You are too funny!

needs to find a new sight to hang out in and be negative.  There's plenty of Obama bashing sites for you -- and I am sure you are a frequent visitor.

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I think you misunderstood. Actually Rendell just said on MSNBC that Obama could win PA without Hillary on the ticket, but it would be much easier with her. And that he would strongly recommend her for the VP slot.

That VP slot is difficult. Look at her speech. What word is missing?

"Nominee".

If she couldn't congratulate Obama on his night, the night he won, I find it really difficult to think she could ever swing into the number two role.

OOOh, you have a GAY friend! You are SOOOO progressive!

Don't go off assuming ALL gay people are as gullible as your HRC supporting "gay" friend.  I was hoping she would concede but my $50 would have been with you.  

Can I call you my online "straight" friend?  

One more dig just for fun:  Is your "gay" friend anything like Steven Colbert's one "black" friend?   He makes me laugh.

Thank you for pointing out the Lieberman thing.  Every time I saw him, it was all I could think of.  I could never understand how he was a surrogate for Clinton, why she would choose him of all the people she could pick.

Ewwww....is it even legal to do that in public? ;)

except VP

Given the nature of the possessiveness she seems to have of her 'eighteen million votes' it sounds a bit like she wants them in the streets.  Maybe she took her own Zimbabwe analogy a bit too seriously.  She sounds like a third-party minority candidate trying to form a coalition government in a Westminster parliamentary nation, at best.

I'm glad she didn't concede tonight.... I hope she stays in till the convention but not for the reasons you think I have.

In a not too distant future, the republicans are going to take out their big guns on Obama. We know nothing about him, so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the rumors. Isn't it better to have Hillary in the wings in case he implodes instead of staying with a candidate who will lose us the elections once again?

If she wins the nomination in Denver, then I'll come out and vote for her otherwise will either vote Nader, if he's on the ballot, stay home or give a long look at what McCain promised regarding health insurance! Whomever gives me the most relief with my health insurance coverage will get my vote! Obama wants my vote but doesn't want me in his new shinning party!

and they will most certainly get addressed.  But the most pressing problem RIGHT NOW, BY FAR is Hillary not conceding.

Probably the biggest obstacle between Obama and the presidency the longer this thing goes.  

Actually, her not conceding is the problem. Sorry to hear that you fell off this tiny solar satellite we've been hanging out on nowdays.

Hillary should certainly continue to speak for her supporters, but WHAT DO THEY WANT?  Aside from a President Hillary rather than a President Barack, I mean.  Anybody is entitled to want anything, of course, but I would feel better if I knew what Hillary's supporters want that they don't believe Barack will deliver.  

The main thing that comes to my mind is a personal mandate on health care.  I happen to think that Hillary is right on that one:  "universal health care" is the flip side of the "universal health insurance" coin.  But is that what it really boils down to?

-- TP

I guess they can pile on Obama endorsements, but presumably they'll do that anyway. Huh. What could they possibly do to influence her?

Whether she releases them or not seems immaterial as they are perfectly able to release themselves...

OK, I also believe that the actions of Lanny Davis have made offering her the VP slot a non-starter.  But, maybe she wants a big say in his inner committee of who that VP nominee is going to be.  Maybe she wants to be a part of that to ensure that who ever he picks will push on health care.  

I don't have issue with her offering input on the choice, but it still has to be his choice.

yup, yup and no donation page or pitch on BHO's site, yup keep on telling yourself that...

hillary doesn't need anyone's money. she can pay off her own debt. i'm sure she and bill look at it as one of their best investments. this couple truly looks loves america and still has endless resources and energy to put towards their goals.

That's why I was upset that Barack got "bored with the primary".  To defeat the Clintons you must not give them any air whatsoever...  so, now, Barack, you have to deal with her... she's made herself relevant 'cos you let her!

What worries me is that she might have opened pandora's box.  The trump card she has is that she thinks she can squeeze concessions out of obama by being the only person who can bring her supporters back into the democratic fold.  My worry is that humpty-dumpty might not be so easy to put back together again.  

The campaign she decided to run was very divisive and encouraged animosity between the two dem candidates.  For some of the people who ate all that up, it might be very difficult for them to fall in line behind obama, even if hillary tries to wave her magic wand and say "oh, that obama guy i've been bashing for six months...he's actually a great guy.  you all have to vote for him."

she's going to have to eat some serious shit and campaign like crazy once she endorses him to make it seem genuine enough that people believe she's really rooting for him...

she congratulated Obama!

would you make Bill campaign manager.  That's the dumbest thing I ever heard and I really wouldn't trust him anymore to be President.  Bill has made more campaign mistakes this cycle than possibly anybody else in the history of primary campaigns (given that most people are one and done when it comes to campaign mistakes).

