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by Todd Beeton, Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 05:25:44 PM EDT
What's going on this fine Friday night?
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by Todd Beeton, Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 05:25:44 PM EDT
What's going on this fine Friday night?
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Hey Todd, love your stuff. Too bad it's on the same site as this..
And then we come to prayer-gate. I am not going to rehash it all. Many, many here cannot understand that someone who supports him believes the prayer was deliberately leaked. After reading and seeing all there is to see about it I would have to say that my honest opinion is: I don't know. And at this point I do think it is unclear what actually happened. But I have a very jaundiced view of the Obama campaign machine. Perhaps this comes with having been on the other side in the primary, I don't know.Does that make me a bad democrat? Does that make me someone who cannot support the nominee? Does that mean I am a troll or a right wing plant, or a Republican or engaging in swift boating our nominee?
Of course not.
On the rec list too.
Also it's pretty sad that your Rec list is manipulated by people who write stuff like this elsewhere...
Reparations? Couldn't be.
by: catfish
Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 20:55:37 PM EDTSurely that's not what Obama was talking about at a recent conference for journalists of color. Frankly, my blood pressure spiked a little after I read the "R" word in Obama's quote. But who knows. It's certainly a topic worth discussing. Does he plan to implement reparations as president? Here's Obama on July 28:
"I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.
"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."
Could be another famous slip-of-the-Obama tongue to add to the collection. ... (Snip some offensive quote chopping questions)...
Should debate moderators broach the topic of reparations this fall? Would that be seen as racist? Would it be racist, given Obama's statements at the UNITY '08 journalist conference? I'd like to know if, given that my ancestors arrived after the Civil War, would I be taxed to pay reparations to somebody like Obama, whose father also arrived in this country after the Civil War. (Or: if we find that his mother's ancestors owned slaves, would he be taxed to pay reparations to slave descendants?)
Obviously, this is an uncomfortable topic for moderators to broach in a national debate. But it could implicate tax policy under a new administration.
I was under the impression that reparations were a fringe idea.
However, Cathfish omitted that when specifically asked moments later by CNN correspondent Suzanne Malveaux whether he supported "offering reparations to various groups," Obama replied, "You know, I have said in the past, and I'll repeat again, that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed. And I think that strategies that invest in lifting people out of the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, but that have brought applicability and allow us to build coalitions to actually get these things done, that, I think, is the best strategy." Catfish also omitted that Obama repeatedly has said he does not favor monetary reparations for descendants of slaves.
Then in the comments section...
The idea of handing money over to some "Black Community" gives me visions of handing money to a community organizer, like Jeremiah Wright. Maybe because Obama would name his faith-based cabinet the Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
Frankly, I thought more people would freak out
after reading his quotes. I know I did. And I think he should be asked about it by the press.
by: catfish @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 20:22:19 PM CDT
This isn't a free speech zone.
This is a website that bans republican trolls.
Here is a google search of the quote your troll used..
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Funny how the only progressive hit is from media matters debunking this shit.
linfar peddling the hard right kook site Israelinsider.com
catfish peddling freerepublic worldnutdaily, nationalreview.
Ban the trolls.
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