Change I Don't Believe He Believes In

OK, politicians are ambitious, they want more and more power.  Also, some of them actually believe in something.  And this is the bottom line problem with Senator Obama.  

He doesn't believe any of it.  He gave his famous 2002 speech to an ultra-liberal anti-war crowd in an ultra-liberal district.  How much did he really care?  Not at all, as we can see by the absolute lack of evidence that he ever lifted a finger after that, or took any chances based on his convictions.  That's why it's been hard to hang Ayers around his neck.  He didn't believe that stuff, either.  Just at that moment in his career, Ayers' crowd had some political juice and he wanted it.  Same with Wright.  He needed the large black church at that time, and he took his chances staying too long because at least it proved he wasn't a Muslim.   And that's why we have no failures we can point to, like Hillary's 1992 Health Care.  He's never stuck his neck out far enough for a cause -- because he doesn't care about anything enough to risk it.  

Look at him:  he's selling two contradictory products to two different markets.  There's the hopey-changey-uniter post-partisan rock-star thing.  That Obama praises Reagan, doesn't support true universal health care, takes waffley, mild stances on liberal issues, acts like royalty, doesn't speak up against months of horrible misogyny, in fact is fine playin' it.    
Then there's the Wet Dream of the Progressive Elite guy.  That Obama quietly acts like he's a stealth ultra-progressive and has all those Old Loser Boyz - Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, fawning and strong-arming in his name.  They'll finally have their Party/party, fuck the rubes and angry shrews.  

Surprise! He doesn't care about the left either.  So, a couple of many, many examples:

NO TRUE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT WOULD HAVE MAILED HARRY & LOUISE FLYERS OUT.  PERIOD.  THE END.

OK, so what's new?  Well, the "sweetie" thing.  Oh, it's such a teeny little thing you say, get a life.  But I raise it not as a critique, but because it's a perfect tell.  NO TRUE LIFE-LONG PROGRESSIVE MAN (NOT TO MENTION A DIGNIFIED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE) WOULD DREAM OF CALLING A STRANGER, A WOMAN, A FACTORY WORKER, A REPORTER, "SWEETIE."  AND THINK THAT ADMITTING "IT'S A BAD HABIT" WORKS AS AN APOLOGY.
It reveals him as someone who has not thought about these issues, does not care, hasn't long since unlearned the locker-room macaca language of his youth, or, worse yet, thinks it's perfectly fine, women should be flattered.  

I don't count on him for a second to do anything but continue on this path.  To believe in nothing but his own power.  

So, no, I won't be voting for him.  WHAT WOULD I BE VOTING FOR?  



Display:


Where is the button (2.00 / 5)

to TR a diary?


John McCain wants to make abortion illegal
by Lost Thought on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:11:45 PM EST

Re: Where is the button (2.00 / 2)

Been waiting for that on DK for years...


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:13:44 PM EST
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Re: Where is the button (1.16 / 6)

Nice to know where you got your fine sensibilities.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:21:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I hit the button...... (2.00 / 2)

Great diary.  Recommended.


by Tolstoy on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:24:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I hit the button...... (2.00 / 1)

Great diary.  Recommended.


by Tolstoy on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:25:20 PM EST
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Not another divisive diary !! (none / 0)

How divisive diaries can Clinton supporters post?


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:16:11 PM EST
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Re: Not another divisive diary !! (1.09 / 11)

Hey, this is what I actually, really, honestly, truly, sincerely believe.
Model yourself on your candidate and brush it off like dandruff if you like.
On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:21:21 PM EST
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Re: Not another divisive diary !! (2.00 / 1)

Hide-rated, just like the rest of your comments.

Support the Democrat or leave.  Jerome's rules.  Period.


UNITY!
by The Great Gatsby on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:37:25 PM EST
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Re: Not another divisive diary !! (2.00 / 1)

I support the real democrat, the proven and loyal democrat, Hillary Clinton.

Barak "all things to all people" Obama can kiss it.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:06:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I didn't say it was dishonest (2.00 / 1)

i said it was divisive.

you can't bait me with a straw man.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:46:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Not another divisive diary !! (1.66 / 3)

Please e-mail me - i think readers at NoQ would love to see this.  susanunpc at gmail dot com


by susanhu on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:05:10 PM EST
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Re: Not another divisive diary !! (2.00 / 1)

I bet they would.


by upstate girl on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:17:55 PM EST
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Re: Not another divisive diary !! (none / 0)

Just because you believe in something, doesn't make it a true fact.

