The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary

Cross-posted at Daily Kos

The press hasn't noted it, so I thought I should write a diary to celebrate that a first has occurred in the history of our republic.  An event without precedent in American history, a woman has won a primary in the nominating process for her party.  The woman who shattered that glass ceiling, of course, is none other than Hillary Clinton.

The historical nature of the Democratic primaries this year has been lost on none of us.  A woman, a Latino, and an African American have offered themselves to the Democratic electorate as candidates for the nomination of our party; indeed, even after the Iowa caucuses, all three still were standing and advanced to contest the New Hampshire primary.  

We cannot minimize the historical significance of Barack Obama's win in the Iowa caucuses, but even so, he was not the first African American to see electoral success in the nominating process.  That honor, of course, goes to the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr. In 1984, when he ran for president, Jackson won five primaries and caucuses, including Louisiana, the District of Columbia, South Carolina, Virginia, and Mississippi.  Jackson repeated that success in 1988 when he won 11 contests: seven primaries in the states of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Virginia, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico, and four caucuses in Delaware, Michigan, South Carolina and Vermont.  Obama's accomplishment in Iowa, of course, reflects the fact that he has led us as a nation to credit him as a very serious contender for the presidency when we failed as a nation to not similarly credit Jackson as a serious contender when he, in fact, was one.

But let's look in context at what has happened in New Hampshire.  About half of all Americans are women, but the republic is well into its third century when a woman finally has accomplished what Hillary Clinton achieved on Tuesday.  The nation was still in its first century in 1872 when the first woman ran for president: Victoria Woodhull, a stockbroker, publisher, and protégé of Cornelius Vanderbilt, ran for president of the United States on the Equal Rights Party ticket.  Twelve years later in 1884, Belva Lockwood, the first woman admitted to practice law before the U.S Supreme Court, ran on the same ticket and ran once again in 1888.  

In the nineteenth century, however, states did not prepare ballots; parties did.  It was not until 1964 that any woman appeared on a ballot that a state prepared.  Between 1964 and 2004, 22 women were on the ballot in Democratic primaries and 14 ran in Republican primaries.  The names of many of these 36 women are legendary:  Shirley Chisholm, Margaret Chase Smith, Pat Schroeder, Patsy Mink, Elizabeth Dole, and Carol Mosely Braun are among them.

Never before in our republic has a woman won a presidential primary.  Hillary Rodham Clinton is not just making history.  With her win in the New Hampshire primary, she already has become a name for the record books.



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Wow, good call (2.00 / 4)

Even Clinton and her supporters seemed to miss that.  It went right over the medias head.


by dpANDREWS on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:05:00 AM EST

Re: Wow, good call (2.00 / 4)

Actually, someone at daily kos pointed out that Shirley Chisholm won the New Jersey primary in 1972.  The diary is in error.  Hillary is the second woman to win a primary, but of course, the first woman to win the traditional first primary.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:14:42 AM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

That also means we're in error in giving the Rev. Jackson credit for the other historic first.

However, a quick run through Google failed to turn up any independent confirmation of the Chisholm point.  It's odd that not even this page confirms that she won the New Jersey primary.  Have you seen any confirmation?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 11:11:48 AM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

From Ms. Chisholm's NYT obit, linked below.

In 1972, when she entered the presidential primaries, she did not expect to capture the Democratic nomination, which ultimately went to George S. McGovern. "Some see my candidacy as an alternate and others as symbolic or a move to make other candidates start addressing themselves to real issues," she said at the time. [b]She did not win a single primary, but in 2002, she said her campaign had been a necessary "catalyst for change." [/b]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/03/obitua ries/03chisholm.html


by americanincanada on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 12:56:14 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (2.00 / 2)

Meant to bold that. She did not win a single primary, but in 2002, she said her campaign had been a necessary "catalyst for change."
by americanincanada on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 12:58:09 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

I think the Times is in error, but since the NJ Primary was utterly meaningless except for its significance concerning Chisholm it was easily overlooked, and there isn't much about it online.  Chisholm, from what I can tell, was one of only two candidates on the NJ ballot.  Someone with a copy of the proceedings from the '72 Convention laying around could easily settle this, I suppose, but I think I only have '84 and '88 (don't ask me why).


by Jay R on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 04:10:48 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (2.00 / 1)

For some reason, imdb has it: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1596930/bio

Along with Bella Abzug and Patsy Mink, became among the first women to seek the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in 1972. She went on to receive 152 delegates and win the New Jersey primary coming into the convention.

