Can you add Biden to your poll? I'd like to vote for him.  

'Cuz there's no option for "None of the Above". None of these options seems all that appealing. Both of the Governors mentioned look too milquetoast, while Bayh (though Hillary supporter is a plus in my book, nice act of unity) looks too centrist in the DLC sort of way.

As I said in the Tim Kaine diary yesterday, I think there are better options for VP out there. Heck, even Joe Biden with his "foot-in-mouth syndrome" would be better... So long as he can get the foot out of his mouth so everyone can actually see how wicked smart he is. :-)

Lingering anti-Clinton spite, across-the-board, IMHO.

He should be on this short list!

both governors fit perfectly with the mantra and what BO has stated in his interviews regarding what they are looking for.

You do realize the VP doesn't have any more say then most others, more just a close confidante so if you can't reconcile in your head what he brings to the table, the VP slot should not be what sways you.

"None of the Above" looks VERY appealing right now!

He's not exactly the most love guy anymore.

And if we lose him, we get a Republican governor in his place (for a year, at least).

"I have a faith-based opposition to abortion."

It's Kaine.

The primaries are over.  Are you ever going to change your sig?

I don't get why Bay gets so much press.

They guy gives me the heebie jeebies.

He just doesn't seem to "love" what he does, if anything I think he is the antithesis to Obama's message.

I like Kain and Sebelius, but PLEASE Wesley Clark needs to get up in there.

Obama is strong, we need an equally strong VP.

Clark is an outsider in that he does not tremble at the offer of power like most politicians with politicking DNA coursing through their veins.

Clark did not fall into a deep depression like almost every other canidate does when they lose.

My point is he wants to serve for the honor of it, not for the power, the prestige, or huge financial contracts.

While listening to his son and former campain manager on the radio, I have gotten to know the personal side of Clark, his life story etc etc.

Oh also, on the strait politics of it all Clark would annialate the whole "Im a VET, boo hoo vote for me" as he never ONCE brought up his story about when he was shot and almost died in Vietnam.
Try and find one person that knew that 1 month ago.

and it's not a sitting senator. (except Webb)

If Hillary had been the nominee, and she picked a token black man as veep, do you think that would have accomplished the same?

...the Obama campaign has to ask for controls on Pres. Clinton because the campaign just can't flush a week or 2 worth of news cycles down the toilet for a Pres. Clinton off the cuff remark or press flare up of some sort.  This would clearly be a non-starter for Sen. Clinton's camp.

All of this makes Sen. Clinton the "In case of emergency" break glass candidate.

The polling disagrees with your anecdotes.

blowback. The same article said the campaign only hired two people from Clinton's inner circle, one being Patti Solis-Doyle. And it said the campaign is doing very little to prepare Democrats for the news that it will not be Hillary.

Mr. Obama's aides are confident that the passions of the primary season have given way to a more pragmatic view among Mrs. Clinton's supporters and that Mr. Obama would not risk a major backlash from women or other constituencies associated with her if the vice presidential slot goes to someone else.

But the Obama camp has done little in public to prepare Clinton supporters for the increasing likelihood that she will not be on the ticket. There is no shortage of speculation among Mrs. Clinton's supporters that she is very much in the running as Mr. Obama begins closing in on a decision.

"Mr. Obama would not risk a major backlash" hehee. HAAHAA. BWAAAHAHAHAHA. HA HA HAA.

Kaine is anti-choice now with a link that conveniently points out how:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Tim_ Kaine_Abortion.htm

I am not going to argue with you over this. He's clearly not someone that choice groups are going to like, and will piss off a lot of women voters in a year in which Clinton ran. I didn't support Clinton. I supported Edwards. This is just clearly stupid DC politics over a guy who isn't even popular right now in on home state. I am not even getting on the issue of his milktoast advocacy in the national address he did or his lack of name id.

Yeah, Baye should be at the bottom of that list.

Remember when he tried to strong arm the delgates in his state not to do what he already did.

It was just super unprofessional, and showed to me someone not serious about national politics.

I really don't dig the govenor thing these days.
They're all just mostly not political driven enough for my tastes.  (Dean and Clinton OBVIOUS exceptions)

We can always just call her Chicky Baby, or how about, TWWINH, that should be easy to remember.

He opposes a gay marriage ban, dude.

They say he's very, very high on the list.

And Obama is heavily courting the faith-based vote, which could be helped if he picked Kaine.

NYT reports Obama camapign is confident no backlash will occur.

Unless the President is a Mental Midget like ol George.   Kaine is the far better choice.  Why stoke the flames of a decent number of very loyal and very unhappy Clinton supporters who associate the acts of female pols like Sebelius with treason?   I could see her in the Cabinet for sure, but Obama may as well steer clear of the Sebelius landmine.

me- they show no vision at all. No "how can we build the party." Just safe choices that are in accord to DC groupthink such as exhibited by A list bloggers these days. No one of that list will do anything to help in this race.

I hope not. Because it seems like every new 'list' is a bigger dissapointment than the last. At this rate, he next list will be something like 'Lieberman, Hagel and Kerry'.

