Obama North Carolina Speech Thread

by Jonathan Singer, Tue May 06, 2008 at 05:31:47 PM EDT

Consider this a thread on Barack Obama's speech following his North Carolina primary victory from Raleigh.

Update [2008-5-6 21:37:47 by Todd Beeton]:Again, Obama is taking on the unpatriotic BS head on.

I love this country too much to see it divided and distracted at this critical moment in history. I believe in our ability to perfect this nation because it's the only reason I'm standing here today. I know the promise of America because I've lived it...it is the light of opportunity that led my father across an ocean, it's the founding ideals that the flag draped over my father's coffin stand for. It's life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In this country justice can be won against the greatest odds...and when we are told that we can not bring about the change that we seek, we answer in one voice: Yes we can!

Nice.

Tags: Democratic primaries, North Carolina, North Carolina Primary (all tags)

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First thing

You guys need to consolidate yer threads. :P

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:13PM | 0 recs

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I know this is disappointing for Clinton supporters - I hope Obama supporters act disrespectfully.

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:13PM | 0 recs

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I won't count on it - but I thank you for your sentiment. :)

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:14PM | 0 recs

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At least you knew what I was getting at - that's a major typo.

If you see Obama supporters talking crap, let me know. My e-mail is posted - I'll straighten em up.

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:21PM | 0 recs

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That's funny because I didn't even catch your typo - I just understood what you meant lol.

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:38PM | 0 recs

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It's lkie wehn all wdros hvae smrlbead lttres, but you can slitl raed tehm.

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 09:35PM | 0 recs

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Is that a typo in your post? (/nt)

by MILiberal 2008-05-06 05:15PM | 0 recs

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Re: Is that a typo in your post? (/nt)

YES, that's a major typo. Whooops.

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:18PM | 0 recs

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Re: Is that a typo in your post? (/nt)

if you need help with any future typos, please don't hezitate to consult me.

by alex100 2008-05-06 05:24PM | 0 recs

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As an Obama supporter, I vote for RESPECTFUL.

by mijita 2008-05-06 05:18PM | 0 recs

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So do I - I missed the "don't"

I'm so sorry....

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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Obama is more than respectful.
I sure will be.

by snowbird42 2008-05-06 05:21PM | 0 recs

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podium seems too high

but he is such a bad a** it won't matter.

I want this man to be my president.

by Mojo Risen 2008-05-06 05:13PM | 0 recs

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Re: podium seems too high

I was thinking the same thing. The sign on podium is too high.

by recusancy 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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Re: podium seems too high

Either that or the camera is too low. What does it look like on other channels? I'm on CNN online.

by mijita 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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"Thank you for your support."

Love,
John McCain

by kellogg 2008-05-06 05:34PM | 0 recs

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Re: "Thank you for your support."

This is a changing night. I suggest you change your sig line. Time to focus on McCain.

And please try to be more polite to Clinton supporters or even McCain supporters. Let them lick their wounds. Piling on is anything but helpful.

by recusancy 2008-05-06 05:38PM | 0 recs

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Perhaps I shouldn't have piled on.

I'll be happy to change my sig line --

when Clinton stops threatening to throw down on the convention floor over primaries everybody, including Clinton, agreed would not count.

by kellogg 2008-05-06 05:41PM | 0 recs

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Shut up Kellog..are you a kid or what?

Grow up...this is not child play and this is not personal...it is pure business. So, shut the hell up and get in line and be respectful or leave the damn discussion because you stay you are going to create more drama than bring healing.

Grow up for god's sake.

by likelihood zero 2008-05-06 05:50PM | 0 recs

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"be respectful," you say.

In your comment in which you told me to "be respectful," you also called me a "kid" (I'm 43), told me to "shut up," and misspelled my name.

Just out of curiosity, I checked your recent comments and found that within the space of your last 10 comments, you have also called someone a "liar" (or perhaps someone who doesn't understand English) and called Markos an "idiot" (standard fare around here, I know, but still). All of those comments were posted today. Is your long-term history as rich with respectful behavior?

Thanks, but I think I'll take my lessons in being respectful elsewhere.

by kellogg 2008-05-06 06:09PM | 0 recs

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Well, i repeat it to you, if you haven't gotten

it yet....no gloating is no gloating. Be magnanimous is be magnanimous. The emotions of our brothers and sisters on the other side are too raw and we need their vote to win in November. If you don't get that, too tough.

