London's Mayoral Race

It's been shaped up as a two-way race for the Mayoral race in London, between the incumbent Ken Livingston and the Conservative candidate Boris Johnson. I've been rooting/working (read, disclaimer...) for the alternative, Liberal Democrat candidate Brian Paddick.

Paddick is still in 3rd place in the latest poll (44-37-12 on the first preference), but his "serious about London" slogan has been able to increasingly  frame the candidacy of Boris Johnson as the opposite:

Meanwhile, an increasing number of voters are worried that Mr Johnson is "not serious enough" to make an effective mayor. Those who question the Tory candidate's seriousness has risen from 34 per cent two weeks ago, to 40 per cent last week, to 43 per cent this week.
I can't imagine that Londoners will elect Boris Johnson as Mayor, but obviously, the majority wants an alternative to Ken Livingston. Given the way it works in London though, with second preference votes ("Under the London election system, voters are allowed two choices. The lowest-scoring candidates are eliminated and the second preferences of those who voted for them are then taken into consideration."), it's going to be very close, and Livingston might still be favored. The election is May 1st. A second poll has it at 45-44-9 for Johnson, Livingston, Paddick.

Labour, in general, is in a potentially painful spot heading into the next elections. What's propelling the Conservatives? For one thing, they've effectively neutralized the oldness that the Tories have been in the UK for a while now, by radicalizing their positions on the environment, painting environmental conservatism as a Conservative position. The fall of Labour provides a good opening for Liberal Democrats-- they can be in a pivotal position for 2009, when the next national elections will be held. The Lib Dems elected a new leader, Nick Clegg, over the winter, and have the potential to once again finish in the top two in the national projected share of the vote on May 1st.

Tags: Boris Johnson, Brian Paddick, Ken Livingston (all tags)

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Re: London's Mayoral Race

Paddick will be eliminated on the first vote - where his 2nd pref goes will determine the winner. It will be tight.

The LibDems nationally are struggling under their new leader. They seem rather becalmed and you have thought with Labour's woes they would be well up in the polls.  

by albagubrath 2008-04-21 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race

The problem for the LibDems is that they tend to run well in years the Torys do poorly. That's because many of their seats are rural Tory marginals with lots of moderate voters who tend to swing from the centre to the right-centre. They've always struggled to establish themselves in the traditional Labour strongholds in London and the north, and though they've made a few inroads, it's not enough to put them over the top.

At this point, Labour have botched things so badly that I'm hoping the next parliament will be hung and that there'll be a Tory-LibDem minority government. It would force the Conservatives to the left whilst hopefully allowing the LibDems to work to ameliorate the worst of Labour's damage to civil liberties, etc.

by John Seal 2008-04-21 01:43PM | 0 recs
THe Problem with Labour

Labour's problem is that they are suffering the same malady as Democrats did in the late 90's through 2004. They are drifing through the center trying to be all things to right and left. Participating in the war seriously alienated the left and, had the Liberal Democrats been a more viable alternative, would have lost the last parliamentary elections. If the Tories have their shit together the way you describe, Labour will be devatated.

by RandyMI 2008-04-21 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: THe Problem with Labour

That's true, but Ken has always been on the far left of the party and was always against the war. That's why I think he would be cruising to victory if he were still an independent. Unfortunately, Labour allowed him back into the fold in 2004.

by John Seal 2008-04-21 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race

Whilst Paddick is a reasonable alternative, there's really only one choice, and that's Red Ken. He must be wishing that Labour had never taken him back into the fold now (the party expelled him years back for disloyalty), because their repulsive brand is probably as responsible for his present difficulties as anything else. Johnson is an upper-class idiot who still uses words like 'pickaninny', and it will be a shameful mark against the world's greatest city should they elect him.

Please note that the yougov polls have consistently given Johnson a lead, whereas other polls show the race a dead heat or better for Ken. The Evening Standard also hates, hates, HATES Red Ken, and  will go to any lengths to undermine him.

Bottom line: Ken ain't perfect, but who is. He's still the best man for the job, and has done wonders for reinvigorating London's mass transit (especially bus lines)whilst cutting pollution at the same time via the congestion charge.

by John Seal 2008-04-21 01:37PM | 0 recs
New Yorker did a pieced on this

was pretty good. Sounds like an entertaining race. Lots of populism going on.

by catfish1 2008-04-21 01:44PM | 0 recs
Personally, and ultimately,

I think the vehicle to making a left-wing party in the UK lies in Labour, not in the Lib-Dems. The Lib-Dems were founded as a centrist alternative to Labour and the Tories, and it seems to me that they aren't going to deviate very far from their core base of beliefs. True, short term, Lib Dems are often to the left of New Labour, but ultimately the vehicle to a center-left party in England means restoring Labour back to some of its roots.

by KainIIIC 2008-04-21 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Personally, and ultimately,

Maybe...or maybe Labour need to merge with their new soulmates in the Conservative Party and clear the field for the Greens or another genuine left-wing alternative. At this point, Labour is run by a cabal of corrupt apparatchiks who have sold whatever values they once held dear for a mess of pottage, er, power.

