PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

Today on Hardball, Joe Sestak sure made it sound like he's still seriously considering a run in the Democratic Senate primary against Arlen Specter.

Note Chris's outrage at the idea that the field would be cleared by anyone other than the voters. I've gone on record in support of a strong Democratic challenger to Specter for just that reason among others. What do you all think? Take the poll over the jump.

Update [2009-5-1 21:18:33 by Todd Beeton]:Also, Senate Guru has a good update on the state of the race:

Pennsylvania: Senator Bob Casey Jr. has gotten in line behind the Democratic establishment's orders and endorsed Arlen Specter for re-election. State Representative Bill Kortz has joined Joe Torsella in saying that he is continuing his pursuit of the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate in 2010 regardless of Specter's status. Meanwhile, the NRSC reveals their fear of a Senate candidacy by Congressman Joe Sestak as they follow up their anti-Specter robocall with an anti-Sestak & vaguely pro-Specter robocall. This stunt may only prove to water down any coherent Republican message (and may further encourage a Sestak candidacy). Elsewhere, the labor community continues to put pressure on Specter. Also, a new blog, Specter Watch, has popped up to apparently focus on Democratic alternatives to Specter.

Head on over to his place for links.

Tags: Joe Sestak, PA-Sen (all tags)

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Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

Sestak is pissed off in a bad way.  He was planning on an announcement in the next couple months once it became clear that Specter would not win the Republican primary.

I think the Admiral is just fuming right now and in the end won't run against Specter.  Maybe a run for Governor or an appointment to the Senate if Specter dies in the next few years is in Sestak's future.

by Vox Populi 2009-05-01 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

I do hope a more progressive candidate succeeds in mounting a successful challenge against Specter, but it's gonna be tough.

Specter is going to have the entire establishment on his side, including our extremely popular president.

It's gonna be Obama, Biden, Rendell, Casey, and Reid versus the Netroots.

And if they manage to get Specter to swing over to a pro-EFCA vote in exchange for an AFL-CIO endorsement, we're gonna be facing a near impossible battle.

Strange to see our interests being pitted against those of Barack Obama, the very president who we helped put into office.

by Obamaphile 2009-05-01 07:52PM | 0 recs
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If Specter doesn't provide key votes for Obama I don't think Obama will be working too hard for Specter, especially in the primary.

by Lolis 2009-05-01 08:54PM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

I agree with this.

by lojasmo 2009-05-02 03:50AM | 0 recs
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Healthcare, I think the deal is for his vote on healthcare.

by thenurse 2009-05-02 09:01AM | 0 recs
Yes, Healthcare...

And, he better vote for the SCOTUS Pick, cause if he plays the "we need a center right pick" BS, THEN I am sending money to Sestak in a hurry...

by WashStateBlue 2009-05-02 03:13PM | 0 recs
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I agree, but there are two caveats I woulddd...

If Specter does support him on healthcare and his SCOTUS pick, Obama ostensibly WILL formally get behind Specter in the primary, and even if Specter doesn't give Obama precisely what he wants, I don't think there's a snowball's shot in hell of Obama endorsing anybody other than Specter in the primary.

Our best hope is that Obama stays out of it altogether.  He's either gonna be neutral or on Specter's side in the primary, based on his own comments thus far (he's already said that he would campaign for Specter in a primary if necessary).

In either case, nobody but Specter is gonna be getting an endorsement from our top Democratic elected officials.

by Obamaphile 2009-05-02 06:37PM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

I think Sestak would still have a chance of bumping Specter despite the Dem establishment aligned against him. Arlen Specter is just Joe Lieberman all over again. They're more alike than not, thinking they have a right to the Senate seats they hold. When their rightful place as senators is threatened, their party loyalty fizzes and their principles get malleable. I predict Specter will be defeated in the Dem primary and runs as an independent, just like Joe. But this time the real Dem will win.

by HP Stevens 2009-05-02 04:24AM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

I'm pretty sure he can't run as an independent under PA law.  This is WHY he flipped to the Dems instead of run after losing to Toomey.  So defeat Specter in the Primary and he is done.

by 30000Fine 2009-05-02 06:56AM | 0 recs
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Didn't know that, 3000, thanks for the info. I wish there was some way to combat the moderate Smug Club. They're not Dems or Repubs, their only loyalty is to money, big business, themselves, and to a lesser extent one another.

by HP Stevens 2009-05-02 08:05AM | 0 recs
Specter & Running as an Independent

Specter is legally allowed to run as an independent - but he has to decide that before the Party primaries.  In other words, he can't lose the Dem or GOP primary and THEN decide to run as an independent (as Lieberman did in Connecticut).

