Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

Per Mike Allen:

President Barack Obama will address a joint session of Congress on health care reform in prime time on Wednesday, Sept. 9, a senior official tells POLITICO.

Obama plans to give lawmakers a more specific prescription for health care legislation than he has in the past, aides said.

I would say it's about time that Barack Obama stood up and gave a speech like this (or why didn't he give this speech earlier?), but realistically the 9th is about the earliest point at which such a speech could be effective. The August recess was bound to be difficult for the President, as recesses past have been for many a previous President, as the megaphone and attention move away from him. But with attention returning to Washington, both from the viewing public and the member of Congress, President Obama has the opportunity to renew and refocus his efforts, rally the troops, and get the ball rolling towards meaningful healthcare reform. The stakes are high, yes, but I have a feeling he has the strength and fortitude to rise to the occasion.

Tags: 111th Congress, Barack Obama, Healthcare (all tags)

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36 Comments

members of the HOuse
should leave "spirits" in their seats...
cause apparently spirit is all that matters
by TarHeel 2009-09-02 12:09PM | 0 recs
Theoretically it wasn't needed before now

Before the recess, he didn't have people's attention... further, if Congress had gotten it done like he'd asked, it wouldn't have been necessary at all.

But no, the Blue Dogs figured they'd try to make their corporate masters happy and made a stink.  I wonder how interested the progressive base is going to be in helping the handfull of Blue Dogs with their agenda after this...

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 12:10PM | 0 recs
is he going to shill

Kent Conrads abortion of a co-op or the magical powers of exchanges?

by TarHeel 2009-09-02 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

Obama and his Corporate Dems in the Senate are punking us. They stall and dither (and seek non-existent bi-partisanship) just long enough to force a bad health care bill through both houses of Congress (take it or leave it House Dems). It'll be a big give away to the private health care and insurance industry and the progressive and liberal Dems in the House will get it in the neck in 2010

This is how they manipulate the system and keep real reform from happening. It only takes a handful of Senators in the pocket of these industries and one weak President and we're screwed.

Really, at what point are you going to stop believing Obama is going to magically turn into FDR? He's the anti-FDR.

by Stoic 2009-09-02 12:11PM | 0 recs
Welcome to MyDD

Congratulations on successfully making your second post.  

While we appreciate your enthusiasm for involvement with Democratic politics, we must warn you that we don't appreciate misinformation, fallacies, or trolls.  Obama doesn't own the "corporate dems in the Senate;" in fact, the Blue Dogs who are obstructing the process are largely corporate Democrats.

Obama hasn't been stalling on the issue, and in fact wanted this to have been taken care of already.

Obama has no wish to make progressive Democrats "take it in the neck in 2010."  That would be extremely counterproductive to his ambitious agenda.  

In short, don't be ridiculous.  Contribute like an adult or leave.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 12:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome to MyDD

Excuse me but I've been a life long Democrat for 35 years. I've voted a straight ticket each and every time. I completely supported Obama in the election and would only be too happy to change my mind if he ever gets off his "bi-partisan" kick and start fighting for the things we put him in office to do.

Don't whine at me about trolling. Since the day he put Rahm Emanuel in his administration he's announced to the world he's going to be a safe, compliant rock-no-boats Washington insider.

This is honest criticism, sir. And I'm not the only one making it.

by Stoic 2009-09-02 12:40PM | 0 recs
I TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU

Your completely unsubstantiated claims of being a longtime Democrat are equally as convincing as all the people who claimed to supported Obama in the primary but then decided that they had to follow their conscience and vote for McCain because Obama was an unproven celebrity candidate.

Rahm Emmanuel, not rocking boats?  First of all, the guy is just a chief of staff and has no influence on policy.  Secondly, he's known as a firebrand who will knock over your fruit cart if he doesn't get what he wants.  Finally, would you rather Obama name a chief of staff that is a complete unknown in Washington and doesn't have a rollodex full of lawmakers and how to influence them?

Your "honest criticism" makes no sense.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU

You have got to be kidding me.

by Stoic 2009-09-02 04:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome to MyDD
Contribute as an adult? On the Web?
It would be nice.
by spirowasright 2009-09-02 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome to MyDD

Yeah, I know.  Pipe dream, I guess.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

Stoic....dont be put off. Unfortunately, anyone who disagrees with certain elements here are called trolls and frauds....in their opinion dissent is not allow.

by BuckeyeBlogger 2009-09-02 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

lol cute

by KLRinLA 2009-09-02 01:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

Yeah, what's the point. I was a Dean Meet-up coordinator, ran for my county Democratic Central Committee, on the last ballot as a John Edwards delegate. I can prove all that but criticize Obama and I'm a hidden Repuke troll and should STFU.

