Pelosi's Committee Coup

Behold the swirling mass of intrigue, molded by deep-seated loyalties and driven by complex motivations. Of course, I'm talking 'bout the U.S. House of Reps. Pelosi's push this week to create a new Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming was a fascinating peek into the inner-workings of the House and the relationships between the Speaker, Democratic leadership, and the rest of her caucus. Yep, the new panel lacks legislative jurisdiction, but is a platform for raising the profile of climate change. As to be expected, John Dingell -- chairman of the committee that loses ground in this new move and the representative from suburban Detroit -- found this whole reorganization business just simply unnecessary. For the record, though, he objects to the plan on the grounds that it undermines the idea that committees are supposed to serve as long-standing repositories of congressional expertise. Motivating Pelosi? The knowledge that Dingell isn't too keen on the idea that there is a scientific consensus on global warming; the Speaker seems to really want movement on climate change this Congress, and this move puts pressure all around to squeeze something out of the House in the near future.

But oh, there's so much more in this mix! For example: Dingell's chief of staff was a lobbyist and strategist at DaimlerChrysler as late as November. Dingell's wife is the executive director of government relations at GM. Dingell favored Hoyer over Pelosi in the Whip's race in 2001. Pelosi backed Dingell's primary challenger Lynne Rivers in 2002. One House chairman, Henry Waxman is of the opinion that "existing committees can deal effectively with global warming," but worth keeping in mind is that Waxman is next in line for the chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee should the 81 year-old Dingell ever vacate the House.

Just in terms of structure, it's hard not to see this as an end run by Pelosi around the House's committee system and its chairmen. There just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of precedent for what she's done. (Of course, one might argue that there's not a whole lot of precedent for global warming.) The last "non-permanent select committee" was created by Republican leadership to blunt criticism after Hurricane Katrina. The one before that, Homeland Security, was created in the wake of September 11 and soon evolved into full standing committee. This new panel isn't as obviously event-driven and isn't yet designated permanent. Is the idea for it to be short-lived and for climate change and energy independence to revert back to Energy and Commerce when, say, Waxman pries the gavel out of Dingell's hands?

All in all, fascinating to watch Pelosi put her mark on the institution. She certainly doesn't seem to be afraid to shake things up, and we'll see what the caucus' tolerance is for being shaken.



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Is this a Permanent Select Committee, like Intelligence?


by raginillinoian on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 07:59:45 PM EST

Nope (none / 0)

From what the Speaker's office has released, it's along the lines of the House Select "Bipartisan" Committee on Katrina -- in other words, not permanent (at least for now).


by Nancy Scola on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 08:07:52 PM EST
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I remember when Pelosi was elected Minority Leader, I was talking to a conservative friend of mine. He said something like, "Wow, you Democrats really blundered making a San Francisco liberal your leader."

I just smiled and said, "Hmmm, I don't think so. You'll see."

I've been even more impressed with Pelosi than I expected. She's been a really, really adept at creating a powerful momentum among her caucus, and, mostly, she's been on the right side to things. This beginning to her Congress has been pretty amazing. It's early, but she's fractured the GOP pretty completely in the early going.


by BriVT on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 08:01:05 PM EST

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Good stuff.  It would be great to see us start to do more official PR around this issue.  It crosses over partisan lines and is a big winner with the emergence of the religious right's support.


by juls on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 08:12:53 PM EST

here here (none / 0)

Good move. Though I'm not advocating that Pelosi remake the congressional committee structure in her own image, if there's a good reason to make a change she should do it, and this seems to qualify as a really good reason.

It's been a long time since a progressive took a look at the committee layout.


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by msnook on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 03:24:01 AM EST
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Good forPelosi (none / 0)

   Dingell would be an utter disaster for any global warming or environmental committee. His district includes Ford world headquarters. A lot of his constituents are auto workers who think that any government regulation would cost them their job. I support the union, but their short-sighted and selfish policies are dooming their futures (and ours).  


by MarvToler on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 09:04:15 PM EST

Dingell's a threat to US national security (none / 0)

Dingell is a nightmare for America. He keeps blocking US energy efficiency claiming it will cost UAW jobs yet his policies (Republican policies) have  been the ones that have lead to the bankrupting of US car industry and the loss of hundreds of thousands of union jobs.

