If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative

We've spent months debating which of the candidates would make the best nominee and president. But no less important than what these candidates would do is what their victories would mean. There will be a story line coming out of the primary, and it will have a huge impact on the battle between the two wings of the Democratic Party, the PPs (progressive-populists) and the CCs (centrist-corporatists.)

Clinton Captures the Iowa Caucuses, Secures Frontrunner Status

By MIKE GLOVER, January 4

Des Moines, Iowa (AP) - Senator Hillary Clinton won the Iowa caucuses here yesterday, securing her frontrunner status and positioning herself to sweep through the nominating contests. The victory was vindication for both the Clintons' vaunted political machine and the Democratic political establishment, which in large measure rallied behind the Senator.

"Voters made the safe choice, probably a wise choice," said David Gergen, former advisor to presidents both Democratic and Republican. "Voters opted for experience over change, toughness over vision, and, you could argue, competency over character."

She held off spirited challenges from two candidates--Barack Obama and John Edwards--who both cast themselves as outsiders confronting a system embodied, they asserted, by Senator Clinton. The loss was a blow particularly to Edwards, who unlike Obama, may not be competitive in New Hampshire and beyond.

Observers said the loss called into question Edwards's strategy of using a populist message to try to appeal to the party's activist base. "He made the same mistake that Howard Dean made in 2004," said Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute. "You can make some noise running left but you can't win a primary. Will these candidates ever learn?"

An Obama victory would be more ambiguous. An Edwards victory would be a jolt to the central nervous system of the Democratic Establishment.

More than his rivals, Edwards has run as a progressive.  A movement progressive, if you will. What does that mean, to run as a progressive? It means that that you call yourself a progressive. Also that you reject Republican frames and build progressive ones. And lead on issues of importance to progressives. It also means that you stand with progressives. All those "special interest" groups that centrists blame for the failure of Dems? Edwards wants their support, aligns himself with them. Meanwhile he spurns the special interest group that's actually harmed the party: corporations.

Edwards is doing what no other presidential candidate is doing, has ever done: trying to create a labor-green-netroots coalition. He's focusing on economic justice, climate change, and issues that most animate the sphere, like foreign policy, media conglomeration, and internet freedom. His outreach to the netroots hasn't been flawless--he should've made civil liberties a priority and spoken out against the red baiting of Move On--but if the sphere has failed to coalesce behind him, the fault is not his.

He's had success wooing progressives--partial, yes, but partial it could only be given the celebrity and money of his rivals. Edwards has won important union endorsements, and he's likely to get the backing of UNITE-HERE, a particularly vibrant union, and its powerful Nevada affiliate, Culinary Workers Local 226. A Teamsters endorsement is also a possibility. He's also won raves from ACORN, a leading grassroots anti-poverty group, and the endorsement of Iowa for Sensible Priorities, which seeks to reduce the military budget. Issues related to economic justice are closest to JRE's heart (I'd argue that they should be closest to the heart of the movement), but he has also embraced rhetoric and positions that have won him the only major environmental endorsement so far and an intense following in the sphere. Although few elite bloggers have backed him with endorsements or fundraising appeals, Edwards has more support in the sphere that any other candidate.

An Edwards loss would be a loss for the progressive wing of the party. Never mind that the loyalties of progressives are divided, the MSM and the Democratic establishment would claim that the loss demonstrates the folly of trying to appeal to progressives. Of running left.

Yesterday at HuffPo Tom Edsall asked a group of (male) writers if the Edwards campaign provided a fair test of populism. Most gave the correct answer: No. As Chris Bowers said:

Media, money, identity, along with pre-established name recognition, favorability, and image all play roles. It isn't just about the candidate's message. To date, I think it could be argued that Edwards has actually done quite well, given comparatively low media coverage and money spent in Iowa. He has had little going for him in the state apart from message.

But the patent truth pointed out by Bowers won't matter. The Establishment marginalizes progressive voices, then blames progressivism for their marginalization.

I chose to support Edwards not because I believed he was ideal, but because I believed he was the candidate most likely to reinvigorate the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. The campaign he's run has done nothing but strengthen my belief. It saddens me--frightens me--to think that if Edwards loses, it might be many years before a top-tier candidate runs a comparably progressive and populist campaign.

But there is an alternate scenario, one that we could help to make a reality.