So why go to the Dems instead of run as an independent?  The reason is probably demographics.  In a lot of states, independent voters are one-third or more of the electorate.  But, in Pennsylvania, independent voters are only about one-eighth of the electorate - not a big enough pool of voters for Snarlin' Arlen.  (The PA electorate roughly breaks down 1/8 independent, 3/8 GOP, 4/8 Dem.)

by Senate Guru 2009-05-02 08:41AM | 0 recs
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So far I feel we're missing THE key point; the netroots advocate for a progressive America.  That is NOT Specter.  Would Sestak back the 'public good versus private greed', the prevailing progressive frame?  Are we even in agreeement that is what we advocate?  

We ought to approach Rep Sestak with a VISION (frame) in mind, and discuss how we can go forward.  But, I doubt our movement is this mature (developed) in its vision.  If not, then we are still in the Dems vs. Repugs quagmire, and acting reactionary (reacting, rather than advocating).

by dogenman 2009-05-02 04:27AM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?
I'm not certain that a moderate isn't welcome in this Democratic Party. A Democratic Party full of liberals and progressives is a Democratic Party that won't be around long. The reason why we kicked ass in the last two elections and will probably run the tables in 2010 is because Americans across the country feel FINALLY safe in voting for the Democrat. Not because she/he is voting for the national Democratic platform hook and line, but because this 'new' Democratic Party is very diverse and people know that their local Dem is more in line with thier local values.
Which in a lot of places means this:
The local/state Repub is running hard to the right still trying to appeal to that narrow, shrinking conservative base. The local/sate Dem is running slightly right of center.
Guess who wins?
So fine, we get a slightly right leaning moderate Dem in Congress. Are we going to embrace them, or turn our nose up at them for not being a progresive?
Arlen Specter wants to get on board, cool. Obviously, one or two voters in PA like him. snark
But he is going to have to go through a primary like everybody else. A real primary, not a coronation`.
by xodus1914 2009-05-02 05:07PM | 0 recs
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Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but there is absolutely no way the Governor Rendell's gonna allow Specter to be primaried. And in PA, usually what the Governor says goes. I love Sestak, and he has a bright future in the party, but he knows this too. Doesn't mean he won't stop complaining, but he's not going to run

by DieHardBlue 2009-05-02 05:29AM | 0 recs
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He's 58.  When Specter's seat comes up next he'll be 64.  That's a little old to start a Senate career.  Where is his future?

by Vox Populi 2009-05-02 05:54AM | 0 recs
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For one, there is no guarantee that Specter lasts for a full term, in fact, I'd say odds would probably be better than even that he does retire within 8 years. And there have been plenty of instances of people starting careers in the Senate or Governor's office while well into their late-50s/early 60s, Governor Rendell being just one of them

by DieHardBlue 2009-05-02 09:03AM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

He's about tit for tat the same as Tom Ridge and it looks like Tom Ridge is ready to join the Senate race against Pat Toomey. If all we are doing is getting the Liberal version of Tom Ridge in Arlen Spector, I would gladly take Sesik over Spector. Anyway he turned his back on progressives by spearheading Sam Alito in, and we shouldn't allow Reid to dictate to us who our nominee is, he turned his back on progressives by keeping Joe Lieberman. So, I support Seseik over Spector and he should beat Tom Ridge or Pat Toomey.

by olawakandi 2009-05-02 06:55AM | 0 recs
Sestak's not a liberal Dem, Specter's not one...

Can't Pennsylvania do better than EITHER of these men in 2010?  Progressive Punch rates Sestak as "Leaning Democratic."  As Nate Silver points out, it's quite conceivable that the New Specter will lean more Democratic than Sestak!

by tdub 2009-05-02 06:57AM | 0 recs
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Alen Spector is the Liberal version of Tom Ridge and they will vote the same way. But it is all about party unity and we should endorse our candidates whether they are left or center just like the republicans are going to endorse Tom Ridge soon. If Tom Ridge runs and challenges Toomey then I will support Sestak, but if Ridge doesn't then I will support Spector. Spector, Ridge, Rendell, and Sestak vote centrist postions anyways.

by olawakandi 2009-05-02 07:06AM | 0 recs
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There is a possibility that Specter has pissed off Republicans enough for them to start running against him.  I know that it isn't money from inside the Dem party, but it would help nonetheless.  As more information comes out about this and becomes more widespread, more people are getting pissed.  I don't think that an uprising from the netroots is out of reach.  I think a lot of people are just waiting on someone to come forward and say they are definitely running.  Its funny how fast it was forgotten how hard people worked to get Obama elected.

by selfevident 2009-05-02 01:18PM | 0 recs
Re: PA-Sen: Joe Sestak For Senate?

PA did elect Santorum, is there a chance here that we end up with Toomey after a democratic primary battle that gets ugly?

are there any polls on a sestak-specter race?

by liberalj 2009-05-03 02:21AM | 0 recs

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