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Re: The racial graph (2.00 / 1)

This is just the start and I was watching CNN Election Center, where Steve Kornacki of NY Observer said this is powder material for GOP.

If we nominate Obama now, down-ticket people in WV, MO, KS, AR, etc. will be hurt. Gone are those comments that Obama was "clean". With this "spiritual mentor", that is not the case.


by American1989 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 08:40:44 PM EST

Re: The racial graph (2.00 / 1)

And I remember when the pundits said that Bill Clinton couldn't be elected in 1992, and when they said that Hillary Clinton couldn't be elected to the Senate in NY, and when they said that Bill Clinton would have to resign because of the accusation of the affair with Monica.

Really, folks, you might want to rethink your faith in the punditocracy.


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by politicsmatters on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 08:56:39 PM EST
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Re: The racial graph (2.00 / 1)

there is a big difference. people can forgive and forget sex scandals; but for this American hating preacher, this does have problems. And, our country isn't completely over the issue of race, so this brings up the divisions. hillary in NY was just another thing


by American1989 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 08:59:27 PM EST
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Re: The racial graph (2.00 / 0)

So what? This isn't Obama saying this ... it's someone else. This is waaaaay overblown.


by Oregonian on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:05:18 PM EST
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I'm speechless (2.00 / 2)

Some of the commenting here goes beyond naive to utterly deluded.

Here is reality:

Obama may be the likely nominee but this Wright stuff is radioactive. Combine that with the "inexperience" factor and McCain will win in the fall. And win big.

I don't like the idea of a President McCain at all. But that is the most likely outcome at this point.

And please, stop blaming those of us who have the "audacity" to point this out.


by OtherLisa on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:58:44 PM EST
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as a New Yorker (none / 0)

no one (sane) ever said Hillary wouldnt win New York.  that is, unless you are referring to McBush's people, who appear to be Hillary's only chance at challenging Barack at this point.


by Ajax the Greater on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:03:44 PM EST
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Re: Did Clinton's Spiritual Mentor - (2.00 / 2)

Supposedly the most important influence in his life -
Say, "God damn America!"?

Now, it's one thing to say "I am not a crook."
And another to say, "I did not sexual relations with that woman."
Or that someone has all the advantages because he is a black man.
Or that some candidate is a monster.

But to be intimately connected for most of his life with someone who says, "God damn America!"
is simply not going to go away.

It is here to stay.


by johnnygunn on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:05:49 PM EST
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It truly is incredible that they still pretend .. (2.00 / 1)

not to "get" the fact that this stuff is TOXIC in American politics, that "God Damn America" is going to play really poorly juxtasuposed with war hero/POW McCain. Have they completely lost their minds and forgotten what elections in this country are like? If Repugs could make John Karry a traitor just imagine what the average voter will think of Obama by the time the Repugs are done.

Apparently, they don't care about winning the GE-they just want to stick it to Clinton supporters and prove they were "right" and the promptly lose the election for dems. All I want is to pick a candidate that actually knows how to win and the one who has been sittin with Rev God Damn America for 20 years ain't the ticket.


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by berkshiretrueblue on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:35:59 PM EST
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Re: The racial graph (none / 0)

Obama is a muslim manchurian candidate.

Obama is an angry black racist christian.

Which is it? These two sentiments are diametrically opposed and would make any sane person's head spin.


I love all people ... even fundamentally flawed ones -- me.
by pitahole on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:15:02 PM EST
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Re: The racial graph (none / 0)

It's neither.  Obama is running a campaign based on his sound judgement and his ability to "get it right the first time". He has said a thousand times that his judgement is better than Hillary's.  His two decades long friendship with a man of Wright's character and bizarre beliefs speaks volumes about that judgement.


Yes, I am a Clintonista for Obama.
by Denny Crane on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:46:50 PM EST
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Re: The racial graph (none / 0)

  I just don't get it.  Hillary gets more sludge thrown at her by the right-wing then anyone, but you go on supporting her anyway.  Now that the right-wing is going after Obama, not only do you think this somehow weakens him, you join the attacks.  


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:00:46 PM EST
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Re: The racial graph (none / 0)

This is Obama's own creation unlike Hillary's.


by Sandeep on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:55:59 AM EST
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