Edwards to Endorse Obama

CNN confirms. Will likely be around 6:15-6:30ET tonight in Michigan.

Update [2008-5-14 18:4:24 by Josh Orton]: Looks like CNN will stream the endorsement rally here. Should start around 15 minutes from now. I'm told Edwards' plane just landed.

Update [2008-5-14 18:30:56 by Josh Orton]:Michigan Messenger is liveblogging the rally from the press area there.

Update [2008-5-14 18:38:41 by Todd Beeton]:Will be interesting to see how and whether John Edwards addresses the issue of his delegates. Will he ask them to support Barack Obama and will that then compel the Obama campaign to shift them to his column? Right now, without MI & FL, Edwards has 19 pledged delegates. That number goes up to 32 if MI & FL are fully seated. On CNN Jeffrey Toobin just suggested Edwards's delegates will put Obama within 100 votes of the nomination. Bill Schneider countered with confirmation that "they can vote any way they want. We're not going to put them in the Obama column right now, we'll call them first..."

Tags: Barack Obama, John Edwards (all tags)

Comments

217 Comments

Edwards for Veep!

by dystopianfuturetoday 2008-05-14 01:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards for Veep!

That would be my guess.

Good for Obama.

by souvarine 2008-05-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards for Veep!

I don't think so
Attorny general maybe...or what about a Supreme Court Justice?

Wow
what if Obama put Hillary and Edwards on the same court.
I know it won't happen.  But I would love it!

by gil44 2008-05-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards for Veep!

Yes, he's voiced interest in AG slot. I don't think he'll be the VP

by obscurant 2008-05-14 02:17PM | 0 recs
Neither has the chops

Neither has any constitutional law expertise, neither has been a judge.

by PantsB 2008-05-14 02:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Neither has the chops

You don't need to have been a judge to be a great Supreme Court justice.  Historically political figures have made it on there and some have done well.  It's a good idea to have a justice or two who actually understand the political and legislative process from first-hand experience.

Chief Justice Warren comes to mind, but there are others.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Neither has the chops

You don't need to have been a judge to be a great Supreme Court justice.  Historically political figures have made it on there and some have done well.  It's a good idea to have a justice or two who actually understand the political and legislative process from first-hand experience.

Chief Justice Warren comes to mind, but there are others.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards for Veep!

Really doubt Obama chooses the same guy who was VP nominee four years ago.

by snaktime 2008-05-14 01:27PM | 0 recs
a VP who is proven Appalachian

vote getter....

John Murtha
Jay Rockefeller
James Webb
John Edwards
Robert Byrd

by Carl Nyberg 2008-05-14 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: a VP who is proven Appalachian

John Murtha- no
Jay Rockefeller - no
James Webb - would be great if he would accept
John Edwards - no, already failed to do anything in 04
Robert Byrd - way way too old, has old dirt

Webb is on everyone's short list because of Virginia (WV is probably a lost cause) and because he reinforces his strengths (Iraq War opposition from the start, outsider/new politics) and gives foreign policy support and would reassure some rural whites.  

by PantsB 2008-05-14 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: a VP who is proven Appalachian

YES to Jim Webb. Would be a great VP, perfect attack dog for McCain. Would definately make VA even more in play as well.

by politicalfan 2008-05-14 03:51PM | 0 recs
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Well that's that.  Congratulations, Sen. Obama.  Hopefully Edwards got Obama to adopt Hillary's healthcare plan as part of the deal.

by jarhead5536 2008-05-14 01:22PM | 0 recs
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Er, how about Edwards' health care plan, her plan was the primary reason I was against her....

by luckymortal 2008-05-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
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Then why did Elizabeth prefer Hillary's plan?  John/Hillary was about the same, Hillary's just has a couple of additional steps on the path.

by jarhead5536 2008-05-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama
We talk universal health care in the liberal blogosphere as it is a done deal come 2009.  In fact - none of their plans will pass filibuster-muster with 'MANDATES' as part of the equation.  Though I am in the minority, the non-mandated portion of Obama's plan is attractive to moderate REPUBS, and will help a Susan Collins or Arlen Specter with cover in their districts.  
Her plan is the most liberal, but the least malleable to Congressional politics.
by stryan 2008-05-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
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Hence Hillary's more circuitous path.  She wants to take the time to build a political coalition, and wean the healthcare industry off all the money its choking on.  The political will to eliminate the insurance industry with the stroke of a pen does not yet exist, nor will it anytime soon.

by jarhead5536 2008-05-14 01:40PM | 0 recs
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... nor will it ever ...

by stryan 2008-05-14 05:56PM | 0 recs
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When did Elizabeth say she preferred HRC's plan?

I hope you're not refering to the debunked article from New York Magazine.

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:34PM | 0 recs
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I saw her say that live, on TV.  She does prefer Senator Clinton's health care plan.  I don't, personally, but I don't mind disagreeing with her.