Edwards Captures Iowa Caucuses, Creates Upheaval in the Race

By Mike Glover, January 4

Des Moines, Iowa (AP)  - Former Senator John Edwards won the Iowa caucuses here yesterday, throwing the Democratic nomination process into turmoil. With a reliance on retail politics and a populist message, Edwards defeated two rivals who outspent him more than ten to one. Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will now try to slow his momentum in the nation first primary, to be held in just four days in New Hampshire.

Although Edwards had campaigned heavily in the state and pinned his hopes for capturing the nomination on a win here, it was still a striking upset, one that validated his emphasis on economic inequality. Crisscrossing the state he relentlessly sounded his populist themes, railing against corporate interests which, he said, had corrupted the political system and rigged it against middle and working class Americans.

"This is a real wake up call for the moderates in the party," said political analyst Stu Rothenberg. "This is not Bill Clinton's party anymore. Which means it might not be Hillary Clinton's, either."

An Edwards victory would be great for progressives; what more, really, do you need to know?



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Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (none / 0)

Not much more than you've written.  Too bad I cannot caucus for him in Iowa.


by benny06 on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:09:51 PM EST

A Jolt? (2.00 / 1)

Edwards spent 4 years in Iowa and until recently was the front-runner there. It's well known in political circles that he has the state well organized. I don't think it would at all a jolt. As a matter of fact, he needs to win there or he is a goner.


by RandyMI on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:14:39 PM EST

Re: A Jolt? (2.00 / 2)

I agree that he needs to win there.

But if you don't think an Edwards win would ruin Robert Rubin's breakfast, I'm not sure you know what his message is.


by david mizner on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:18:08 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (2.00 / 1)

this is fairly naive on two counts:

1: positing Edwards as the progressive candidate means ignoring his track record. you're right that he's tried to cobble together a labor-green-netroots coalition, but you're describing his political opportunism in sensing that's where there's a gap in this year's election. you have no reason to assume he'd actually govern in a progressive manner any more than Clinton or Obama would.

2: the jolt would be minimal -- it's just the Iowa caucuses. that Iowa went for the white guy wouldn't be a shock -- he has a strong base there and is neither a woman nor black. but he, frankly, still doesn't stand a chance even with an Iowa victory. Rubin's breakfast will go down fine, who are you kidding?

and marginalizing the historic aspects of Obama's candidacy is, as we say in academia, 'problematic' -- 'nuf said.


by CalDem on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 06:47:19 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (2.00 / 1)

p.s.: by the way, my disagreement with the substance aside, kudos on a very well written diary -- nicely done.


by CalDem on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 06:58:05 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (2.00 / 1)

you have no reason to assume

In fact, we do have reason to assume, because his success as a president will largely depend upon whether he is seen as delivering on his campaign promises, or failing to deliver on them.  Even taking the cynical view that he is simply a politician who is interested in winning, it can only behoove him to try to follow through on the progressive markets he's layed down.

Just as one example, it would make no sense for him not to try to use the bully pulpit, as he has promised he will, to force conservatives in Congress to decide between cooperating on universal healthcare legislation, or explaining to the voters why conservatives in Congress are entitled to healthcare coverage, and regular Americans aren't.

When Democratic leaders establish strong progressive goals - such as the reduction of poverty by one third over 10 years (Edwards) - or a man on the moon in 10 years (Kennedy) - they make it more likely that such progress will see fruition.


Keep it short. DemocraticShortList.com
by Rob in Vermont on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 07:35:07 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (none / 0)

"markets" should read "markers"


Keep it short. DemocraticShortList.com
by Rob in Vermont on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 07:36:05 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (none / 0)

There are different ways of forcing progressive change. Mark Warner did it in Virginia by speaking softly and carrying a large stick. Thats' where I see Obama fitting in - he's got Chicago political goons working for him, afterall:)

With Edwards, it's more of a rhetorical populist approach.

Either can work.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 08:07:14 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (none / 0)

Great points. This is not to say that Edwards would not govern as a progressive (he probably would), but rather, that Obama would as well.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 08:07:51 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (none / 0)

Your stereotyping of middle-americans is a one reason we have Bush in the white house.


by adamterando on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 10:37:46 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (none / 0)

I disagree.  Whether it's well known in political circles or not, the general media narrative will be very close to what David has written.

If you look at the media coverage so far, it has centered on Hillary and Obama plus they have both spent much more money than Edwards in Iowa.  If either Clinton or Obama do not win Iowa, the general media narrative will be shock at the result.