Obviously, if you behave like a child even though you are 1000 years old, i will call you a kid. And your behavior earlier was childlike.

I stand by remark about Markos...he is an idiot and he belongs to another blog, not this one. You don't like it that i called Markos an idiot, well too bad. Go to the other blog.

I called that person a liar because he was lying about what Senator Obama said. His speech was respectful and he was distorting it. So he is either a liar or have English comprehension problems.

What else do you want to understand? Or do you want me to explain?

by likelihood zero 2008-05-06 06:17PM | 0 recs

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I haven't gloated at all.

My sig line doesn't gloat, and it's not related to these primaries. And I haven't gloated in any post you've responded to. So I'm at a loss as to what you're talking about.

As for whether Obama started his speech got a dig in a Hillary, I agree with you that he did not. But the poster was not "lying." When I heard the speech I thought, I bet someone is going to take that as a dig. And lo and behold, someone did. Point being: things are open to interpretation. I loved the speech, but people see things through their own lenses, and some are likely to take any reference to the opponent as a dig.

This is all getting too meta for me.

by kellogg 2008-05-06 06:28PM | 0 recs

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Re: Perhaps I shouldn't have piled on.

He's probably going to be ahead by enough that he'll be able to add MI and FL as is and still win.

So it will be a pointless argument pretty soon.

by recusancy 2008-05-06 05:55PM | 0 recs

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Re: Obama North Carolina Speech Thread

Barack opens with a shot at Clinton - not surprising.

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:14PM | 0 recs

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He did? I didn't see one.

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:22PM | 0 recs

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No, he didn't. He was very gracious and said that she was an excellent candidate. He also said it appears that she won IN, which is more than CNN and NBC have done.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-06 05:25PM | 0 recs

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He called her an extremely formidable candidate. HOW DARE HE!?

by Djo 2008-05-06 05:31PM | 0 recs

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Hey creep, was he lying?

by Djo 2008-05-06 05:37PM | 0 recs

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He called her an extremely formidable candidate. HOW DARE HE!?

Is this snark or is there some hidden linguistic put-down in "extremely formidable candidate"?

by obsessed 2008-05-06 05:37PM | 0 recs

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Eyes: you are a liar or you don't understand

English. He did not and you can go check the transcript.

by likelihood zero 2008-05-06 05:52PM | 0 recs

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I am an Obama supporter. But do ya think that was strategic showing just one black person behind Obama during his speech? I see a sea of white behind him. I am not complaining. Just an observation.

by Pravin 2008-05-06 05:14PM | 0 recs

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Yeah, it's called Oregon, West Virginia and Kentucky.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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He's been doing that for a while. He'll have a small white crowd in a sea of african americans and he'll position them in prime seats for the camera's.

It's not a great thing to do but, as they say, politics ain't beanbag.

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by kristoph 2008-05-06 05:17PM | 0 recs

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Yeah, remember Nimrod, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in the A&F gear from the Indiana rally? I guess you're right.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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LOL!

And I'm with you. I so hate the fakery.

by TrueBlueCT 2008-05-06 05:22PM | 0 recs

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Re: LOL!

When I saw him in my very white state, the crowd was very, very, very white.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-06 05:26PM | 0 recs

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Try finding a single black person in the pics from the small rallies Bill has been holding. There aren't any.

by jadegirl 2008-05-06 05:31PM | 0 recs

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Good eye.

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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Ha, well anything is better than those Ambercrombie kids

by reggie23 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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Ger used to that...remember the majority

of voters in this country are whites...and he has had problem with white blue collar voters....Usually nothing is done randomly during those speeches...they are pretty much well scripted.

by likelihood zero 2008-05-06 05:54PM | 0 recs

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Re: Ger used to that...remember the majority

Like I said, I wasn't judging anyone. It is just amusing whenever you see scripted moments. Coordinator A to Coordinator B: ""Pssst, get that old lady over here. Yeah, get a few more. Come on , let's get white ladies in that frame."

Hell, I would have done the same too.

by Pravin 2008-05-06 06:03PM | 0 recs

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Well, having been part of

a presidential campaign before in 1988 (a major senatorial one in 1990), the impression is that national or statewide campaign are just like a major Hollywood production or the staging of major Broadway production.

by likelihood zero 2008-05-06 06:09PM | 0 recs

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Big swing state

Barack reminds us that NC is a "big state". Lots of shots at Clinton remarks in this victory speech. Would like to see more of a high road approach?