Pathetic.

by Stoic 2009-09-02 04:21PM | 0 recs
Buckeye is a conservative btw.

by DTOzone 2009-09-02 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Buckeye is a conservative btw.

Thats right I am a conservative Blue Dog.....so in your eyes that makes me not a democrat.....of course the left wing of the party has done what for the party?

by BuckeyeBlogger 2009-09-04 04:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

You see the only response from someone like DTO is that I am a conservative, so I am to be disregarded.....another sure sign of his high level of intelligence and open mindedness....

by BuckeyeBlogger 2009-09-04 04:15PM | 0 recs
Best line of the story

Aides said Obama does not plan to make a public option, or government plan, a make-or-break issue when he spells out his specifics.

by tarheel74 2009-09-02 12:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Best line of the story

Obama has said repeatedly that he wants to "bend the cost curve" (slight whistle on the "s").  He has to know that the only real way to do this is with a public option.  So he can legitimately say that a public option in and of itself is not a necessity, but bending the cost curve is.

by the mollusk 2009-09-02 12:42PM | 0 recs
seriously?

The eyes of the country will be on him next Wednesday. Do you think it's good enough if he says he wants to control costs but doesn't insist on a public health insurance option? That's a signal to all the wavering Dems to jump ship.

by desmoinesdem 2009-09-02 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

Well here's another adult comment. So far, from the openness of his administration, to DOMA, to DADT, to resolution of the legal and constitutional issues surrounding torture and abuse of prisoners in general, to global warming, to reform of a disfunctional and even harmful health care system, Obama has shown a dedicated unwillingness to take even sensible political risks to fulfill the promises he made during the campaign. He has allowed the GOP and the Blue Dogs to run roughshod over him. Cowardice is a word I seldom use, but it is a fitting term for how our Democratic president has conducted himself thus far. He has shown that he will speak softly and carry a foam rubber aggression bat.

As much as I disliked him, I have to say that
if LBJ were in the White House today, we'd already have a much more functional and less expensive health care system. I wonder how effectively the "spirit" of the public option will bring health insurance companies and big pharma into line and how effectively that "spirit" will energize the new cooperatives he wants to offer in place of a real public option.

by Retired Catholic 2009-09-02 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

uh, it's been eight months since he's taken office and about two of those months have been taken up by talking about health care reform.  another two were taken up by the stimulus bill and its various satellites.  give the guy some time.  it takes time to undo twenty-eight years of Reagan.

by the mollusk 2009-09-02 01:37PM | 0 recs
Don't bother, mollusk

Check his history.  It's a sock puppet.  Probably belonging to the same person as Stoic.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 01:43PM | 0 recs
I welcome you to MyDD as well

It's your first comment, congrats!

While we're on the subject, "cowardice" is a word that I use for hiding behind sock puppets when posting on internet blogs in an attempt to make your completely fabricated position seem stronger.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

if LBJ were in the White House today, we'd already have a much more functional and less expensive health care system.

This is interesting considering in five years, LBJ couldn't pass a much more functional and less expensive health care system outside of Medicare and Medicaid.

by DTOzone 2009-09-02 07:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama

is like a super-hero. He's about to kick some serious ass. Unfortunately that includes some of our own, whose 'serious' asses are about to get kicked. What is it about Obama that causes otherwise intelligent people to bet against him? Hmmm, could it be.....

by QTG 2009-09-02 01:31PM | 0 recs
It could be, indeed

I think it's also because he's so mild mannered and Clark Kent-ish most of the time.  Nobody expects him to bust out with the cape and heat vision.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-02 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm going to go way out on a limb here

and (just short of) predict that Obama's Health Care speech to the joint session will make the Reverend Wright speech look like a Miss America finalist's answer by comparison....

They're gonna have to tamp down the earth over Teddy's grave when he's all done.

by QTG 2009-09-02 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm going to go way out on a limb here

QTG, you've got the MOJO on this thread, but I gotta ask what it is you think Obama will bring in a nationally televised speech that will suddenly be a game changer behind closed Senate doors as this thing moves forward?

I heard Bob Dole on NPR today and the ONLY thing I agreed with him on was that Obama needs to prepare his own Health Care Reform bill, totally own it and give it to Reid/Pelosi to push through. The public already perceives it as his plan anyway so why the pussyfootin' around?

It would seem this is an opportunity for Obama to reset the agenda, come out strong with a bold vision of Reform which would knock opponents back on their heels and would give us a better negotiating position. It may be too late, but we were left at such a weak point when Congress broke that I can't see any harm in trying to broaden the discussion.