The Barnard Bulletin as well: http://barnardbulletin.blogspot.com/2006 /11/where-have-all-women-candidates-gone .html

Among these were Harvard- and Oxford-educated female candidates like Democratic former Congresswoman Patricia Schroeder and Republican Senator Elizabeth Dole; even Columbia University graduates like former Democratic New York Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm, who won the New Jersey primary for president, receiving the highest number of votes for a female candidate ever, before ultimately losing her party's bid.

Also fun: the sheer number of "Shirley Chisholm nude XXX" sites on the web!


by Jay R on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:53:26 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (2.00 / 1)

You can see below the link to the New York Times story from 1972 that confirms she didn't win.  I think it's so weird how misinformation gets propagated like this, particularly on the Internet.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 06:05:17 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

Sorry, but that's incorrect as well (as I had to pay the Times Select fee to learn): Chisholm DID win the statewide Primary, as only she and Terry Sanford were listed on it.  McGovern, however, won most of the delegates on county-level voting.  He won the delegates, she won the primary.

I checked at the local library and found the Congressional Quarterly Guide to US Elections (2nd edition: 1985), which, on page 423, gives the results of the 6/6/72 New Jersey Democratic Primary as:

Chisholm   51,433
Sanford    25,401

No other candidates appeared on the ballot.


by Jay R on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:54:51 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

Come on Jay, that is pathetic. 76,000 total votes in a non-binding beauty contest against a no-name and no real competitors in a state with 7 million inhabitants according to the 1970 census is not a presidential primary. A primary or caucus has to award delegates to be meaningful.

Chisholm has too many real accomplishments to be dragged into this for your political purposes.


by souvarine on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 11:15:44 PM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

It had to happen eventually that a woman candidate for president won a primary. Nothing establishes that America is advancing itself in the quest for true equality of all of its people.

But did it have to be Hillary Clinton? I would have hope for a woman candidate who was less concerned with careerism and more concerned with  serving the American people as a traditional Democrat, rather than as a status quo Republican Lite candidate, a Democrat In Name Only, a DINO.


Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.
by shergald on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 09:49:22 AM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (2.00 / 1)

It would have been just as historic if a Republican woman had done it first. It is embarrassing for our nation that it has taken this long, and  embarrassing that there are still people like you who must diminish any woman's accomplishments.


by souvarine on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 09:55:20 AM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second part. This is still a political campaign, and the sex of the candidate is irrelevant. No, I wouldn't want to see a Republican woman elected president or any Republican elected president. Here we differ.


Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.
by shergald on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 10:53:37 PM EST
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Sexism (none / 0)

When it's a woman, it's called "careerism."

When it's a man, it's called "ambition."


by Dooley on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 10:13:25 AM EST
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Re: Sexism (none / 0)

Well, we have heard about the Bill-Hillary pact to attain political ascendency in America, which, if true, is certainly reminiscient of career ambitions.

You see, "careerism" and "ambition" go hand in hand. I would have been more impressed with these two if they had supported a political position like Democratic FDR-kind liberal-socialism, which they felt was best for America, rather than position revised to maximize electability.

Thus the Republican Lite administration of the 1990s. Changing positions to pander to current political trends is a symptom of careerism. As long as you get elected, what matters what you believe in?


Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.
by shergald on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 11:26:18 AM EST
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Re: Wow, good call (none / 0)

Depending on which definition you use for "African-American," of course, as Chisholm's mother was from Barbados and her father was from Guyana.


by Jay R on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 06:06:41 PM EST
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Yes, it's really amazing! (2.00 / 3)

It's just so easy for us to forget that we really made history on Tuesday! For the first time ever, we have a woman so close to becoming a major party nominee. We really haven't seen this before. When we choose Hillary, we are choosing a real agent of change who's not just a great woman, but someone who will do great things as our next President! :-)


No way, no how, no McCain! :-)
by atdleft on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:18:15 AM EST
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If Hillary wins the Democrats lose (none / 0)

I wanted to vote for Hillary but she sold herself to the very people she was fighting - pharma, insurance, war profiteers.  
Besides that her negatives are way too high.  If she wins the nomination the Democrats will not win the WH in the fall.
Listening comes first
by Moonwood on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 11:09:52 AM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 3)

yes it is great news.  I did hear a little bit about it on the blogs but not much.  I think people were too focused on why there was this huge turn out for Clinton.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:10:23 AM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 2)

yes it is great news.  I did hear a little bit about it on the blogs but not much.  I think people were too focused on why there was this huge turn out for Clinton.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:17:40 AM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 3)

It's huge.  I'm going to write a diary about the "iron my shirt" moment, for which I was present.  Hillary took a real risk that night in confronting these guys and it was amazing.


formerly bookgirl
by masslib1 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:28:55 AM EST

How 'bout that "Iron My Shirt" moment? (2.00 / 2)

And you were actually there to see it in person! I just couldn't imagine how appalling and disgusting that must have been in person. I'm just so proud of Hillary and all of you there for giving them the kick in the ass that they deserved for their vitriolic misogyny! You gals are the best, just like our Hill! :-)


No way, no how, no McCain! :-)
by atdleft on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 11:06:40 AM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

There's gotta be a good pro-Hillary Clinton shirt to be made on that theme, but I can't quite think of it. Somebody help me out...


by OrangeFur on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 02:38:54 AM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

The wingnutosphere is reporting that the two guys were pranksters from some radio show in Boston.

At one point, they were claiming one of the guys actually had a Hillary sticker on his bag, suggesting that the whole thing was a con job.  They might have dropped that argument, though.

I think it's appropriate to point out at this juncture that I iron shirts much better than my wife.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 02:46:52 AM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

If you take your shirts out of the dryer as soon as the dryer is finished and hang them up right away, there should be no wrinkles.  Hence, no need to iron shirts for either yourself or your wife.  Gotta love the gender-role-neutralizing effects of modern technology.   :-)


by georgep on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 11:54:06 AM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 1)

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?p id=2098
by americanincanada on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 01:20:19 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 2)

"Irony my shirt"

The media  fed on Obama's Iowa victory like our cat eating his morning food like he hadn't been feed for weeks. There was little, if any mention of Jesse Jackson's Primary victories in 1988.
(of course Jesse Sr. is old school right?)

HRC wins in NH and the "historic moment" is not mentioned.

We have not, as a nation of smoke and mirrors, moved beyond color of melanin or gender.Until these factors ..are well..not factors..
we remain where we were before.

Because they are still factors..song of the day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDOMuhpq Uo

Point of Information:
http://www.iwdc.org/resources/timeline.h tm

(John Edwards still speaks for me)


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie
by nogo war on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 03:10:29 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 1)

of course I meant fed not feed...speaking of which...time to fill up his bowl with his generic food..(hey he as learned to love it)


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie
by nogo war on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 03:15:20 PM EST

Sorry (none / 0)

She's not the first.  Chisholm won the NJ primary in 1972.  Obama is also not the first African-American to win a caucus/primary.  Jackson won a few in the 80s.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a century.
by jkfp2004 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 04:09:18 PM EST

People Need to do Research (2.00 / 1)

Chisholm won New Jersey with 66% of the vote in 1972 and won 162 delegates. Jackson won Louisiana, DC, South Carolina, Virginia and Mississippi in 1984. In 1988 he won Alabama, DC, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Virginia, Delaware, Michigan, South Carolina and Vermont. He won 1,218 delegates (2nd), but far the most successful African-American candidate.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 04:20:46 PM EST

Re: People Need to do Research (none / 0)

Can you link to any documentation of Chisholm's primary win?  I haven't been able to find anything.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 04:34:47 PM EST
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Re: People Need to do Research (2.00 / 1)

I got it from here:

http://www.americanwomenpresidents.org/t he_campaign.htm

It is third party and I don't have any newspaper articles stating the fact.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:26:14 PM EST
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Re: People Need to do Research (2.00 / 1)

I think that must be misinformation (why, I have no idea).  I managed to track down the old NYT abstract from June 1972...

