Progressive Blogosphere Not Breaking Through To Mainstream Media

For a long time, I have hoped that the progressive blogosphere would eventually emerge as an important cornerstone of a new progressive media empire that would not only serve as a counterweight to the Republican Noise Machine, but would even come to surpass the efforts of the right. To this end, I have written numerous posts, essays and articles lauding the growing influence of the progressive blogosphere, including the report The Emergence of the Progressive Blogosphere for NPI that I co-authored with Matt. However, after sepnding most of the day compiling research for another project I am working on, I stumbled across some rather disturbing data that indicates the progressive blogosphere is making few, if any, real waves when it comes to influencing the content of the MSM.

In short, it would appear that the world of the blogosphere is almost entirely separate from the world of the MSM. At best, it is a one way street where the blogosphere will comment and act on the content of the MSM, but the MSM will not comment or act back. Look, for example, at the number of hits twelve of the most highly trafficked progressive blogs received in Google News over the past month (I removed hits that came from the website in question or that were not referring to the website in question):

That comes out to a pretty anemic 528 total Google News hits for twelve of the top progressive blogs and bloggers, nearly two-thirds of which come from Dailykos and Juan Cole. Worse, around 80-90% of those hits come from other blogs and/or other sources of alternative news and commentary. While Google News is a crude tool and a Lexis-Nexis search would be more thorough, this search suggests that there were less than 100 print mentions of the top dozen or so liberal blogs in the MSM over the past month. Considering that these blogs combine for well over 1 million readers per day, that is a shockingly small amount of cross media penetration. While progressive blog traffic is growing at a healthy clip, it would appear that the news and commentary world of the blogosphere is only able to reach its audience and spread influence directly through the blogs themselves. Sure, a few blogs make the air for a couple minutes every day on the Situation Room, but it would be reasonable to argue that with the possible exceptions of Juan Cole and Dailykos, our influence reaches only as far as our html can project it onto people's computer screens. We get a few interviews here and there, but really, its not much.

By way of comparison, over the last month Sean Hannity received 550 hits on Google News, and Ann Coulter received 544. It is thus questionable whether or not the entire progressive blogosphere is having as much impact as either of these two pundits are having on their own. As of right now, a sufficient counter to the Republican Noise Machine we are not.

There are probably at least 15-20 people who are trying to live as full-time progressive bloggers in America, and many more progressives with good blogs who would like to make blogging their full-time occupation. While these people are experiencing rapid audience growth, not only do many still have a difficult time making ends meet, but they are clearly struggling to make real waves within the national political discourse. (Hell, even I had to use Google News for this study instead of Lexis-Nexis, to which I should really purchase a subscription). To put this as bluntly as I can, progressives will not be able to break the conservative governing majority over the long term, no matter how narrow it may be, unless we can turn around the rapidly deteriorating media climate in this country. In order for progressives to change the deteriorating media climate in this country, it will be absolutely essential for the new progressive pundit class, which is to be found primarily in radio and the blogosphere, to be funded and cross-promoted. This has to be done, because right now progressive media is just not having the impact it needs to in order to help push the conservative movement in this country out of power.



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fwiw. (none / 0)

Swing State Project is actually ON Google News.  Which, uncovers a deeper problem -- there are many many many more conservative sites that get links on Google News.  Another reason you really need Lexis.

Tim

by Tim Tagaris on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:37:44 PM EST

Question (none / 0)

Did you search for the blog name, or the blog name and the owner's name?  I get some hits on google for Markos Moulitsas that don't seem to have Daily Kos.  (I didn't search for Zuniga because of whacky characters.)
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by ItsDrewMiller on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:39:43 PM EST

Re: Question (none / 0)

In most cases I did both. I didn't do that for Dailykos, however.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:41:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The problem (3.00 / 6)

I think is an assumption that many of us have that stories end up in the media when the media goes out and gets them.  If we think about it for a second, we all know that 9 out of 10 stories end up on a newsdesk because somebody put them there (duy--of course we all know this).

Now...if I were to ask how many hours last week each of us dedicated to putting our stories on the desk of news editors--what do you think the answer would be?

Exactly.  Zilch.

My solution would be to establish some kind of liberal blog consortium press office--that spent 100% of its time working on getting stories onto the desks of major news editors, in both local and national markets.