There goes that wishful thinking kicking in....

by JerryColorado23 2009-09-02 03:12PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm going to go way out on a limb here

Well, I was a little nervous when Obama was taking heat for some considerable amount of time over the Reverend Wright non-stop sermon-clip-o-mania outrage shit-stormapalooza fandango and wienie roast. I had no idea what to expect when he came out and gave his response speech.

Well. I think you will be safe if you divide my nervousness by 27 and multiply his awesomeness by 5 or 10.

by QTG 2009-09-02 04:05PM | 0 recs
if he stands up next Wednesday

and makes clear that no bill without a robust public option will get his signature, I'll happily praise him.

And if he goes the other way, what will you say?

Conversations with a number of White House officials make it clear that, at this point, even they don't know. The argument was raging as recently as last night, and appears to have hardened into two main camps. Both camps agree that the cost of the bill has to come down. The question is how much, and what can be sacrificed.

The first camp could be called "universal-lite." They're focused on preserving the basic shape of the bill. They think a universal plan is necessary for a number of reasons: For one thing, the insurance market regulations don't work without universality, as you can't really ask insurers to offer standard prices if the healthy and the young don't have to enter the system. For another, it will be easier to change subsidies or improve the benefit package down the road if the initial offerings prove inadequate. New numbers are easier than new features. Creating a robust structure is the most important thing. This camp seems to be largely headed by the policy people.

The second camp is not universal at all. This camp believes the bill needs to be scaled back sharply in order to ensure passage. Covering 20 million people isn't as good as covering 40 million people, but it's a whole lot better than letting the bill fall apart and covering no one at all. It's also a success of some sort, and it gives you something to build on. What that sacrifices in terms of structure it gains in terms of political appeal. This camp is largely headed by members of the political team.

Both camps accept that the administration's proposal will be less generous than what has emerged from either the HELP or House Committees. The question, it seems, is how much less generous.

I really hope that Obama's line in the sand isn't for a bill that's less generous than the HELP version, which is already weak compared to HR 3200, which is weak compared to the Ways and Means bill.

by desmoinesdem 2009-09-02 02:27PM | 0 recs
Re: if he stands up next Wednesday

Arguing with them is like banging your head against a wall. the last time I saw such blind faith when all signs were to the contrary was from the Republicans when Bush was in power. We are being reduced to a Bush redux party.

I doubt if any of the above posters have dependents who need regular health care and thus have to buy insurance and watch the premiums rise year after year unabated. Any "reform" without long term cost control measures or way to buy affordable insurance is corporate welfare and a betrayal of the Democratic base.

by tarheel74 2009-09-02 02:45PM | 0 recs
Re: "Arguing with them"

 Look, (tarheel, tarheel74, or tarheel-whatever number you are this week) you are going to have your anti-Obama hat fed to you next Wednesday, so I'll leave you to your ponderous pondering until then. But calling me names because I have more faith in Obama's political savvy and ability to get this done than I have in your lame-ass regurgitation of amateur op-ed concerns is just not fair. But I like that you draw a distinction between us - I want that to be clearly on the record as often as possible.

by QTG 2009-09-02 03:01PM | 0 recs
Re: if he stands up next Wednesday

I think this quote confirms the problem with the "wait and see what he says" faction.

I agree that if all people are going to do is moan and cry about how much Obama sucks, maybe they should just wait and see, as they're not helping anything.

But the fact that the issue is still up in the air (which may not be a fact, but it costs us nothing to assume it is, as if it's wrong then nothing we do will matter anyway) demonstrates that there is a point in continuing to agitate for a strong public option between now and next week.  There is clearly a political calculus involved here.  If the perception of the White House is that there would be a massive progressive revolt in the absence of a public option, of course that's going to impact their thinking to some degree.  Maybe they'll decide to take the chance anyway, but maybe they won't.

And if the White House comes to believe that the activist base, the people who knock on doors and man the phone banks and drive people to the polls on election day, will accept a mediocre bill with no consequences, well then that's going to impact their thinking as well.  All of this should be really really obvious.

by Steve M 2009-09-02 03:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

Way too little....WAY WAY WAY TOO FUCKIN' LATE.

by TxDem08 2009-09-02 05:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

He wasted all summer and his popular support shouting into the megaphone when he had nothing meaningful to say. Look at the polls. Find me an independent voter that will even give his healthcare plan the time of day now.

The days of getting by on goodwill, charisma, and vague speeches or over. There's a lot more to healthcare reform than another presidential sermon from the mount. The WH better have a damn well-written bill with some clear specifics and believable numbers, or they can forget it.

by fultron 2009-09-02 11:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama to Address Joint Session of Congress

BTW: Maybe you're getting "first time" troll comments because this blog is featured on RCP. Also, plenty of us trolls were really energized back in the primaries/campaign but have been holding our peace since then.

by fultron 2009-09-02 11:32PM | 0 recs

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