Lol play games? Perhaps you need to get your facts right regarding how the dates were switched earlier for both Michigan and Florida. Both their circumstances are different. Rather than bringing up old bad blood, the entire nomination process need to be revamped with caucusing being the first to get phase out. If small states wants to go first, fine, but the conduct of the nomination process have to be fair and democratic. Caucusing is not. And we have to let every small states have their share of going first, not reserving those spots for Iowa and NH.

But all these will not happen as the party heads themselves would want the status quo to remain so they could remain omnipotent with their influence. This goes the same to the activists who worked hard so they could also have those influences.

Why this is a bad move is because there are still so many people who are very emotionally attached to Hillary and if you want to remind them every month about what Hillary did right but still lost for various reasons, you will never get those votes. In fact, people listen to what they want to hear. This goes the same with polling. There are so many lifelong democrats whom i know that have not forgiven the DNC for 'awarding' the nomination to Obama. Keep on reminding them that fact will only irritate those voters. And more importantly this deep sense of attachment is there because so many have invested in both Clinton and Obama as both of their candidacy are historic. It's like gambling soccer, if you don't put money in, whoever wins or loses does not matter, but once you give even the slightest amount in, you are investing your heart and soul in that race.

P.S. For those of you who wants to argue or qq over DNC giving the nomination to Obama, just remember this, superdelegates gave Obama enough numbers to secure the nomination, but that cannot be done for Clinton because it would be stealing the nomination from Obama. This narrative I hope will enlighten many of you to why many of us are not in the donkeywagon yet.

What will give tier candidates a real chance is a national primary with IRV. Any variation of the current rigged jury system will only result in more of the same.

Oh good lord.  Seriously?  Jerome?  Todd?  Josh?  Can we please get some better trolls around here?

Shazone, you're the most boring McTroll here.

I get great pleasure imagining your horror when Barack Obama is elected President of the United States over your preferred candidate.

It's going to be the exact same delegation either way.  The only issue is whether the people in that delegation will get to cast one vote apiece, or one-half of a vote.

They have been - it was all about their political influence, which was diminished.  It doesn't punish them any less by seating at full strength.

we were ignored, and Clinton got no momentum out of winning either state - which was the correct outcome as far as I am concerned.

What still bothers me is the failure to punish Iowa and New Hampshire.  We need small states to go first - but they should be rotated.

spankings!

bare bottoms!

Is there an acronym for the many Obama supporters who viciously sliced and diced Hillary, abused her supporters, and threatened not to vote for her if she won the nomination during the primary?

Obama and his followers need total devotion, I guess.

You deadenders remind me of Confederates who could never accept that their cause was lost. Here's the news -- it's over. You lost. The South shall not rise again.

No soup for you!

Fail, catfish2.

Back to Alegre's Pen for you!

Some people don't need a separate comment for each sentence or thought they want to share with the rest of us.  I applaud your unique approach.

You can say that again!

Maybe new polls came out, or a new focus group. He changes on this and drilling and NASA all at the same time.

You say that as if he's not ahead.

if florida and michigan would have been defrauded like they should have

go along with?

Some of us resent this and believe we have a right to do so.  This is so phony.  All the cries of "rules are rules" were lies.  Down and dirty lies to keep Hillary from winning.  It wasn't fair then; it isn't fair now.  

What part of this don't you consider "discussing?"  I am discussing this.  It stinks of pandering and machinations of a political campaign that lied about "change".

I wish someone would ban you. I really do. Your such a prima fucking donna.

I'll chime in. I find your constant troll accusations childish and disruptive. You are damaging this site, and if you thought about it you would realize your behaviour does nothing but damage to Barack Obama. If you have something to say, say it. If you have a complaint about other users then contact the admins through the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of every page.

well what a shock, the HR abusers club crawls out to "defend" your constant whining.

New politics eh? NIce to see you around Gray! You are missed!

What's deceptively clever about that is you are in a position to claim that no matter WHO won.   But it's an old trick here: people who use it are believed to be McCain voters anyway since it makes absolutely no sense to blame the whole thing on one candidate, when they ALL agreed.  And in Hillary Clinton's case, actually controlled the committee that put the sanctions in place.

But you had no way of knowing that.  Nice try.

McCain has early stage dementia.

Neither Hillary nor Obama would have gotten your vote.

Don't let them depress you -- that's what they're after. Insead, let them make you want to defeat them.

This thread was the straw that broke the camel's back.  They've won.  I'm out.

This is what a lack of meaningful moderation gets you, Jerome & Co.

You've got it figured out!

Obama decided to do this fully knowing that Clinton would therefore win the nomination!

Quick, run to NoQuarter and announce the good news!

Hey, no one would have known that anyone on this site was for/against the new FISA legislation but for the fact that Obama took a position on it.  I can't tell whether the majority are just that myopic or actually are completely unprincipled.