If we do that, this problem would be solved in a week.

(thanks for this post, by the the way. very interesting topic)

by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:41:39 PM EST

Re: The problem (none / 0)

I agree with this. Part of this strategy should be to hit the MSM outlets with press releases and other progressive news tips not only when the news breaks but again when the news cycle slows down (i.e. on Fridays and Saturdays).  That increases the likelihood that these issues and stories will get covered.
by lalawguy on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:49:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (none / 0)

Great idea.  I would contibute money to such an effort were someone to start it.
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by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:07:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (3.00 / 1)

To add on to what you said...

One of the things I learned at the DFA Training camp I went to last summer in Burlington was about contacting the media.  They said that with media, especially local media, if you give them a well-written press release that basically does all the research and writing for them, they are very likely to use it.  Basically, do the work for the reporter and let them use it since they're too lazy to do it themselves.

Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:23:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (none / 0)

exactly.  which means also that you need to have someone who is paid to write the PRs.  

the type of work I do, for example, is analysis--often times very close analysis that requires a great deal of legwork and processing.  to then have to turn it around into a press release is just too much.  

it's more than just having a good PR also.  It's about having a Press Release come from a professional looking source.  Just a Press Release from a blog will get us nowhere.  But from the National Independent Blog Press Office (eg.) with a logo, letterhead and fax number--that would get there.

by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:27:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (none / 0)

Maybe you could put out a call on MyDD and DailyKos for volunteers to start such an effort?
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by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:31:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

There's A Very Good Model For This Already (3.00 / 2)

The Institute for Public Accuracy, founded by FAIR associate Norman Solomon, has been getting the voices of progressive experts and analysts into the news media for several years now.

They might be interested in taking this on as an additional project, or, at a minimum, offering some advice.

by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 04:08:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

As a former journalist (none / 0)

the problem isn't that they're "too lazy". It's that they're overworked and overstressed. The hours suck, the pay sucks, and with more and more newsroom cutbacks the situation goes from bad to worse.

So yeah, given how much content they need to produce, anything that makes their lives a little easier will be heartily appreciated. We have to take advantage of that weakness the way the Right does.

by kos on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:48:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: As a former journalist (none / 0)

Point taken, and I didn't mean to offend those journalists who do take their work seriously.  Though I would argue that most of the "reporters" on the cable news networks are indeed quite lazy.
Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:55:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (3.00 / 3)

For what it's worth, my humble blog with a very humble readership, still influences coverage of the race to unseat Richard Pombo.

I regularly e-mail the reporters who cover Pombo for the Tracy Press (his hometown paper) and the Stockton Record (the biggest paper in the most populous part of the district).  Plus, I have good relations with the other local bloggers and internet activists who want to take on Pombo.  They have better connects with other reporters who cover the race for other papers, so my good ideas sometimes get sent on to the other local papers.

Sometimes I can tell that my ideas (or those of my internet colleagues) influenced the coverage.  For example, I've sent them contact info of people who have an angle on the race, and have seen the people quoted in the paper a few days later.  All of this happens without much attribution.  But that doesn't mean we aren't having an effect on the media coverage.

Furthermore, as far as I can tell, there's no conservative blog pushing back against what I say and write.  I'm sure the reporters get e-mails and calls from conservatives who want to pitch one angle or another of a story.  

But my blog is actually useful to the reporters because I give them information that they don't already have. And looking at my site meter confirms that ever when I don't send them stories, they read what's on my blog.  So when I do write them, I think they give it a bit more weight than if I were just some schmo.  (Well I guess I am just another schmo, but I'm a schmo with a blog which makes me a slightly less smaller fish in a really small pond).  

Visit my blog Say No to Pombo
by Matt Lockshin on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 04:15:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (3.00 / 1)

This post was so similar to my post (downstream) a bit in reference to my own little blog on local issues, it's eerie. I'll take that as evidence that my experience with respect to blogging on state and local politics is not unique. (Of course, as Mr. Rosenburg suggests in response to my post, the dynamics at a local level may be different than the dynamics at the national level.)
by mhojo on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 04:50:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This is so cool (none / 0)

Just had to say that. Congrats on your success. I want that asshole gone.

So how many in the Dem primary? Like 27? Everytime I take a look the Dem primary field has grown.

by kos on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:51:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is so cool (none / 0)

Well we lost a candidate today. So now there are two serious candidates and another guy who's not very credible. I really think the netroots need to pay attention to this race in a big way, especially those of us in the Bay Area.  

