Children of the Flower-Children. The "make love, not war" candidacy.

OK.  I know we weren't all flower-children back in the 60s and early 70s.  But there is so much of that Woodstock/"make love-not war" driven imagery, that it's possible some of our kids either imagine that we were or wish that we had been....I'll come back to this.  But first, the prequel:

My parents both died in the early 60s, so they never got to see me with my long hair, worn-out jeans, torn t-shirt, and "granny" glasses.  However, I have no doubt that if they had, they would have wondered what I'd been smoking (to say the least)!  :)  And if they had lived to hear about me participating in anti-war demonstrations, I figure they would have concluded that I'd temporarily gone out of my mind, like so many of those other "crazy hippies".  My Dad, I'm pretty sure, would have had one of those bumper stickers that said, "If you don't like cops, next time you're in trouble, call a hippie." Of course, I never saw myself as a hippie.  I saw myself as a principled anti-war activist.  But that distinction probably wouldn't even "compute" for my Dad, who likely would have figured one was as mis-guided as the other.

So, here's my confession, all these years later.  When it comes to my reaction to the Obama crusade, I'm starting to realize that I have something in common with my parents.  I've spent lots of time wondering how so many young people (and even a few old people) could have become so irrational that they actually believe Senator Obama can win a big victory next November.


Then today, it finally hit me.  These youngsters are our offspring.  As they grew up, they learned how terrible the country was for people of color back before the 1960s.  They also learned how an anti-war movement composed of mainly white "hippies" joined forces with civil rights groups and subsequently forced one President to retire early, helped get another to resign, and helped bring an end to a terrible war.  Powerful stuff, and it seemingly all came from the idealistic activism of their parents.  That's you and me.  We taught them that anything was possible.  Whether we wanted to or not, we taught them to distrust authority, and that it was better to make love than war.

So then, along comes a black man; an eloquent, black, peace-loving man; an inspiring, thoughtful, anti-war man of color; a young, brilliant, successful, African-American man;  an eloquent, inspiring, anti-war, multi-racial, brilliant, well-spoken, African-American, peace-loving, successful and unusually gifted man; and what do our kids do?  We taught them fairly well, so naturally they listen to his message.  And what's his message?  Well, it's "change", "end the war", and "we can all work together as Americans".  So, they think, 'I love what he's saying, he must be the guy'.  They think, 'He's our MLK, RFK, JFK, and Clean Gene all wrapped up together, and I can't wait to get started on our very own crusade to change America.  Mom and Dad will be so excited!'  And so, as Democrats (particularly young Democrats) so often do, they fall in love with their guy.  The children of the flower-children fall in love with the peace-loving guy who says that we can, 'make nice together, not make war'.

Then he becomes a sensation.  Well, at least in the Democratic Party, he becomes a sensation.  And our kids tell us excitedly that he will lead our party to a great victory in November.  They just know that he will because <u>   (insert various mostly illogical reasons)    </u>!

Naturally, we think they are crazy.  But they're not quite crazy.  They're just young and in love with a politician for the first time.  So they can't see his faults.  And, as is typical for all new lovers, they can't stand it when we point them out.  "That's just like you Clinton people," they say, "always so negative!"

Meanwhile, our Hillary campaigns with brilliant plans for their future and their children's future, repeatedly displaying her customary competence and expertise; but unfortunately, at this early to mid-point in their lives, many of our off-spring have difficulty fully relating to and appreciating such hard-earned competence, so they don't even ask their guy to measure up, and argue that his style is so new and different and better that policy differences don't matter to them.  They say he can and will work all that out later with Congress, and he won't listen to any lobbyists.  Evidently, we begin to think, we didn't teach them quite well enough.

And now their guy has the lead.  He has the momentum.  He has the money.  He has the media.  He even has some very good ideas.  But his candidacy still doesn't inspire us.  We worry that he might get nominated and then lose the general election.  We worry that he might win the general election, but then fail to implement anything worth the effort it will take to get him elected.  We worry that his prime and his time has not yet come.  We worry that our kids will become disillusioned with politics.  We worry about the future of our country.

Hillary worries about our future too.  But she doesn't just worry; she soldiers on, day by day, campaign stop to campaign stop, debate to debate.  And she does so with all the energy and enthusiasm of a much younger person, all the while displaying the confidence and competence we all expect of her.  How does she do it, and why does she do it?  She can do it because she is already more than ready for day 1 in the White House.  Her competence and dedication shines through.  And she does it because of her deep love for our country, our people, and our world.  

Our children have fallen in love with him.

