Maybe I am nuts, but here is my thinking when the President says it is a lie that people are concerned that bureaucrats will be making end of life health care decisions.

When the President says he will provide healthcare for all, with no rationing, and healthcare will not be more expensive, it does not seem logical. Can both parts of the statement actually be true?

Private Insureres have to ration care or they will go bankrupt. Countries with public healtchare like Canada and Great Britain must ration care as well. How can President Obama's plan get around this problem? It can't, unless we vastly increase the resources we put into healtcare, which he claims he will not do.

If he won't raise taxes to pay for "anything you want" healthcare, then someone (medical professionals, bean counters, bureaucrats, etc) will need to determine what care is available for people using government provided healthcare.

I don't know how the rest of you stay civil around here.

That's easy.  We largely don't.  Unfortunate but true.

Draco has a point. Even I, who values style almost as much as substance, almost never post the first thing I type. Step one in political writing is to throw down some Jack Daniels, curse at the top of one's lungs, and punch the wall a few times. It's going to come out of my system one way or another, and I'd rather that way not be the published form. ;)

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Here is where the President called his opponents liars:

Some of people's concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie plain and simple

It is absurd the way he said it, but this issue has struck a chord with people across the country because there is an element of truth to it.

I'll copy from my previous post since I'm making the same point here.

When the President says he will provide healthcare for all, with no rationing, and healthcare will not be more expensive, it does not seem logical. Can both parts of the statement actually be true?

Private Insureres have to ration care or they will go bankrupt. Countries with public healtchare like Canada and Great Britain must ration care as well. How can President Obama's plan get around this problem? It can't, unless we vastly increase the resources we put into healtcare, which he claims he will not do.

If he won't raise taxes to pay for "anything you want" healthcare, then someone (medical professionals, bean counters, bureaucrats, etc) will need to determine what care is available for people using government provided healthcare.

Lie or truth?