I wrote a diary about why here  

Visit my blog Say No to Pombo
by Matt Lockshin on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 08:46:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh Yeah (none / 0)

I get also hits from the House and the Senate (and now also Defenders of Wildlife) every day.  So it's possible (although I don't know how likely) that I might influence the media indirectly through a reader who is more influential or connected (and at this point your average House staffer or Defenders of Wildlife intern is more influential and more connected than I am).
Visit my blog Say No to Pombo
by Matt Lockshin on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 08:54:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The problem (3.00 / 1)

Interesting post. I don't blog much on local issues, but as a kind of niche blogger -- somewhere on the base of the "long tail" -- I've some similar experiences, not so much in getting a lot of notice in the media but in getting stories pushed into the media.

I've seen it happen a couple of times, and experienced it myself when I posted about a gay kids whose parents put him in a reparative therapy camp. It started with me and a handful fellow bloggers who covered it, and it developed into a blogswarm that resulted in the state of Tennessee investigating the reparative therapy camp and ultimately ordering it closed. And that was the result of medium to small progressive blogs pushing a story all the way from a scared teenager's blog to places like the New York Times,  and MSNBC. I've indexed the whole story on my blog.

I've seen it happen few more times on different stories and have had some level of involvement. In every case, medium to smaller progressive blogs band together, get more notice for under reported stories, and sometimes get results. What those bloggers typically don't get is much media attention themselves. In the case above, there was one  podcast that traced the blog activity that resulted in increased attention this tiny story few would have otherwise noticed.

All of that is to say that anything that gets more progressive bloggers media access -- whether national or local -- is a good idea. There are a lot of us just below the radar that routinely picks up on the blogs mentioned in this post. If you want a noise machine, you're already part of the way there. There plenty of noisemakers out there. They just need bigger megaphones.

Terrance Heath
Washington, DC
http://www.republicoft.com
by TerranceDC on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 09:54:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

i signed up for this blog just to post on this... (none / 0)

awesome work chris.

This is a GREAT point.

#1) please cross post this on dailykos

#2) jeff's idea about a progressive story pushing service sounds great ( although i bet it would take more than a week to solve the problem )

by scorinaldi on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:49:47 PM EST

great post (none / 0)

Nice job, Chris.
by Matt Stoller on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:49:49 PM EST

I would add... (none / 0)

That radio and TV are left pretty much out of the equation, and there our penetration is probably low as well.  
by Matt Stoller on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:50:53 PM EST

Hmm looks like we've lost (none / 0)

Doesn't seem like we can do a whole lot on this end.
by MNPundit on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 02:57:49 PM EST

Lexis (none / 0)

Searching LexisNexis news on the past 60 days I get:
41 for Dailykos
46 for Markos Moulitsas
51 for Juan Cole
68 for Josh Marshall
12 for Joshua Marshall
23 for Joshua Micah Marshall
15 for Talkingpointsmemo
122 for Talking Points Memo (includes lots of Bill O'Reilly hits)
46 for Kevin Drum
61 for Atrios
37 for MyDD
31 for TalkLeft
8 for PoliticalWire
8 for politics1
and 11 for Booman.
by phil on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:04:08 PM EST

Re: Lexis (none / 0)

Thanks for that.  Any idea what the results are for Glenn Reynolds, Instapundit, Little Green Footballs, Powerline, etc.?
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by ItsDrewMiller on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Progressive radio (none / 0)

At the moment, it seems like Air America Radio and whatever that network is called that Ed Schultz is on (sorry, I always forget) are about the only "mainstream media" that the left has.  Fortunately, AAR has been growing pretty consistently and rapidly over the past year and a half into new markets (they currently have 84 stations, which is up from the 60 or so last time I checked).

One thing that we could do to help AAR is what a group of women in Baton Rouge did a few months ago.  They got together, talked to the station manager of a local station that was doing poorly, and convinced him that switching formats to AAR would be good business and that the market exists.  To prove there was a market, these 6 women went out and gathered 1500 signatures for the station manager, and then the station switched to AAR.

This is exactly the type of thing that a group of dedicated activists could manage for their local area.  I plan to do this next semester with my Democracy for America group on campus here in Champaign-Urbana, IL.  I urge others to follow suit.

