Politics of Hope or Control?

Today, David Brock announced what is essentially the death of Progressive Media USA:

"Progressive Media will not be running an independent ad campaign this year," David Brock, the head of the organization, confirmed in a statement obtained by The Fix this morning.

"Progressive Media was established to be an independent on-going progressive issue advocacy organization," Brock added. "We were not established for one issue, one candidate or one election cycle. But donors and potential donors are getting clear signals from the Obama camp through the news media and we recognize that reality."

This is creepy because of the apparent cause.  During a meeting in early May, Obama's finance chair told big donors flat out not to support independent groups.  

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Ben Smith of Politico reported:

Obama's national finance chairwoman, Chicago hotel mogul Penny Pritzker, told supporters at a national finance committee meeting in Indianapolis May 2, and in other conversations, not to give money to the groups, people familiar with her comments said.

"From the beginning of this race Obama has told supporters that if they want to help his effort, they should do so through his campaign," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton, who confirmed that Pritzker has told donors not to give to the groups. "And he means exactly what he says."

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The donors have been considering entreaties from Progressive Media USA, run by conservative-journalist turned liberal media critic David Brock; from former Clinton aide John Podesta's Fund for America; and from America Votes, a group backed by billionaire George Soros that focuses on voter mobilization, among other efforts.

But in recent days, major donors have begun to conclude that Obama is serious in trying to cut off funds to the outside groups.

"It's given donors pause," said one prominent Democratic donor of Pritzker's words.

Some suggest Obama is simply following through on his committment to rise above "politics as usual", and they'll debate the merits of what amounts to unilateral disarmament against McCain and right wing groups.

I think it's less about morality or even a political tactic, and more about control of the message. The Obama campaign wants to frame the message entirely by themselves.

The most obvious negative play against John McCain is "McBush/McSame". Brock's group produced such an ad, and the DNC did the same. Howard Dean consistently makes the observation that "John McCain is running for a 3rd Bush term" in interviews. It's smart, an easy concept that will connect with voters, and for the most part true. Obama has said much the same himself. The whole purpose of Brock's group, this year, was to paint McCain as Bush III. I don't think that troubles the Obama campaign.

What about next year? Or 2010 or 2012? What will the group's message be then? I think Obama's campaign is looking ahead to its own administration. Both Senators Clinton and Obama individually blew away previous primary fund raising records. That should tell anyone with a pulse that there's a lot of $$$ out there for Democratic candidates and, perhaps more dangerously for some, Liberal and Progressive causes.

Older folks remember Harry and Louise, a very effective ad campaign against the Clintons' plans to expand health care coverage, financed largely by insurance companies. Imagine, if you will, it's progressive polar opposite - a campaign, funded with $100M of private donations, calling for Medicare for all, in the midst of a theoretical Obama administration proposing much less ambitious reforms.

This is not the first time we've seen the Obama camp go to great lengths to control the message. With the death (or late term abortion if you will) of Progressive Media USA, the message from Obama's finance chair is very clear to me. It's not, "help us this way". Rather, it's "our way or the highway". I can see Obama wanting to tamper 527s, if only to bolster his own claims to represent the politics of hope, but there are ways to do that aside from cutting them off the knees.

This is creepy, gentle people. Very, very creepy.



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Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

How else should Obama stop them besides preventing their operation?


by Falsehood on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:13:33 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (1.00 / 1)

What's so great about stopping them?

That obvious question aside for the moment, if there's particular topics or areas where the Obama campaign thinks 527s just shouldn't go (such as reminding the public about Sen. McCain's role as one of the Keating Five, something the mainstream media hasn't done), then he could simply hold a press conference and say "my hope is any group taking out ads against McCain will focus solely on the issues before us today" or the like.


by Makarov on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:22:18 PM EST
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That is McCain's strategy, not Obama's (none / 0)

The probability of them pulling something which causes backlash is rather high in this sensitive election. Obama plans on linking McCain to the 527', even though McCain will denounce them, as part of an overall narrative about how "the wheels have come off the Straight Talk Express"


John McCain wants to make abortion illegal
by Lost Thought on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:32:28 PM EST
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Re: That is McCain's strategy, not Obama's (none / 0)

I agree...  for crying out loud... Congress halted business for a day (not saying much, I realize) to decry Moveon.org for the Patraeus/Betrayus flap...