Not a big deal.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:26PM | 0 recs
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I want to rec that comment ONE HUNDRED TIMES!!!!  Edwards would NOT endorse Obama without it.  I'll be praying over here...

by searchforsolidarity 2008-05-14 01:35PM | 0 recs
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that's the final nails in her coffin. Most to all of his pledged delegates will transfer to her.

call her well done at this juncture. thank-goodness.

by alex100 2008-05-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
err

haha. transfer to HIM. not her.

by alex100 2008-05-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: err

No, you were right the first time.

Dr. Freud, help him.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-14 01:27PM | 0 recs
Re: err

could be a prophetic slip-up

by moevaughn 2008-05-14 01:28PM | 0 recs
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lol  We've heard this tired refrain since Iowa.

by Caldonia 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
So, I take it 2210

is when you expect her to become president.

by bookish 2008-05-14 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: So, I take it 2210

I am sorry . . . but I had to say that I really did LOL when I read your comment.

by Veteran75 2008-05-14 02:34PM | 0 recs
Re: So, I take it 2210

hahaha

by politicalfan 2008-05-14 03:58PM | 0 recs
what does happen to Edwards' delegates

now?

Are they released to support any candidate?

Can he deliver his pledged delegates this way?

by Carl Nyberg 2008-05-14 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: what does happen to Edwards' delegates

I think he can "direct" them, but as Hillary has tirelessly reminded us, delegates technically can do whatever they want.

On MSNBC right now, they're discussing exactly that, specifically the 18 from (lol) Florida.  It would be funny if they sat all the FL and MI delegates and that actually put Obama over the top!

by torrentprime 2008-05-14 02:22PM | 0 recs
OK, I'm totally wrong
According to politico:
Pledged delegates aren't bound to their vote, so they can now switch to Obama -- as they will likely do, at Edwards' urging. But there's also nothing keeping them from choosing Clinton. As of now, their situation is analogous to that of superdelegates.
by torrentprime 2008-05-14 02:49PM | 0 recs
Many of Edwards' delegates...

... have already committed, most of them (iirc) to Obama.

by Hudson 2008-05-14 05:05PM | 0 recs
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eh, maybe if Edwards endorsed sooner, but now its just looks like he is going with the winner.

but I mean I guess everyone eventually needs to jump on the bandwagon, and Edwards himself doesn't think his endorsement isn't important.

by TruthMatters 2008-05-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
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he does have 18 pledged delegates. this isn't just kind words that mean little.

Edwards has political might.

by alex100 2008-05-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
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Edwards won one election with a bare plurality of the vote.

Mighty?

No.

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-14 01:25PM | 0 recs
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What's mightier, The 18 delegates Edwards brings with him, or the handful that Clinton has won in the past month?

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:38PM | 0 recs
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But he has 18 delegates that he can release to vote for Obama.  6 more than the net gain for HRC yesterday.

Master Stroke, with one endorsement the news cycle is changed and we are within 121 of the nomination.

Edwards for AG-Kick ass and take names

by xenontab 2008-05-14 01:38PM | 0 recs
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I do think the timing was good because it changes the narrative but the endorsement itself isn't that big of a deal.  
Sec of Labor with an enhanced portfolio (say enforcement of new pension regulations?) sounds better to me but thats just me.  On the other hand I can't think of an equal candidate right now (Fitzgerald?)
by PantsB 2008-05-14 02:33PM | 0 recs
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It's still over, Jack. Just more over

by Darknesse 2008-05-14 01:27PM | 0 recs
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18 dels equal to almost 4 WV!

by comingawakening 2008-05-14 01:43PM | 0 recs
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Plus his Florida delegates should they be seated.  Combined they almost negate Clinton's net gain in Florida.  It's over, even seating them according to the January results won't change the outcome.

by Skaje 2008-05-14 01:54PM | 0 recs
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I think Edwards was genuinely dismayed at Hillary's comments about "hard working white voters".  I think that's when he turned.  

He will definitely help in Kentucky.

by LordMike 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
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I was thinking the same thing.  The first thing you've got to wonder is "okay, when did Edwards make the decision?"  Because any fool who sees how Obama operates knows that the campaign would tell him to hold off on his endorsement until the morning after West Virginia.

by Jordache 2008-05-14 02:03PM | 0 recs
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Come together, right now.  It's going to be a summer of love as we unite to beat McSame!

by howardpark 2008-05-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
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Obviously, as a former Edwards supporter and currently an HRC supporter, I'm a little disappointed, but I'm not surprised.

Edwards is an opportunist.  Now is the opportune time to endorse Obama.  I'm over it.

by hornplayer 2008-05-14 01:23PM | 0 recs
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Sour grapes.

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:25PM | 0 recs
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Honest assessment.  If you think I don't like John Edwards, or that there's a reason he didn't endorse until this last minute, you'd be wrong.

And I don't understand why Obama supporters get such gratification from this BS sniping at fellow Democrats.  It's sickening.

by hornplayer 2008-05-14 01:27PM | 0 recs
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BS sniping? I'm not the one calling Edwards an opportunist.