For more information about how to go about doing this, check out these two diaries on DailyKos:
The Air America Recipie
Calling Baton Rouge: A Kossack's Insider Guide to Radio

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by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:06:05 PM EST

In the long run (1.00 / 1)

with cheaper technology and a growing number of liberals it is inevitable that a progressive media will arise.

The question is why it's not here already. There's a huge market for disaffected Democrats and independents - still the MSM try to imitate Faux News whenever they get the chance. Perhaps they are concerned more about indoctrinating people than in making profits? But for how long? Where are George Soros and the other liberal billionaires?

It took the cons 30+ years to build their machine, don't forget. US liberals have probably been the worst incompetents in marketing, organisation and controlling national discourse that this world has ever seen. We even let them demonize the word "liberal". We say "fiscal conservatism" instead of "fiscal responsisbility" and we claim that W is not a real conservative. Fuck that. He is a conservative and this is conservatism: greed, prejudice, cruelty and ignorance.

Let's build a national movement against conservatism - if the Canadians and the Europeans could do it, than we can do it too.

The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:11:22 PM EST

What ever happened (none / 0)

I remember reading stuff written by Kos a while back about a group of progressives, including very wealthy financiers, who are organizing and planning to create their own version of the right-wing think tanks and media empire.  What ever happened to that?
Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:16:40 PM EST

Re: What ever happened (none / 0)

Apparently not much.  Their goal was $200 million or so.  Here's the WaPo article.
by rba on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 06:21:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What ever happened (none / 0)

Thanks.  I just did some searching and found this update on the Democracy Alliance.
Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:27:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What ever happened (none / 0)

Thanks back at ya.  There's a reason visionaries shouldn't be CEOs.
by rba on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 12:32:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Last count (3.00 / 1)

there were up to $55 million, and still going strong. I talked to one donor at a recent event who had committed $800K over the next three years, and was ready to double that commitment and the next Democracy Alliance meeting.

But remember, this is a 10-20 year project. It took the other side 30 years to build their machine.

Incidentally, Jerome and I have a whole chapter of our book on this very topic.

by kos on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:56:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Last count (none / 0)

Sounds good.  Keep us updated if you can.  Any idea what they're going to be funding?
Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 08:06:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well, this is encouraging... (none / 0)

   ...I'm just surprised there's not more mention of this project in the blogosphere. Because this is absolutely critical to building a long-term Democratic majority in America.

   I see what Chris is saying, but on the other hand, I don't think that liberal bloggers should be kicking themselves TOO hard over this. Take this too-familiar sequence:

   1. A story breaks.
   2. The MSM consults with "White House sources", and regurgitates their spin without question.
   3. The story's coverage is drenched in White House/GOP spin and lies.
   4. Liberal blogs note the spin and lies, feature them prominently on their websites, and put all the pressure they can on the MSM to set the record straight.
   5. The MSM shrugs, says "silly us", runs a half-hearted correction on page C-17...and goes on and repeats the exact same cycle of regurgitating Republican lies the next time. Karl Rove can lie to them 547 times, and they'll happily consult him again for the 548th.

   The MSM simply doesn't want to report the truth. Not much we can do about that -- yet. But once liberals do build their own media infrastructure, that will finally change. And let's keep on building the audience for progressive blogs, who DO get enormous amounts of traffic. Because every pair of eyeballs that reads these sites is one less pair of eyeballs believing CNN.

 

by Master Jack on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 08:28:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thanks for the post... (3.00 / 1)

hahaha!

Thanks for the laugh.

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by Fran for Dean on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:17:39 PM EST

Great job Chris!, Implement Jeff! (none / 0)

 Excellent Job Chris.

I agree with Jeff. We should have an organized entity that's focused on daily press releases to the over 1,000 MSM outlets across america. With modern technology, this same stratey is rapidly implemented by highly successful small & medium size business across the country.

With the birth of email, one click sends a press release to thousands of MSM outlets from across the country.

Based on the track record of small businesses, it is not uncommon for a " Good Story" to get picked-up by 10%-20% of your media targeted by email.

I cannot think of a better alternative of quickly gaining MSM attention than by implementing this organized strategy.

Since you are dealing with competing individual MSM editors & journalists, a " Good & Worthy" Story hitting their desks thru email WILL NOT be Ignored.

