Great Quotes From Early In the Connecticut Campaign

Also in response to the claims that I was spinning and / or playing the expectations game in my first post today, how about if I simply reply by saying that I didn't want to end up sounding as short-sighted as these various prognosticators on the race now sound?

The Weekly Standard, May 5th:
The other bit of comforting news comes from lefty blogger Markos Moulitsas. A recent poll from Quinnipiac put Sen. Joe Lieberman ahead of his super-liberal primary challenger, Ned Lamont, by some 40 points. A new Rasmussen poll says that Lieberman's lead is 20 points. Here comes the good news. Yesterday Moulitsas eagerly told his readers that Lamont is "within striking distance."

If the Democrats keep up that kind of wishful thinking, maybe they will find a way to lose what should be a big electoral victory for them in November.
Minipundit, May 2:
It's worth pointing out: Joe Lieberman is going to be a Senator from Connecticut at least until 2012. The polls are definitive. He's defeating his antiwar primary challenger, Ned Lamont, by 65% to 19%. Lamont can't possibly close a 46% gap. No candidate can.
Connecticut College Republicans, May 2:
Finally, Alan Schlesinger spoke... He flat out stated that if Lamont ran as a Democrat and Lieberman as an Independent that he would almost certainly be able to win, drawing historical parallels similar to those drawn by GC here on the blog.
Bull Moose, 2/17:
The good news that the good voters of his home state treasure Joe as much as the Moose.(...) It has long been the Moose's view that there is a gap between the loudest voices of the left-wing blogosphere and its like minded activists and actual rank and file Democratic voters.
If Connecticut voters like Lieberman as much as Bull Moose does, then I guess Bull Moose doesn't like Joe Lieberman much anymore.

Greg's Opinion, 2/16:
Chris Bowers goes off his usual cliff in deducing that these numbers mean that Ned Lamont is "right where we want to be" ... 55 points down with six months to go!(...)

I'm just really curious what the party line of the far left will be after Joe wins the nomination. Perhaps ... just perhaps ... it'll be as riddled with misconceptions and "facts" as the explanations for Dean's downfall in early 2004.
Of course, I didn't actually say that Lamont was "right where he wants to be," as a commenter to that blog forced the author to admit. But I wonder if Greg still thinks my early claim back in February, that Lamont has a real chance, was akin to going off a cliff.

There is a lesson in these quotes for all of us: don't be overconfident.



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R (3.00 / 1)

Well, I sure hope that many on the liberal blogosphere learn a lesson from this too, and stops saying things like "Harold Ford is through" or (a couple of months ago) "Sherrod Brown can't possibly win now" and other such stuff.  It ain't over till it's over.  That includes our defenses, too.  We can't afford to say that any potentially competitive seat is out of reach for either the Dems or the GOP just because of what some poll several months out tells us.


by Ryan Anderson on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 04:06:24 PM EST

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Saying "Harold Ford is through" is less an example of underconfidence than of wishful thinking.


by craverguy on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 10:17:29 PM EST
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Connecticut Campaign (none / 0)

I think Chris is right to caution us about the outcome here.  We can't underestimate the power of the infrastructure that the establishment Democrats have.  GOTV is their strong suit.


by global yokel on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 04:14:38 PM EST

Wouldn't it be nice... (3.00 / 4)


   ...if this powerful infrastructure were put to work against Republicans?
by Master Jack on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 07:48:14 PM EST
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice... (3.00 / 1)

Seriously.  Isn't one of the reasons we're running insurgent candidates that establishment Democrats are terrible at winning?


by wilder on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 08:29:39 PM EST
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Re: Great Quotes (none / 0)

Ah come on man, I think everyone agrees that we should never be overly-optimistic, I just did not see how 22k new Dem voters are for Lieberman...

However, I don't have a loud microphone that people will go pick apart a few months down the line!


by JAmbro on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 04:21:44 PM EST

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"We can't underestimate the power of the infrastructure that the establishment Democrats have.  GOTV is their strong suit."

Yeah, right. The Democratic GOTV effort really won the day in '04.

Give me a break. Suddenly the DNC GOTV effort is a juggernaut to be feared?

This whole discussion is becoming bizarre.

Time for me to check out of the conversation. Please resume your regularly scheduled Fret Fest.


by Thresholder on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 04:22:51 PM EST

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at first I didn't understand it. now i do- some of you can't handle even the thought that this may not be a cake walk- is that it? that your optimism is based solely on everything being perfectly alligned for lamont?


by bruh21 on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 07:15:56 PM EST
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The Weekly Slander strikes out (none / 0)

...again.

Seriously, what thinkest thou about primary battles as party builders?  


You're nobody...until you've been banned at dkos because you had an original thought or spoke truth to power.
by NorCalJim on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 05:25:55 PM EST

Bull Moose? (3.00 / 1)

Wittman should call his blog "Bull Crap".  It would be more honest--and accurate.  


by KernBlue on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 05:41:16 PM EST

Wittman's a Republican (none / 0)


   He's incapable of being honest and accurate.
by Master Jack on Sat Aug 05, 2006 at 07:49:43 PM EST

Apology, and a Request (none / 0)

Yeah...that was my bad. I corrected the post and endorsed Lamont a few weeks ago. It might be nice if you pointed that out Chris, so that the legions of obscene commenters who flock to my blog might actually be reasonably informed.


by Minipundit on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 12:32:44 PM EST


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