I'd still vote for obama but I'd be scared.  

but BC as campaign manager is really funny

oh oh, let me guess, Mark Penn is probably going to be his pollster too huh?

It is the way it works.  I just get the feeling that many here have never watched a convention, or paid attention to the workings of a nomination process before.

[reposted from another thread] Taking Hillary Clinton at her word that this is really about us and not her. One of the issues that she has been most passionate about and fought hardest for is healthcare. What if Obama agreed to champion her healthcare coverage plan? What if he offered her the the cabinet post of Health and Human Services? Healthcare could be hers; it could be her big legacy. I'm much more comfortable with this than VP and I think she would have much more impact under this scenario than as VP. Interested in what Hillary Clinton and Obama supporters think.

insurance went against the wishes of the general public, both reps or dems. The doctors are on board this time around because they are just as frustrated with the health insurance industry as is the population.

I've heard him in Houston and over and over again in interviews that he's not for mandated health insurance, therefore allowing the healthy to opt out and wouldn't "think about it until his second term and only after he sees if it worked for kids"

Waiting 4 years for him to make up his mind isn't acceptable for the majority of adults and for the close to 50 million people without insurance. He cannot afford to lose those 50 million people who, like me, will consider giving a hard look to McCain who is offering $5,000 compared to his paltry $2,500 and only if you jump through hoops or qualify. This is not acceptable for a democratic candidate!

I am not fooled by his sudden conversion - I don't believe him - he changes his tune as the wind blows. calling his plan universal health care is offensive to all of us who knows he will leave over 15 million out!

keep your fingers crossed...

After the whole Eliot Spitzer fiasco, would NY really be that safe?  Are there any known GOP candidates who could run on a campaign that was basically fought on local issues?

I mean, remember back in 1990 when Christie Todd Whitman almost beat Sen. Bradley because people were pissed at Gov. Florio.

Has Gov. Patterson helped people move on from Spitzer?  

Who fathoms the eternal sea, who talks of scheme and plan?

I love the way all these people want to decide what's best for Hillary. LOL.

her. We all heard his assessment and assassination of her character awhen asked about the possibility of her being chosen for VP!

That's the problem and probably why she is snubbing the party and good for her! It's a disgrace how the party kept silent during all the personal and sexist attacks that Dean finally addressed and condemned this week but he shouldn't have waited until the end of the primaries - it's too late. I hope she does what is good for herself and f#$% the party, has they did her!

Last Saturday was a disgraceful display for everyone in the country to see, of an unfair closed door brokered compromise resulting in disenfranchising voters for blatant favorism of one candidate, by overtly stealing her earned delegates to give to the party annointed one who had chosen to remove his name from the ballot.

By their reasoning, Clinton should win the electoral college for not being on the ballot!

He's going into the general election perceived as the illegitimate candidate - the whole country saw it - how is that going to help him?

she hasn't conceded yet.  all candidates hold on to their delegates but they concede

the highest popular vote count is not historic also? Now you know why Obama has trouble with women!

Her campaign is just as historic as Obama's and don't forget it - it's offensive to diminish her accomplishment in favor of your candidate!!

to suppress the voting in South Dakota - What does it say about your nominee, even though every news station in the country has been telling the voters that Obama had won, that she pulled another 14 point victory? and in Daschle's state, Obama's principal advisor of all people and who campaigned relentlessly for him in the state?

He's definitely not a shoo-in for November.... I'm glad she's contemplating staying in till Denver - we need her to step in when Obama implodes - too many rumors around to not take some seriously! Just saw a picture of Michele with Farrakhan today - good luck with the Jewish voters!

Let's see - he's having trouble with the blue collar white men, definitely huge problem with women, jewish people, hispanics, elderly = win for you?

That's a good point, but I don't think this is about gender.
John Edwards dropped out 4 months ago and had - what - 18 delegates. Yes, his endorsement was heavily courted but as time passed I think his endorsement became somewhat irrelevant as his supporters had moved on.
What makes what Hillary is going to do so big is because she has almost half of the total votes and a very loyal base of support. We are only 5 months away from the general election and most people would agree that every day that goes on from now on with McCain continuing to get a free pass while the media fixates on the Democratic race is bad for Democrats, period. If the roles were reversed, Obama would be under the same pressure to get behind Hillary and to not mess this up for the party. Again, this is not about gender...just about the situation that we find ourselves.