Newsweek Poll Has Obama up 15, Dem Party ID Up

The new numbers show more than the smaller upticks we've seen in other polls:

Barack finally has his bounce. For weeks many political experts and pollsters have been wondering why the race between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain had stayed so tight, even after the Illinois senator wrested the nomination from Hillary Clinton. With numbers consistently showing rock-bottom approval ratings for President Bush and a large majority of Americans unhappy with the country's direction, the opposing-party candidate should, in the normal course, have attracted more disaffected voters. Now it looks as if Obama is doing just that. A new NEWSWEEK Poll shows that he has a substantial double-digit lead, 51 percent to 36 percent, over McCain among registered voters nationwide.

In the previous NEWSWEEK Poll, completed in late May when Clinton was still fighting him hard for the Democratic nomination, Obama managed no better than a 46 percent tie with McCain. But as pollster Larry Hugick points out, that may have had a lot to do with all the mutual mudslinging going on between the two Democrats. By contrast, in recent weeks Clinton has not only endorsed Obama but has made plans to campaign with him. "They were in a pitched battle, and that's going to impact things. Now that we've gotten away from that period, this is the kind of bounce they've been talking about," said Hugick.
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Most other national polls have shown Obama with a 4 to 5 point lead over McCain so far. Random statistical error can explain some of the difference in poll results. The NEWSWEEK survey of 1,010 adults nationwide on June 18 and 19, 2008, has a margin of error of 4 points. But the latest evidence of his gaining ground goes well beyond that margin.

Just as significant is this news about party identification:

Obama's current lead also reflects the large party-identification advantage the Democrats now enjoy--55 percent of all voters call themselves Democrats or say they lean toward the party while just 36 percent call themselves Republicans or lean that way. Even as McCain seeks to gain voters by distancing himself from the unpopular Bush and emphasizing his maverick image, he is suffering from the GOP's poor reputation among many voters.

As Singer wrote earlier, many current electoral forecasts are ignoring a significant number of variables that could tip the scale towards Obama - and party ID is a big one.

There's a much larger shift going on than just topline numbers. First, Obama's campaign is specifically targeting and activating existing but historically under-performing Democratic demographics. Second, more and more people are self-identifying as Democrats generally - George Bush has wrecked the Republican brand, and John McCain has lost his record of independence from Bush. So Singer's 100% right - we need to be on the lookout for so-called "balanced" forecasts that only tell half-the story.

Update [2008-6-20 21:8:54 by Todd Beeton]:Hmm, funny thing:

Hardball yesterday: "if everything's aligned so perfectly for the Democrats this year, why isn't Barack Obama further ahead?"

Hardball today: "this Newsweek poll is clearly an outlier."

Just sayin'.

Tags: Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Election 08, John McCain (all tags)

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Re: Newsweek Poll Has

Looks great.

Let's not rush to the victory party though.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-20 03:50PM | 0 recs
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Amen. I actually don't mind being close this early or even behind. It makes us hungrier and work harder. I really hope we do not get arrogant and underestimate all of the forces we are up against to get BHO elected.

by Hollede 2008-06-20 05:46PM | 0 recs
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Here's what statistician Nate Silver had to say about this poll:

"Newsweek's poll is the attention-getter, showing Barack Obama leading John McCain by 15 points. Is Barack Obama actually ahead by 15 points? Of course not. Newsweek's data tends to be fairly volatile, and we have a whole bunch of polling on both the state and national level that implies that Obama's real margin is closer to 5 points. Nevertheless, he has broken through a barrier of sorts. The last instance I can identify when a Democrat held a 15-point lead over a Republican nominee in any individual November trial heat poll is from November, 1996, when CBS News gave Bill Clinton an 18-point lead over Bob Dole on the eve of the election."

I should point out that a +5 popular vote margin translates to about 390 electoral college votes. If this lead holds up through the election it will be  a lot closer to Clinton 1996, (actually a bit better) than Bush 2004.

It's difficult to see how Republicans can duplicate Bush's almost 11 million new voters turnout between 2000 and 2004. Democratic turnout improved by around 7 million so Bush won by around 3 million votes.

This year Republican turnout won't match 2004 and Democratic turnout even bigger than in 2004. That turns this election into a rout if it continues into November.

But, if McCain pulls within 1 or 2 points in late October (a possibility) then this election will resemble 2000 or 2004 and be another nail-biter.

by Cugel 2008-06-20 07:25PM | 0 recs
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Survey USA confirms the Newsweek poll.

The lastest Survey USA poll now has Obama up 53% to 41%.

