ABC News: Reid Believes A Public Option Has The Votes

Good news from ABC News' Jonathan Karl. It boils down to this: Harry Reid will include the public option in the Senate health care bill, and then allow moderate Democrats to vote for cloture on amendment aimed at stripping the option from the bill. That amendment won't get sixty votes, and those moderates, having expressed their opposition on the record through their amendment vote, will then vote for cloture on the final bill, getting it to sixty. Karl says Democratic sources have told him that,

Reid needs 60 votes to pass a health care bill and there are simply not 60 Senators who support a public option.  But Reid is now convinced that Democratic critics of the public option will support him when it counts - on the procedural motion, which requires 60 votes, to defeat a certain GOP-led filibuster of the bill.  Once the filibuster is beaten, it only takes 51 votes to pass the bill.

And Democratic critics of the public option would get a chance to go on-the-record with their opposition by voting for an amendment to strip it from the health care bill.  Under Senate rules, such an amendment would need 60 votes to pass.  And while there may not be 60 votes in favor of a public option, there are also not 60 votes against it.  So, it would remain in the bill.

The downside:  The move would almost certainly cost Democrats the support of Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME), the sole Republican who now supports Democratic health care reform efforts.  Asked today if she would vote to block a bill with public option, Snowe told reporters, "On the public option? I'd say I'm against a public option, so yes."

Another important point: Reid's version of the public option is different from the more liberal version advocated by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi in two key ways:  1) Reid's version would allow individual states to opt-out of the program, giving public option critics the chance to say that their states retain the right to scrap the idea; and, 2) Under Reid's plan, the new government insurance program would have to negotiate payment rates with health care providers.

Having spent the morning dealing with obscene headaches related to my own COBRA insurance, I am relieved to get a dose of good news, even if it does unnecessarily legitimize the tenthers.

Tags: Harry Reid, Health care, Public Option (all tags)

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more good news

Supposedly there are at least 218 votes in the House for the "robust" public option, based on Medicare plus 5 percent rates.

Also, the House bill will strip the insurance industry of its anti-trust exemption.

by desmoinesdem 2009-10-22 03:59PM | 0 recs
Even Better! Olympia Snowe Is Going Filibuster!

Good news all around! Harry Reid is going to include a public option in the final bill, and Olympia Snowe's lying imposture is exposed.

She's going to filibuster the bill, making it ZERO Republicans in support. That way there's no reason to water it down.

The only pitfall will be if Obama tries to strong-arm Congress to eliminate the P.O. so as to maintain that false aura of "bi-partisanship."

The only sensible thing Michelle Malkin ever said: "God save us from Bi-partisanship!" I say "Amen!"

If only we could force the Democratic wheez-bags in D.C. to abandon this ridiculous sham of consulting Republicans who only want to sabotage all progress, think how far we could go!

by Cugel 2009-10-22 04:58PM | 0 recs
the three Ls

Lieberman, Lincoln and Landrieu are the main roadblocks right now, along with possibly Bayh.

My gut says cloture will fail 57-43, but I hope I'm wrong.

by esconded 2009-10-22 05:39PM | 0 recs
take away their gavels

There is no reason any D should be allowed to chair a committee if they won't vote for cloture on this bill.

by desmoinesdem 2009-10-22 05:47PM | 0 recs
Re: take away their gavels

One factor to consider is that Bayh and Lieberman
may really want Obama to fail.

Not to sound like Kent, but getting a good health care bill is the key to 2010.

by esconded 2009-10-22 05:52PM | 0 recs
Re: the three Ls

My money says that when the chips are down, no one in the Democratic caucus is willing to go down in history for filibustering healthcare.

They will continue to try and get their way before the bill comes to the floor, of course.

by Steve M 2009-10-22 06:33PM | 0 recs
Re: the three Ls

One hopes this will be the case.  If they do filibuster, they should be run out of the country on a pole.  

by orestes 2009-10-23 01:50PM | 0 recs
They can be told that they better support cloture

If they want to see their children/grandchildren again.  

by Kent 2009-10-22 06:59PM | 0 recs
Cloture looks like it has the votes

I heard a rumor that cloture has the votes. Word behind the beltway is that the GOP's design for Obama's 'Waterloo' just turned into a Rubicon

by Trey Rentz 2009-10-23 03:38AM | 0 recs

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