I really am getting worried about these nut jobs, the language is obviously selected for someone with a mind like that. It's like when that one guy shot up some church that accepted gay people and they found his house filled with all these right wing republican books and etc.

The sad part is these hosts can't be THAT blind to see what they're doing and continue to do it anyway.

This isn't new really. Beck and Chuck Norris had a conversation over a month ago about Texas regaining independence. I read about it over on Free Republic. I'm paraphrasing now but Norris said Texas was independent before once and could be again. Beck said well I could a one star man instead of a fifty star one if it came to that.

Paul Saffo, a former professor of mine and a noted futurist, has stated in the past that US stands a less than 50% chance of remaining intact as 2050. His prediction is based on the economic dislocation brought on by the collapse of globalization within a peak oil framework that will break up continental empires into regional entities. Basically he envisions a city state with a hinterland. But Beck's views are really a throwback to notions of states right. The Tenth Amendment and all that.

I don't know about you but I know very few people who think of themselves first as Californian then an American. That there are some, I don't deny. But not many. And if I had to guess Texas and other Southerners would lead this group.

I am glad you're highlighting his latest case of moonbattery. They discredit themselves every time they open their mouths.

there are activist secessionist movements in Vermont, Hawaii, South Carolina and Texas. Vermont's might be the largest and from what I hear there is also a Greater Acadia movement that aims to create a country out of New England and Atlantic Canada.

I say let them secede!

Here's the deal: You can have the south break off, maybe throw in a few of the fly over states in the midwest. We'll check back in 10...hell, make it 5 years and see who's doing better.

Ah....an America without Texas and its electoral votes....Dems win every election!

It seems Rick Perry decided to declare the "sovereignty" of the state of Texas. So here's the thing is it secession? Can we now stop sending federal money to Texas even in emergency? Or is it some token school-yard posturing.

What I fear is violence. There are enough stupid and rabid conservatives out there who are willing to do stupid things. It has happened in Pittsburgh and it can happen in other places as well. Ridiculing the right wingers, while good, is not enough. We as citizens have to be vigilant as well. Organize, hit these idiots where it hurts. Hurt their sponsors, stop the cash flow and their stupidity will stop as well. What these right-winger are now promulgating is treason because last I checked secession is treason.

Didn't Davet Crockett tell the Mexican government to go to Hell, not the US government?

IIRC Texas was part of Mexico at the time. It was later when they told Washington to go to Hell.

Let's just let them re-form the Republic of Texas and build a big wall around it to keep moonbats on their side of the border.

Seriously, i am so tempted to do this when my brain gets overloaded by the hypocrisy on patriotism we have had to endure over the years.

I think this guy would disagree.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presiden ts/AbrahamLincoln/

I've just published a book that outlines the many ways that state officials have to "check and balance" the federal government at each stage of the national policymaking process.  It's a long way of demonstrating that states aren't as downtrodden as many think. "Big government" stomping all over the states is a great scare tactic, but the evidence just doesn't bear it out. States don't do much to publicize this, of course, since they get political mileage out of playing the victim card (see Perry, Rick).

If you're interested, see:
http://tinyurl.com/dg5ju2