DNCC: Joe Biden

Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden is introducing his Dad. This is actually a really moving speech in and of itself.

"I have something to ask of you: be there for both of them!"

"Please help me in welcoming my friend, my father, my hero, the next Vice President of the United States of America."

Update [2008-8-27 22:46:27 by Todd Beeton]:"I am proud to live in a country with the bravest soldiers in the world."

"Yes, yes I accept your nomination to run and serve with Barack Obama as the next Vice President of America."

This speech is really moving.

This place is dead silent.

This place is going nuts at the "George...I mean, John McCain..." line.

"John McCain is my friend...but I profoundly disagree with the direction John McCain wants to take this country."

Biden's repeated refrain: "That's not change, that's more of the same." It's a little awkward but true.

"These times require more than a good soldier, they require a wise leader." I really like this line.

(I'm running out of battery, so continue to discuss in the comments.)

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Comments

103 Comments

Breathless and speechless

at the same time.

by NJ Liberal 2008-08-27 06:32PM | 0 recs
Here we go, Scranton!

Once again, my PA bias is showing.

Growing up in the coal region, we had few people to look up to.

Having a governor, and then a senator from my area was awesome.

Having a veep born in Scranton is fucking bananas.

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 06:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Here we go, Scranton!

Lets hope the rest of Scranton and the similiar parts of Ohio agree.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:44PM | 0 recs
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great shot to joebama mama

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:36PM | 0 recs
the worst eight words in the english lang

"The Vice President's Office is on the phone"

Zinger straight at Cheney.

That opener by Joe's son, btw, still has me choked up.

and joe's mom is the greatest.

by chrisblask 2008-08-27 06:36PM | 0 recs
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that's one hell of a mom!

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:36PM | 0 recs
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Joe's mom is great.

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 06:37PM | 0 recs
And she nods:

"It's true, I did say that"

Ya' just wanna get her a tea and brush your hair...

by chrisblask 2008-08-27 06:39PM | 0 recs
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Each cut shot after each story showed her saying "That's true."

That just made it better and funnier.

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 06:40PM | 0 recs
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Joe's mom is great.

In the Biden family, children were taught to respect the habit, but not necessarily the person in it. As a boy, Biden took endless ribbing from classmates for a stutter he later overcame. Much of the time, the nuns tried to help. But when a seventh-grade teacher mimicked Bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-Biden's stutter in front of the class, his mother, Jean, demanded a meeting with the principal and the offending nun. "If you ever speak to my son like that again, I'll come back and rip that bonnet off your head," she said. Later, when then-Senator Biden told her he was going to visit the pope, she said: "Don't you kiss his ring."

by Obama44 2008-08-27 07:24PM | 0 recs
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I just have say it loud and clear.....I AM SO PROUD OF MY PARTY!!

by zenful6219 2008-08-27 06:38PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

second the motion!

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:42PM | 0 recs
Simply said...Joe Biden is a good guy...

by louisprandtl 2008-08-27 06:38PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

"Breaking News: Obama to make surprise appearance on stage with Biden after speech"

Well, it used to be a surprise appearance...

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 06:38PM | 0 recs
hard to get past the gauntlet of MSM

with a motorcade...

by chrisblask 2008-08-27 06:40PM | 0 recs
Re: hard to get past the gauntlet of MSM

Yeah those Damn Secret Service... trying to keep the nominee and the President protected and alive ;-)  Obama better get used to it (well he is by now... JOE better get used to it)

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: hard to get past the gauntlet of MSM

What sort of Secret Service people are they if they can't keep one little secret? Tinted windows, changing cars, false tracks to throw people off the trail!

I've seen it on TV! They can do it!

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 07:02PM | 0 recs
If they were really Secret

would we even know they existed?

by chrisblask 2008-08-27 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

fruedean slip my ass:P

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:39PM | 0 recs
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"Freudian slip!"

by rfahey22 2008-08-27 06:39PM | 0 recs
ROFLMAO!!!!

I bet it was a slip, he's got that incredible honesty thing going I have to believe it...

by chrisblask 2008-08-27 06:40PM | 0 recs
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This speech is really moving.

I agree, I teared up a bit.
by vcalzone 2008-08-27 06:40PM | 0 recs
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The Father-Son/Daughter bit got to me.

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 06:56PM | 0 recs
what was that Freudian slip...dang I missed it...

by louisprandtl 2008-08-27 06:40PM | 0 recs
Re: what was that Freudian slip...

