support.

But I guess in this new world order, he with the most money wins. But, that sounds a bit too Republican, does it not?

by wblynch on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:40:46 PM EST
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She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (2.00 / 1)

Just what in the hell do you call her gas tax proposal?

by Deano963 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:44:28 PM EST
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Re: She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (none / 0)

It's a Tar Baby!

Look at it like this; McCain proposes a stupid gas tax holiday... it is a trap.

He knows the Democrats will criticize the plan and then he can nail us on the old 'Tax and Spend' meme.

Hillary instead says, 'Ok, let's do that but we'll make the (~~evil~~) OIL companies pay for it with a windfall profits tax'.

So, now we have McCain backing away from taxing the oil companies but he can't take back the 'holiday'.

In the end, Hillary has the most responsible plan and McCain has lost the issue.

It's actually brilliant politics.

by wblynch on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:12:59 PM EST
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Re: She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, it really worked for her didn't it? I mean now that she's the nominee she can point to that and say, yep, that's what really put me over the top.

"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Bill Clinton

by venician on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:40:24 PM EST
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Re: She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (none / 0)

Everything about your post was factually worng.

McCain NEVER proposed a tax on the oil comapnies to pay for the gas tax holiday. He would simply just add tot he deficit spending and destroy 600,000 jobs.

Hillary proposed taxing the oil company profits (which she WOULD NEVER get through the Senate right now) to pay for the holiday, which would still do nothing b/c the price of gas would simply rise agian to where it was before.

And it wasn't brilliant politics - the only two states that were stupid enough to believe her that it would do anything were WV and KY......it hurt her a lot in IN, NC and OR b/c most of those voters according to exit polls thought it was a bad idea.

by Deano963 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:52:51 PM EST
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Re: She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (none / 0)

Dude, I said Hillary out played McCain. I didn't say McCain proposed a oil company tax.

Please read more carefully. Your foot must not taste all that good?

by wblynch on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:24:16 PM EST
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Re: She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (none / 0)

Hillary outplayed McCain?

McCain is the presumptive nominee. Obama is "within reach of the nomination". Where is Hillary?

Actually she is right there with you - in Denialville.

by SunSon on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:19:42 PM EST
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Re: She got where she is w/out GIMMCIKS??? (none / 0)

McCain's the nominee. Hillary will be damn lucky to get VP after daying that Obama is not fit to be commnader-in-chief.

She didn't outplay ANYBODY, and it was sure as hell not a brilliant move. If it was, she would still be talking about it.

by Deano963 on Thu May 22, 2008 at 01:04:14 AM EST
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Re: She's still running up debt too (2.00 / 2)

Without money? Are you serious?

Hillary had $100 million before a single primary vote had been cast.

by Angry White Democrat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:19:22 PM EST
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Without money? (none / 0)

she raised and spent $200 million dollars.

a few of you guys are are ostriches.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:49:24 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

boys and girls, what you are witnessing is democracy in action. If you have a problem with it, then you don't belong here. I have not posted anything that is untrue. the facts hurt sometimes.

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:23:44 PM EST

....This is madness. (2.00 / 1)

Commissar: Canadian Gal; Proletariat Policemen: ragekage, Lord Hadrian. "For the Proletariat!"

by Lord Hadrian on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:26:11 PM EST
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MADNESS? (2.00 / 1)

Commissar: Canadian Gal; Proletariat Policemen: ragekage, Lord Hadrian. "For the Proletariat!"

by Lord Hadrian on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:26:21 PM EST
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THIS IS SPAAAAAAAAARRTTAAAAAAAAAAAAA (2.00 / 2)

Commissar: Canadian Gal; Proletariat Policemen: ragekage, Lord Hadrian. "For the Proletariat!"

by Lord Hadrian on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:26:35 PM EST
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This is GOP troll (2.00 / 2)

I didn't read the prior diaries before posting.

check them out. all negative all the time. Nothing even a single postive diary supporting hillary.

The last diary posted is based on the winger site Newsbusters

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:38:11 PM EST
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Re: This is GOP troll (none / 0)

Hey, maybe we should ask him for his receipt proving that he donated to Clinton.

If he didn't well that PROVES he is a troll.

by Why Not on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:41:01 PM EST
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Re: This is GOP troll (2.00 / 2)

or the receipt he got when he sold his bike and his X-Box

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:45:44 PM EST
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Hillary's supporters (2.00 / 1)

Even her supporters who post Obama hit diaries will sprinkle in pro-clinton diaries.

Anyone who only posts scores and scores of hit diaries and cites wingers sites is a troll.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:00:05 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's supporters (2.00 / 2)

He said upthread that he agrees with McCain on most issues, including domestic spying.

He's a GOOPer.

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:15:59 PM EST
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Re: This is GOP troll (2.00 / 2)

Are these guys/gals the best McAncient could come up with??

Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!

by hootie4170 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:28:53 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

Really, by Obama's calculations Clinton wasn't supposed to be around anymore? Care to back that up?

I know that the race was supposed to end by Super Tuesday, but I don't think that he said that...

by rfahey22 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:26:31 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (none / 0)

Nothing here hurts, and some of it isn't even a fact.

The only fact is that Hillary said it would all be over on Feb 6th, Obama did not and has not said the contest is or should be over. Just that he is likely to have the majority by the end of the process.