Our candidate has fallen in love with us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Om-c9IM jw

I only hope that our children's children will one day be able to appreciatively wear symbolic flowers in their hair and look back on the 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020 elections and say, "Thanks, Mom and Dad, Grandma and Grandpa, for coming together and doing the right things for us."

[editor's note, by Clarkin08] Diary has been edited per comments received.

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Re: Children of the Flower-Children (2.00 / 2)

I love this diary.  My 22-year old daughter is a Hillblazer at UF but I still completely get your feelings.

Bravo.


by inFlorida on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:10:40 PM EST

Re: Children of the Flower-Children (2.00 / 1)

Thanks.  They are all great kids, whichever candidate they support; and I love both of mine, even though one voted O and the other I think is leaning that way too.

I just see no sense whatsoever in wasting two great candidates by nominating O before he is truly ready to win the cut-throat GE as well as fulfilling his promise for the job itself.  And I have little doubt that one day he will be. Just not this year, and we already have a perfectly good candidate in Hillary.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:20:12 PM EST
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Re: Children of the Flower-Children (2.00 / 1)

UF.

My daughter was a Gator too.

And she's a Hillary supporter too.

;)


by pelican on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:51:48 PM EST
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Well...... (none / 0)

Nicely said, but I still think there's an all too heathy dose of bamboozled and dangerous group think that goes beyond an, "Awwwww, aren't they just cute and quaint little creations that we have made."  


by River103 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:21:10 PM EST

Re: Well...... (none / 0)

Thanks for the compliment, River103, but I'm not certain what the rest of your post means.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:28:07 PM EST
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Re: Well...... (2.00 / 2)

The way I read your post was asking us to consider that BO's supporters are the children that we have made. That we have taught them well, hence, they love this peace loving, likeable figure. A fair statement. However, I strongly believe that the group think (aided inexhaustedly by virtually all forms of media) is bamboozling us out of the best candidate between the two: Clinton. That's what I was trying to say. Sorry for the confusion!


by River103 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:51:43 PM EST
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Got it, and I agree. (2.00 / 1)

The media have some characteristics similar to a "gossip" network.

They pass along lots of things that aren't true at all.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:37:20 PM EST
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Re: Children of the Flower-Children. (2.00 / 1)

Thanks.

And justice.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:23:31 PM EST

Response from a Summer of Love Child (2.00 / 1)

My parents were anti-Vietnam civil rights protesters.  They frequently remind me that I was born in 1967 -- the midst of the summer of love.

There may be something to what you say -- though in fact both my parents were supporting Obama before I was.  He and his campaign remind them of the 1968 -- the year they both spent working for Bobby Kennedy's campaign (being from Los Angeles they were both at the Ambassador Hotel and then at the Democratic Convention).  Neither expected to ever feel this way about American politics again.

One of the unexpected things about the Obama campaign for me personally has been hearing their stories about following Kennedy up and down the West coast-- my dad says it was like watching a wave crest and then break with RFK surfing calmly through the madness.  The pain of his assisnation had overshadowed everything else and kept them silent.

Between 1964 and 1975, so much was done to destroy the brilliant idealism and hope of your and my parents' generation.  As the wheel turns, I'm so amazed to watch it come around again.


the third eye does not weep. it knows.
by mijita on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:55:19 PM EST

I also worked for Bobby in Calif. in 1968 (2.00 / 1)

All the very best to your parents.  Bobby was just incredible in person.  I will never forget him.

One thing though that maybe needs to be said.  Most of the young (and white) college students and faculty in California back then were for Eugene McCarthy.  I don't know what your parents were doing, but I was a very rare grad student for Bobby.  You see, "Clean Gene" attracted those college students and faculty primarily because he made a decision to run before Bobby did.  And once they fell in love with the old Professor, they couldn't tolerate the "ruthless" and "opportunistic" Bobby.  Never mind Bobby's many accomplishments.  He had supported the war before he was against it, and therefore many young Democrats were against him.

To some extent I see Hillary with a similar difficulty.  I also see Senator Obama as a figure with some of the same "professorial" appeal as Senator McCarthy.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:52:21 PM EST
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Re: I also worked for Bobby in Calif. in 1968 (2.00 / 1)

My parents were college students, but aren't white.  They're Chicano/Latino -- well at least my dad is.  My mother is super mixed, but her parents were union democrats.  They identified with and were much more part of the civil rights movements and Chicano moritorium than the student movements. Neither of them ever supported McCarthy until after Bobby was killed.  However they did back him at the convention.

It's interesting to see the same generational split happening again.  I find it kind of ironic to see people of the boomer generation complaining about "kids today" in relation to Obama.  