He said that we can't afford to elect George ... John McCain.

by rfahey22 2008-08-27 06:41PM | 0 recs
Re: what was that Freudian slip...dang I missed it

Instead of saying John McCain, he said "George B-" before catching himself.

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 06:41PM | 0 recs
Re: what was that Freudian slip...dang I missed

..."that's what will happen if George.., um John McCain..."

by chrisblask 2008-08-27 06:42PM | 0 recs
Re: what was that Freudian slip...dang I missed it

Joe referred to John McCain as George Bush

Oopsie!

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 06:42PM | 0 recs
Thanks guys...I think he meant...

We couldn't afford George Bush (what a disaster..look what happened to our dear country)...now we cannot afford John McCain..

by louisprandtl 2008-08-27 06:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks guys...I think he meant...

I'm pretty sure it was intentionally done...

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:51PM | 0 recs
pretty unremarkable

maybe compared to the other speeches, but this is dull and boring

by Lakrosse 2008-08-27 06:42PM | 0 recs
Re: pretty unremarkable

What would please your majesties senses?

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:46PM | 0 recs
Re: pretty unremarkable

Shorter Lakrosse:

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I am unhappy and I need attention."

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 06:47PM | 0 recs
Yawn

by SocialDem 2008-08-27 07:56PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

I believe he meant to say "tax CUTS".

by vcalzone 2008-08-27 06:44PM | 0 recs
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did he mean tax cuts?  when he said 200 million?

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:44PM | 0 recs
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love this more of the same chant!

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:45PM | 0 recs
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That's not change, that's more of the same.

OK THAT LINE NEEEDS TO BE HIT FROM NOW UNTIL ELECTION DAY.  If they can work it into the debates, even better.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:45PM | 0 recs
Go get 'em, Joe

When's the VP debate? I can't wait.

by NJ Liberal 2008-08-27 06:46PM | 0 recs
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"That's not change ... that's more of the same"

"A wise leader..."

Talk about sound bites!

This is good stuff

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 06:46PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC ERROR!

It is DNC
Democratic National Convention

NOT

DCCC
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

by Woody 2008-08-27 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC ERROR!

I guess DNCC is "Democratic National Convention Commitee".  I think I've seen DNCC and thought the same thing, though.

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 06:51PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC ERROR!

Democratic National Committee Convention

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 06:52PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC ERROR!

No, it's the People's Front of Judea.

by vcalzone 2008-08-27 06:55PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC ERROR!

You eedjit, it's the Judean Peoples' Front.

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 06:56PM | 0 recs
Nah...

It's the Judean Popular People's Front, you splitters.

by Trond Jacobsen 2008-08-27 07:12PM | 0 recs
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My sister who is not political at all just left the room to hide the tears!

/She's voting for the very first time this year!

by hocuspocus 2008-08-27 06:51PM | 0 recs
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18?  Or hadn't voted before?

Ok Them on stage just got me tearing up.  I feel so damn proud right now.  Wow.  Just Wow.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:56PM | 0 recs
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she's 22 and have never voted before

by hocuspocus 2008-08-27 07:24PM | 0 recs
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John McCain was wrong and Barack Obama was right

Line of the night?

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 06:52PM | 0 recs
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I liked that one a lot more than the chants of "More of the Same" from the crowd.

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 06:54PM | 0 recs
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wow... he's like a pit bull... AWESOME!  Great choice Obama!!

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:52PM | 0 recs
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"remember when the world used to trust us?"  THAT'S the line of the night!

by Doug Tuttle 2008-08-27 06:52PM | 0 recs
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Yeah it is

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 06:52PM | 0 recs
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I think he read one of my old posts.

First, Biden and speakers tomorrow must pound home the message: John McCain's experience is being wrong. For all of his experience, McCain has made the wrong decision continually. Continually wrong on Iraq. Continually wrong on the economy. Continually wrong on all of the issues that Americans care about. On the flip side, Obama, especially on concern issues like the "war on terror" (with tomorrow being national security night), has been continually correct. He said Iraq was a mistake and would distract us. He was right. He said that we needed more troops in Afghanistan and, hey, what do you know, the Pentagon says more troops are needed (but unlikely since they're in Iraq). He said that we need timetables on when our combat troops step aside for the Iraqis. Now even the Bush administration has started talking about that. John McCain is currently to the right of the Bush Administration on this issue and that cannot go un-noted. All the experience in the world is not helping McCain with fundamental judgment.

OK, maybe not, but I had a sense of deja vu.