Pelosi's move is great way around Dingell and gives US a shot at solving the real Iraqi (and Saudi, Iranian, Kuwaiti) threat to US...US oil dependence.

That Dingell is complaining is a good sign.


by BrionLutz on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 09:53:38 PM EST

Ugh. I hate when my respect for policy (none / 0)

and respect for process collide.

On one hand, fuck John Dingell.  On the other, this is bad precedent.  On the other other, end-running around committee chairs is only bad if done by the wrong person for the wrong reason.  On the other other other, that's the whole point of precedent and restricted powers generally: just cause a given power is useful, at the moment, in the hands of someone decent, absolutely does not mean that that power won't get to the wrong person, with the earlier restrictions already usefully broken.  Power always gets into the wrong hands eventually; that's the entire reason that we restrict it so carefully.  That's Founding Fathers stuff.

Oh well.  I support Pelosi's doing this.  If someone as cautious as her is prepared to do it, it is probably the right call.  

This also shows that the institutional structure of Congress is flawed.  We need either termlimited committeechairs, or weakened committeechairs, or both.   It's stupid that the Energy and Commerce Committee has been rendered non-functional by one guy from Detroit.  That's not acceptable, and if the institution has created that situation with its own rules, the institution is flawed.


by texas dem on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 10:13:44 PM EST

curious (none / 0)

Is there any information on who will chair this new committee, or a list of members?


by alw on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 10:37:24 PM EST

No members yet... (none / 0)

But chair is Ed Markey of Massachusetts.


by Nancy Scola on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 10:53:47 PM EST
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What I Think Is Interesting Is The Opposite (none / 0)

Namely, how little she shook things up.  This is the opposite of Newt Gingrich.  Not much sound and fury. Just enough of a shift to send a message and get things moving.

In this week of NYT gender absurdity, dare I say it... a woman's touch?  Oh, just call it what it is.  A light touch by a seasoned pro, whose goals are bigger than her ego.


by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 10:50:32 PM EST

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Tend to agree with you that Pelosi's internal changes have been tame.  I hated Gingrich and his politics but some of the internal changes he made initially like downgrading the Merchant Marine and Post Office Committees should have been made years before by the Dems.  Of course, that would have meant displacing long time chairs and staff so no one did it.

This is nice but really no big deal.  Select Committees, as the press release notes, have no legislative jurisdictions so they are no more than a bully pulpit.  Dingell still has power over any legislation on this subject since it still goes through his committee.  If Pelosi had wanted to be bold, she should have taken the Energy and Environment piece of Energy and Commerce and made it into a full committee rather than a subcommittee.  My guess is she didn't have the support to do that so we instead have a Select Committee.  


by John Mills on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 10:23:38 PM EST
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We Don't Really Know, But (3.00 / 1)

My sense is the opposite.  Not that she didn't have the juice to do it, but that she did, and didn't want to rub Dingle's nose in it.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 01:49:12 PM EST
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John Dingell (3.00 / 3)

But oh, there's so much more in this mix! For example: Dingell's chief of staff was a lobbyist and strategist at DaimlerChrysler as late as November. Dingell's wife is the executive director of government relations at GM. Dingell favored Hoyer over Pelosi in the Whip's race in 2001. Pelosi backed Dingell's primary challenger Lynne Rivers in 2002.

For what it's worth, John Dingell is still a good person and a good representative. He's been representing Detroit or its suburbs since 1955, and when your district (and, for that matter, your state) is so tied to the auto industry, it's hard to do anything that could jeopradize them. My father, in a rural area far away from Detroit, had neighbors complain when he bought a his Honda Civic, a "foreign car"-- it's a big deal to a lot of folks.

As for Lynn Rivers, it wasn't so much a primary challenge as bad Republican redistricting. Dingell's and Rivers' districts were merged, forcing two popular Democratic incumbents to face one another. It wasn't cool.

But Dingell is still great on a lot of issues-- labor, welfare, healthcare, etc. Remember, his father (who held the district before him) helped create Social Security, and Dingell himself helped create Medicare. And he still introduces his father's Universal Health Care bill every session of Congress.


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by Fitzy on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 11:07:26 PM EST

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My father, in a rural area far away from Detroit, had neighbors complain when he bought a his Honda Civic, a "foreign car"-- it's a big deal to a lot of folks.