Dakotan Beats Humphrey By a Big Margin in Jersey; MARGIN IS LARGE IN GARDEN STATE Dakotan's Victory Extends From the Rural South to the Northern Suburbs

BY RONALD SULLIVAN

June 7, 1972, Wednesday

Page 1, 1133 words

Senator George McGovern overwhelmed Senator Hubert H. Humphrey in yesterday's Democratic Presidential primary election in New Jersey. The South Dakotan held 5-to-1 majorities in some counties, capturing at least 65 committed delegates to the national convention and leading in races for 18 others of the state's 109...

I think Hillary gets to wear the crown after all.  And Jesse Jackson can keep his!


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:38:57 PM EST
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Re: People Need to do Research (2.00 / 1)

I found a NY Times article in their online archive (didn't pay to see the whole thing, but the first graph tells the story) on the results of the '72 NJ primary.  Here it is:

Dakotan Beats Humphrey By a Big Margin in Jersey; MARGIN IS LARGE IN GARDEN STATE Dakotan's Victory Extends From the Rural South to the Northern Suburbs

BY RONALD SULLIVAN

June 7, 1972, Wednesday

Page 1, 1133 words

Senator George McGovern overwhelmed Senator Hubert H. Humphrey in yesterday's Democratic Presidential primary election in New Jersey. The South Dakotan held 5-to-1 majorities in some counties, capturing at least 65 committed delegates to the national convention and leading in races for 18 others of the state's 109. [ END OF FIRST PARAGRAPH ]


by BobinDC on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:40:16 PM EST
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Re: People Need to do Research (2.00 / 1)

I guess I beat you by a couple minutes, Bob.  But I think that's awesome that you worked for McGovern!


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:47:23 PM EST
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Re: People Need to do Research (none / 0)

If you did pay for the whole thing (as I reluctantly did), you'd see that they clarify that McGovern won county contests to assign delegates, but Chisholm won the statewide Primary (only she and Terry Sanford were on the ballot).

CQ's <u>Guide to US Elections</u> lists the results of the NJ Primary as

Chisholm   51,433   66.9%
Sanford    25,401   33.1%


by Jay R on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:58:44 PM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 3)

I was an Election District captain for McGovern in Rutherford, NJ in 1972.  My recollection is that McGovern won by a very wide margin statewide.

As to Chisholm, I did find online a history of her '72 campaign by a women's political historian named Jo Freeman who was a Chisholm alternate delegate from Illinois at the '72 convention.  Here is her entry on the Chisholm campaign: http://www.jofreeman.com/polhistory/chis holm.htm

Freeman says that Chisholm won only 28 delegates nationwide (although she picked up more votes at the convention) and did not win any primaries.


by BobinDC on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:33:54 PM EST

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McGovern ran in the counties, not statewide.  The statewide ballot was nonbinding, and the delegates were decided on a county level.  A screwed up system to be sure, but one that makes it so, while McGovern won the delegates, Chisholm won the Primary (largely by default, since only she and Terry Sanford competed).


by Jay R on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 06:00:30 PM EST
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by BobinDC on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:42:13 PM EST

wikipedia vandalism to diminish Clinton (2.00 / 3)

The Shirley Chisholm entry in Wikipedia was edited on January 9th, after Clinton's historic win, to make it look like Chisholm won the 1972 NJ primary. McGovern won NJ in 1972. Some people just don't want Hillary Clinton to get credit for anything.


by souvarine on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 07:28:15 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

Lots of misinformation around the web then. It makes you wonder where it all came from. If Chisholm did not win Jersey, I guess Clinton is the first women to win a presidential primary.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 08:17:51 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

Something is very wrong here. I'm looking at this site:

http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.h tml?RaceID=36095

Which shows someone imputed Chisholm's NJ primary win in 2003. Was there two NJ primaries?