Kaboom.

by nocore 2008-06-20 08:18PM | 0 recs
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Um, I think that poll is only for California.

SUSA just released their CA poll...

by bosdcla14 2008-06-20 09:23PM | 0 recs
People who have moved recently have to register

to vote in the Presidential election..

that may have something to do with it.

I don't think Obama (or Hillary, or McCain) is the primary driver.

by architek 2008-06-21 07:28AM | 0 recs
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I think that is California, not nationally.

btw, I'll eat my shirt if Obama only wins California by 12%.  He's headed for a 60-40 win easy.

by Skaje 2008-06-20 09:24PM | 0 recs
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it's a shame SUSA doesn't do national polling.

by really not a troll 2008-06-21 04:57AM | 0 recs
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No one believes me when I say Obama wins in a landslide this year.

by agpc 2008-06-20 04:11PM | 0 recs
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I believe you!

by Politicalslave 2008-06-20 06:34PM | 0 recs
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I do to.  I think we need to find a happy medium between hoping for and believing that we can remake the electoral map while also remembering just how hard we will all have to work to make it happen.  

by oliver cromwell 2008-06-20 06:40PM | 0 recs
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No one believes you?

It's the common conventional wisdom.

Even if it's not a popular vote landslide; he wins very comfortable electorally.

by nocore 2008-06-20 08:19PM | 0 recs
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I live in Texas, ground zero for the Bush movement.  Trust me when I say that no one here believes Obama wins in a landslide.  However, my grandmother who is somewhat racist and has never voted for a Democrat in her life is going to vote for Obama.  

That pretty much tells you everything you need to know re: McCain's goose and its relative temperature.  Cooked.

by agpc 2008-06-20 08:52PM | 0 recs
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I want to believe...

by Skaje 2008-06-20 09:15PM | 0 recs
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It's too early to say that Obama would win in a landside, althrough he is definitly favored. I also think that we should wait to see if other polls show a bounce as big as Newsweek, otherwise this is just an outlier.

by Jaxx Raxor 2008-06-20 04:23PM | 0 recs
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I guess this just goes to show how much easier it is for African-Americans in this country.  Lucky Duckies.

by enozinho 2008-06-20 04:28PM | 0 recs
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Well, he lost me today -- not that it matters.

Obama has his millions in contributions from individual contributors -- today he went for money from business.

Never have I seen a politician stick it to his supporters so blatantly, and callously.  

Got hand it to him: he's got balls.  To every Democrat out there who hoped Obama meant change, he's given you the finger.  But is there anything you can do about it?

by PageUp 2008-06-20 04:44PM | 0 recs
thanks for your concern

Nice first comment.

by John DE 2008-06-20 04:47PM | 0 recs
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today he went for money from business.

Yeah, how did he do that exactly? Troll.

by animated 2008-06-20 04:54PM | 0 recs
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Yes, please tell us what he did.

by Hollede 2008-06-20 05:47PM | 0 recs
Take notice class

Here we have a classic example of an attempted false flag post that fails miserably.  It starts out well enough with a claim that the poster was an Obama supporter:

Well, he lost me today

But then the poster suffers the classic inability to self identify with the role he/she is playing.  The extreme distaste this person feels for all things 'liberal' causes a subconscious break from character.

To every Democrat out there who hoped Obama meant change, he's given you the finger.  But is there anything you can do about it?

Note the use of 'you' instead of the inclusive 'us' or 'we'.  This person was never a Dem, progressive, or Obama supporter.  The complete lack of previous posting history simply drives the point home.

Most false flag attempts will eventually unravel like this, though it usually takes more than a single post.  The smart ones will build up a bit of posting history, and build to their point gradually.  Eventually, though, they all break character.  It is unavoidable.  It is just too difficult for them to hide the disdain they feel for the people they are trying to immitate.

Just go read HillaryIs44 some time to see what I mean.  It has devolved completely into FreeRepublic with a pink coat of paint.  The disdain some of those so called 'Democrats' over there now have for all things Democratic makes their true allegiance quite clear.

Thats the end of this lesson.  Yes, this will be on the final exam.  ;)

by protothad 2008-06-20 05:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Take notice class

Heh. Very good analysis.

by Hollede 2008-06-20 06:19PM | 0 recs
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I doubt that you ever were for Obama. So I guess it's McCain for you? I was disappointed at first.
BUT He will use this money to WIN. We need that.
by Politicalslave 2008-06-20 06:37PM | 0 recs
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o'd for abusing site guidelines (which I can only assume "no false flagging")

by really not a troll 2008-06-21 04:59AM | 0 recs
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Until this year, a Democrat couldn't be elected to be the dog catcher in this Idaho town. Minutes ago, I read a local blog, and Obama is favored 65% in their informal poll.

