Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

Over the weekend, conservative jurist Richard Posner, one of Ronald Reagan's first appointees to an appellate court position, blogged on the decline of conservatism. The post is well worth reading in full, but here are a few choice grafs:

By the end of the Clinton administration, I was content to celebrate the triumph of conservatism as I understood it, and had no desire for other than incremental changes in the economic and social structure of the United States. I saw no need for the estate tax to be abolished, marginal personal-income tax rates further reduced, the government shrunk, pragmatism in constitutional law jettisoned in favor of "originalism," the rights of gun owners enlarged, our military posture strengthened, the rise of homosexual rights resisted, or the role of religion in the public sphere expanded. All these became causes embraced by the new conservatism that crested with the reelection of Bush in 2004.

My theme is the intellectual decline of conservatism, and it is notable that the policies of the new conservatism are powered largely by emotion and religion and have for the most part weak intellectual groundings. That the policies are weak in conception, have largely failed in execution, and are political flops is therefore unsurprising. [...]

By the fall of 2008, the face of the Republican Party had become Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Conservative intellectuals had no party.

And then came the financial crash last September and the ensuing depression. These unanticipated and shocking events have exposed significant analytical weaknesses in core beliefs of conservative economists concerning the business cycle and the macroeconomy generally.

What's interesting about this isn't that it's an example of a conservative chiding the Republican Party for abandoning its conservative roots, because we have seen quite a bit of that in recent weeks and months (indeed, that seems to be the common wisdom among many in the upper echelons of the party). No, what makes this stand out is that one of the leading progenitors of modern conservatism is in effect saying that the ideology itself has gone haywire, that its failings are a direct result of misdirected focus. Some conservatives might think that George W. Bush led the GOP astray by not devoting enough attention to repealing the estate tax (and it's worth noting that Posner stays away from demagoguing on the issue by calling it by another poll-tested name) or by resisting the rights of homosexuals -- but Posner clearly isn't one of them.

Where the movement goes from here is unclear, though Posner sees hopes in "portents of liberal excess in the policies and plans of the new administration." Maybe, maybe not. The "liberal excess[es]" of the 1960s certainly led to a backlash -- but what some might have considered the liberal excesses of the Roosevelt administration in the 1930s led to a further embrace of liberalism, not a retrenchment towards conservatism. So it just might be that conservatism will need some ideas outside of unending growth in the U.S. military and unending cuts to the marginal income tax rate for the wealthy to come back into the fore, rather than just waiting for the current administration to fail.

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Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

Do you know how much of the way law is practice in this country is consumed by the thinks of this one man?

by bruh3 2009-05-12 03:27PM | 0 recs
Dick Posner was always a bit of a gadfly

Not really a doctrinaire to some conservative mantra, still he is probably THE most quoted jurist of the last 3 decades.

Funny, the liberals never wanted him on the SCOTUS but he was for the legalization of pot AND LSD, not strictly pro-life...

Kind of libertarian.

He had some totally wacked out ideas, like selling babies to the highest bidder was superior to a government run adoption scheme.

My take is, I would rather have Posner on SCOTUS then Scalia or Thomas..

But, love the fact he basically calls the Death Tax by it's real name, and says marginal rates are just fine...

Still, the new Conservative leaders are such Chowderhead dummies, they probably don't even know who Richard Posner is...

by WashStateBlue 2009-05-12 04:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism
Liberal excesses of the 1960s led to a conservative backlash, while the "liberal excesses" of the 1930s led to a further embrqce of liberalism?
You don't think timing may have something to do with it, do you?
by spirowasright 2009-05-12 06:05PM | 0 recs
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     Let's just be clear that "the liberal excesses of the 60s" that led to the conservative backlash were the efforts to gain equal rights for Blacks and women. These were the "liberal excesses" conservatives cared most about in the 60s, and they're the "liberal excesses" they still care most about today. It wasn't opposition to federal aid to education or Medicare or the space program that the right used to gain power.

by Ron Thompson 2009-05-13 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

the current degenerative morass and decent of the republican/conservative mind and frame of reference was all perfectly predictable and was expected by anyone that understood the moral and intellectual depravity, the outrageous greed and violence against their fellow human beings, the poverty of empathy that are the core and epicenter of the reagan republican/conservative so-called revolution. As the deception layers hiding the republican personality under various guises and gimmicks have been pealed away over the years, ultimately revealing the craven soulless anti-intellectual vermin that is in full regalia as today's republican/conservative, average Joe, and even the many smarmy hipster modern bourgeois that are the heirs to traditional plutocratic republicanism have seen the vision of what it means to be republican/conservative today and understand that they want no part of such personal poverty and gratuitous violence. They may not know for sure who or what they are/want to be, but they know it is not today's vile republican/conservative.  

by gak 2009-05-12 08:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

decent = descent

by gak 2009-05-12 08:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

Posner is a fool if he ever thought/thinks that there was a way to brake the craven decent of republican/conservatism that reagan unleashed, settling on some enough-now regime to his liking. The degenerative human personality traits that are the engine of republican/conservatism can only continue to hurdle into the abyss of selfish waste and destruction. There is no other path for republican/conservatives, there are no beneficial human personality traits that would/could lead them away from destructiveness.  

by gak 2009-05-12 08:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

How does the Vietnam War rate on backlash against the Democrats/liberals? I would venture to guess it was at a minimum catalytic for the shift against the Dems post-60s.

by McGahee220 2009-05-12 08:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

What he is really lamenting is that the American people are not buying the conservative con anymore.  When they had power, all was well with him.

by Bob H 2009-05-13 02:06AM | 0 recs
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Yes but have people read this piece?  He says that he was quite satisfied by the way things were going at the end of the 90's.  What does that say about "liberalism" then?  Maybe the problem is that too much of the conservatism was accepted, and even strengthened, by the "liberals" then.  Maybe we should repeal Ronald Reagan, and not just George W. Bush.

As for the 60's vs. the 30's:  the reasons why a backlash happened after the 60's and not the 30's was (1) things were terrible at the end of the 60's, and not at the end of Roosevelt's administration, due to the fact that FDR was more radical than LBJ, who failed to spend enough money and to intervene in the economy more, and so allowed urban and socioeconomic problems to get away from him; and (2) everybody got help from FDR, but only a few groups-the very poor, the minorities-got help from LBJ.  The working class in particular was ignored.  So, there was less public support, and more public apathy, towards the Great Society than towards the New Deal.

by demjim 2009-05-13 06:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism
     Really? Federal aid to education, Medicare, the passage of the Highway Safety Act, the creation of National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting Service, and the requirement that the Surgeon General's warning be printed on all packs of cigarettes helped "only a few groups--the very poor, the minorities"?
     It's no secret what brought The Great Society Down. It was Civil Rights, and the War. Anybody who was alive in 1968, as I was, knows that. Civil rights destroyed the Democrtatic party in the South, and the War combined with white ethnic backlash against civil rights enabled Nixon to carry Illinois and New Jersey, which had gone for Kennedy in 1960, and without which Nixon would not have had a majority in the electoral college.
by Ron Thompson 2009-05-13 08:42AM | 0 recs
Great post

Posner also noted that virtually all economists have become Keynsians overnight as a result of the financial crisis.

by fladem 2009-05-13 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Richard Posner on the Decline of Conservatism

Sorry but that is nothing compared to the welfare states of the entire rest of the First World nations.  As for helping everybody, what about universal social services, like Social Security?  What about national health insurance, instead of just Medicare and Medicaid?

by demjim 2009-05-14 08:01AM | 0 recs

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