You forgot to include Obama on that list, who voted for the Boxer amendment but ran and hid in some corner when it came time to vote for the freedom of speech and for Move On by voting against the Cornyn amendment.

Update your diary to note that both Biden and Obama were to busy to defend the freedom of speech and the Democratic base.  Thanks.

the actions of Blackwater in recent days has put Americans and diplomats under great peril.  These actions must be condemned by a resolution of the Senate immediately, otherwise American prestige and credibility will be undermined by renegade, lawless entities like Blackwater

Is Harry Reid brain dead? Time after time after time, he allows amendments to come to the floor that put Democrats -- especially his own party's Presidential candidates -- in a lose/lose situation.

What is he thinking? Why would he put Clinton in a position to either vote against moveon.org and get attacked by the left or vote for moveon.org and get attacked by the Republicans?

It's the same brain dead thinking that he used in force the candidates to vote on that emergency supplemental Iraq bill.

and Klobuchar. Why would they vote for this?

Are you kidding me? Was he confused?

I though the ad was dumb, but this isn't about the ad.

I've always opposed resolutions condemning speech. They violate the spirit of the first amendment. Plus a liberal group is being targeted for political gain.

Harry Reid is brain dead. Obama ducked the vote. Geez. Can these guys get a clue?

The ad had good intentions but was poorly poorly done.  Obama said it best in a recent interview.  If MoveOn wanted to hit the war, they should have attacked Bush, not Petraeus.  Petraeus has enough credibility to make the ad go hay-wire and screw over Democrats.  

Obama's audacity of hope. Yeah...

I can't believe that he wouldn't vote.  He is against the war.  He is probably the most popular candidate on the web.   Yet he ducked the vote.

Interesting.

"Makes you wonder who exactly is running the    show here." - Todd Beeton

It certainly not the Dems.

Interesting how everyone agrees that the ad controversy is much ado about nothing, yet somehow the vote on the symbolic resolution regarding the ad is the BIGGEST THING EVER.

If I had a vote, I doubt I would have condemned the ad.  So what?  It's the same way with flag burning and all the other crappy wedge issues, people agree they're stupid issues yet they get all upset when Democrats vote the "wrong" way.

Get upset that the Democrats aren't doing enough to end the war, don't get upset about this crap.  It makes no difference to anyone either way.

I don't think Obama will be able to call himself progressive after ducking this vote. The same might be said about Webb that voted for it. This goes back to the discussion we were having a few days ago concerning whether it was important to elect just plain old Democrats or Democrats with progressive values. The plain old Democrats let us down once again. And Reid is a complete fucking idiot for allowing this to come to a vote.

Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) was not present for any of the votes, while Obama voted earlier in the day but left for an event in Atlanta.

Thank you.  You can quit asking why Obama missed the vote.  

Link HERE:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/sena te-repudiates-moveon-ad-obama-misses-vot e-2007-09-20.html

"Would love to hear an explanation of that one, Senator Obama."

Todd you already answered your own question...

"Today, the toothless, useless sense of the senate resolution..."

It was a useless vote on a useless measure. I don't care how anyone voted on it. It means nothing.

It is nothing more than an issue for Republicans to run attack ads with come election time.  You vote for it: you avoid a negative spot but vote against free speech; you vote against it: you get hit with attacking the armed forces in the election but support free speech.  Why was this allowed to come to a vote in a Democratic Senate?  It seems like the 3 that didnt vote are the only 3 in the Senate with any political sense.

Can someone list the Democrats who voted Yes on the anti Move on Ad resolution but voted Nay on the Boxer resolution condemning the attacks on Cleland?

Obama's position is my own.

I find the add rather disgusting even though it's true. But I don't care about it either way, it's a non-issue and would be if the Dems didn't care about it.

On balance I think the best thing to do WOULD be to note vote on this one. So kudos to Obama.

WASTE OF TIME TO VOTE ON.... AN EVEN BIGGER WASTE OF TIME TO COMMENT ON!  Let it go, blowing this issue up only shows that you'll yell about ANYTHING that the Dems do.

Both of my Senators in Maryland?  What a disappointment.  This is no legitimate business of the Senate.  These Democratic Senators should call their mothers, spouses or next door neighbors and ask them to give them a good hard slap across the mouth for letting Mitch McConnell pwn them.

"DemZ suxxors weRR in ur Party bEyottch-slaPng yo Mamazz.  pHear R mAdd GOP sqillzors"

It is good to know we don't have real problems to deal with and we can focus on an ad.  This reminds me of the great moral outrage people felt after Janet Jackson's nipple was exposed during the Super Bowl.  

Obama voted on the Feingold amemdment after he ducked the vote on the Cornyn amendment. He was in the Senate and hiding when the Cornyn amendment came up.

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET CABLE OR GET YOUR FACTS STRAIT.

This is hilarious.

Pathetic and hilarious. I was watching the whole thing for the last three hours.

Obama Was In Washington D.C. The whole Time

1. He voted Yes on Boxer

2. He refused to come to the floor on the Republican version - which I don't think he should dignify them with a response. He made his point with Boxers Amendment.

3. He voted YES on Feingold-Reid

Instead of talking about this vote, why aren't we talking about the 20 COWARDS who joined Republicans in voting against the Feingold-Reid?

Hmm?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/st ory/0,,-6936980,00.html

Here's how we should deal with the "ducking the vote" issue:

Dems NOT voting against the resolution:

Baucus (MT)
Bayh (IN)
Cardin (MD)
Carper (DE)
Casey (PA)
Conrad (ND)
Dorgan (ND)
Feinstein (CA)
Johnson (SD)
Klobuchar (MN)
Kohl (WI)
Landrieu (LA)
Leahy (VT)
Lincoln (AR)
McCaskill (MO)
Mikulski (MD)
Nelson (FL)
Nelson (NE)
Pryor (AR)
Salazar (CO)
Tester (MT)
Webb (VA)
Biden (DE) absent
Cantwell (WA) absent
Obama (IL) absent

Hugely disappointed in Leahy. I could see how he may not quite "get" the netroots as a generational thing, but then I remember how he used to jam with the Dead...

Yeay for Bernie, as usual.

Obama really sealed the deal for me. What a telling move this was (unless he was off pulling a baby from a burning building or something). I may even have to move Hillary up to my personal #2 spot behind Edwards.

Livid. I am livid. On so many levels.

THIS is the crap the Senate wastes its time on? It can't worry about stopping the war or giving people health insurance or ending global warming, it has to condemn free speech (meanwhile where were all these holier-than-thou assholes when Kerry was being Swiftboated and Max Cleland's patriotism was being attcked?)

And Diane Feinstein? Goddammit, what the f@#$ is her problem? She represents Cali-frickin-fornia, fer goddsake. Why is she always carrying water for the other side? What can be done about her?

Obama released a statement basically saying this garbadge wasn't even worth voting on......perfect.

Lots of spinning by Obama supporters in here.  To be clear Obama ducked this vote, most likely so as to not be on record as for or against the Moveon ad.  That's very DLC of him.

All I can say is I'm really disappointed with the Democrats in the Senate that voted yes or failed to vote.  While in one sense this was a "meaningless" resolution, in another sense, its a very real demonstration of how Democrats have and intend to continue let the Republicans control the debate on Iraq.  The war is not going to end for a really long time.

I've gotten to the point where I hardly care who wins or loses in the 2008.  It hardly seems to make much of a difference since far too many Democrats in Congress side with Republicans.  Retro-active immunity for telecoms spying is another example.  I just can't get my motivated to care about 2008, either the presidential race or congressional races.

Obama: The Audacity of "NOPE."