The party ID thing is huge here; Idaho is completely Republican in state leadership and national offices, but Obama has pulled in thousands of folks who registered for the first time, and all of them registered as Democrats.

It might be close, but I'm convinced Obama will win Idaho this election. I just hope he pulls votes down-ticket as well.

by banjomike 2008-06-20 05:15PM | 0 recs
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I don't know about winning Idaho (god would that be embarrassing to Republicans) but I would be surprised if Obama loses by much more than 10%.  Just for comparison, Kerry and Gore both lost by 40%.

by Skaje 2008-06-20 09:18PM | 0 recs
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I'll always drink to embarrassing to Republicans ;)

twice when they do it to themselves LOL!

by zerosumgame 2008-06-20 09:47PM | 0 recs
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very good helicopter
by yu26313171 2008-06-20 05:52PM | 0 recs
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The polls tend to be a little behind the electorate. I think I'm kind of relieved. I just could not understand how the polls showed them so close. It just didn't make sense to me. Now will the rest of the poll validate this one?

by eddieb 2008-06-20 06:11PM | 0 recs
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Newsweek's polls, for whatever reason, have skewed Democratic for a number of years.   This is an outlier.

I think right now it's Obama by 2-5 nationally.

by InigoMontoya 2008-06-20 06:19PM | 0 recs
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>Newsweek's polls, for whatever reason, have skewed Democratic for a number of years.  

Historical evidence, please?

by JD Lasica 2008-06-20 10:05PM | 0 recs
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Track 'em down yourself.  It's a consistent trend that I've noticed.  They may be on or they may be off, and when they're off, it's consistently in the Democratic direction.  I think you'll find that Newsweek had the best polls for Kerry...didn't believe 'em then, don't believe 'em now.

by InigoMontoya 2008-06-20 10:12PM | 0 recs
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Oh and BTW do you somehow think that BHO is not a politicion or has not been a hypocrite or has not made a mistake or maybe known a few bad apples or ever fucked up? Because if you really think that, you are in for a very rude awakening. I am fairly certain that Barack Obama is not perfect. There I said it. Now flame away. Get it all out. Oh and Hillary is not perfect either. I think the exact same questions above could be asked about her and we would get much the same answers. Anybody pissed off at me?

In fact, us being Democrats; that is that we are liberal, progressive, conservatives, native, young, old, black, latino, white, women, men, rich, poor, middle class, educated by life, educated by schools, gay, lesbian, straight, christian, pagan, muslem, jewish, and all the other people that make up the Democratic Party. We are called the Big Tent Party for a reason. And in the past, our foes, mostly the Republicans, have used this against us rather effectively. We can be so damned disagreeable with each other, that sometimes you would think we hate each other. I ask now, how can we make this a strength? Because I do believe that Democrats could make our diversity a huge strength for our party and for our country. Unless we frack it up.

by Hollede 2008-06-20 06:16PM | 0 recs
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You are right he is a politician. I love our candidate and I want him to play hardball. I want to win. Then we can challenge him. I expect a lot from Obama.

by Politicalslave 2008-06-20 06:46PM | 0 recs
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They're all politicians. So what?

I'd rather have a politician who is pro-choice and anti-war as my president than one who is anti-choice and pro-war.

by politicsmatters 2008-06-20 07:00PM | 0 recs
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When have you ever believed that Obama is perfect? And why do you assume that his supporters see him as a God?

Change: bring more Americans into the process. Open up government so they 'see' what's going on and the interests 'see' them.  Interests begin to capitulate. Progressive policies-by virtue of there popularity-are enacted.  Change.

This is what our movement, and Obama, means by change.

Do you understand? If you are too cynical to believe this, fine.  But please stop distorting what we mean by change.

by ChangeMatters 2008-06-20 09:46PM | 0 recs
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CLINTON VOTERS MOVING TO OBAMA -- From the Newsweek poll:

Obama seems to have built his margin in part by picking up a key slice of Clinton's support, including women. Women voters in the new poll prefer him over McCain by 21 points (54 percent versus 33 percent). Defections to McCain by Hillary Clinton supporters are also down significantly since she dropped out of the race and endorsed the Obama. In the new poll, registered Democrats and Democratic leaners who supported Clinton during the primaries now favor Obama over McCain by 69 percent to 18 percent. In last month's survey, Clinton supporters backed the Illinois senator by a significantly smaller margin, 53 percent to 34 percent.

by politicsmatters 2008-06-20 06:26PM | 0 recs
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Oh yeah and we have to make BHO do what he needs to do just like any other politician. We must be able to question him, challenge him and encourage him to the best possible candidate and President. He cannot do it alone.

by Hollede 2008-06-20 06:29PM | 0 recs
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I like it.  Too early to mean much other than as a mile marker, but it's great news.