My father would say unless we're careful, we become the people we hated in high school.


the third eye does not weep. it knows.
by mijita on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:55:16 PM EST
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Re: I also worked for Bobby in Calif. in 1968 (2.00 / 2)

I'm not surprised that your parents aren't white since you've told me they were college students back then.  Gene was backed by the white educated class, while Bobby was hugely supported by people of color (both well educated and not) as well as the unions.  And after Bobby was killed, I believe many of his supporters backed George McGovern, although I was so depressed that I even left the Democratic Party for a while and re-registered as a member of the Peace and Freedom Party.  I think our ticket was Dr. Spock and Eldridge Cleaver.  Ask your folks if they even remember them.  They'll likely have a laugh.

By the way, I'm not a boomer. Don't confuse me with those other "kids".  ;) I'm a WWII baby.

Anyway, I really do get that Senator Obama is very admirable, and I think I understand part of why so many of his supporters are so ardent.  However, I seriously believe that he is in for big trouble if he wins the Democratic nomination, and even if he wins the general election.  If I were his father, I would have advised him to finish his Senate term with a record of accomplishments, and go for Governor of Illinois before tackling the Presidency.

But good luck and fair winds to you all anyway.

"Some people see things as they are and ask why.  I see things that never were and ask why not?"  RFK, (eloquently) mis-quoting G. B. Shaw


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 10:30:20 PM EST
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Bobby Jr, Kathleen and Kerry are all long-time (2.00 / 1)

political activists.

Caroline is a great person, but she is not usually involved in anything very political.

That's why I put greater value on Hillary's endorsement by the first three than I do on Obama's endorsement by the latter.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:56:00 PM EST
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By the time the Kennedys endorsed (none / 0)

...my father had been supporting and sending money to the Obama campaign for more than six months.

For them as with me, it's Obama's connection to grassroots activism and his organized efforts to register and GOTV that's the reason for their support.

Plus my family's union roots run very deep.  Hillary Clinton lost any chance with them when she hired Mark Penn.


the third eye does not weep. it knows.
by mijita on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:59:26 PM EST
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" formerly Muslim, now Christian" (none / 0)

Please stop this debunked claim that Obama was formerly a Muslim.  I understand that you're probably misinformed about this and not meaning to spread libelous falsehoods, but please understand -- Obama is not a Muslim, and has never been one.


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:57:58 PM EST

Re: " formerly Muslim, now Christian" (2.00 / 1)

What on earth is wrong with once being Muslim, and why are ya'll so defensive anytime anyone mentions the possibility that BO might have a Muslim background?  For the team that hopes to unite, it seems mighty offensive to express such fear of association with one of the world's major religions.


by CalGirl on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:33:00 PM EST
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Nowhere do I contend that being a Muslim (2.00 / 2)

Nowhere do I contend that being a Muslim is wrong.  I correct the original poster for two reasons.

1.  Her statement was untrue
2.  There are people who won't vote for a Muslim

There is good reason to be defensive in the face of an unfounded allegation that has the potential, if believed, to hurt the Democrats' chances in November (assuming Barack is the nominee).

Where there are legitimate critiques that can be made against Obama people are free to express them -- but when lies are spread it is incumbent upon everyone (Hillary and McCain supporters alike) to set the record straight.

Were ridiculous, and easily debunked, rumors spread about McCain, I would do my best to refute those as well (despite the fact that I am a die hard progressive).  If someone were to say that he was gay for example, I would call that person out for it.  And its not because I hate gay people, its because I want to see an end to libelous politics.


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:29:58 PM EST
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Very good, DreamsOfABlueNation. Truth must always (none / 0)

trump politics.  Otherwise, we may as well settle back and wait for Big Brother to bring us our victory gin.

And I really like your online identity.  Very cool.

However, in the interests of truth, while I am honored to possibly be thought part of the fairer (and often fairer as well) gender, the truth is I am rather obviously not, which anyone who has seen me will quickly attest.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:53:17 PM EST
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Thanks for the compliment (none / 0)

I didn't exactly get the last sentence-- care to elaborate?  

Also, the way the Republican's have been at each other's throats this year, I have the feeling that no matter who we nominate Democrats will be celebrating in November.  Both Obama and Clinton supporters will be drinking the victory gin -- I'm buyin'.


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 11:02:43 PM EST
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Re: Thanks for the compliment (none / 0)

I was referring to the pronoun you used to describe me where you posted:

 "Her statement was untrue"

No foul, no penalty, temporary honorary feminine gender humbly accepted.  However, it's just that "His" is the correct pronoun for me.