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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Re: Big swing state

A big ole swing state. Apparently the arc is so huge that the other end of the see-saw is stuck in '64.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-06 05:17PM | 0 recs

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Re: Big swing state

He congratulated her on her win in IN. Most networks haven't even called it for her yet.

by recusancy 2008-05-06 05:17PM | 0 recs

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Re: Big swing state

Pretty sensitive, eh? That was some extremely mild dig.

by gert 2008-05-06 05:18PM | 0 recs

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Wow talk about sensitive. North Carolina is the 10th largest state, but he isn't allowed to point that out?

by agpc 2008-05-06 05:23PM | 0 recs

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Especially compared to the slime that Hillary throws at Obama every chance she can get...

by LordMike 2008-05-06 05:24PM | 0 recs

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His point was that this win counted for something, even in her framework. How is that a shot?

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:23PM | 0 recs

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Re: Big swing state

Would it be considered a dig if Hillary says that Indiana was a "tie breaker" just because he said it first?

Don't think so. Lets be a bit less sensitive.

Time to come together.

by astoria gooner 2008-05-06 05:24PM | 0 recs

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Rofl at "Big State", "Swing State."

Such a bad ass. Dude's brushing his shoulders off.

by Lord Hadrian 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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Math

Barack digs into math-based argument next.

by bobbank 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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Does anyone know

a site on the net where I can catch these speeches?

by Mr DC 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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Re: Does anyone know

streaming live here: http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/index.html

click on the video link

by recusancy 2008-05-06 05:18PM | 0 recs

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Much thanks!

by Mr DC 2008-05-06 05:21PM | 0 recs

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Grumbe grumble CNN hates linux grumble...

by jaiwithani 2008-05-06 05:23PM | 0 recs

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He did congratulate Clinton, even when Indiana is "too close to call"

by mecarr 2008-05-06 05:16PM | 0 recs

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he started walking to the podium after CBS called it for Clinton and before it was too close to call

by astoria gooner 2008-05-06 05:18PM | 0 recs

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Not exactly true (not that it matters)

by chrispy 2008-05-06 05:35PM | 0 recs

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How so? (Not that it matters)

by astoria gooner 2008-05-06 05:39PM | 0 recs

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He called North Carolina a swing state.

That makes me very happy. It's going to be a 50 state campaign.

by Fitzy 2008-05-06 05:17PM | 0 recs

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I think it really has to be. I think there is a good chance he'll lose the traditional battleground states (like FL, PA and OH) so his best strategy is to sweep the western states and states like NC (although, frankly, I can't imagine he'll win in NC, given his 20+ point loss among white voters).

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by kristoph 2008-05-06 05:20PM | 0 recs

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no way a Dem loses Ohio

by highgrade 2008-05-06 05:35PM | 0 recs

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Re: no way a Dem loses Ohio

no way a Dem loses Ohio

I hope you're right, but why do you say that? Democrats haven't won Ohio for a while and with those voting machines, they'd have to win it substantially.

by obsessed 2008-05-06 05:41PM | 0 recs

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it's over

Hillary will soldier on to June 3, but it's essentially over. Has Obama got the mojo back?

I don't know. He has put Rev. Wright in a box and send him in orbit. But his message seems to have sharpened in the last few days.

Now to those pesky tracking polls...

by mikelow1885 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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Re: it's over

If you look ar the county of Eckhardt in IN. He just won it.
On Saturday he deployed his new 'family man' appraoch there.
He had a townhall picnic after. The smaller scale strategy is better for him.

by MissVA 2008-05-06 05:22PM | 0 recs

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Go Obama! What a great night! I really hope I get a chance to hear him speak in South Dakota.

by bittermom 2008-05-06 05:19PM | 0 recs

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He's right! It's not about Hillary, it's not about Obama, it's about all of us, working together!

by LordMike 2008-05-06 05:20PM | 0 recs

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This sounds like his "I won the nomination" speech! Rock on, Obama!.

by agpc 2008-05-06 05:21PM | 0 recs

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Obama is coming out of tonight +300,000 votes

North Carolina killed the Clinton popular vote argument.