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
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It's not a flaw.  I knew John Edwards was an opportunist when I supported him in the '04 primary.  I knew he was an opportunist when he took the VP for John Kerry, whom he didn't get along with well.  It's the nature of any politician, and not a slur.

by hornplayer 2008-05-14 01:34PM | 0 recs
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an opportunist definitely has a negative connotation thereby categorizing it as a "snipe at a fellow dem".

Otherwise, why did you say it?

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:37PM | 0 recs
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I'm not going to argue with someone who is putting words in my mouth to directly contradict what I just said, thanks.

by hornplayer 2008-05-14 01:40PM | 0 recs
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Did you call him an opportunist or not?

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:45PM | 0 recs
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btw I wasn't quoting you, I was putting a phrase in quotes.

If i quote you I will out it in blockquotes.

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:47PM | 0 recs
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Look, I believe you that you didn't mean it as a negative, but that word absolutely is a negative in common parlance.

You can't get mad at him for taking what you said that way, given the context and the verbage.

No big deal, but he wasn't out of line.  Neither are your views - they were just inartfully expresses is all.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:31PM | 0 recs
"Opportunist" is most certainly

a pejorative.

by bookish 2008-05-14 02:12PM | 0 recs
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why do dems have to put each other down all the time?  

Edwards had his heart and soul working for us.  He lost. He was/is a great candidate and a wonderful man.  He and his wife are tops.  

by searchforsolidarity 2008-05-14 01:37PM | 0 recs
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Ouch. That's a little unfair to Edwards and Obama.... But I totally get it. I would have been just as upset if HRC was the nominee.

by luckymortal 2008-05-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
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I'm not trying to put anyone down here.  The clock's run out, and although Hillary has done pretty much as well as could have possibly been expected these last few months, it's not enough to overcome the swoon-effect this nation had for Barack Obama in February/March (barring unforeseen occurrences).  Things have changed since then, but the Democratic Party apparently lacks the mechanisms to correct this error, and has effectively tossed the candidate with the better chance to win in November to the side.

Edwards' endorsement at this point is meaningful far more as a way for him to help bring this process to a close and get on the Obama bandwagon at the last minute than it is any kind of statement about how John Edwards feels about the candidate.  I don't think that's sour grapes, I think it's looking at the situation, but I guess I'm incapable of having a legitimate perspective since I'm an HRC supporter...oh well.

by hornplayer 2008-05-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
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"apparently lacks the mechanisms to correct this error"

All due respect, but having voters prefer his message and his candidacy isn't an error on his part or their part.  It only becomes an error if we make two, as of yet, untestable assumptions:

1.  He will lose.
2.  She would win.

Neither is knowable or known at this point.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:32PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, this is me too.  I like Edwards but I think his endorsement is pretty late in the game, and frankly now it looks like they are all working to shove her out before it is over.  If he is Obama's running mate it would really change my opinion of him in general.

by JustJennifer 2008-05-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
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You can(t have it both ways! If he endorsed Obama
earlier you would be saying what's the hurry?
by Politicalslave 2008-05-14 02:00PM | 0 recs
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If Edwards was such an opportunist, he would have endorsed Obama long ago.  It's not like we're only figuring out today who the nominee is going to be.  We've known for over a long time.

by Jordache 2008-05-14 02:20PM | 0 recs
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So full of crap!

If Edwards would have endorsed Obama earlier, you would have bitched about how he should have stayed out of it and should not have reduced Clinton's chances in the primaries.  

He stayed out of until Clinton had ZERO chance of winning, and now you call him an opportunist!

by rf7777 2008-05-14 02:34PM | 0 recs
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If you thought Edwards would endorse Clinton you didn't understand Edwards.

by heresjohnny 2008-05-14 04:47PM | 0 recs
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Nice. I wonder if the "great" Edwards will now be seen as a Judas by the Hillary supporters on this blog.

Jim Webb V.P.!!!

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
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No.  I have always and will always be a John Edwards fan, I just didn't see how he could win so I went with Hillary.  Obama is going to be the nominee, and Edwards' signature issue, healthcare, needs to have the nominee's undivided attention.  If he was really trying to help Obama, he would have done this in March.  

by jarhead5536 2008-05-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
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I disagree.  Edwards did not endorse until unity was required.  This goes for all the supers that you have seen unifying behind our nominee.

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:36PM | 0 recs
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He did it the day after West Virginia, as one HELL of a way to break the narrative, such as it was, about Obama's loss.

He did him a favor by waiting for the precisely correct moment.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:34PM | 0 recs
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Why?  He's a moderate-conservative, part of the Southern/Midwestern Democratic establishment, and Left (rather than liberal).  He's in the half of the Party that is politically further to the Right.

That's the epitome of Obama support blocs, backroom helpers, and establishments.

by killjoy 2008-05-14 02:10PM | 0 recs
I wonder what the 7% in WV think

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-14 01:24PM | 0 recs
What will you think...

...when Hillary endorses Obama in June?

by JoeCoaster 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: What will you think...

I will think, "By Jove, he does make an excellent VP nominee, my dear Hillary!"

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-14 01:31PM | 0 recs
Re: What will you think...

