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Re: I may be confused... (none / 0)

BHO is very likely to meet the threshold before the convention (I'd say around middle of June). Care to take a wager? The only reason this ain't over thus far is because the superdels are waiting for the "vetting" process to play itself out.

Once Obama gives his speech regarding the role of race in the nomination process thus far (and in American society in general), the superdels will have had all their concerns addressed (in no small part due to Hillary fighting tooth and nail for the nomination; so she definitely deserves kudos in that respect).

A whole can of whupass is about to open up on HRC regarding her prevarication on things like earmarks, Clinton library donations, business/PAC/lobbyist connections, tax returns etc.

Face it. Every single so-called scandal that was supposed to have decimated the Obama campaign has, heretofore, done squat to slow him down. Obama will most likely be the Democratic nominee for POTUS. And he's gonna win with or without your vote. So stock up on the Xanax -- you're evidently going to need lots it!


I love all people ... even fundamentally flawed ones -- me.
by pitahole on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:12:57 PM EST
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Re: I may be confused... (2.00 / 3)

Of course, Obama doesn't need boomers, the working class, Catholics, or Latinos to win the General.
He'll have all those Repub and Indy "Dems for a day" standing in longgggg lines to vote for HIM.
Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:33:46 PM EST
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right (none / 0)

and Clinton does not need Obama supporters


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:43:47 PM EST
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Re: I may be confused... (2.00 / 1)

Bill Clinton himself said that most Democrats think both candidates would make a good President, they just favor one or the other right now. I really don't find this notion that even a significant minority of people will wake up after we choose a nominee, either one, and say "well... I used to care about the economy and the courts, I thought health care was a good thing, the war mattered to me, but, well, gee, I guess I'll just vote against my conscience and my values and everything I wanted for the country, 'cuz gosh darn it, the other person beat my favorite candidate." I really can't see any likelihood of that happening outside a few pissed-off residents of the blogosphere. I suppose it's a bit more likely if Hillary were the nominee; Obama's supporters do have a higher percentage of Independents and weak Republicans who might switch over. Even then, though, they're looking for some level of change, and McCain sure likes more of the same even more than does Hillary Clinton. I'm not saying either can just take the others' supporters "for granted". There needs to be reaching out and inclusion. There needs to be some time for people to adjust and come together. But I've seen people jumping up and down saying that people will never support <X> if they support <Y> now... and it very seldom happens that way. Polling data also partly contradicts your view, or at least says it makes less of a difference than you're thinking. In Ohio, for instance, both candidates poll the same vs. McCain. That's true in some states. In others there's a little swing either way... in a few bigger swings. But in very few of them (Arkansas may be the only counterexample, and there are obvious reasons for it) is the swing so pronounced that you could conclude that the voters are saying, if not Hillary/Obama than McCain, in any truly large number.
by Texas Gray Wolf on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 11:40:43 PM EST
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Re: I may be confused... (none / 0)

I'll take that wager. What are we wagering that no one will meet the threshold before convention? That is unless a mutual deal is strike by BOTH candidates?


by Marvin42 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:34:54 PM EST
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Re: I may be confused... (none / 0)

Ohmygod ... that is so pathetic.

Your guy's chances of winning in November are absolutely crashing down all around your feet (just look at the reaction on that graph) and as long as he wins the nomination you really don't care ... I'm not sure there's a word for that level of cynicism. So much for "hope" ...


by ColoradoGuy on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:32:53 PM EST
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