Expect the super delegate flood gates to open.

by johnnyappleseed 2008-05-06 05:22PM | 0 recs

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Re: Obama is coming out of tonight +300,000 votes

We'll see - I do predict a shift, since the coming contests favor her.

by Falsehood 2008-05-06 05:24PM | 0 recs

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Re: Obama is coming out of tonight +300,000 votes

She'll win WV, KY, and PR. He'll win OR, SD, MT.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-06 05:27PM | 0 recs

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Re: Obama is coming out of tonight +300,000 votes

She wins WV easy - but WV is what a third of the size of NC? She could net a hundred thousand votes there - maybe.

Then Oregon and Kentucky cancel each other out. The popular vote argument ends if Obama wins NC by 20%.

by johnnyappleseed 2008-05-06 05:28PM | 0 recs

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his teleprompter

Hiccuped. It's like "Anchorman." Maybe I can hack in there and make him say, "I go pee pee now."

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-06 05:24PM | 0 recs

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Re: his teleprompter

mojo'd for injection of a Ron Burgandy joke. Well played sir.

by RockvilleLiberal2 2008-05-06 05:32PM | 0 recs

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Re: his teleprompter

Maybe he could threaten to obliterate something?

by Lettuce 2008-05-06 05:35PM | 0 recs

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Oil

He flubbed the line a little bit, but I like it and I hope we hear it more-- we need a "permanent holiday" from our addiction to oil.

Yes.

by Fitzy 2008-05-06 05:24PM | 0 recs

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Another of the great, forward thinking, speeches we've come to expect from Obama.

by Kobi 2008-05-06 05:31PM | 0 recs

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Clinton's lead in Indiana is now 4%

Obama could knock her out tonight if he gets the big plurality in Gary.

by johnnyappleseed 2008-05-06 05:31PM | 0 recs

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Does all this mean we can temper the SUSA Poll love and cut Zogby a little slack? He's closer than most tonight... and may be quite vindicated when its all done.

by Lettuce 2008-05-06 05:32PM | 0 recs

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Or maybe remember that almost all the polls have been wrong all the time. I have to wonder how many people get fed us with polling calls and just answer the question the opposite of how they feel just to make the pollsters look like schmucks...I have, twice.

by RockvilleLiberal2 2008-05-06 05:34PM | 0 recs

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Hey, no hating on the pollsters! The final polling averages from NC (and ARG in particular) had Obama up 50-42 (obviously with some undecided not factored in). Let's see what the final is before claiming the pollsters haven't done well.

by Mr DC 2008-05-06 05:47PM | 0 recs

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Clinton is now up only by +4 - with 73% reporting, but not Gary yet.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-06 05:35PM | 0 recs

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All politics and policy aside, he is a DAMN good speaker.

by Mokumi 2008-05-06 05:35PM | 0 recs

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12,000 for "no preference"

John Edwards votes in NC?

In the county right over the mountain from mine - Swain County - 70% for Clinton. Oh well. Not many voters over there in Fontana. Buncombe and Watauga kept Western NC down a bit.

by elrod 2008-05-06 05:40PM | 0 recs

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Good speech...and this is a warning to all

Supporters of Senator Obama: Show class and be good winners. No gloating and snooty remarks to our friends supporters of Senator Clinton.

Emotions are raw so be magnanimous please.

And remember: no victory in November if we are not united. So be and act like adults.

by likelihood zero 2008-05-06 05:40PM | 0 recs

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Re: Good speech...and this is a warning to all

Here! Here!

by chrispy 2008-05-06 05:42PM | 0 recs

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i am hillary supporter

but i love his speach

i like it when he gives the unity message
i think thats what was missing in past few days because of crazy wright

well anyway ,,,congrats to mr obama,,,,,

and to senator clinton if she wins indiana

by hillaryfighter 2008-05-06 05:40PM | 0 recs

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Nice post - mojo'd

How is it that you can keep your head when everyone else, myself included, is going berserk?

by obsessed 2008-05-06 05:44PM | 0 recs

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Re: Nice post - mojo'd

How is it that you can keep your head when everyone else, myself included, is going berserk?
what does berserk???mean ,

really i don,t know

by hillaryfighter 2008-05-06 05:54PM | 0 recs

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The USA has had some leaders with values similar to Obama's.
Those leaders made a difference in this country-Roosevelt, Kennedy, King and etc.

by walletyyt 2008-05-06 05:52PM | 0 recs