McCain had a terrible week, in a defensive crouch lashing out and trying desperately to keep that "Straight Talk" maverick bus on the road.

Obama's had a lousy week too, from the Jim Johnson debacle to FISA today, but it has not hurt his momentum at all.

Obama has to be the overwhelming favorite at this point:  In these early rounds, McCain has shown no ability or potential to even land a solid punch on him, never mind slow him down or take him down or knock him out.

by dembluestates 2008-06-20 07:00PM | 0 recs
Outlier

Gallup Obama +2
Rassmussen Obama +4
UsaToday Obama +6.

I am convinced that Newsweek is either biased or just crappy.  They were ALWAYS outliers during the Primaries- showing Obama significantly up even when every other poll showed a very tight race.  They are part of MSNBC- which IS Obama-central.  Just sayin.  Kinda like Fox News to McCain....

by easyE 2008-06-20 07:08PM | 0 recs
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See, I was with you, until you went from implying the poll was off (I agree) to saying that it was somehow biased.

Sorry, no.  Even if you take into account the full margin of error (which is plus or minus to each candidate's number, so if the MOE is 4 there's a potential swing of 8), only 95% of polls are accurate even in theory.  This is just one of the 5%, I think.

Take SUSA.  They recently did an Iowa poll, rather stupidly, and found Obama behind among African-Americans there but ahead overall.  Does that strike you as likely?  But its not bias, they just messed up.

by bosdcla14 2008-06-20 09:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Outlier???

I believe the Newsweek poll is conducted by the very same polling organization that the Pew Center for the People and the Press uses:  Princeton Research Associates.  That is a top notch organization.

Of course, it's always possible for a given survey to be an outlier for random reasons, or for some specific reason that we don't know (such as the presidential horserace questions being embedded in a different survey).

But I wouldn't knock the polling organization or Newsweek.

by Juris 2008-06-21 05:44AM | 0 recs
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I'm suspicious of that Newsweek poll result, precisely because the party ID distribution is so lopsided in favor of the Democrats.  Where are the "independents"? Were they screened out of the survey somehow? They should have been twice as large a proportion.

by Juris 2008-06-20 07:25PM | 0 recs
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Idaho is completely Republican in state leadership and national offices.

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video game.

by yu26313171 2008-06-20 07:27PM | 0 recs
If this is consistent and stays it,

thru next week, I'll put stock into it. But the real test is if it stays after the conventions and labor day. Also, gotta add in the Bradley effect, which will likely take a few points. However, good thing Obama's gonna raise a billion dollars this year to counter it.

by Lakrosse 2008-06-20 07:30PM | 0 recs
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"This Newsweek poll is clearly an outlier."

From the people who brought you "The economy is doing great!"

by nintendofanboy 2008-06-20 08:00PM | 0 recs
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Is it really surprising?  The economy is in shambles.  People are being driven into the ground by their employers.  The politics of fear can only go so far before people wake the fuck up and realize they have been hoodwinked.  

My friends, false prosperity doesn't pay the bills.  I truly believe Obama should press the theme of "United we stand, divided we fall" throughout this election cycle.  Unless there is a scandal, Obama wins.  Easily.

by agpc 2008-06-20 08:58PM | 0 recs
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Remember, everyone - we have a President who doesn't  have much to lose at this point and is ramping up for a "fight" with yet one more "Islamic Republic".

Im just saying, we're not finished.

We're still at war with two countries and Islam-fascism hasn't gone away.

We need to continue rallying and building our coalitions. We will win especially if Obama+co can have a stronger answer to the fear mongers regarding  our "War on Terror" barring any future major event.

Lets stay focused.

Wonderful to see the unity, lets not get ahead of ourselves, however.

by devoted1 2008-06-20 09:51PM | 0 recs
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Obama is the Trojan Horse.

A 'pad over' presaging a more progressive future.

First, we win Americans over by being competent.

Then, say by 2010, Obama turns up the progressive juice.

When the people know and trust you, one can be bold.