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 08:30:42 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 0)

That has to be some sort of erroneous entry.  The NYT archive contains nothing remotely similar, and the date is the same as the date of the primary that McGovern won.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 12:36:50 AM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

Apparently there was two primaries. Go figure. We were all right.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:58:13 PM EST
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Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

It is amazing isn't it.  Like her book, Living History.


by Kingstongirl on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:15:06 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (2.00 / 1)

theres a crack in the ceiling that will shatter into a million pieces come november


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:31:56 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

God I hope so.  I just read this http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=9434 by John Cole and realized that it was so true.  Everyone was so quick to do the pile on Hillary and there was this seeming glee with her expected loss in NH.  If she wins the nomination, it will be because the voters heard her over all the noise.    


by Kingstongirl on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 10:22:48 PM EST
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Re: The First Woman (none / 0)

I did hear that on CNN. I did not know that before, I remember when Bob Dole ran, everyone was saying Elizabeth should have been the one running- you heard that everywhere- but then she did try to get the nomination the next race and she didn't well do at all.


by reasonwarrior on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 10:43:24 PM EST

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by WMCB on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 11:27:54 PM EST

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Thank you for this diary.  Hillary Clinton deserves credit for her success in defying convention and history.  An enormous glass ceiling has been broken.   That is something we all should celebrate.


by Ryan Anderson on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 12:22:54 AM EST

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Exit polls are the clue to the mystery of what happened on Tuesday night regarding the New Hampshire primary and the clue to the losses of both Kerry and Gore.   Exit polling both in the Kerry and Gore contest had them both aheard and they are white men.  Yet at the end of the day, exit polls were wrong, it had nothing to do with Race then and now.  This keeps happening over and over again and no one questoins why, how long are we going to sing this song "what went wrong with the exit polls".  Exit polls had Obama way ahead and at the end of the day he lost by 2 percent.  
I cannot believe the so-called Intelligentsia of the media are so bewildered and so baffled as to the wide discrepancy between the exit polls and the polling and the so-called actual vote in the Obama total for New Hampshire'sTuesday night primary.  In the very first two vote  tallys
done by paper ballots put in boxes, the exit polls were not wrong, and Obama won those voting places by a large margin.  The reason for the
later discrepancies are due to MACHINE AMPERING.  The Powers that Be were  not ready to give Obama the victory.  It happened with Gore, it happened
with Kerry and it will happen with Huckabee. HOWEVER, IT DID NOT HAPPEN IN  THE IOWA CAUCUSES BECAUSE PEOPLE STAND UP IN THE LIGHT OF DAY AND ARE  COUNTED.  The Powers that Be cannot control that.  And, until we address this secret weapon of the Powers that Be, the people cannot vote their true choice into office, that would be like putting the power into the People's hands -- imagine that!  The Media, as a whole, is acting negligent and irresponsible and has an obligation and a duty to inform the public and
question all options. Not a duty to stay silent, like they did after  911, and we got into a war that should never have been.   It was not racial
that skewed the voting total, as Obama has broad appeal to all races, sexes and ages.  May be the so called intelligentsia would like us to
believe that so we cannot see the truth.  They keep questioning and saying -- even the exit polls when we ask people said Obama was ahead.  What went wrong?  We can bring up questions and scenarios and ask  can a computer hijack an airplane?  Of course.  Can a computer hack/change votes?   Most Definitely!  Now they are having a debate over ID Cards when the debate should be about how to have a voting system the people can believe in.

INCREDULOUS!  WILL THE MEDIA FAIL US AGAIN?  I am glad Kucinich is calling for a re-count in New Hampshire.


by bacalove on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 02:12:05 PM EST

Re: The First Woman To Win a Presidential Primary (none / 0)

Time to break out the tin foil hates again.
by americanincanada on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 02:27:43 PM EST
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