Its all about the " Numbers Game".

by labanman on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:18:13 PM EST

Question (none / 0)

How many mentions did Radio Liberty, Voice of America or the BBC get in Pravda, Isvestia, or Vremya?

You see the problem don't you?

I think liberal blogosphere needs to concentrate on building audience instead.

by Alice Marshall on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:37:29 PM EST

funding (none / 0)

In order for progressives to change the deteriorating media climate in this country, it will be absolutely essential for the new progressive pundit class, which is to be found primarily in radio and the blogosphere, to be funded and cross-promoted. This has to be done, because right now progressive media is just not having the impact it needs to in order to help push the conservative movement in this country out of power.

Over at Seeing the Forest I suggested creating a foundation called "Liberally Endowed" which would collect small donations into one big pot to be divided by a group of liberal bloggers.

by Alice Marshall on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 03:41:37 PM EST

Metrics (3.00 / 4)

I'm not sure mentions of progressive blogs by name are a  good metric of how much influence they are having.

I've seen a couple of occasions where my little blog on Indiana politics was necessarily the inspiration for a story that appeared in a couple of the Indiana newspapers. I've suspected it on a few other occasions. And I know that local political reporters are reading my blog. But they haven't mentioned me by name in these stories.

I'm not sure how you measure the influence, but I think progressive blogs are a good way to prevent well-funded conservatives from dominating the discourse. Even if the mainstream media isn't mentioning the progressive blog by name, I suspect many reporters are reading these blogs and becoming aware of contrary viewpoints. Perhaps these viewpoints clue the reporters in to what sorts of questions to ask or when not to believe something coming from a conservative source.

by mhojo on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 04:21:29 PM EST

Re: Metrics (none / 0)

You're right to say that there's more influence going on than mere cites indicate, particularly at the local level.  

Above all, that's the level where blogs can regularly provide information that reporters would not get otherwise.  There is simply far too much stuff happening at the local level for any number of local media outfits to cover, and so blogs can really fill in a great deal of information.

But this still doesn't diminsh the fact that (1) liberal & Democratic blogs are not given the attention and recognition they deserve and (2) it would be very advantageous to implement a strategy to rectify this--such as the one that Jeffrey suggests.

by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 04:30:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Metrics (none / 0)

"I'm not sure how you measure the influence, but I think progressive blogs are a good way to prevent well-funded conservatives from dominating the discourse."

I agree. I think Mr. Bowers is too pessimistic. A couple years ago it was not obvious to me at all that Keith Olbermann was a liberal. It is clear now that he is increasingly influenced by the liberal blogosphere and it shows in his reporting. Journalists are reading and being influenced by liberal blogs whether or not they credit them. The right has been "working the refs" for years. The liberal blogosphere and Air America are finally starting to provide a counterbalance. Also, the positive reinforcement that is provided for courageous Dems in Congress is invaluable.

But most importantly, truth is on our side. An ounce of truth trumps a pound of bullshit. The left doesn't need to match the right decibel for decibel to win. We just need to be on the same order of magnatude. Just look at where public attitudes are compared to two years ago. We are winning and liberal blogs are a big reason for that.

miasmo.com
by miasmo on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 05:22:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

MSM (none / 0)

What liberal media?
by Ken Camp on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:13:44 PM EST

progressive blogosphere (none / 0)

As a blogosphere addict, without the benefit of your experience, I respectfully see the situation differently.

  1. The blogosphere is a guerrilla effort. To try to get the MSM to acknowledge the blogosphere is like trying too hard to get the class bully to notice you. The harder you try, the more you work against your cause, conceding the POWER to the bully to acknowledge you, to recognize you, to make you a someone.

  2. Why does the blogosphere need to be recognized by the MSM, a house of cards that is rapidly rendering itself irrelevant and a joke?

  3. Seems as though when guerrilla efforts go mainstream, they lose their fire in the belly. Witness moveon; witness Woodward.

  4. I want to be informed, which I am by the blogosphere. What I find lacking and what I believe the progressive bloggers could do to strengthen and gain ground: Blog writers should give the reader a link to a way they can take action on any particular issue being discussed. Often, all I read is well-deserved spewing of anger. But after reading the spew, I'd like to know who to irritate to make a difference. Often, I research for hours, until I find where I should make commotion. Then I compose a concise e-mail with a call to action and e-mail links and send it to my mailing list. I think if the blogs did this with every issue: gave a call to action, a link, and a command to "send this to at least 10 people you know," the guerrillas would win while the MSM fiddled.