He can't be making an excellent VP if he's not making an excellent president. You can't have it both ways.

by Aris Katsaris 2008-05-14 01:47PM | 0 recs
Dislike the attitude, but mojoed...

b/c it's just too funny.

by nklein 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: What will you think...

And then the nice man in white will bring you your meds.

by Capt America 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Great news along with Hillary's comments. With this party unified behind Obama, McCain is toast in November. He's hit his support ceiling already with no one campaigning against him. The Republican brand is toxic even in the deep South.

Good times are ahead!

by Reeves 2008-05-14 01:25PM | 0 recs
DREAM TEAM





















by Al Rodgers 2008-05-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: DREAM TEAM

WOW, those pics make me think of John and Bobby Kennedy for some reason....NICE!

by kbuggy 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: DREAM TEAM

It would be the best looking ticket in American history, no doubt...

by Mandoliniment 2008-05-14 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: DREAM TEAM

because that will make them such better leaders

by DiamondJay 2008-05-14 01:46PM | 0 recs
Don't be bitter!

Today is a good day for Democrats interested in unifying the party.

by Firewall 2008-05-14 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: DREAM TEAM
Wow. Just wow.
You're being wwaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy tooo sensitive.
by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: DREAM TEAM

Here, have a kitten:

Everybody loves kittens.

by Mandoliniment 2008-05-14 02:01PM | 0 recs
You are right,

usually leaders that are confident in themselves inspire a confidence in others.  Now being  good looking and really intelligent would likely make a leader confident, I know from personal experience ("slap" - self high five).

by KLRinLA 2008-05-14 02:46PM | 0 recs
Line of the Day LMAO

"usually leaders that are confident in themselves inspire a confidence in others.  Now being  good looking and really intelligent would likely make a leader confident, I know from personal experience ("slap" - self high five)."

LMAO  I would mojo you if I could

by wellinformed 2008-05-14 03:33PM | 0 recs
They're tooo cute.

This hetero male is kind of swooning over them.  Luckily they've got brains too.

by McNasty 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: DREAM TEAM

Did you see Dodd trying to hang in that one picture.  Obviously he was not a part of the conversation.  Poor Dodd.

by proseandpromise 2008-05-14 02:03PM | 0 recs
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I'm interested to hear Jerome's take on this.  Didn't he say he was originally an Edwards supporter?

by LordMike 2008-05-14 01:27PM | 0 recs
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I suspect it will take Jerome a few minutes to process his rage and discuss, and another few minutes figuring out how to word his response so that it argues that this endorsement helps Clinton.

by wasder 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Spot on. n/t

by McNasty 2008-05-14 01:50PM | 0 recs
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You've got that spot on. You need to leave him time to cry after he processes it too.

by jadegirl 2008-05-14 03:55PM | 0 recs
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I meant rage and disgust...

by wasder 2008-05-14 05:19PM | 0 recs
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I'm sure he will find a way to make this sound like a terrible development for Obama.  Haven't you heard?  We are all DOOMED if Obama wins the nomination.  :)

Also, I'm pretty sure the only candidate Jerome actually liked was Warner, who he worked for.  Edwards was just his first alternative.

by HSTruman 2008-05-14 01:31PM | 0 recs
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This is very good news and very well timed for Obama. I also wonder about the potential VP angle. I wonder if his presence on the losing ticket last time is giving anyone pause in the Obama camp?

by wasder 2008-05-14 01:27PM | 0 recs
shame on you, John!
the loser endorsed the loser.
I will send a letter to Edwards and ask him to return my money. Shame on you John!
If somebody can prove that majority of Democrats are  sexists, I will not be surprised.
by engels 2008-05-14 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

Sometimes I read a post such as this and think its snark.  But then I click the user page and realize its not.

...
Sad

by gil44 2008-05-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

Oh, give me a break...  The reason why many democrats don't like Hillary has nothing to do with her gender.  It's her record (especially on the war) and the tone of her campaign recently.

by LordMike 2008-05-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

And because they're the more conservative/nonliberal side of the Party, which is always about triumphs that end up with falling on their faces.
by killjoy 2008-05-14 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

Youare kidding, right?  Hillary, the Fox News democrat is the more liberal?  Give me a break!

by LordMike 2008-05-14 02:39PM | 0 recs
Um wasn't Edwards like the biggest Union

guy out there?  Corporations HATE unions... people fucking die/get killed in the fight for fair wages.  

by KLRinLA 2008-05-14 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

talk about losers!

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

"loser endorsed the loser"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - Inigo Montoya

by JoeCoaster 2008-05-14 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!
Count Rugen: You've got an overdeveloped sense of vengeance. It's going to get you into trouble someday.
by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

Is this snark?

Did somebody actually mojo this comment?

Please tell me this is snark.

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

If anyone could prove it, Hillary Clinton could.

But I do not think you would find the Democrats sexism to be going the direction you mean.

You understand that to date, Clinton has benefited from people who said gender was an important factor in their decision, based on Exit Polling.

by Tumult 2008-05-14 01:45PM | 0 recs
Don't feed this troll.

The shaky English is part of his shtick.  He's on assignment from LittleGreenFootballs.

by McNasty 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Baseless accusations of sexism.