If I really thought it was necessary, I could write a very similar dairy regarding Clinton - I bet you could too. ;-)

Reagan was right on some things.
Clinton is right on many things.
Obama sees what's right in all people.
People see good in Obama.

Sweetie!


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:15:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Where is the button (1.50 / 4)

Like I said.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:18:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Stevens and Ginsberg are likely to retire within the next four years.


by Pat Flatley on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:12:49 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (1.14 / 7)

Throwing the Supreme Court at us straight from the
"Let's Shame and ScareThose Sore Irrational Losers"  chapter of the Obama Blogger Handbook isn't working.  Try something else.  I don't believe for a moment that he'll nominate liberal judges.
On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:15:59 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 1)

I'm just stating reality.  I'm not suggesting that you should be shamed.  And there's no evidence that Obama will not nominate liberal judges, particularly given the National Journal's ranking (most liberal senator) that will be tossed out by Republicans all summer and fall.


by Pat Flatley on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:19:38 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 1)

Do you believe he'll nominate Scalia/Alito clones?

Because that's what the only viable alternative will do.


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by mistersite on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:27:43 PM EST
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Obama Blogger Handbook.... (2.00 / 3)

ROFL


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:33:52 PM EST
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oops stopped reading when (2.00 / 3)

you decided to stop yelling.

Your diary does not lend itself to debate, discussion or rational conversation.  It is as if you are in a big aluminum room screaming at your distorted reflection.

peace out.


accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking
by Sychotic1 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:13:33 PM EST

Re: oops stopped reading when (1.25 / 8)

Deep.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:18:06 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Hmmmm - so sweetie and H&L fliers? I think both campaigns have done worse than that....


by Falsehood on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:14:29 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (1.40 / 5)

I do not need a giant catalogue,  you surely get the point.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:17:36 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

I think one was a mistake he acknowledged, and I didn't like he H&L type fliers. I didn't like Clinton stuff as well. I don't think these two examples support your point.


by Falsehood on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:26:31 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 2)

someone is abusing their TR, so i am uprating you.


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:36:41 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (1.00 / 1)

I agree that I was abusing the HR, which I just realized doesn't apply to these cases.  Done doing that.

But I will troll-rate the comment of anyone who says they're not voting for a/the Democrat.  This diary is trash.


UNITY!
by The Great Gatsby on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:40:25 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (1.33 / 3)

Then you dont deserve the right to troll rate.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:08:14 AM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Then don't vote for him.

Vote for Nader or McCain or Alan Keyes (he'll get back in eventually).

Just please shut-up about it.


Voting for John McCain is not God bless America.
by SFValues on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:22:15 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 1)

SF values still include respect for the first amendment, no?


by Caldonia on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:55:47 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Yes, with the right to tell someone to shut up included


by reggie23 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:35:45 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 1)

But they don't have to.  :)  Ain't America grand?


by Caldonia on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:41:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Lies, lies, and more lies from this one. (2.00 / 1)

Obviously in the anger phase.

Since virtually nothing in your diary is true, I suppose you can use it as an excuse to vote against Obama and feel justified. Maybe.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:22:38 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 5)

I think about Obama you're completely right on everything about him, all he does is politically expedient, but common, who cares if he called some reporter sweetie. Its not like he tried to molest her or anything. Are we that politically correct that we're going to go out of our way to call Obama a "woman hating sexist" over it? While I honour and love the Clintons, and am angry they won't be the nominee this year, if its Barack H. Obama, yea I'll vote for him. There is nothing worse in this world than the incorrect party in the White House. The incorrect party is the Republican Party, and I will do all I can to bring back prestige to this country.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:25:17 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Good man.  Not because he's my guy, but because priorities matter.

I held my nose and voted for Kerry.  I don't regret it either.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:34:45 PM EST
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All caps is cruise control for cool (2.00 / 2)

this diary, unfortunately, is cruise control for fail.


by JJE on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:26:44 PM EST

Duh (2.00 / 4)

"WHAT WOULD I BE VOTING FOR?"

a Democrat.


by mikeinsf on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:33:23 PM EST

Re: Duh (none / 0)

Is he?  I certainly cant tell based on his voting record.  


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:09:24 AM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 2)

Nice raving diary.  You've contributed nothing but vitriol.  There are no points to refute.

However, if you really want to go there.....who got cozy with Richard Mellon Scaife?  Oh, yeah....