FWIW - my contrarian take
by alternative on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:16:04 PM EST

I'm not surprised ... (none / 0)

We can't denounce corporate media as being censored, rigged and controlled by neoConservatives on one hand; and then act surprised when we find they are ignoring important non-Conservative voices.  

It's not an honest game. They don't like us. They aren't going to give us a voice, no matter what we say. We ought to realize it going in.  That doesn't mean that we can't play the game and win; just that we certainly aren't going to win if we pretend it's an honest game.

I love some of the suggestions in this thread. We should indeed make sure that every major media outlet hears from progressive blogs every day. We also ought to sue them; not to win, but to make news from the repeated claim that they are indeed biased, and to keep the pressure on.

bb

by blue73 on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 07:17:30 PM EST

interesting data, good post ! (none / 0)

I wonder about the fugitive data vis a vis attitude change in the media?  

I mean, I sense a "sea change" in the  attitude of the media over the past year.  I think that they all read the Blogs but don't acknowledge they do.  It is like mental masturbation, it can't help but influence how folks see things.

And it is free grist for their mill.  Free research.  Free words and thoughts, when you deal in words and thoughts,  have a big influence.

I have made my living doing media relations at various times and I can tell you with certainty that the accusation that the media is lazy is pretty accurate.  An agency that placed the important stories in their email and on their desks would be worth its weight in gold.

by Keone Michaels on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 08:03:21 PM EST

Lexis Access (none / 0)

Chris, if you ever need access to Lexis-Nexis (Academic version) just give me a holler.  I'll see what I can do to help you out.

Email: [username]@gmail.com

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by KansasNate on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 08:51:24 PM EST

We need our own national tabloid (none / 0)

Glad people mentioned radio & TV, but they left out an important component: newspaper. Not serious-minded stuff like the centrist NYTimes, but a down-and-dirty tabloid. Like the right-wing NYPost. Like the right-wing Washington Times. Like the right-wing Wall Street Journal. Somebody who can go for the jugular. With a base of consistently hard-hitting liberal columns (I'm talking, somebody hire kos and Duncan Smith to write bi-weekly columns for this thing), and cover stories like "Impeach Bush!" Or (to steal the New Republic's example from their very good article back in '04 pointing out this lack), with the 9/11 widows on the front and a headline that reads: "Bush killed our husbands."

Repeated. Many times. Funded by a liberal sugar daddy who's prepared to lose $10 million a year (because that's what the Post & WashTimes lose) to get his message into public discourse.

Heck, I'd edit the darn thing for a low salary (I'd like to be the left's Robert Bartley) if someone'd only fund it. Any takers?

by InspectorHound on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 10:33:33 PM EST

Insiders (none / 0)

It seems to me the key is to have insiders in the MSM, who pick up on the points made in the blogs. Conservatives seem to already do this, which is why they may have an influence disproportionately large compared to their actual readership.

Also, bloggers actually appearing in the MSM would help. It seems whenever I watch CNN or MSNBC, most of the bloggers that are brought on are conservatives. (I think I've seen Matt on TV, but few other lefties.)

Why don't Kos, Armando, Chris, etc. ever appear on these shows? I can't believe they're not being asked (especially in the case of Markos, who runs the most widely read political blog on the planet.)

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by LiberalFromPA on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 11:38:13 PM EST

Isn't trying to break through MSM futile? (none / 0)

Breaking through MSM is a difficult proposition. The Conservative Movement's lead is too great. Barring a revolution, it is almost impossible to catch up.

For one, as was mentioned above, just in terms of time-span, they have a 30-year lead. During that time, their efforts to neocon the media have been tremendous and have produced really blatant results. With this has come a power that they will not relinquish easily. But more importantly, at the heart of this subversion of the media into a uniform mega voice lies a mission. As Thom Hartmann said: "Trillions are at stake in this transformation of America from its founding ideal of government of, by, and for We, The People, into a neo-feudal state ruled by corporate-CEOs-turned-politicians and operated on the ancient but corrupt principle of crony capitalism and rule-by-the-rich."