Baseless accusations of racism are a ban-worthy offense on MyDD.  I wonder if the same standard could be applied to such flippant invocations of sexism, too.

by Shem 2008-05-14 02:13PM | 0 recs
I can easily prove

that the majority of your comments are moronic.

by bookish 2008-05-14 02:19PM | 0 recs
Re: shame on you, John!

You know, I'd like to believe that you're a troll and just having fun, but somehow I really think that in your particular universe it's sexist for a man to endorse a fellow man and not a woman.

Nope.  There could be NO OTHER REASON THAN A DISLIKE OF WOMEN IN POWER.  You got us.

Seriously, please, open your eyes.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-14 02:36PM | 0 recs
Awww, what grand theater

Well, I'm glad that Obama offered Edwards a deal that he could finally accept for his endorsement. Still don't think Edwards can plug Obama's hole that is now gaping after his thumpin' in West Virginia yesterday.

by grlpatriot 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Awww, what grand theater

lol!

More sour grapes!

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Awww, what grand theater

no such hole. The WV race was below the fold. See how the superdelegates continue to align behind Obama?

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:31PM | 0 recs
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Almost landed!

by nwodtuhs 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
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forgot the link:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N55AR

by nwodtuhs 2008-05-14 01:29PM | 0 recs
Noooo.

No flight information.  TexasDarlin or alegre might have a SAM.

by Tumult 2008-05-14 01:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Noooo.

OMFG.  Hilarious image.

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:17PM | 0 recs
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How odd to wait this long, with only a few primaries left.

by OrangeFur 2008-05-14 01:31PM | 0 recs
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It's called alignment and unity for the sake of the party.  

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:34PM | 0 recs
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All aboard!

by DeskHack 2008-05-14 01:32PM | 0 recs
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Next stop: Dukakis-Gore-Kerry-ville, now accepting black people

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-05-14 01:35PM | 0 recs
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Come on Zeitgeist, you're better than that.

by NewOaklandDem 2008-05-14 01:42PM | 0 recs
Who are ...

...people who won the Democratic Primary.

Zeit, welcome to reality..

by JoeCoaster 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
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Turns out: not true. Who'da thunk.

by Mandoliniment 2008-05-14 02:05PM | 0 recs
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Way to disparage fellow dems! Yay!!!!!

No to Unity!!

Yes to Sniping!!

Yay!!!

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

With this news I retire. Goodbye Mydd

by Hillarywillwin 2008-05-14 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

So long and thanks for all the snark...

by Mandoliniment 2008-05-14 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

It was fun while it lasted, eh?  I was getting ready to leave this site until silly season was over, but it appears to have ended today.  People don't seem to realize that Edwards won a bunch of delegates in Florida too, if he directs them to vote for Obama even seating that state in full won't save Clinton.  Obama already won most of the uncommitted slate in Michigan.  Clinton has no trumps left.

by Skaje 2008-05-14 01:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Fantastic News.  It's more over than ever before.

by NewOaklandDem 2008-05-14 01:34PM | 0 recs
You're all missing the point here.

This is smart, smart, politics by Obama. You've got to assume he had the Edwards endorsement in his pocket before N. Carolina, but he held onto it, not needing it in NC, but knowing he was going to lose big in WV. So he parcels out the Edwards endorsement the day after WV, utterly eating up the news cycle the day after Hillary's victory. Great patience. Smart tactics. So smart.

by Travis Stark 2008-05-14 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

I don't understand how you could be so joyful over the manipulation implied in your statement.  I can't understand how someone like John Edwards, who allegedly detests those types of games, would play along with something like this.  

by JustJennifer 2008-05-14 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

How is this manipulation? What FACTS are being manipulated?

eh?

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:43PM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

Implying that Obama had the endorsement but saved it to trump Hillary's good press over her win in WVA is definitely an act of manipuation.

by JustJennifer 2008-05-14 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: and Clinton

Never said she didn't... but Obama is supposed to be for a new style of politics, right?  

by JustJennifer 2008-05-14 02:14PM | 0 recs
Re: "new politics"

So are you saying Obama will do or say anything to win?  LOL

by JustJennifer 2008-05-14 02:42PM | 0 recs
Re: "new politics"
So timing announcements is 'manipulation'? That's funny, when I look up 'manipulation' in your dictionary, I see: "Anything that doesn't help Hillary." Oh, wait, I guess a Democrat endorsing another Democrat *is* manipulation. (eyeroll) I suppose the superdelegate that endorsed Hillary today was also "manipulating" events?
by torrentprime 2008-05-14 03:00PM | 0 recs
Re: "new politics"

No, but if Edwards was endorsing Hillary right now instead of Obama what do you think his supporters would be saying about all of this right now?

by JustJennifer 2008-05-14 03:07PM | 0 recs
IF IF IF

Nothing.

We're winning. The less said about her endorsements the better.

by astoria gooner 2008-05-15 09:38AM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

It's called the "Obama smoke screen". Watch as his surrogates and supporters prop up the wiener. You can play too if you like. But if you are a Hillary supporter, you still support a winner not a wiener.

by grlpatriot 2008-05-14 01:43PM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

Jeezus.  I hope you are not over 14 years old.