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:36:05 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 2)

I am a woman and I call people (women and men) sweetie.  It is a southern thing.


by Spanky on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:43:33 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 2)

NOT in a professional situation.  Never.
I am southern.
by Caldonia on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:53:06 PM EST
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Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 1)

At some point, we will need to opt for the most generous interpretation of the candidate who is entrusted with our agenda.  It's one thing to criticize on one or another point.  But there is also a great deal of choice involved in interpretation.  Do Obama and Clinton support reproductive rights because of a callous disregard for the 'sanctity of life' or out of principled respect for the rights of women to face the moral questions involved?  

I do not choose to interpret McCain generously as he advocates for things that I oppose, hence I want his advocacy to fail.  I will not go out of my way to smear him with things that are untrue, but I will not hesitate to depict him and his positions as harmful and to cast them in an unattractive light.  I choose to interpret HRC generously as long as she serves the agenda I support.  I choose the most generous interpretation of Obama as I believe he will be our nominee.  Smearing those in position to alter the direction of our country for the better serves no one.


The future is unwritten
by Strummerson on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:52:52 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 3)

Part of 2002 Anti-War Speech:

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.
Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

Part of 2004 DNC speech:

And fellow Americans, Democrats, Republicans, independents, I say to you, tonight, we have more work to do...... more work to do, for the workers

John Kerry believes in an America where hard work is rewarded. So instead of offering tax breaks to companies shipping jobs overseas, he offers them to companies creating jobs here at home.

John Kerry believes in an America where all Americans can afford the same health coverage our politicians in Washington have for themselves.

John Kerry believes in energy independence, so we aren't held hostage to the profits of oil companies or the sabotage of foreign oil fields.

John Kerry believes in the constitutional freedoms that have made our country the envy of the world, and he will never sacrifice our basic liberties nor use faith as a wedge to divide us.

For alongside our famous individualism, there's another ingredient in the American saga, a belief that we are all connected as one people.

If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child.

If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for their prescription and having to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandparent.

If there's an Arab-American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties.

It is that fundamental belief -- it is that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sisters' keeper -- that makes this country work.

It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family: "E pluribus unum," out of many, one.
Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes.

I believe that we can give our middle class relief and provide working families with a road to opportunity.

I believe we can provide jobs for the jobless, homes to the homeless, and reclaim young people in cities across America from violence and despair.

I believe that we have a righteous wind at our backs, and that as we stand on the crossroads of history, we can make the right choices and meet the challenges that face us.

On, message for the last 6 Years.  He must believe some of it.


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. ~ Sun Tzu
by Tumult on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:01:09 PM EST

Are those his words or (1.50 / 6)

Deval Patricks?  One can never be sure


I didn't believe in god before the primaries and I still don't.
by NewHampster on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:17:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Are those his words or (2.00 / 2)

Your snark reflects poorly on your chosen candidate.


by upstate girl on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:18:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

She can handle it (2.00 / 2)


I didn't believe in god before the primaries and I still don't.
by NewHampster on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:23:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: She can handle it (none / 0)

Childish.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:20:03 PM EST
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Disgusting Campaign material (2.00 / 1)

There was no campaign flyer more disgusting that the one Hillary sent out in NH. It was as dishonest a smear as any I've seen, sent out right before the election, and then quickly debunked by the media.

What sort of progressive that cares about choice uses this to attack another Democrat?  It was disgusting, with a capital D.  

But...

I forgive her and look forward to her campaigning for Obama.

Three more weeks.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:12:52 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (1.50 / 4)

To respond at once to several comments:
I'm not critiquing, I'm not proselytizing or advocating, I'm not being divisive.  I'm trying to set forth a position that I sincerely feel, and it does not give me joy, far from it.  I don't point out "sweetie" to be politically correct, but because it's a clue to his inner political core.  It's utterly different when women use the word, just like it's utterly different when whites use the "n" word.  And, similarly, if a white presidential candidate called a black factory worker the "n" word, he wouldn't make it to the next Breaking Newsflash, but that is also not my point.  It's about what it would reveal about his core inner political values and growth.  You can argue degree, but not principle.  
I missed the directive about not being allowed to post unless you're voting a particular way.  I used two different shorthand examples, I was not trying to be exhaustive to prop up my argument.  I understand that he gave many speeches.  They were not risky, he spent no political capital, he had speech writers so can't tell how hard he worked, and, mostly, speeches are not deeds.
On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:13:28 PM EST

Re: You're absolutely right (2.00 / 1)

It's an attitude I've come to recognize coming from him.  I especially loathe when he makes a laughing stock out of Hillary in his Hope & Unity speeches.  Like "C'mon, I mean, huh! Annie Oakley in a duck blind."  Or the dandruff bit I mentioned.  The worst is the litany of stereo-typed female hate language his campaign has promoted, secretive, conniving, deceitful, whiny, manipulative, desperate, you know the routine.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:17:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You do understand women use "sweetie". (none / 0)

Also don't you?  And it is not meant as an insult.
He probably learned it from his mother or grandmother.  Guys don't use it as much, but in most cases I hear it used they are trying to be positive and friendly by using it.  Or at least that is what my experience has been with that word.

