What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric Interview Sarah Palin?

Katie Couric interviewing Sarah Palin AND John McCain.

Yet somehow, I can't stop watching.

Consider this an open thread.

Update [2008-9-30 2:41:43 by Todd Beeton]:And what's even more painful still? The part of the interview that hasn't yet been released.

Of concern to McCain's campaign, however, is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin's interview with Couric last week that has the political world buzzing.

The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.

After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.

There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.

Tags: John McCain, Sarah Palin (all tags)

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65 Comments

The irony is that Palin

took a subtle swipe at Biden's age today with McCain standing right next to her at the Columbus rally; her comments were pretty funny on the stump but I find it ironic in light of how much his staff has complained about age code-words used against him that his own running mate is being just as explicit with Biden's age.

by Blazers Edge 2008-09-29 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: The irony is that Palin

I'm thinking that PAlins thought process on taking a swipe at Bidens age  might be something like.."if Senator McCain were to be elected and something were to happen to him,you folks would be blessed with a young and vibrant President.If  Senator Obama were to be elected and anything happened to him,you would have a a 65 year old as president who is ...OOPS...7 years younger then Senator McCain..oh my gosh ,I'll rethink that and get back ta ya"

by Lodgemannered 2008-09-30 01:40AM | 0 recs
what a trip

She does that cute look when cornered.

by bakho 2008-09-29 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

Is it just me or does it remind anyone else of a daddy going in to see the teacher after his daughter messed up?

by newms 2008-09-29 07:17PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

Ack!  You beat me by about 15 seconds.  I was going to say the principal.  

It's amazing how they pathologically cannot admit mistakes or flaws.  How much easier would this whole thing have been on Palin if they had just said, "No, she doesn't have a great deal of foreign policy experience, but she's smart and a quick study, and we're confident she'll do well."  Or in this case, "It was a mistake to say what I did, even if we reserve the right to do no matter what we have to do to keep our country safe."

But noooooooo, they can't do wrong.

by Bob Fenster 2008-09-29 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

It seems like Palin's posture keeps getting worse and worse.  Like she's liable to curl up into a fetal position at any moment.

Course, sitting next to Uncle Fester for too long would do that to anyone.

by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow 2008-09-29 07:38PM | 0 recs
Posture

It's an evolved cleavage-display response to threats from higher-ranking members of the tribe.  Or something.  Seriously, I've noticed her hunching over during interviews before, and always found it strange.  Most people would try to sit up straight to convey authority.

by failsafe 2008-09-29 07:55PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric
LOL.You stole my thunder. Those were my very first thoughts when I watched the clip on CNN last night. At first you think that she's sitting there one on one with Couric,then comes the sideways glance.... ( did a cameraman distract her?) , but then the camera pulls back to reveal Daddy sitting next to his daughter who has just been suspended from school.
Until all of the votes are counted ,I 'll never feel  secure enough about  winning to  act cocky ,but I mean really, who could not either bust a gut laughing or cringe when watching that.
Even  Wolf Blitzer looked like he was trying hard to hold back the laughter when he showed the clip at the end of The Situation Room. Too much!
by Lodgemannered 2008-09-30 01:31AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

I described the video clip that I saw on CNN  which was  a little bit different to the above clip that I just watched,inasmuch as  the clip on CNN opened with a tight shot of PAlin and you didn't see McCain at first.Then Palin glances  sideways..and a second later the camera pulls out to reveal McCain sitting there.I didn,t want to be seen as trying to distort.

by Lodgemannered 2008-09-30 01:53AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

I wonder if the video will come out tomorrow where she couldn't name a single SC case besides Roe v Wade?

by neko608 2008-09-29 07:27PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

I am sure she will know about Dred Scott by Thursday, after all, even shrub knew that one.

Golly, while she is discussing the Taney court, I would love to see her get into a discussion of the merits of the Charles River Bridge Case

by gavoter 2008-09-29 07:46PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

"But, you know, regular folks like Clarence Thomas and that Scalia guy, they have a common sense approach to problems not elite, but common sense and regular stuff and.....

Cases?  Well, besides Roe V Wade, there was that case that made Abortion legal, I can't remember the name, but I can get back to ya with it!"

by WashStateBlue 2008-09-29 11:08PM | 0 recs
Gotcha Journalism

I can't believe that voter in Philly asked one of our VP candidates a question about foreign policy.  Total gotcha politics!!!