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:47PM | 0 recs
Heh, he said "weiner."

Are you lost?  I think you're looking for nicktoons.com.

by McNasty 2008-05-14 01:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh, he said "weiner."

I've never missed my mofo'ing abilities more than right now.

by proseandpromise 2008-05-14 02:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh, he said "weiner."

It's ok.  My Dad can beat up their Dad.  ;)

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:24PM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

Umm. These are all politicians you know.

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:44PM | 0 recs
Are you kidding?

With all the crap going on in this campaign you think the scheduling of endorsement announcements is bad somehow? Don't you think Obama's been scheduling the 5 or 6 a day that's been dribbling out? This is how it works. The endorser contacts the campaign and says I'm ready to endorse. How can I be the most help? And then the candidate and the endorser figure out how to make the most impact. Obama was always going to lose WV big, and so this was a brilliant time to schedule this announcement. Absolute political genius.

by Travis Stark 2008-05-14 01:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Are you kidding?

In general what you say makes sense, but I don't think it makes sense in this particular instance -- I believe if Obama had Edwards support before e.g. Indiana, he'd have used it then, to tilt an extra few points to his favor.

by Aris Katsaris 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Are you kidding?

2 or 3 net delegates in Indiana is nothing compared to winning the news cycle the day after Clinton sweeps (it's only one primary, but she didn't lose any to offset the spin).

Now the narrative shifts from "Clinton wins; could she stay in?" to "Obama/Edwards; West Virginia where?"

by Capt America 2008-05-14 02:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Are you kidding?

That sounds right.  He would have loved to have Edwards campaign for him back then.

This matters because it draws media coverage away from Clinton's WV win and because it's a clear signal that the tribe has spoken.  Edwards, for whatever reason, decided he wasn't going to take a side while the outcome was in doubt.  This is his signal that in his mind it's over.

by TL 2008-05-14 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: You're all missing the point here.

Yes I agree Senator Obama has run an effective campaign against the Clintons

by Politicalslave 2008-05-14 03:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Will be some nice speech making, wonder if we will get any policy shifts.

by Tumult 2008-05-14 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

VP might well put NC in play...

by Mandoliniment 2008-05-14 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

It didn't last time...

by LordMike 2008-05-14 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Obama starts off considerably stronger in NC than Kerry was.

by Mandoliniment 2008-05-14 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Great news. Edwards always liked Obama. You could always tell.
They have good chemistry together.

Well after months and months of speculation and many posts.
Here it is. The endorsement.

by MissVA 2008-05-14 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

I hope Edwards and Clinton both push Obama on health care.  If he goes into the fall with a real, universal health care plan, then this primary season will have served its purpose: arming the Dem nominee with the most progressive arguments and policy proposals to take on the GOP in November.

By the way, I don't see Edwards as VP or (even worse) as SC justice.  I see him as attorney general.

by Koan 2008-05-14 01:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Maybe Sec'y of Labor. I think there are many places he could do a lot of good. I don't think VP either though.

by Travis Stark 2008-05-14 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Agreed.  I seriously doubt JRE would even want to be Veep.  His talents are better utilized elsewhere:  AG, Labor Sec., SCOTUS, hell just about anywhere else.  Poverty Czar or whatever...

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:27PM | 0 recs
blah

oh well. it was a great run, even after a little fatigue back in march, it's been great.

VP picks -

Since Obama is going to win the nomination, Charlie Crist is fucked out of a VP slot for McCain as FL is mightily pissed.

I dont think Edwards will be VP, but probably AG and that would warm me up quicker to Obama/?

Who is gonna be the VP on the ticket????????????

by sepulvedaj3 2008-05-14 01:41PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Webb is my guess.  

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Webb or Strickland have to be considered the front-runners.

by PantherDem 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

maybe Rendell, that pugnacious little turd.  ;)

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:28PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

As a Pennsylvanian who has voted for Rendell - God, I hope not.

by PantherDem 2008-05-14 02:31PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

I've heard there are many like you.  Honestly, I knew very little about the guy before this cycle (and still don't know much).

He certainly wouldn't be my first choice.  :)

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:35PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

I'm another Pennsylvania who each time I have voted it has been for a Democrat.

Ed Rendell is the only Democrat I almost didn't vote for. The only reason I didn't was because Lynn Swann was a joke of a candidate.

Rendell is mega popular in SE PA, not so much anywhere else.

by PSUdan 2008-05-14 02:57PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Welcome aboard!

Let's beat up on McCain now please!

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-14 01:45PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

as soon as she drops out i will sign up on Obama's website. but not before

by sepulvedaj3 2008-05-14 06:57PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Obama/Hagel.

That is the ticket.

by MissVA 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

agreed

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:57PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Yuck.  A Repug wouldn't help this year (see MS-01), even a RINO like Hagel.  