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 06:52PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Not the best speaker, but should do well in the debates.

by mjc888 2008-08-27 06:53PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

He attracts a different type of crowd. It was a very nice speech, though when you have to follow Hillary the night before and Bill the same night, it's almost impossible to live up to that bar.

The only thing he should beware is his style does not lend itself to repeated slogans. He's brash, emotional and straight forward. The pauses for the crowd were kind of awkward.

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 07:06PM | 0 recs
Anytime you see tons of people crying....

it's not a good sign. Beau Biden's speech was too personal, and in poor taste. You want upbeat at these things; you don't want people in tears.

Who needs "Days of our Lives" when you've got the Biden family history??? Car accidents, stuttering, hardship...many of us get depressed enough without listening to these horrible stories.

All of his great story is true. I used to see Senator Biden on the Metroliner between DC and New York during the '80's; sometimes one of his kids was with him. He is a great family man.

But voters get cynical when politicians use family tragedy to excess in selling themselves. The GOP often calls us the party of "gloom and doom"...people like Biden give them plenty of ammunition.

This was an upbeat evening at the convention until Biden took the stage.....now it's just downbeat and depressing.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-08-27 06:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Anytime you see tons of people crying....

You're an idiot. McCain's whole POW tale is a tear-jerker.  Emotion works unless you overdo it.

by elrod 2008-08-27 06:56PM | 0 recs
Winning friends and influencing people

is what politics should be about...you won't do it by call people idiots. But if you're happy with a Gallup Poll which has McCain 46%, Obama 44%, then have at it. Most people prefer winning.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-08-27 07:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Winning friends and influencing people

The reason we lose over and over again is because we often don't sell the person. Kerry didn't have a personal story to tell. Neither did Gore really. Who was the last Presidential candidate who really did for us? Oh yeah... might've been a guy named Bill Clinton.

The fact that both the Biden's and Obama have personal and meaningful life stories is a good thing for us and a good thing for them. In that vein Beau did a great job of introducing the country to the VP they should get to know and love.

Sorry you didn't like it. Sorry you want to hear about nothing but policy. Sorry you like throwing tracking polls in peoples faces. Sorry you felt it was reasonable to mock the Biden story as a soap opera (speaking of in poor taste.)

by JDF 2008-08-27 07:19PM | 0 recs
John Kerry, reporting for duty....

Kerry's story WAS personal, that's the whole point. He turned the 2004 convention into a four day infomercial about his experience in Vietnam, which was promptly the target of the swift-boaters, led by Dr. Corsi.

Candidates--especially Obama and Biden--need to learn the cardinal rule of politics: voters don't want to hear about YOUR past. They more interested in THEIR future.

So: let's talk about drill/drill/drill; people are sick of $4 gas. Let's talk about free trade and growing the economy. Let's talk about jobs.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-08-27 08:38PM | 0 recs
Re: John Kerry, reporting for duty....

You know nothing about politics. I am done with you.

by JDF 2008-08-27 10:27PM | 0 recs
Re: John Kerry, reporting for duty....

That doesn't even make sense.  Americans love sensational media; they like to see the underdog prevail as long as it is done with tact.  No one wants to see a politician with a sob story.

by selfevident 2008-08-28 07:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Winning friends and influencing people

I'm not happy with a poll that says that.

However, I'm happier with one that says McCain 44%, Obama 45%, such as today's. Pretty good one-day swing, and that was based on Michelle Obama's speech. I'm optimistic we get another strong move from Hillary Clinton's speech yesterday, and yet another between Bill Clinton's and Joe Biden's speeches tonight.

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-08-27 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Anytime you see tons of people crying....

Piss off, Jackass.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-27 06:56PM | 0 recs
Expressing yourself like that...

is why--in the worst Republican year imaginable--McCain leads in the polls. Real Americans don't like the shrill tone of Obam-orons.

Fortunately, most Americans realize that you can disagree without being disagreeable.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-08-27 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Expressing yourself like that...

most Americans realize that you can disagree without being disagreeable

Unfortunately, you haven't figured out how, exactly, to do it yet.  

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 07:05PM | 0 recs
Go back to moron-ville (LGF) you McTroll

by Lefty Coaster 2008-08-27 07:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Anytime you see tons of people crying....

Anytime you see BJJ Fighter criticizing something the Dems do, its a good sign that they're doing something right.  

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 07:01PM | 0 recs
Not just me...check out the polls.

Come out of your cave and see what the real world thinks.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-08-27 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Not just me...check out the polls.

I'm not the one cowering in a cave, "concerned" that everything is "good for McCain" and "good for the Republicans".