In all seriousness, I sort of feel bad for Sarah.  How could McCain put someone so unqualified in this position?  Either he's incompetent and made a very poor decision or he's lying and he didn't vet her.  Sound familiar?

by chewie5656 2008-09-29 07:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Gotcha Journalism
Sarah Palin was a stunt,like most everything else he does . All kidding aside,he's a wreckless individual who seems to look at the moment rather then  whats down the road and the bigger picture.
 I don't want anyone who throws caution to the wind,anywhere near the White House.
by Lodgemannered 2008-09-30 01:46AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

I am sorry but no way she can do well in the debate.

if they think 90 minutes of her repeating talking points wont be noticeable as hell!?

how stupid do they think we are!

t

by TruthMatters 2008-09-29 07:30PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

This is America, we elected Bush twice.   Do I really need to tell you how stupid we are?

by gavoter 2008-09-29 07:46PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

damnit

I just wish that this wasn't true.

but we are electing Obama, that helps some to make up for it.

by TruthMatters 2008-09-29 07:49PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

Gonna take about 5 good elections to get over Bush. In many ways his administration was as transformative as Regan's, in an even worse way.

Bush is a direct descendant, evolutionarily speaking, of Regan

by notedgeways 2008-09-29 09:13PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

Only if you mean that Reagan's descendents all came from inbreeding (which would be correct).

by vcalzone 2008-09-30 05:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Elected Bush Twice
Not really.
He was "chosen" by Supreme Court the first time.
Second time, Bush was the legal but illegitimate incumbent.
But, you knew that.
 
by susie 2008-09-29 10:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Elected Bush Twice

He was "chosen" by Supreme Court the first time.

They affected the outcome in Florida, what excuses did the other 29 states that voted for Bush have?

And I'd not mainly blame the SC, I'd mainly blame the butterfly ballots travesty in Florida and whoever designed that particular ballot.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-09-30 02:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Elected Bush Twice

SC effectively settled the butterfly ballots problem and all other problems involved with FL.

Number of states that voted for Bush not important; electoral votes are.

by susie 2008-09-30 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Elected Bush Twice

Yes, my point was that Florida (and the SC) can only be held responsible for 27 of those electors. That's like a mere one tenth of what a candidate requires to be made president. We need to blame the rest of America for the remaining 9/10s.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-10-01 02:31AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

I think she's going to come out gunning....throwing every charge she can.

The charges won't make sense, but that doesn't matter.

If she looks "tough" and uses the typical conservative buzz-phrases, that will be all she needs.

Mark my words.

by Bush Bites 2008-09-29 08:34PM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

Gonna be a Culture Wars debate.

Mainly, Abortion...

by notedgeways 2008-09-29 09:14PM | 0 recs
Ya know...

I'm almost admiring McCain for the amount of humiliation he's able to endure.

On the "open thread" front, it's equally painful and funny to see our Good Old Pumas tearing apart actual progressive female leaders.

by failsafe 2008-09-29 07:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Ya know...

Good luck to that 'brains trust' actually figuring out what's going on now, but I guess where cognitive dissonance meets historical revisionism anything is possible.  It's kind of amusing to see but I feel like a peeping Tom at a fetish Tupperware party just reading it.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-29 08:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Ya know...

Tupperware fetish?  You sick, sick, puppy!  Oh, you meant a potluck for fetishists?  Where?!

Seriously, for me it's partly a "there but for the grace of God" thing, and partly a belief that alegre should never, ever have even a scrap of credibility after her disgraceful behavior this cycle.

by failsafe 2008-09-29 08:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Ya know...

Look, I didn't mean to push the bounds of propriety, I'm delighted they have found an appropriate place to entertain one another and be happy.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-29 09:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Ya know...

that alegre should never, ever have even a scrap of credibility after her disgraceful behavior this cycle.

I never thought she had much "Credibilty" in the first place.

Her stuff was formulaic, still is...

She was a self-appointed guru, with a following.

She proclaimed herself famous after her dumb as self imposed exile at Daily Kos.

She hussled her self onto the rec list here by spamming Hillary is 44 and other sites.

That diary is JUST EXACTLY like the tripe she did here.

Rip someone she hates, of course, someone that didn't genuflect to Hillary...

Gloss over ANY culability the Republicans have in it..

And, close with an unsubstantiated truism that "if Hillary was in charge...." and float some fairy dust lollipop scenario that would ensue.

She is where she deserves to be, surrounded by a small band of sychopants, Alegre is a small fish in a really small pond....

by WashStateBlue 2008-09-29 11:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Ya know...

She's very similar to McCain in one key way:  the world must be divided into Good and Evil.  Any transgression made by Someone Good, no matter how small or inconsequential, is to be ignored or trivialized.  Anything done by Someone Evil is to read in the worst way possible.  And if you can't find anything specific to take umbrage at, just make something up.

by Dreorg 2008-09-30 03:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Ya know...

sigh I wish I could edit, but I understand why I can't.  Hopefully the point is still there, in context.

by Dreorg 2008-09-30 03:45AM | 0 recs
Maddow and Brooks vs. Palin

If you haven't checked out Rachel Maddow's interview with Rosa Brooks about Palin, it's brutal.  I can't think of another election where one ticket has become an utter laughing stock.  Was this what Hoover-Roosevelt was like in '32?

by failsafe 2008-09-29 07:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Maddow and Brooks vs. Palin

...and here's yer tube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogyq4GMpI 0Y

by klevenstein 2008-09-29 11:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Maddow and Brooks vs. Palin

Quayle is the only one I can think of... and it wasn't nearly as bad since the guy running was the sitting veep.  