Trust Obama.  He knows what he's doing.

We are soon to have an Organizer as a President.

Think long and hard about that.  

by ChangeMatters 2008-06-20 09:51PM | 0 recs
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Obama is not only organizing. He has energized a generation to follow a message that we as Democrats have embraced. The message is that our country has fallen de-evolved massively in the last 8 years and our opportunity to "catch up" is to embrace a message of Hope with the "hope" that he has the cojones to "walk the walk".

So far so good....

Being President isn't about ONE person. We have to understand that it is an ENTIRE branch of the US government. Do I believe that Mr. Obama has the ability to steer it in a way consistent with our country's ideals?

When up against McCain.... hell to the YES!

by devoted1 2008-06-20 10:09PM | 0 recs
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We can be so damned disagreeable with each other, that sometimes you would think we hate each other. I ask now, how can we make this a strength? Because I do believe that Democrats could make our diversity a huge strength for our party and for our country. Unless we frack it up.

by blueskyadf 2008-06-20 10:28PM | 0 recs
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By uniting against a clear diversion from American principles.

Clear and plain.

The other side is waaaay worse - trust!

How's that economy/ cousin in Iraq/ 1st Amendment treating you??

by devoted1 2008-06-20 10:36PM | 0 recs
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"A new NEWSWEEK Poll shows that he has a substantial double-digit lead, 51 percent to 36 percent, over McCain among registered voters nationwide."
I agree.
by blueskyadf 2008-06-20 10:33PM | 0 recs
" Newsweek poll clearly an outlier."

Or is it a trend setter?

by Beren 2008-06-20 11:19PM | 0 recs
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I think a representative trend can be seen in the Newsweek poll.
  This reflects clearing the Clinton drama and voters digesting the weakness of McCain.  Many carried the image of him from 1999.  He is feeble and slow now and that cannot be overcome by rhetoric or policy.  He looks and is unfit for the presidency.
by moondancer 2008-06-21 03:58AM | 0 recs
New National Latino poll figures

I just posted a diary about them

I hope you don't mind my pimping here - but they tend to mesh with some of the figures in other polls:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/21/6455 5/3461

by NeciVelez 2008-06-21 04:43AM | 0 recs
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So what is the reason for the discrepancy? Is there a large difference in the demographic of those polled?  As much as I don't like Obama I also don't want another 4 GOP years - so while this poll would make me feel a bit better about the future I am doubtful as to its veracity.  My guess is something is skewed in the polled population.

by jrsygrl 2008-06-21 05:11AM | 0 recs
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Obama may have sunk the Dem party with his flip flop on public funding.  Repubs will come roaring back, because Americans are stoopit, and then it'll be a free-for-all for corporations and big donors, and Dems won't have a leg to stand on.

But Obama, who says it isn't about him, is all about him.

by Juno 2008-06-21 05:38AM | 0 recs
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Process issues like this never sway the electorate.  Running ads, campaigning, and so forth will.

Your pessimism is appreciated.  If you'd prefer, we can pretend that a few dozen posters agree with you here and that you're not really an outlier yourself.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-21 07:04AM | 0 recs
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You remind me of the Republicans who are attacking McClellan personally rather than addressing the issues he raises.

How ironic, esp. since Obama is supposedly inspiring people to change all that.

Guess not.

by Juno 2008-06-21 07:10AM | 0 recs
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try raising a legitimate issue and maybe you'd have a point there.

by falseintellect 2008-06-21 07:50AM | 0 recs
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Stoopit? Keep hoping. But I suggest you don't hold your breath.

by hankg 2008-06-21 07:17AM | 0 recs
I disagree

Most of the general public doesn't even understand the public funding debate - though discussed by pundits and bloggers, a lot of people will simply hear that Obama gets money from small donors - and they will see McCain tied to fat cats.  

by NeciVelez 2008-06-21 05:55AM | 0 recs
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It's possible this poll may be an outlier, but even if it is, I expect those numbers will close again after his sell out of Democrats and the country in general over FISA. In his first test of leadership, he has failed completely.

by Retired Catholic 2008-06-21 10:09AM | 0 recs
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Actually, I think We're all Democrats.......I haven't had a single discussion on this issue from anyone .....I'd be pleasantly suport  the man who is really democratics.

by analyfjks 2008-06-22 05:59PM | 0 recs
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Actually, I think We're all Democrats.......I haven't had a single discussion on this issue from anyone .....I'd be pleasantly suport  the man who is really democratics.

by analyfjks 2008-06-22 06:12PM | 0 recs

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