Macaca on the other hand is used as an insult, and can be considered racist.   But I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt also.


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. ~ Sun Tzu
by Tumult on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:13:41 PM EST

jpoor grandma (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, blame his grandmother again.

The tire tracks from the last time he threw her under the bus have barely healed.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:12:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Your concern is duly noted (2.00 / 1)

and do you know who shares it:

GLaDoS!!!

This version fits a little better though:

This was a triumph.
I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
I'm so CONCERNED
I do what I must
because I can.
For the 'good' of all of us.
Except the ones who are calm.
But there's lots sense crying over every mistake.
You just keep on being 'concerned' till you run out of cake.
And the Doubt gets sowed.
And you annoy the bold
For the people who are still calm.

I'm not even concerned.
I'm being so insincere right now.
Even though you broke my talking points.
And mocked me.
And tore my points into pieces.
And threw every piece into a fire.
As they burned it hurt because I was so concerned for you!

Now these points of "data" make a beautiful line.
And we're out of talking points.
We're concerned all the time.
So I'm GLaD. I got concerned.
Think of all the things we tried
on the people who are still bold.
Go ahead and leave me.
I think I prefer to stay concerned.
Maybe John McCain
THAT WAS A JOKE.
HAHA. FAT CHANCE.
Anyway, this concern is great.
It's so delicious and moist.
Look at me still talking
when there's doubt to be sown.
When I look out there, it makes me GLaD I'm concerned.
I've diaries to right.
There is logic to fight.
from the people who are still bold.
And believe me I am still concerned.
I'm doing not so well and I'm still Concerned.
I feel CONCERNED but you're still calm.
While you're calm I'll be still concerned.
And when you're victorious I will be still concerned.
STILL CONCERNED


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:14:36 PM EST

He's the Deomcratic Mitt Romney. (1.50 / 2)


formerly bookgirl
by masslib1 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:49:56 PM EST

Re: He's the Deomcratic Mitt Romney. (none / 0)

Actually, since he's still in the race and winning, he would be more like the Democractic John McCain.


Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.
by Massadonious on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:21:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Sad, just plain sad. I know how to show Obama! Destroy our country a little more and help to ensure that McBush is reelected. WONDERFUL LOGIC. These posters better get banned after the nomination is settled. At that point, we need to put all our energy behind Obama and against McCain.


by irish09 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:41:03 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (2.00 / 1)

At the bottom of Obama, there really are no core values.  He is merely a political expedient and will use anybody he feels he needs to achieve his ends.  Nothing new here.


by Pat J on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:52:18 PM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

please recommend this diary, the wreck list is getting stale.


by soros on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:19:40 AM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

Ok it's your right not to believe in what BO says.
What if I said I don't believe you don't believe he believes? Would that make an interesting diary? ;)

However this diary is completely unsubstanciated.
BO is coherent in what he says. He always said he
thought one had to talk with everybody. This is his philosophy. He never wavered from it. That doesn't prevent him from being clear about what he fights for.

You may think it is a strategy, but you do not give any sound motivation for disbelieving him. Most of the times when people are being consistently coherent in what they say I have found it best to believe them a priori.

He appears at the same time open-minded and very firm on his principles; that may seem contradictory to you, perhaps because you have been experiencing 8 years of bushism and have somewhat lost your bearings, but it is actually usually considered as a civilized attitude. And people from all horizons find this extremely appealing, perhaps because they simply find it right.

Just to make things clearer: Republicans are now saying that just because BO says the US must talk with all other countries, it means that he is willing to concede everything to America's enemies
(and compare him to Chamberlain). Thereby confusing diplomacy and appeasement. Might you not be making basically the same mistake? Or perhaps you think republicans are right on that account?


by french imp on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:50:19 AM EST

Re: Change I Don't Believe He Believes In (none / 0)

I think you miss my point that deeds, not speeches, reveal a politician's commitment to principles.  Especially when those deeds are counter to a politician's career interests, require expending political capital, or involve risk of failure or damaging opposition.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:06:06 PM EST
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