A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy. - Teddy Roosevelt
by minvis on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:21:30 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (2.00 / 1)

I can just as easily see the media downplaying his victory:

John Edwards, who had campaigned the longest in Iowa and led in the polls for most of last year, won yesterday's caucuses. Although his chief rivals, Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama, each led in the polls at various times in the last few months, Edwards was able to regain the lead with a blitz of television ads in the closing weeks of the campaign.

"He was always expected to win Iowa, so this is no surprise," said one longtime Democratic party strategist.  The next contest is only days away in New Hampshire, where polls indicate the Southerner faces an uphill battle.


Keep it short. DemocraticShortList.com
by Rob in Vermont on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 06:48:40 PM EST
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Re: A Jolt? (none / 0)

They'll probably downplay it by repeatedly asking, "But does he have the money to compete in the later states?"

I fear that an Edwards win would help Hillary. If he (or Obama) wins, I hope it's a clean win, and they take out the other candidate and make it a 2 person race post-NH...


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 08:04:35 PM EST
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Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (2.00 / 4)

Noteworthy: Obama has spent $5 million on ads in Iowa and Hillary has spent $3 million whereas Edwards has spent next to nothing (low hundreds of thousands).  The fact that he is still so close to leading without having saturated the Iowa airwaves is a testament to the strength of his candidacy and message.


"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."--John McCain
by lorax on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:19:36 PM EST

Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (none / 0)

Amen.

Though it's worth mentioning that he has some big ad buys lately.

I think Obama really HAD to run tons of ads. He wasn't as well known as Edwards (who had been in Iowa since 2003 basically) and Clinton (duh). I don't have much to disagree with RE: Edwards or Obama's strategies in Iowa.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 08:03:17 PM EST
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The one thing I'd disagree with is their splitting of the progressive vote, which sucks.  Of course, I couldn't really expect one of them to withdraw just to spite Hillary.


"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."--John McCain
by lorax on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 04:02:17 PM EST
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Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (none / 0)

But that begs the question what impact you think TV ads have in Iowa.


by risenmessiah on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 10:29:24 PM EST
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Kerry's rise in Iowa in 2004 happened soon after he began advertising heavily in the state.  Meanwhile Dean had been doing so for months and for much of that time was the only one on the air (hence the Dean inevitability narrative).


"I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."--John McCain
by lorax on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 04:00:26 PM EST
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If Edwards captures the nomination that message will be even clearer (I know, I know, one step at a time)


by MassEyesandEars on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:30:57 PM EST

Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (none / 0)

Glover is almost an anagram for...

Gravel Captures Iowa Caucuses, Mass Hysteria, Dogs and Cats Living Together

By Mike Grovel, January 4

Des Moines, Iowa (AP)  - Former Senator Mike Gravel won the Iowa caucuses here yesterday, throwing the Democratic party into absolute chaos.  With a reliance on throwing rocks into ponds, foaming at the mouth debate appearances and a message that all his rivals were corrupt and needed to get off his lawn now, Edwards defeated seven rivals who outspent him more than ten thousand to one.


by jdeeth on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 05:55:54 PM EST

Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (none / 0)

An Obama win would be ambiguous?  Nice try.  An Obama win will shatter the myth that White America will not vote for a Black man.  The story will be he truly reflects the new face of America, America as the melting pot, an immigrant nation, a nation which actually believes in equality.  The story will be we have put our racist past behind us and are ready to move on.  It will say to all African-Americans throw off your fear of being disappointed again and join together to make his nomination a reality.  It will have a tremendous impact in South Carolina, as well as New Hampshire.  An Obama win in Iowa will be the end to the Clinton invincibility story and, most likely, the end to the Edwards campaign. An Obama win in Iowa will be a much, much bigger story than an win there for either of the other two leading candidates.


by Piuma on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 06:21:52 PM EST

Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (none / 0)

David was talking about in terms of what it means for economic/environmental justice. Obama is pretty conservative on many such matters (e.g. his "UHC" plan, "clean" coal, "free" trade, etc.).

Also, Democrats have already been pretty open to African-American presidential candidates in the past. Jesse Jackson did pretty darn good in the primaries in '88 and even won one of those backwards midwestern states that everyone keeps railing against (Michigan).