If you're worried, spend less time on the interwebs and more time volunteering.  Stop pissing in the punchbowl and go work for your candidate (whoever they may be).

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 07:10PM | 0 recs
White working class appeal

His speech was not flowing rhetoric like Bill and Barack. But it was red meat and it was delivered from the heart in a way that appeals to older white working class voters.

by elrod 2008-08-27 06:55PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

The best part of that speech is that it was NOT polished.

Obama is an amazing orator and that can be very inspiring. But Biden's way of speaking may not be as perfect, but I think he can really connect with voters with the way he speaks.

by BlueGAinDC 2008-08-27 06:55PM | 0 recs
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I think you may be on to something.  I remember Gore and Kerry killing Bush in the debates, but Bush was seen as the winner in polls.  

"Regular guy"/"he's just like me" sells these days.

by mjc888 2008-08-27 07:01PM | 0 recs
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Now take "common guy" and add on "encyclopedia of everything political".

That should play well in the debates.

by TCQuad 2008-08-27 07:03PM | 0 recs
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He'll perform very well in the debates, perhaps as good if not better than Obama.

I wouldn't run to see Biden speak, but nobody is doing that for McCain, and he currently has 50% of the nationsl polls.

by mjc888 2008-08-27 07:07PM | 0 recs
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Actually, McCain has a one-point lead in one tracking poll. In 4 polls he's behind, in one he's tied.

I'd prefer there to be a wider margin. I'm not at this point doubting that the convention is going to open up the margin considerably.

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-08-27 07:43PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Tomorrow we see the results post-Hillary's speech. It will be interesting, as will be the results post-Biden. If McCain picks Lieberman (Rove made a call begging Lieberman to decline it, apparently), the polls will jump even higher. I don't care what anyone says, people do NOT like Joe. They might think he's an okay guy, a decent Senator, but nobody wants to have him over for a barbecue, nobody wants to see him in office for four years.

by vcalzone 2008-08-27 07:49PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Thunder and Lightning.

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 07:06PM | 0 recs
Wooo Hooo! Barack is in the House!

Obama and the Bidens together.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-08-27 06:56PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Wow...is all I can say.

The VP pick turns from liability to asset....

So there be better a large bounce showing up on the weekend trakers.

by esconded 2008-08-27 07:00PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Nice way to try and raise expectations and if it doesn't happen, say I told you so.

by venician 2008-08-27 07:12PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

It is so damn cool to be the special guest at your convention.

What an awesome convention this has turned into: great speeches, powerful unity, great message, on key, on point, just all around perfect.

And it's turned into a lovefest...like Woodstock - except with a little less sex and drugs.

by Babloo328 2008-08-27 07:00PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

I am feeling good.  They have structured this convention very nicely to build up to tomorrow night.

And how great is going to be to have Al Gore introduce Obama tomorrow night.  Gore will undoubtedly skewer McCain but his presence will also remind everyone of how different the last 8 years could have been and with the country's buyers remorse this has to be helpful for Obama.

by jmnyc 2008-08-27 07:04PM | 0 recs
I think he said lot of right things

While he may not have been the most effective speaker of the night, he clearly tried to connect hard-working Americans.

And several things he said hit the right note. I like the passage when he talked about taking the train to wilmington every day from work and the stories that he heard from hard-working Americans.

It began with Clinton yesterday, but after Bill and Joe today, they made one thing very-2 clear. And that is ``change'' is not an abstract quantity; but something that affects everybody's life.
The choice before people is not to choose between a ``celebrity'' and a ``POW'' but between their own secure future and irreparable damage to several future directions. Finally, I think the Dem convention has found its real voice.  

by ann0nymous 2008-08-27 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Joe Biden questioned John McCain's judgment.  This is LONG........... over due.  McCain has Been WRONG on Foreign policy.  You can not trust the party that allowed 3,000 people to die on 9-11 to 4 more years.  Blunt stuff.  Wrong on Iraq.

by nzubechukwu 2008-08-27 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Why the hell is David Gregory interviewing David Letterman?

Oops, that's Tom Daschle.

Nice specks.

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Biden's speech is getting a bit of flak for delivery on CNN but they miss the whole point, it was pitch-perfect in portraying Biden as an 'everyman' candidate who speaks of the issues of genuine concern to middle-class voters in simple terms.  He is convincingly 'authentic and honest' and that is exactly the 'ham and cheese' that Biden brings to our emerging victory.  It is vital, sincere and a convincing affirmation of Obama's choice of him as VP.  I reckon his little grandson, who was firmly clasping his neck as he was carried through Biden's post speech walk-about, was as formidable an advocate of Democratic values as any orator tonight.

