Rep. Jim McDermott owes Bill Clinton big time for helping him raise money  to pay off a million dollar court judgement to that asshole Rep. Bohnier.

Yet Jim McDermott endorsed Obama today.

Not to mention Massachusetts/New Jersey.

In Clintonland, yes. Only "megastates" and "automatic delegates." Clinton is literally rewriting the election rules.

I heard she wants to count the delegates and popular votes from Mars and the Moon.

Steve, may we republish your diary at NoQuarter?  e-mail me to confirm at susanunpc at gmail dot com -- i require e-mail confirmation rather than reply here (partly because i'm afraid i'll miss a comment reply)

I agree.  Obama always tracks better after a state gets to know him and MI has not had the benefit of "knowing" him yet.

Both states were free to hold their primaries again as long as they were beyond the prohibited date.  The money was raised to fund the primaries and the Obama supporters in the legislature of Michigan were waiting for Obama to approve the new primary.  He refused. His supporters joined the Republicans and outvoted the other Democrats who were trying to re- vote.  

So let's see.  First Obama takes his name off the ballot because he was trying to curry favor (successfully!) with Iowa, etc, and knowing he was going to lose in Michigan.  Second, when the re=vote allowed in the rules is set to go, he refuses to allow it, knowing he would probably lose again.

So now the party needs to make it right for the voters and for Clinton. You cannot have any process that lets Obama previent the counting of votes against him!

About the rules in Florida.  The Clinton campaign has not exercised their rights on Florida, but they have the right to demand all of the delegates elected there for Obama be awarded to Hillary.  Why?  Because they signed an agreement that they could raise funds in Florida but they could not run ads.  He and Hillary each went to Florida to fund raisers and after the votes were in and counted, Hillary had a rally to thank the voters for voting for her.  All within the rules.

 But Senator Obama ran ads in Florida several times.  He kept saying "oops" claiming it was overzealous staff  .  Another time he blamed Time Warner Cable.  Said they would not cut Florida and Michigan out of thes national ad buys, although they did cut out for other candidates.

Then he blamed geography, saying his ads were beeing seen in most of Florida because he was actually running them on the borders of the neighboring states....even after those states had already voted!

What do the rules of the agreement say will happen to a candidate who ran ads inn Florida or Michigan?  The penalty is complete forfiture of all delegates won in Michigan and Florida.

Obama broke the rules repeatedly to run those ads and has not been charged a single delegate.  Now he accuses Hillary of trying to change the rules and he wants delegates he never got the votes for instead of forfiting all of his delegates in each state.

Don't talk about changing rules!  The rules always  had appeals processes and credentialling processes written in.  And the rules say a delegate's vote can't be final and counted until the convention.

Now he is trying to stop the funding of Democratic causes and issue organizations, funnel all the contributions to him and then dole out funds and mailing lists according to who endorses him, including directing funding to superdelegates' action committees.  This guy is not into demecratic process, if anyone wants to look closely at his behavior.

Google this stuff before parroting the 'she wants to change the rules' meme here.  And don't believe Donna Brazile.  She is an extreme partisan Obama supporter and has used her microphone for him while claiming to be a neutral expert on the rules.  Just chack them out and be your own expert.

You are a jackass.  I know plenty of Hillary supporters.  Friends, relatives, and so on.  I know exactly ONE of them, in real life, who has said he won't vote for Obama in November.

The oddball is you.

do all of you talk or something?  I was under the impression from polls that Obama polls pretty much the same as Hillary amongst white voters, he just gets his ass kicked in the Appalachian area.  But let me know if there are meetings or something where all of you mind meld and decide how you are going to vote.

who are already on board with Obama, including people who were involved in the grassroots campaign for Clinton (unaffiliated with the actual campaign) in Florida.

Just because you haven't seen it happen in awhile doesn't mean it won't. This is one of the prime reasons I dislike Senator Clinton; to me, she exemplifies this attitude of "Eh, who cares about these states? They'll never be Democratic. Fuck 'em."

Obama's polling ahead of McCain in the NOVA and Tidewater regions, and is within three points in Southwestern Virginia. Really, if he drives the totals in NOVA, Richmond, Norfolk, and Roanoke, he's got the state, easy. We did elect Senator Jim Webb, remember, please. VA is definitely a possible pickup for Obama, but not for Clinton.

Furthermore, Obama has more room to trade than Clinton. Clinton, realistically, has to pull both OH and FL to make things go, and if you think Florida's a given for Clinton, I'll tell you now- get real.

There isn't any, but you have to consider that fact that these Obama folks are still living in fantasy land. Angels are going to hover over Obama and trumpets will sound to carry him to a miraculous victory in all 50 states. Call it a miracle, from the "messiah"

Virginia's current governor and last governor are both Democrats.   In 2006 we flipped one senate seat from red to blue, and in 2008 we will flip our second senate seat from red to blue.

Virginia democrats resoundingly chose Barack Obama, and this is a state that is getting closer to blue with every election.

With Obama on the top of the ticket, Virginia is definitely in play.

Not to jump in on Hillary's side, but the fact is most states do not award electoral votes on a proportional basis. On the other hand, the election is not being held today, and I think when the actual campaign kicks in McCain will be going down...it will be "the economy, stupid" all over again, with McCain as "stupid."

As soon as you give me the latest report from Alice in her wonderland.

and in the primary in the primary more D's voted in CD-2 than republicans.  If a democrat could pick that up it would break the tie and win 270-268.

Of course we win any tie in the House, though I would hope it doesn't come to that, kind of a last resort option.

I like this, talking about numbers and strategy again.  Don't know how much more primary war I can take.

I'm not trying to predict anything but I stand by my statement, based on the electoral map, that the states I mentioned are must wins for Democrats.  Just because there's a new face on the scene doesn't mean we've become a new America .