Maybe Bush/Quayle in 1992?

by yitbos96bb 2008-09-30 03:56AM | 0 recs
already wearing the wire?
That high collar, the weird posture, the moose-in-headlights look--I'm wondering if she already has someone voicing tips in her ear somehow. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't put it past 'em.
by chiefscribe 2008-09-29 08:00PM | 0 recs
Re: already wearing the wire?

Yeah I had the same paranoid thought about the debate.... and as "conspiracy sounding" as it is, I sent a little note to the Obama campaign to at least be aware of the possibility.

by notedgeways 2008-09-29 09:15PM | 0 recs
How utterly

demeaning it is to obviously have McCain on to speak for her.

by pollbuster 2008-09-29 08:25PM | 0 recs
Re: McPalin makes "like" this joke...

Thanks for posting this.  While her speech is utterly content-free, I can actually see her appeal here, from "Buckeyes" to "35 days."  Outside of that ("for choosing for America"?!) I just wanted to cringe.  She definitely has potential, but she's just not ready.

by failsafe 2008-09-29 08:54PM | 0 recs
Call of Duty

In the back of American's minds, they have to seriously wonder if she could be called on to serve as POTUS if anything ever happened to McCain.

Regardless, baring a major gaffe, I think it's over.

by nzubechukwu 2008-09-29 09:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Call of Duty

I'm sure we'll have to undergo a few more rounds of John throwing the dice and doubling up. he has nothing to lose at this point.

by notedgeways 2008-09-29 09:17PM | 0 recs
Exactly

and that is the scary thing. Who knows what McCain will do next.

by SocialDem 2008-09-30 05:16AM | 0 recs
As Cafferty has said...

she is "pathetic".

But... in some way, I feel sorry for her. When I feel this way, I also feel a little violated for even giving her ANY sympathy at all!

The whole thing makes me ILL!

by kevin22262 2008-09-29 10:15PM | 0 recs
Lowered Expectations

Every time I hear a GOP hack talk about the upcoming debates, they are saying Biden will win. It's like they are trying to talk America into accepting Palin by lowering their expectations.

It is really sad to think that this is our choice. I mean, I like Biden in some ways, I just wish there was really a challenge, or really a debate. Winning is more than beating up on a simpleton.

M

by techsoldaten 2008-09-29 10:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Lowered Expectations

I disagree...

I'm with Chris Bowers on this...

McCain was CLEARLY the strongest GOPer to run against...   Beating him is huge... its a repudiation of the GOP over the last 14 years.  The bigger the win the better.  If Biden beating up on a moron suns up the score... all the better.  An EV win of 375 or better would be fantastic.

by yitbos96bb 2008-09-30 03:54AM | 0 recs
The answer

The answer . . . nothing.

by scytherius 2008-09-29 10:35PM | 0 recs
Pizza Place?

What?!  Hu?  Is the senility set in already?  Does McCain think he's funny?  What on earth is he trying to say here?

by jkfp2004 2008-09-29 10:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Pizza Place?

I don't think he was trying to be funny. I think it's worse than that. I think he was saying, "It was just a stupid pizza place! People like Sarah and I shouldn't even be forced to step foot in such low-life places!"

by ratmach 2008-09-29 10:52PM | 0 recs
Not even ONE other SC case?

Oh, say, Brown v. Board of Education?!

C'mon! Even though the American people aren't always the brightest in the world, I'd still say that the vast majority could name at least THAT one.

(There are, of course, about a dozen others that everyone SHOULD know... but that's another matter.)

by ratmach 2008-09-29 10:50PM | 0 recs
Pitiable/Not Pitiable

Even I had a tinge of pity for her in those interviews, but then I see these smarmy, nasty little stump speeches.  Thanks for posting this one.

by mikeinsf 2008-09-30 12:18AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie?

I'm amazed at all the empty dismissive chatter from the supposedly enlightened left. The way you make fun of a disabled war vet (and yet feign concern for equality for disabled Americans) and belittle Palin. Here's a thought, if you are so progressive, why do Democrats not declare themselves socialist as the European have proudly done so. Why do Democrats, including Obama, need to run a feux Republicans? Why not run openly as Social Democrats , like the New Democrats or Liberals of Canada?

by AmericanFreedomDE 2008-09-30 12:51AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie?

don't feed the troll.

by Jess81 2008-09-30 01:08AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie?

