NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

NBC News calls the Oregon primary for Barack Obama.

Tags: Democratic primaries, Oregon, Oregon Primary (all tags)

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Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

Didn't waste any time - did they?

by alegre 2008-05-20 07:01PM | 0 recs
They're the first to call it for anyone

Except the Indiana primary, which they held off on and CBS called first for a change.

They called Kentucky 3 seconds after polls closed, before CNN.

by Lord Hadrian 2008-05-20 07:02PM | 0 recs
So, Alegre

Can we take that as your congratulations to Senator Obama for his primary win in Oregon?

by toyomama 2008-05-20 07:25PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

They called KY for Clinton immediately after the polls closed as well, even though initially it was showing about a 2-4 point lead.

Misogynist bastards.

by Tommy Flanagan 2008-05-20 08:19PM | 0 recs
Congratulations Senator Obama!

LETS GO DUCKS, LETS GO DUCKS, LETS GO DUCKS!

by Lord Hadrian 2008-05-20 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

OBAMARAMA

by Lawyerish 2008-05-20 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

Let's hear it for the hard-working white people of Oregon.

by KTinOhio 2008-05-20 07:02PM | 0 recs
Are they really white?

Sure they don't have arugula in their bellies?

by Lord Hadrian 2008-05-20 07:03PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

I see white people.

by DPW 2008-05-20 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

Is this where the surprise ending of the election is that John McCain has actually been dead since 1994 and no one could tell the difference?

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:26PM | 0 recs
Definitely the comment of the night.

Perfect set up and perfect hit.

by Lord Hadrian 2008-05-20 10:24PM | 0 recs
Inconceivable!

But, but, but....Oregon is full of working-class white people!  

What's going on?!

by thewittyname 2008-05-20 07:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Inconceivable!

unnecessary sarcasm

by Ignored and Disgusted 2008-05-20 07:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Inconceivable!

The only thing unnecessary is the Clinton campaign's BS spin about Obama's performance among whites.

by thewittyname 2008-05-20 07:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Inconceivable!

On the contrary, it's appropriate because it's humorous, informative, and most of all accurate.

White people, old women, young people of every description are voting for Obama in the primary and will do so in even larger numbers once he is allowed to campaign without unnecessary distraction. I say this with the full knowledge that my blunt honesty may cost him a few votes due to the hypersensitivity of a minuscule number of people who read my comment and decide to use their vote to punish me rather than vote for the candidate who best represents their interests. The blame for that action will rest squarely with the voter.

by xdem 2008-05-20 07:13PM | 0 recs
How was the OR exit poll conducted?

Balloting is only through mail-in vote

by MILiberal 2008-05-20 07:03PM | 0 recs
Re: How was the OR exit poll conducted?

Phone-based polling of those who had already voted.

by DPW 2008-05-20 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

So if it is a 40,000 difference at 10%...does that point to an over 300,000 vote pick-up in Oregon...More than the 250,000 in Kentucky.

by cardboard 1 2008-05-20 07:09PM | 0 recs
Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA*    

17,228,607 47.4% (O)

17,394,726 47.8% (C)  

Clinton +166,119 +0.46%

When Oregon is added in, this number may drop to a 60,000 popular vote lead.

Delegates do nominate, but the supers should acknolwedge the "fuzzy math" (sorry, guys) nature of delegate apportionment in congressional and state Senate districts.

Supers pay attention.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-20 07:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

Oh, they will, indeed. Please keep making this claim to them. I implore you.

by ragekage 2008-05-20 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

I can't believe I share a Party with such sarcastic people.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-20 07:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

I'm not being sarcastic in the least, I'm completely serious.

by ragekage 2008-05-20 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

I can't believe I share a party with any people!

YEEEEAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

Hey, it's my party. And I'll lie if I want to.

Oh my God, I've got to run to another forum and use that RIGHT NOW.

by ragekage 2008-05-20 07:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

Oi, ain't someone going to find me a statistician who says it's remotely valid math to add caucuses to open primaries to closed primaries in a non-homogeneous election?

This is basic math. The "popular vote" cannot be measured from that unrelated hodgepodge of numbers.

Unless you want to explain why that kind of math is ok?

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

I understand that math better than delegate apportionment.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-20 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

We're all very appreciative of your unbiased look at that issue.

by ragekage 2008-05-20 07:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

YOu're missing the 500,000+ "popular vote caucus conversion points" to add to Obama's total to be able to reasonably add caucuses to raw (not converted into seated delegates as the rules require) vote tally.

And the -500,000 "popular vote open primary conversion points" required to not piss off small states with caucuses.

But hey, it's not the world series or anything important where the rubric established for deciding a winner actually matter, it's just democracy, everyone gets their own metric! YEA~!

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

ANd then I'm taking my mathematics to Puerto Rico and the superdelegates and the convention and then I'm taking it all the way to the white house!

YEEEEAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH!

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

I don't know what you're talking about.

Let me make this easy: I get my numbers from Real Clear Politics. I trust them. I don't know where you're getting your information from.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-20 07:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included

It's snark, but I mean it. No one has been able to explain for me yet why they use this "popular vote" metric when it's just basic math that you can't do it. You need a common denominator to add these figures. Think of it as exchanging currency. You don't exchange dollars for Euros straight up do you?

The only reason I've heard to justify it is: "but the "currency" set up to measure the "will of the people" must be wrong."

That doesn't make a different non-sense metric that the current election was never intended to assess acurately any more valid.

See my diary on it here if you like.

http://www.mydd.com/user/luckymortal

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:33PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

A big Yeeeaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh!!! for Obama!

ANd congratulations for anyone who was a workin and a callin there on both sides (I had to sit this one out.)

I can't wait to hear the Dem turn out numbers....

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

Ok, I'm done now.

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary
Baby we were born to ADD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxNf2uCxd 3E
by nogo postal 2008-05-20 08:05PM | 0 recs
Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

I love this video!  I haven't seen it for about ten years, back when my son was still watching Sesame Street.

by KTinOhio 2008-05-20 08:13PM | 0 recs

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