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:52:28 PM EST
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Re: That is McCain's strategy, not Obama's (none / 0)

He's avoiding a hypocracy charge.


by Falsehood on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:25:08 PM EST
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Duh (none / 0)

This is not an attack on that organization, as much as you would love it to be. He is trying to gain the moral high ground on 527's so that he can run ads attacking McCain on it in November. Same reason he didn't take lobbyist money in the primaries.

It is an effective strategy


John McCain wants to make abortion illegal
by Lost Thought on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:16:13 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

They're free to solicit donors themselves.  That big donors are more persuaded by the Obama campaign is their problem to deal with.  After the "General Betray Us" debacle, I would be very concerned about message control.


by rfahey22 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:16:56 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

I don't see anything particularly wrong here.  Obama's camp has every right to request that donors work through the campaign.  How exactly are they cutting off anyone at the knees?  They have stated a clear preference, and people have responded.  If you want to support Prog Media, send a contribution and a note.  Donate to whomever you want.  Axelrod and Pritzker cannot stop you.  They have expressed a preference and donors have responded.  Effective campaigning is all about controlling the message.  It's about time a democratic campaign succeeded at that again.


The future is unwritten
by Strummerson on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:19:23 PM EST

I give the diary title 3/5 stars (2.00 / 1)

for creativity.

The diary itself is closer to 1/5, sadly!


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:21:46 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (1.00 / 6)

Mind control is more like it. This is the sound of the progressive movement dying ("Obama, Obama, Obama") with nice visuals from the corporate media that he is in bed with. It's sexy isn't it.


by grlpatriot on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:30:24 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

you do realize that Obama is considered a progressive, right?


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:54:51 PM EST
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says who? (2.00 / 1)

Obama is not a progressive!  He's a democrat.  The two don't always work together.  Progressives don't diss working class people.


by 4justice on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:44:42 AM EST
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Re: says who? (none / 0)

Well, I realize this statement will be akin to arguing with a brick wall, but neither did Obama


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:15:26 PM EST
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it's a new party-- (2.00 / 1)

The Obama party, the Obama nation. The democratic party is dissolving before our eyes.


by 4justice on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:19:02 PM EST
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Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

what is the outrage?  This is his campaign and he should be able to control the message anyway he fits.  That is leadership!


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:51:57 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

It seems like your diary is criticizing Obama for taking the moral high ground.


by mattw on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:01:27 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (1.33 / 3)

Wow! I bet none of these groups ever dreamed they were signing their own death warrants when they endorsed Obama. If Obama loses the GE this will set the progressive movement back years. We will be starting from scratch to rebuild these groups to fight republican policies and to garner strength for 2012. How many years have we progressives been building these groups?


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:11:33 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

Give them a donation if it means so much to you.


by rfahey22 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:27:07 PM EST
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Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (2.00 / 1)

I say "politics of hope". Finally a candidate who wants to run a different kind of campaign instead of pretending to keep his hands clean and then letting independent groups do the hatchet job. This is exactly what I expect of Obama.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:08:37 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

You are terrible on SA and you're terrible here.


by mydoubleds on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:15:34 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (2.00 / 1)

Makarov, you have gone insane and really need to take a break because you're not a democrat at all just a really really crazy and obnoxious poster.

Also, stop posting on SA. Thanks.


by heyhellowhatsnew on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:28:31 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (2.00 / 1)

Seriously, stop posting on SomethingAwful.

Take a month break, re-read what you've been posting, then reflect on what stances you believe politically and then run your head through the wall for being so dumb.

Stop posting. Stop. Bad Makarov. Bad.


by heyhellowhatsnew on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:29:59 PM EST

Re: Politics of Hope or Control? (none / 0)

Hillary supporter? Of course.

Keep finding things wrong with Obama. "Creepy things."

He does it to be fully accountable dummy. What a waste of bits/bytes.


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:59:44 PM EST


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