Certainly at this point, there is no one on the radar screen that looks remotely capable of countering such force, definitely not without money, and even more money! Through the 1990s, writes Robert Parry, "the conservatives poured billions of dollars into their media apparatus, which rose like a vertically integrated machine incorporating newspapers, magazines, book publishing, radio stations, TV networks and Internet sites."

As for influence peddling, just read this commentary delivered at The Heritage Foundation on how think tank operatives are trained to influence the media. It is a full-time job! Hence, when trying to break through the media, besides lack of funding, such is the competition that bloggers face, from politicians to lobbyists to all sorts of fundamentalists with power, money and connection. My gut feeling? No way!

And so, to cut a long story short, I believe that progressive bloggers are wrong to want to "break into" main-stream media. At the risk of repeating myself, I believe that such a task is all but impossible. There MUST be other ways to spread the progressive message. I think the infrastructure exists: resistance radios, local papers as was mentioned upthread, flyers, blogs, etc. What is lacking is a unifying message. That is a whole new proposition! How does one get from the current progressive cacophony (dealing with important topics, for sure but ...) to a state where people are touched, inspired and want more of what progressives have to say and to offer?

by Freedom on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 01:08:14 AM EST

It takes work to pay attention (none / 0)

Ann Coulter makes news, for example, by calling for the murder of journalists and other outrageous statements.

Is that influence? Perhaps she's marginalized herself, but there's no question that conservative voices, no matter how wacked, get access to the cameras and newspapers and skew the debate way right of the mainstream public. They provide simple, simplistic sound bites, playing right into the medium. (And the medium is the message, right?)

What's the message of the internet medium?

Here's something I've noted in my own stats: Links from the biggest sites above, with the exception of Atrios, seem to generate precious little traffic. Sites like Daily Kos are so insular, even a FP mention will generate only a few curiosity hits, while a casual oh-by-the-way link in a modestly trafficked site could generate hundreds of hits. (Now, before the army of consent descends upon me claiming I'm simply attacking Daily Kos, let me say categorically that I'm not. Sure, I have my issues with the site and some personalities there, but this is about the greater "progressive blogosphere" as a whole, which is orders of magnitude larger. Having the biggest blog on the internet is great for the vaguely Democratic/progressive/liberal causes, but it's not enough. The internet rewards internetworking, not just isolated size.)

This is not a new criticism: The big sites tend not to link to the smaller sites. The "Top 100" pay attention to each other, but the real strength of the progressive blogosphere is in the thousands upon thousands of very sharp smaller blogs out there. (Where would many sites be without Peter Daou constantly linking out to mid-sized sites?)

The internet rewards communities across websites. The internet rewards conversations between websites. The internet rewards relevance, which is measured by in-content links from other sites of relevance. This is the state of SEO today.

And blogrolls are mostly ignored by the search engines now -- certainly deprecated. The relevance comes from in-content linking. And there's precious little of that from the big blogs because everybody's looking one way, and the big bloggers don't see the smaller sites behind them.

With all the heated debates on the left-of-right perspectives of the major issues, it would seem that there's plenty of opportunity to link out -- to post a dissenting opionion, for example. But unfortunately there seems to be a mindset on the part of many big bloggers that dissenting opinions should be ignored rather than engaged, preferring to do their part to help a website drift off "in obscurity." If we cannot embrace the dissent within our vaguely-defined "ranks", then how can we expect more progressive influence? If we're so busy ignoring each other, then how can we expect others to pay attention?

Changing this paradigm may not affect how the MSM treats the blogosphere, but it WILL affect how Google News treats these hits. I have some email alerts for Google News, and in the results I'd say 2/3 are mainstream news sources and 1/3 are conservative sites (like "LifeNews"). Every now and then a liberal voice comes through, but that seems very rare in my experience. Does Google have a news bias?

But here we are, 7+ years since the Cluetrain started, and we who are most advantaged by these trends collectively continue to fail to appreciate it, and act upon it.

Cross-linking helps. And that takes effort, work, time. But with money or not, people already are blogging the heck out of the topics of the day from a progressive perspective. The real question, perhaps, is not whether they should be paid by a thinktank, but rather why so many excellent voices languish in obscurity, ignored not just by Google News and the MSM but by their peers.

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by media girl on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 11:02:01 AM EST


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