And that Victory Gin I mentioned is not something we would like to drink.  It's something used to placate the masses in Orwell's "1984".  Sorry for the obscurity.

Here's another caveat.  We'd best not count our Presidential chickens before they are hatched.  A lot can happen between now and next December, and it's far too early to be confident that a Democrat will necessarily win then.  I kid you not.


by Clarkin08 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 01:03:58 AM EST
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Re: " formerly Muslim, now Christian" (none / 0)

There's nothing wrong with being Muslim anything more than there's anything wrong with being Christian or Hindu or Jewish.

But I'm a (lapsed) Catholic.  It would be frustrating if people kept referring to me as Jewish.  Not because there's anything wrong with being Jewish, but because I'm not.


the third eye does not weep. it knows.
by mijita on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 10:01:52 PM EST
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Re: " formerly Muslim, now Christian" (2.00 / 1)

Sorry if I'm wrong about that.  I think of that as a plus, not a minus, but I'll gladly change it.  Do you have a link to a debunker?


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:58:41 PM EST
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You are a credit to the blogosphere (2.00 / 1)

I knew you weren't trying to spread unfounded rumors.

Here's your cite.  http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/mus lim.asp

I don't know whoto make that link live, but in relevant part it states:

"no evidence supports a claim that Obama is currently, or ever has been, a Muslim (radical or otherwise)"

For the record, I don't look at his religion as a positive or negative, but I know that many don't feel the same way I do (or you do) and would refuse to vote for a Muslim.  I only want the truth to be told.


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:16:17 PM EST
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Re: You are a credit to the blogosphere (2.00 / 1)

Thanks very much for the kind words and that link.  I learn something new every day.  At least I try to.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:32:12 PM EST
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the arrogance of t is diary (1.00 / 0)

is precisely the same kind of arrogance that has led the clinton campaign to itd current position. if hillary had crowds of thousands of young and new voters, her supporters would say that its just a function of her message etc. but if they are for obama, then its obviously some juvenile crush. the fact is that even though young voters are voting for obama, the vast majority of voters are probably middle aged men and women who don't look at their candidates thru the same rose colored glasses thT u think anyone under 30 views obama. I will not pretend that I speak for the younger generation, inasmuch as your antiquated views obviously don't speak for the vast majority of true democrats - who don't think that increased voter participation and enthusiasm is a bad thing. but let me, on behalf of the "kids" personally apologize to you for not voting to bring about the clinton restoration - the psychodrama and lost Congress included - and for supporting the candidate that was willing to fling young american boys and girls into a meat grinder, just so she could stand at a debate podium and claim she was strong enough to be commander in chief. good riddance.


by highgrade on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:20:14 PM EST

Er, Hillary does have thousands of young and new (2.00 / 1)

supporters.  But that's beside the point, which is that ever since the Obama candidacy was virtually pressed on him by ardent supporters, many of them in their 30s and children of parents of my "flower child" generation, Senator Obama has been running to be elected President well before his political prime.  The question is why, and part of the answer is love, understandable love.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:28:50 PM EST
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Antiquated views? That's pretty... (2.00 / 1)

arrogant.  I think this diary speaks for 50% of "true democrats" and I'm proud to be counted as one.


by Shazone on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 11:09:51 PM EST
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Re: Antiquated views? That's pretty... (none / 0)

Good point, and thanks, Shazone.


by Clarkin08 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 12:51:08 AM EST
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child of the 60's thanks you! (none / 0)

wow -- thank you!  this 60-some former flower child could never articulate what you just did -- please keep writing.  I was giving up, thinking there were no sane people out there anymore.  So many people my age who should know better jumping on the puntit's band wagon.  You are my hero!!  Thanks again.


by sibyl on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 08:20:45 PM EST

Re: child of the 60's thanks you! (none / 0)

You are very welcome, sibyl; and thank you very much.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:15:16 PM EST
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Re: It is a very valid theory (none / 0)

Thanks.  Yours is the second post I've read correcting me about the religion issue.  I guess I must be wrong about that, but quite honestly thought it a plus rather than a minus.  I'm a former Christian who is now a (non-practicing) Pagan, so I'm happy to see anyone who changes their religion from whatever they started out with.  I think it shows character.


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:03:29 PM EST

Re: your daughter is the real (none / 0)

You have no idea just how proud I am of both my children.  They are both incredible human beings.  However, she's no "hippie", and neither was I, so you'd best be smilin when you're saying that.  :)


by Clarkin08 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:18:39 PM EST


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