That bias against Japanese cars was very common in Michigan for many years. However, I saw it recently (1986-2005) in the 40-employee not-for-profit where I worked in Illinois. It's only been in the last few years that upper level managers bought Toyotas rather than Ford, GM or Chrysler vehicles.


by Books Alive on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 12:18:57 AM EST
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For a home town paper perspective, read this article from the Detroit Free Press.


by lpackard on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 12:11:54 AM EST

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"John Dingell is still a good person and a good representative. He's been representing Detroit or its suburbs since 1955, and when your district (and, for that matter, your state) is so tied to the auto industry, it's hard to do anything that could jeopradize them"

Everything Dingell did jeopardized US auto workers and US auto industry.  US car industry is dead, GM and Ford laying off thousands, shutting factories, losing market share, losing billion$ and going bankrupt.

It is fair to call Dingell's policies anti-American...they killed off US car industry, they increased US oil imports.  An enemy could not hope for more damage than Dingells shortsighted policies have done to the US.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:39:22 AM EST

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I am not a big fan of Dingell's constant harping for the auto industry and the UAW or his opposition to increased CAFE standards, etc.  However, the US auto industry largely did themselves in by refusing to innovate.  I don't think Dingell, despite his perceived Congressional power, had much role in it.  All you have to do is watch Who Killed Electric Car which largely chronicles GMs removal of the EV1 in CA in 2003-04 to see how incredibly shortsighted this industry.  


by John Mills on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 10:16:52 PM EST
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"However, the US auto industry largely did themselves in by refusing to innovate.  I don't think Dingell, despite his perceived Congressional power, had much role in it."

Dingell has a huge role in it by keeping US mpg standards low. He has kept the US hostage to oil imports and made US car makers weak in a protected market that favored fuel inefficiency.

Ironically US mfgs did OK in Europe where they had to compete in a world market.

So Dingell sacrificed US and sacrificed US car industry.


by BrionLutz on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 12:26:16 AM EST
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"US car makers weak in a protected market"

Agree about CAFE standards.  However, in what way is the US car market protected?  There are no import limits and imports have been flooding into the US for close to 40 years and slowly but surely eroding US car companies market share.  I am no fan of Dingell on these issues but I think his role in this has been marginal.  He doesn't run the big automakers who have made the decision not to pursue things like Hybrid motors and to abandon their electric car programs.  Detriot and Americans are obsessed with big cars, powerful motors, cheap fuel.  Most Americans want their big, gas guzzling SUVs even though they don't really need them.  That is why we are where we are.

The European market is different b/c they tax the crap out of gas so it costs more than 2 times per gallon than in the US.  I'd love to see us do that but I also live in a major city with great public transportation so it isn't really going to impact me.  The American public won't go for it.  They went nuts in 1993 when Clinton proposed a very modest increase in the gas tax.


by John Mills on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 10:44:18 AM EST
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"Agree about CAFE standards.  However, in what way is the US car market protected?"

CAFE standards.  US car mfgs. could build inefficient cars for their base market.  European/Japanese could only build efficient cars for the world market.

Chrysler went out of business. Ford and GM are going out of business.

Dingells was the enabler of the suicide by oil addiction of the US auto industry.


by BrionLutz on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 02:42:41 PM EST
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I see where we disagree.  You think the American car companies are going out of business b/c of fuel economy and I think they are going out of business b/c they build boring, unimaginative cars which are behind their foreign competitors in terms of technology.

I do blame Dingell and many others for our failure to raise CAFE standards and reduce foreign oil dependence.  However, since many Japanese and European brands have built big, hulking gas guzzlers (see the Honda Pilot and Toyota Land Cruiser to name 2) to compete with American brands I don't think that is the main reason why American car companies are in trouble.  It is not as though boatloads of people are trading in their SUVs to buy Honda Civics like in the 1970s.  Yes, they are trading down to Ford Escapes and RAV-4s but those things don't get particularly great mileage.  It's just better compared to the Chevy Tahoes of the world.

American cars/trucks are ugly, boring and all look the same.  Plus, they are generally behind in terms of innovative features.  The last truly innovative American car I can remember was the Ford Taurus and that was introduced in 1986.  That says a lot about the lack of imagination in Detroit.

With regards to Europe and Japan, they force the market to deal with MPG by increasing the price of gas through high taxes.  Unfortunately, we are unwilling to do that.


by John Mills on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 09:22:49 PM EST
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"You think the American car companies are going out of business b/c of fuel economy and I think they are going out of business b/c they build boring, unimaginative cars which are behind their foreign competitors in terms of technology."