Webb, Sebelius, and Richardson seem to be the "Tier 1" possiblities, although each has pluses & minuses.   I haven't found a good reason to eliminate Feingold from consideration either.  Mark Warner would have been a great fit, although I guess he's more valuable in the Senate.

by Twin Planets 2008-05-14 02:31PM | 0 recs
Not Richardson

He might help in the mountain west, but he'd hurt like hell in the rust belt.  NM and Co are not a good trade for PA and OH.

by NM Ward Chair 2008-05-14 05:06PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

if he picks Hagel, i would be very disappointed.

by sepulvedaj3 2008-05-15 07:58AM | 0 recs
Re: blah

The gay rumors surrounding Crist will keep him off the Republican ticket, permanently.  He'll never go further than his current office.

by erzeszut 2008-05-14 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Wasn't going to be Crist anyway; there are persistent rumors that he's gay.  In a normal Republican year that would kill the ticket, but especially in 2008 when McCain is going to have to fight like hell to hang onto his base, having a VP nom with gay rumors would gut his Christian Right support.

I think it's Pawlenty.

by mistersite 2008-05-14 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: blah

Jim Webb for sure, would be the smart choice.

by politicalfan 2008-05-14 04:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Very interesting to have both of them address the Michigan voters.

by Piuma 2008-05-14 01:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Making up for lost time. I'm guessing the Florida will get the Gore endorsement rally.

Obama...very smart.

by JoeCoaster 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

I think you're dead right on that one.  Gore in FL.

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Elizabeth said they might endorse different people. It will be telling if she is NOT there. The smarter Edwards is backing Hillary

by rossinatl 2008-05-14 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Keep those fingers crossed!

/snark

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Also, the less relevant Edwards is endorsing Hillary.  The one that doesn't have any delegates, nor ever held an elective office.

But hey.  Grasp those straws!!

by erzeszut 2008-05-14 01:55PM | 0 recs
Less relevant, perhaps

but Elizabeth is the true darling of Blogistan; we just tolerate John because he was smart enough to marry such a great woman.

by McNasty 2008-05-14 02:15PM | 0 recs
argh

I am going to miss it on TV.

by sepulvedaj3 2008-05-14 01:42PM | 0 recs
Great timing.

Endorse after getting crushed in WV.

by gotalife 2008-05-14 01:43PM | 0 recs
Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

Let's forget this will have zero impact in KY and then rest of the contests -- Edwards ended up being a non-player, out-of-the-game a while ago.

And now, well, he's doing something he said he wouldn't do.

Telling of Edwards, desperate of Obama (he needs a southern to shore up the white vote) and irrelevant in the results.

by dcrolg 2008-05-14 01:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

Except that his delegates will wipe out Clinton's margins  in WV, and probably KY as well.

by PantherDem 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

I'd call it shrewd rather than desperate.

by quixote27 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

Edwards irrelevant?  26,000 west virginians who couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black man or a woman disagree with you.

Not sure if racism/misogyny are the reasons, but the exit polls are troubling in WV.  

by Bargeron 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

Was there a primary yesterday?  

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

made me giggle

by astoria gooner 2008-05-14 01:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

Was there?  I can't recall.

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Endorsing when "we will not endorse"

Except that this makes the next news cycle about Edwards endorsing Obama rather than about Clinton winning WV.  This story sucks all the oxygen out of the WV story, including the "OMG white voters don't like Obama!!!11!!111one!" bloviation binge the press has been on recently.  It also increases the power of the "it's over" meme by a power of 10.

by mistersite 2008-05-14 01:56PM | 0 recs
Welcome to Judasville!

The die-hards on this site have given Edwards the kind of welcome they'd give to Mother Teresa herself if she rose from the grave to endorse Obama.

Oh well. The progressive blogosphere is happy with tonight's endorsement. MyDD will continue to fester in company with H44, TM, etc.

by Firewall 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

rumor is that Edwards was on obama's jet today. Along with them was a fat opera singer rehearsing for tonight's event. I think she is going to sing.

PerezPolitics.com

by comingawakening 2008-05-14 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Hey, wait ~

What's that writing say?

There, on the wall ~ can you read it?

by pholkhero 2008-05-14 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

This is excellent news! For Hillary!!!11!

by Firewall 2008-05-14 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Now let's pound the hell out of McCain.  It's time to just destroy this clown together.

by Pat Flatley 2008-05-14 01:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

I said it before when I heard rumors that he may endorse Clinton.  His endorsement isn't really that important.  The only reason it's significant now, isn't b/c of who he is, but what it represents....the party moving behind the nominee.

by venavena 2008-05-14 01:58PM | 0 recs
Keeping on course & in control

Edward's never could deliver any states to Obama but, as you say, right now it has a much bigger effect. It makes the story 'the party leaders are lining up behind the nominee'. Obama doesn't want to many endorsements to early, not until the last primary vote is cast. So no one can say Hillary was denied her chance. He just needs enough coming out daily to keep the narrative on track. After WV he needed a little extra boost in that department which Edwards provided.

by hankg 2008-05-14 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Keeping on course & in control

McCain's rusty old campaign team ai't got nothin on these guys.  Obama campaign '08: future stars of the party in the making!

by haystax calhoun 2008-05-14 02:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

I wonder if Clinton knew beforehand.  