So aside from that, I agree and enjoy watching this democratic process run though to it's logical conclusion on June 3rd. At that point if Clinton has managed to convince 85% or more of the remaining superdelegates (and it will take that many)then she will be able to claim victory. I don't think it will happen, but I don't object to people holding out hope, as long as they are honest with themselves and do the right thing which is to support whichever democrat emerges from this process.

by Why Not on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:37:03 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (none / 0)

The only thing he can't deliver is a big plate of steamin' reality to HIllary Clinton. Because she won't answer the door.

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:25:57 PM EST

Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

I think I'll make another donation today, just to make my incredible day even more pleasurable

You do that. If you've got a spare twenty million lying around the house, you could pay off her debts.

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:27:08 PM EST

Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

only an obam supporter would take pleasure in a rival's debt...debt may be working for her in some strange way...

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:30:53 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

Pleasure? Just pointing out a fact.

Of course I know facts cause extreme displeasure to Hillary's fantasy brigades.

Her debt did wonders for her in Oregon and North Carolina, didn't it? Oh yeah, those states don't count because..... Well, I can't imagine, but I'm sure you have some 'reason' rattling around in your noggin.

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:34:55 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

make a donation to her campaign and you will convince me that there is no glee on your part for her debt!!!

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:36:34 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

why would I want to--
A) send good money after bad?

B) convince you of anything?

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:38:29 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (1.50 / 2)

Oregon did not count because of all the tree huggers out there. the kids are so impressionable...

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:43:29 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

You are a true Clintonite.

Well, half a one.

You still have to sneeringly discount North Carolina.

Then you'll get your wings

by BlueinColorado on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:44:49 PM EST
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i think s/he may be a spoof (none / 0)

i kind of like the spoofery.

by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:15:19 PM EST
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bad snark? (2.00 / 1)

by Slim Tyranny on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:46:24 PM EST
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Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 2)

I love democracy, I truly do.

Me too, especially now that Obama has a majority of the pledged delegates!

by animated on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:28:36 PM EST

Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

Seriously, wasn't Sen. Clinton the inevitable nominee with the fundraising apparatus, a huge lead in donors, and President Clinton behind her?

I love democracy!

And, why hasn't been she been able to close the deal?

United we stand, divided we fall.

by mefeck on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:30:52 PM EST

hmmmm... (2.00 / 1)

So many ways to respond to this inanity. Let's go alphabetically:

Amazement. Bad language. Concern. Disdain. Escalation. FAIL jpegs. Guffaws. Hysterical laughter. Ignore it. Jeering. Kidding. Laughter. Mockery. Nastiness. Opinion. Perverse pleasure. Queries into sanity. Raised eyebrows. Scorn. "Troll". Understatement (i.e. snark). Viciousness. Wonderment. Xeroxed hope. Yelling. Zero ratings.

by Slim Tyranny on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:45:48 PM EST

Re: hmmmm... (none / 0)

and with all of your respect for me Slim, you wan't me to support your candidate? Naaah!

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:48:57 PM EST
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well OBVIOUSLY (2.00 / 2)

your decision regarding a presidential election should definitely ride on how you're treated by anonymous internet commenters! God forbid you based on the decision on policy positions and commitment to Democratic principles!

I love how people will allow blog comments to turn them off to candidates. WOW.

by Slim Tyranny on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:51:03 PM EST
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Re: well OBVIOUSLY (none / 0)

I think you and obama have a lot in common, you're both out of touch...that's how I base my decisions...

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:57:56 PM EST
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We do have a lot in common (2.00 / 1)

We're both brilliant lawyers, for one. Of course, he's more brilliant, but I'm okay with that.

Your decisions are clearly based on falsehoods and irrationality. Wish I could help you.

by Slim Tyranny on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:05:09 PM EST
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WHY DIDNT HILLARY DELIVER IN OREGON? (2.00 / 1)

Hillary's supporters still had plenty of hope to make it a race. Yet she still lose OR big.

by Pravin on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:01:06 PM EST

Re: Still Can't Deliver (2.00 / 1)

"I think I'll make another donation today"?

"But the number collected is actually closer to $21 million and the release also neglected to mention that she spent $28.9 million, nearly $8 million more than she took in. She used personal loans to make up part of the difference. She also delayed payments to consultants. Including the $9.5 million in unpaid bills from April, she owes consultants and other vendors $19.5 million. Not to mention the total $11.4 million she has loaned herself."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washingt on/2008/05/clintondebt.html

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:14:14 PM EST

New Troll Diary on MyDD (none / 0)

rec it up rec it up!

by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:18:03 PM EST

Re: New Troll Diary on MyDD (none / 0)

Can someone post who rec'd this diary.

"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Bill Clinton

by venician on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:43:07 PM EST
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the people you'd expect (none / 0)

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by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:13:43 PM EST
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Why can't HILLARY close the deal? (none / 0)

Perhaps the only reason Obama can't "close the deal" is because the other candidate refuses to drop out despite there being ZERO chance she can win without several magical things (sure, we'll pretend he was on the MI ballot! All those super-ds he's been getting will magically change their minds!) happening, and he has too much CLASS to ask her the question- how DO you plan to win a general election when you can't win a primary?

John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.

by ihaveseenenough on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:57:49 PM EST

If you lose to such a loser... (none / 0)

...what does that make you?

Pretty sad "logic" at play.

by Pragmatic Left on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:54:36 PM EST

Re: If you lose to such a loser... (none / 0)

too many losers supporting obama

by tofriends on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:58:43 PM EST
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Re: If you lose to such a loser... (none / 0)

That's the best kind of loss... you know, the kind where you win.

by Pragmatic Left on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:50:14 PM EST
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