It is totally technology, the cars themselves are less technically advanced and the US production techniques are less technically advanced.

It is rooted in energy costs, artificially cheap energy costs championed by Dingell in form of low mpg standards have killed US car industry.

They have tried to build to the "fat oil" US market and have gotten killed by the two fuel efficiency leaders in world market, Toyota and Honda.


by BrionLutz on Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 01:04:07 AM EST
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The US auto industry is already dead, it's just going on its remaining momentum.  It's time for the rest of the country to start looking to its economic survival: universal healthcare, balanced tax system, higher savings rate, energy efficiency, etc.

I like Pelosi's style, better than I expected.  It might have been politically smarter to draw out the passage of popular policies (100 days rather than 100 hours) but I applaud that she's short-circuiting the ossified committee structure.  Clearly on global warming we cannot wait for the slow wheels of government reform to turn around.  Read the Stern Report out of the UK.

I also applaud that she tried to keep the AIPAC stooge Hoyer out of the #2 slot.  He will cause trouble for her in the future, but at least she tried.


by Taylor26 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 05:57:27 AM EST

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What Pelosi is doing is not entirely unprecedented. Speakers used to do this kind of thing all the time before 1910.

What's interesting is that Pelosi's usurpation of committee prerogatives is part of a long trend of the weakening of committee chairs - which started in 1974 and has continued ever since. The Speaker's increasing power is more apparent than real, though. It's not that position that has gained influence, but the party caucus. Pelosi could never have done this if she didn't have the support of a large majority of House Democrats.


by thirdestate on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 06:56:59 AM EST

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the policies that the big three have been pushing including the unions,is why toyota is going to be number 1 in the very near future.I,ve owned chevys and pontiacs for 20 years but if chevy doesnt wise up that well soon change.


by idahojim on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 08:32:37 AM EST

Yo Dingell...next car's a Toyota! (none / 0)

Always gone out of my way to buy American on the car...much abuse from my Audi, Honda, Toyota friends...but the 2002 Explorer was my last US car.

Toyota is building the high mileage hybrids US needs  and building them in the US so next car will be one of the Toyota hybrids.

Dingell's "shielding" the US car mfg. from the real world has meant they cannot compete in the real world where smart governments or poor people demand fuel efficiency.

Pelosi offers some hope that US energy mfg won't suffer a similar fate as German, Japanese, Korean and Chinese blaze ahead on the alternative energy industry while US industry is killed off by Dingell and his allies.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 11:06:45 AM EST
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Pelosi likes living dangerously (none / 0)

My own effort on the subject was evidently too cryptically headed! ;)

When Nancy says

it's hard not to see this as an end run by Pelosi around the House's committee system and its chairmen.

At one blow, she's given the committee chairmen en bloc a reason to distrust her. There was no way she could have singled out old man Dingell with this exercise. In fact, I'd be pretty sure she had no intention of doing so.

Ever since Rules was enlarged in 1961 to dilute the power of chairman Howard Smith of VA, through the reforms of the 70s (mostly driven by liberals under the banner of the Democratic Study Group and like groupings) and the Gingrich reforms of the 90s, the momentum has been towards stacking the game in favor of the leadership against the chairmen.

Perhaps the 110th is when the empire strikes back.

Put it this way, if Pelosi were, on the strength of her coup to emulate her remote cousin Mussolini with his arms-akimbo, eyes closed, chin stuck out, nodding display of hubris - il duce ha sempre ragione-style  - she'd be very unwise, I'd say.

She's not exactly been deft with her handling of committee chairs to date - there was Harman/Hastings, for one - and, if I were her, I'd not be poking any other chairman in the eye for the while.

(As well as Waxman, Rangel has said he's not a sure vote for EIGW.)


by skeptic06 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 01:07:37 PM EST

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Outstanding.  The republicans have no chance in 08!


by USAagain on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:23:59 PM EST

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"Energy and Commerce when, say, Waxman pries the gavel out of Dingell's hands"

Waxman will fight any attempt to take the legislative jurisdiction out of Energy and Commerce because he is going to be chair soon.  

FWIW - Waxman has always been good on these issues and had the skill to pass the 1990 Clean Air Bill despite opposition from Dingell and Bush I's.


by John Mills on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 10:36:55 PM EST


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