Any ideas on this?

by Blue Neponset 2008-05-14 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Word is Edwards didn't give her advance warning.

by Josh Orton 2008-05-14 02:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

MSNBC reported that Edwards contacted Sen. Clinton prior to the announcment and the Clinton campaign compared this decision favorably the the "Judas" Richardson.

Edwards was my guy in 2004 and in 2008.  Poverty is my top domestic issue, healthcare right there as well.  I prefer Clinton.

I strongly doubt the VP angle, though I suppose it is possible.  AG would be fantastic, as I have said since he dropped out of the nomination race.  A fearless, effective attorney with a proven track record of taking on corporations could help do great work overturning the Bush DOJ record across the board.  I have no doubt the GOPers would blow up the Senate to prevent his elevation to the USSC, though it would make me even happier than AG.

by Trond Jacobsen 2008-05-14 02:23PM | 0 recs
No.

The ABC news article corrects that later, saying they did indeed contact the Clinton campaign before planning the announcement.  It would have been rude not to.

by McNasty 2008-05-14 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: No.

I've no doubt he let the Clintons know beforehand.

by fogiv 2008-05-14 02:33PM | 0 recs
Edwards notified Clinton Campaign in advance(LINK)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/ 2008/05/edwards-to-endo.html

by optimusprime 2008-05-14 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards notified Clinton Campaign in advance(L

Thank you.

by Blue Neponset 2008-05-14 03:15PM | 0 recs
Click 'Live Video' to get Broadcast

by optimusprime 2008-05-14 02:18PM | 0 recs
Well

I am glad he is choosing to do as he wishes.

I do wonder where Elizabeth is on this? I think they were partially split, at one time, in who to endorse and that is why he held off endorsing. Health care is A-NUMBER 1 to Elizabeth.

I actually wish Edwards would have not endorsed at all. I have always felt this. I wanted him to stay out of the fight so that he could speak his mind as needed.

by kevin22262 2008-05-14 02:22PM | 0 recs
Just an FYI to Obama supporters

NARAL is getting some nasty responses from dead-enders to their endorsement of Obama earlier today. Take some time to head over there and give 'em some love (and/or money).

http://www.naral.org/

by bookish 2008-05-14 02:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Ironic

Just because someone or some group endorses your candidate or the other, you are not obligated to love or hate them because of it.

Unless some scumbag misogynist doesn't support Hill, which is unforgivable as we have all learned.

by xdem 2008-05-14 03:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Can we transfer Edwards's popular vote to Obama as well?

That would certainly make more sense than counting votes from Michigan.

by gcensr 2008-05-14 02:25PM | 0 recs
Sad to say

2 things-
#1 Edwards couldn't help Kerry.
#2 Who will Obama roll out after his 30+ loss in Kentucky.  

Sinking ship yall, i'm feeling it more everyday.  I'm terrified.

by easyE 2008-05-14 02:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

This is the best, most dignified endorsement i've heard. John Edwards must be in the next cabinet.

Congratulations to Obama for this important endorsement, and congratulations to John Edwards for being so nice about Hillary.

by liberalj 2008-05-14 02:48PM | 0 recs
Well Done Party Establishment

Very nicely choreographed coronation since TX and OH.

Leave the fact that the candidate who may yet win the popular vote could be kicked to the curb without so much as having her case heard.   This is very nice stagecraft indeed.

In the end, I guess this is right.  Niether Clinton nor Obama had the votes to get to the nomination on their own, so it was up to the Superdelegates.  Clearly, they are speaking, albeit in drips and drabs and with some discretion, that they prefer Senator Obama to be the nominee.  

The coronation process that our party employs is working just as it was intended to do.

by activatedbybush 2008-05-14 02:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Well Done Party Establishment

Sigh...there is no popular vote. Nice myth, but that's all it is. Caucus results do not represent the popular vote of an entire state. How can you equate closed and open primary states? It's pure BS. Hilary had every chance since TX and OH to win it. All she had to do was win every remaining contest by 60 percent or so. Tough break, but she put it in on herself by having NO post Super Tuesday strategy.

Or did the party make that happen too?

Obama won it fair and square. Now can we PLEASE unite and take out McCain?

by Reeves 2008-05-14 02:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

Edwards for Attorney General.

by Skaje 2008-05-14 02:55PM | 0 recs
and/or

Associate justice of the Supreme Court.  Eat that, John Roberts!

by NM Ward Chair 2008-05-14 05:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama

OK. I did my bit commending Hillary supporters on Tuesday night. She's a great politician, and no longer in Bill's shadow. She has a great future. But Obama is the nominee.

They played this so well from start to finish. The kitchen sink was pivoted, and this announcement comes just at the right time.

I always trusted Edwards to come through - though friends on the Obama campaign thought they'd lost him. But he's smart, he saw which way the wind was blowing, and trimmed his sails at just the right time.

by duende 2008-05-14 04:00PM | 0 recs

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