Man, getting more and more GOP trolls lately. They are scared to DEATH.

by vcalzone 2008-09-30 05:45AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie

typo correction repost

I'm amazed at all the empty dismissive chatter from the supposedly enlightened left. The way you make fun of a disabled war vet (and yet feign concern for equality for disabled Americans) and belittle Palin. Here's a thought, if you are so progressive, why do Democrats not declare themselves, socialists, as the European have proudly done? Why do Democrats, including Obama, need to run a feux Republicans? Why not run openly as Social Democrats , like the New Democrats or Liberals of Canada?

by AmericanFreedomDE 2008-09-30 01:07AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie

You have a typo in your "typo re-post" troll.

by lojasmo 2008-09-30 03:05AM | 0 recs
enligntened lef??

I don't understand why Palin isn't doing more interviews in America. In her hourlong appearance on Canadian TV, she engaged in a trenchant critique of Samuel Huntington's clash-of-civilizations theory, identifying the western Balkans and central Asia as but two significant outliers. She acknowledged Syrian secret service involvement in past unrest in Lebanon, but said to craft a Syria-focused US policy vis-a-vis Lebanon for that reason alone would be "reductionist." I didn't understand the second half-hour very well, when she was answering the questions in French. But I think she gently corrected the interviewer's imprecise use of the word "geostrategic."

by wellinformed 2008-09-30 05:42AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful

The line of attack here should be not that Palin is such a screwup that McCain has to babysit her for her interviews - anybody can see that for themselves.  It should be that he won't let her speak, because if he does she might find herself agreeing with Obama (see: Pakistan)

by Jess81 2008-09-30 01:09AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie?

I'm amazed at all the empty dismissive chatter from the supposedly enlightened left. The way you make fun of a disabled war vet (and yet feign concern for equality for disabled Americans) and belittle Palin. Here's a thought, if you are so progressive, why do Democrats not declare themselves, socialists, as the European have proudly done? Why do Democrats, including Obama, need to run a feux Republicans? Why not run openly as Social Democrats , like the New Democrats or Liberals of Canada?

by AmericanFreedomDE 2008-09-30 01:17AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie?

McCain is NOT a disabled war vet.  Someone like Bob Dole or Max Cleeland... those were disabled vets.    McCain is a simply a war vet.  We respect his service to his country.  Its the betrayal of those values and the values of American he perpetrated SINCE coming home frm Vietnam, especially the last 8 years, that are the fodder of contempt, jokes and disqualify him as President.

Palin is a fucking moron... pure and simple.   I'd be pissed if my party nominated someone like her VP, like you are little republican.  Obama may be new to the scene but he understands and has a strong grasp of the situations and issues this country faces.  Are there others with better grasps?  Yes... but Obama is light years more prepared than Palin is.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-09-30 03:49AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie?

Unless you count PTSD as a disability.  I've got it, and I know how it fucks up your worldview.

Paranoia, desire to control every aspect, hyperattentiveness, exaggerated emotional/physical responses to stimulii, mania, self-doubt, outbursts, inability to maintain close relationships, sleep disorders, willingness to take unnecessary risks, lowered resistance to disease.

Thats just me, I only got run over by an 18wheeler, I wasn't the human pinata.

It festers, it does not go away easily or at all, it will fundamentally change a person's personality.

He's nuts, plain and simple.

by mydailydrunk 2008-10-02 04:44AM | 0 recs
Re: What's More Painful Than Watching Katie Couric

1)  Is it just me or does she look a lot older than she did a few weeks ago...

2)  Does anyone else feel like she is the real life equivalent of Michael Scott (Steve Carrell, The Office)...  just someone who you cringe at watching but can't turn away?

3)  Anyone else want to see her get her own reality show...I'd be fascinated to watch...

by yitbos96bb 2008-09-30 03:44AM | 0 recs
"Yet somehow, I can't stop watching."

The first signs...

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-09-30 03:56AM | 0 recs
"the first signs"

The first signs of what?

by vcalzone 2008-09-30 05:46AM | 0 recs
Re: "the first signs"

exactly.

actually i have no idea.

by Jess81 2008-09-30 03:36PM | 0 recs
she will be fine

I don't understand why Palin isn't doing more interviews in America. In her hourlong appearance on Canadian TV, she engaged in a trenchant critique of Samuel Huntington's clash-of-civilizations theory, identifying the western Balkans and central Asia as but two significant outliers. She acknowledged Syrian secret service involvement in past unrest in Lebanon, but said to craft a Syria-focused US policy vis-a-vis Lebanon for that reason alone would be "reductionist." I didn't understand the second half-hour very well, when she was answering the questions in French. But I think she gently corrected the interviewer's imprecise use of the word "geostrategic."

by wellinformed 2008-09-30 06:51AM | 0 recs

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