I'm curious.  Have you posted a single comment on anything at all that didn't involve you telling us how you believe that Hillary Clinton must be the VP?  You're entitled to your opinion (which I do respect) but that seems to be your whole reason for posting.

Obama field reporting + Edwards scandal-mongering = no press coverage for McCain.

It would get as much attention as Larry Sinclair. ie, not likely to change anything.

for the KS Gov - a poor judgement regarding her son's prison rape game

To clarify for the confused, the reference is to a board game with a tasteless theme created by Sebelius' son, not an actual game of raping. This is sure to be as controversial as Lynne Cheney's novels. Which is to say, a one-week distraction.

I agree.  I like Sebelius, she's a progressive in a red state, she has executive experience, and though Obama won't carry Kansas, I think her Midwestern persona would be effective in the region and elsewhere.

Also, she's someone who I can imagine my mom relating to, which is kind of a barometer with me.  And Obama seems genuinely comfortable with her and he admires her.  And she's an "outsider".

Her downside is that she has no foreign policy cred, but there's the argument that having someone with too much only emphasizes his lack of foreign policy experience.

As far as her SOTU response, who cares if she's a little boring? Obama has enough "rock star" for the whole ticket.  

And to the nonsense that Hillary is the only woman to consider, that's just a whole other kind of sexism that shouldn't even be considered.  The hardcore Hillary fans will say this, of course, but I doubt even Hillary would agree with their 'logic'.

Sebelius will never fly in D.C. It's a political environment, whether Obama and his supporters accept this or not. She will never accomplish anything as VP because she has no D.C. connections, she lacks any national experience/standing (same as Obama), and (how do I say this nicely?) hasn't paid any dues. This is just reality in D.C. I don't make this stuff up.

It's all well and good to wax philosophically about "change" and "turning the page", blah-blah-blah. It appeals to people who have no clue about D.C. and how things get done.

I spent 20 years in D.C. as a progressive policy wonk and lobbyist. Every person I knew/know (including me) had some connections before we got there, had connections to do our jobs, and still had to pay dues to get anything accomplished. It takes more than 4 years for that to happen.

Look back at previous VPs over history. None of the winning presidents had VPs who were outsiders (e.g., who lacked any knowledge/experience/connections to D.C.): Edwards had Senate experience; Lieberman had Senate experience; Cheney had tons of previous experience; Gore had Senate and House experience; Bush, Sr. had Senate experience; even Quayle had this experience. Mondale had experience, and on and on.

As much wishful thinking as people have for "change" in D.C., Sebelius will never fly (and if Obama chooses her, she will drag him down and will not last more than one term). Obama will spend his time (if he's elected) saddled with a VP who knows zip. And people in D.C. won't cotton to Sebelius - Dems or Republicans, because she has no national experience and no connections. The Washington political scene isn't for amateurs.

Kaine is anti-choice and pro abstinence only sex education - a huge 'diss to women.

in three out of the four counting methods on CNN. She is more inspiring than Obama, especially over time.

history ----   LBJ delivered Texas without a doubt, and thus the presidency for JFK. Just to name one example. Presidential politics did not begin this generation.....despite the feeling around this primary season regarding a lack of historical perspective.    

Oh yes, they would! Kaine is anti-choice and pro abstinence only sex education - which makes this completely disrespectful to women (who comprise about 60 percent of the voting electorate).

Obama likes to prove he's not beholden to progressive blogs.

anti-choice and pro abstinence only sex education.

I wouldn't expect most men to put choice front and center as a reason to reject Kaine, but if they're smart, they will, because this would be a complete insult to pro-choice women: those who supported Hillary Clinton and are still having a hard time supporting Obama and any other progressive/liberal pro-choice women.

If Obama selects Kaine, he can write off a good chunk of women. Is he prepared to do that? Over an issue (choice, Roe v. Wade, SCOTUS appointments) that his campaign relentlessly pushed to Clinton supporters as a reason they "must" support Obama over John McCain?

First and foremost, she doesn't have any national or D.C. experience. You might think this is irrelevant, but Obama is going to need somebody who has knowledge of how D.C. works. Sebelius as a complete outsider from a ruby red state that will never be blue will be more problematic for Obama than good. He can't be wasting time with a VP who knows zip about how things get done in D.C. And Sebelius doesn't, no matter how popular she is in Kansas.

The whole "change" thing that Obama has pushed is just really naive and unrealistic. Washington is a connection city; it's a political city where chits and favors get built up and traded; it's a city and environment where you just don't walk in as a newbie - no matter what level of government - and take over. Like it or not, this is how it is. I spent 20 years there, working as a progressive lobbyist and policy "wonk." I had connections in the first place that got me to D.C. and I still spent years building up the chits and favors and connections. And so does every other politician, lobbyist, policy person.

If Obama chooses Sebelius, she won't last beyond a first term, in part because she doesn't have the D.C. connections and experience.

Yeah, I think you were dreaming. I haven't seen any polls like that.  If you can find a link, please post it.