If Obama won the general election, yes that could be transformational, at least in terms of race relations. But in terms of furthering social democracy and social and economic justice, I don't really think so. At least not compared to if Edwards were president.


by adamterando on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 10:45:33 PM EST
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Right, an Obama victory there would be big for other reasons.


by david mizner on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 10:23:16 AM EST
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"If Obama won the general election, yes that could be transformational, at least in terms of race relations. But in terms of furthering social democracy and social and economic justice, I don't really think so."

If that statement doesn't summarize the sad state of progressive politics in America, I don't know what would. Anybody who believes that a "transformational" event in the history of race relations in America would do nothing to further "social and economic justice" just has no sense of American history and society whatsoever.

In any event, I love Edwards' progressive rhetoric, but I just don't buy it. His record is as a millionaire trial lawyer and centrist Senator who voted for the Iraq War. Sure, he's now running to the left of Obama and Clinton, but it's more likely because he HAS NO CHOICE. Would anybody be talking about Edwards right now if he was running on his Senate record as a centrist?

Obama's been a self-described progressive since Day One in his political career (community organizing on the South Side of Chicago) and he has a consistent record of progressive actions and  achievements to back it up, the most important of which - open government and ethics reform - are fundamental to anything else that progressives might try to do. His platform is solidly, but not exclusively, progressive on most issues and his strategy is based on grassroots campaigning, small donations, and bringing new voters into the process.

That said, I'd love to vote for Edwards for President. I think he'd be great. I just don't think he's the progressive savior that he's being made out to be, and Obama could be.


by dmc2 on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 12:57:30 PM EST
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Don't Forget the Other Party (none / 0)

Back in `88 the Gephardt win got stepped on by Pat Robertson beating Bush Sr. for second on the GOP side.  And because of the simpler process the GOP results should be faster.

My bet right now is the story out of Iowa will be Ron Paul in second place.


by jdeeth on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 06:50:23 PM EST

An Obama victory (none / 0)

Who has been running against the DC Establishment for months and months and months? I think it's Obama. Just because he doesnt' scream and make unreal promises about ending free trade and creating a workers' paradise, doesn't mean he's not an anti-DC candidate.

I love Edwards. I really do. But to say that an Obama victory wouldn't cause a jolt is ridiculous. A Hillary loss will cause the cascading jolt, not Obama or Edwards win. Amongst non-politicos, Hillary is ALREADY NOMINATED. It would seriously shock the system for most casual observers who haven't really followed the race, but regularly vote in the later primary states. In fact - one might say that the jolt will be bigger than the Howard Dean crash, because Dean's support was stronger but smaller, while Hillary's is large but very thin.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 07:55:51 PM EST

Re: An Obama victory (none / 0)

Let me add -

I may have misunderstood this diary. IF you are saying that an Edwards victory would cause a jolt amongst DC Insider Democrats that is greater than a potential Obama jolt, then you are right.

If you are saying that an Edwards victory would cause a jolt in the media that is great than an Obama jolt - then you are wrong.

These are small points - and I feel silly debating the "jolt" - but since this is how we decide our nominee (momentum out of Iowa), it's definitely worth exploring.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 07:57:55 PM EST
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Re: An Obama victory (none / 0)

"Just because he doesnt' scream and make unreal promises about ending free trade and creating a workers' paradise, doesn't mean he's not an anti-DC candidate."

Nice straw man argument by the way.


by adamterando on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 10:47:04 PM EST
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Re: WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (none / 0)

This post is conspiracy oriented (IE: the media/corporations are manipulating everything and flying helicopters over my house!). Nobody is terrified of Edwards (at least as he relates to Hillary or Obama). He's adopted populist tone lately, but he's hardly the first to do so, and he won't be the last. The only big money people who might try to destroy Edwards (for the sake of preserving Obama or Hillary) might be some anti-trial lawyer folks. I dunno.

If Edwards wins, he'll get a big bounce, and throw this race into disarray. And we'll all be better for it. Now get your chin up there!


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 08:01:21 PM EST

Re: WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (none / 0)

The media might be against Edwards if he wins, but it will have nothing to do with big corporations and other conspiracies...it'll be because they are lazy and want to cover Obama and Hillary, not edwards.


Democrats Against Hillary
by wahoopaul on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 12:56:06 PM EST
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Re: If Edwards Wins: The January 4th Narrative (2.00 / 1)

Excellent post David. I think actually Edwards is coming into a good place. He must be pleasantly surprised to see the race shaping up to be similar to '04. Namely, the front-runners starting to really go after each other, while he continues to stay on message and execute his strategy.


by adamterando on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 10:48:36 PM EST


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