Incidentally, did you see Obama's call-outs to Hillary and Bill?  The Clintons seemed genuinely pleased, and rightly so.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-08-27 07:20PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

I watched CSPAN tonight for just that reason ... I'm watching MSNBC now, but I missed the Schweitzer speech last night because they didn't show it...

The shout-outs were good TV, and I'm hoping the media just STFU on the "feud"

Chuck Todd, whom I normally like is calling Biden's speech disjointed.

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

hey i love Chuck Todd, doesn't mean I will agree with him 100% of the time.

he is best when he is talking numbers, he needs to keep with that

by TruthMatters 2008-08-27 07:28PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, I can see that he might from an oratorical perspective, but that misses the point.  As for defining Biden, who hasn't really had that much national exposure, as a 'kitchen-table' Democrat it was perfect.  And we need that.

And Biden's fearless derision of McCain's foreign policy was refreshingly prominent as well, another important message.  I liked the line We don't need a good soldier, we need a good leader best myself.  Let's hope that becomes a credo of the campaign, reinforced endlessly.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-08-27 07:33PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Todd went on to talk about how Biden was using a new speechwriter, and that he wasn't completely comfortable with the text etc, etc ... that makes sense, but I think there was alot more good in his speech than not.

Maybe I'm biased (yay Scranton!) but I think that was a little much from Todd.

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 07:42PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

I like Chuck Todd, but I think he just missed the whole point here.  It was better that Biden was a bit halting, made a few grammatical mistakes and dropped a few tempos.  It makes him seem more normal and accessible and effectively undercuts the whole 'Obama as celebrity' narrative.

And as for content, Biden packed more credible criticism of McCain's foreign policy experience into one 'lunch-pail' speech than all the other candidates combined have accomplished collectively in over a year.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-08-27 07:50PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

Well said.

I like Todd alot, I think his understanding of the numbers and ground game are second to none, and when he's on Olbermann it's a highlight.

I think that Joe gave us alot of great sound bites, and made it very clear who he and Obama are, and who McCain is.

by dannybauder 2008-08-27 07:58PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

I think it's pretty clear Biden delivered exactly what he could to best help our chances, and it was pretty significant.  If it comes in an unremarkable package in many ways all the better.

And his demolition of McCain's foreign policy somehow sneaked through the 'kid from Scranton' rhetoric without causing a ripple, to hopefully be served up at kitchen-tables and water-coolers all across middle-America.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-08-27 08:12PM | 0 recs
The night was very well done

From Bill Clinton to Obama's surprise appearance, the Democrats really did well tonight. Biden's speech was a very good VP speech. He was passionate and talked about meat and potatoes.

by Zzyzzy 2008-08-27 07:28PM | 0 recs
The night was very well done

From Bill Clinton to Obama's surprise appearance, the Democrats really did well tonight. Biden's speech was a very good VP speech. He was passionate and talked about meat and potatoes.

by Zzyzzy 2008-08-27 07:29PM | 0 recs
Re: DNCC: Joe Biden

I didn't see Biden's speech so I can't critique it. But to those who think it wasn't great, I'd say getting sandwiched between Clinton and Obama must be every speaker's nightmare.

And besides, Obama's speech is the one that needs to be, and will be, GOOOOOOOOREAT!

by Obama44 2008-08-27 07:33PM | 0 recs
Biden broke the pace of the evening

OK, who needs "Days of our Lives" when you've got the Biden family history??? Car accidents, stuttering, hardship...many of us get depressed enough without listening to these horrible stories.

All of his great story is true. I used to see Senator Biden on the Metroliner between DC and New York during the '80's; sometimes one of his kids was with him. He is a great family man.

But voters get cynical when politicians use family tragedy to excess in selling themselves. The GOP often calls us the party of "gloom and doom"...people like Biden give them plenty of ammunition.

This was an upbeat evening at the convention until Biden took the stage.....now it's just downbeat and depressing.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-08-27 07:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Biden broke the pace of the evening

I find it hard to believe that you liked this comment so much you posted it twice.  I did you the courtesy of ignoring it the first time.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-08-27 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Biden broke the pace of the evening

I'm through interacting with these few remaining McTrolls. I just give 'em a donut and move on.

by Obama44 2008-08-27 08:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Biden broke the pace of the evening

HR'd for pasting the same comment twice into this thread (and once more into two others).

by blueAZ 2008-08-27 07:45PM | 0 recs

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