Tony Benn for PM!

by John Seal 2008-04-21 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Personally, and ultimately,

has Benn left the ancestral home in Labour, then?

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and what's with this remark:
"but obviously, the majority wants an alternative to Ken Livingston."

i doubt the majority want an alternative to Ken, and Boris SHOULD be unelectable. Paddick, imo, has no chance. Not sure that the continuing decline of london, still part of merrie olde, is Ken's fault. Lack of investment in basic services and probably the unhappiest population in Europe.

by brooklyngal 2008-04-21 08:55PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race

Hmmm very intersting, I love international politics when it's slow over here.

But really what does this have to do with the progressive agenda we need to make a sucess in America.

Not hating, but I just feel we keep putting these non-usa stories up as a distraction.

I doubt the new MAYOR of london will help make any difference over here.
Does he have any pull over the PM?

We need to get out of Iraq, and the only question we need to ask the Brits is why they haven't left yet.

Had they just left, bush would have lost his already broken feet he tries to stand on.

by GeorgeP922 2008-04-21 02:05PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race

"painting environmental conservatism as a Conservative position"

Wow!... wouldn't it be nice to live in a country where the CONSERVATIVE position is for increased environmental protections?

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by GeorgeP922 2008-04-21 02:45PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race

Hello from London. Paddick despite his great qualities has come across as a dull plodder in this campaign. He has no chance. Boris is a touch flakey and  a political moderate. Ken had a great first term but his second term has been a failure.  He's spent the last 4 years  flitting around the world establishing useless and costly London embassies in Havana and Caracas and welcoming gay-bashing, jew-hating  imams to london. At home,violent crime is rising and the transportation system is crumbling.If i could vote here,it would be Paddick with Boris my second choice.

by sinful1 2008-04-21 02:57PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race
A touch flakey?? If Ken is consorting with gay-bashing Imams (and I think this is a stretch!), how can you vote for an out and out racist like Boris? If that's your Standard--and perhaps you read your Evening Standard whilst taking the tube back to
High Barnet or Epping of a night--then you can't vote for EITHER. In fact, I think you SHOULD vote for the gay candidate, Brian Paddick--but Boris? You can't be serious. If you can't stand voting for Ken, give your second vote to Sian Berry.  
by John Seal 2008-04-21 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: London's Mayoral Race

Again, why all the talk of mayoral races in London?

Do we have alot of expats on here?

Because as awesome as the English system is, I don't see how it is relevant today.

America is facing huge turmoil and a national election, with so many more issues Im not sure how the nuanced election in london matters.

Unless of course one canidate says they are pulling out of Iraq unconditionally ASAP

by GeorgeP922 2008-04-21 03:29PM | 0 recs
What?

Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?

On another note...isn't the lack of knowledge about the rest of the world the very cause of some of the more disastrous of American foreign policy?

by Nazgul35 2008-04-21 06:59PM | 0 recs
Re: What?

I say absolutely,  just trying to find the relevance.

Is the Labour vs LD in london impact our politics at all?

I just find it refreshingly suprising the expertise some members show here, so I must ask if they are living in britain.

Am I crazy to think this may be a random thread?

by GeorgeP922 2008-04-22 06:04AM | 0 recs
Paddick's a distraction

I like Brian Paddick. He should be running the Metropolitan Police, and Ian Blair should be up on charges of conspiracy to murder Jean-Charles Menezes. Paddick's openly gay, presided over effective decriminalisation of cannabis in Brixton and is just about the only senior London police officer to have had good relations with his borough.

But the oxygen in the race just isn't there for him, his environmental proposals seem poorly thought out and he's not a great campaigner.

It'll go down to the second preferences of supporters of Paddick and the Green candidate, Sian Berry (who is telling her voters to put Livingstone as a second choice), but I think Livingstone will probably eke out a narrow win. Assuming our Prime Minister doesn't do anything else stupid to tarnish the Labour brand, like his moronic stand on abolishing the 10p tax rate has done.

Long term, however, the Lib Dems are not the best vehicle for a move to the left in Britain. I can see why they appeal to Jerome, as at their best they're a lot like Mark Warner - technocratic centrists in conservative areas with a focus on innovation and a good understanding of the media.

Most of the time, however, they're gadflies, less competent than they claim, given to very dirty campaigning and far too economically libertarian for comfort. Many of their votes have come from centre-right voters who the Tories have alienated (and Cameron bringing them back onside has led to their national numbers sinking).

Labour is currently very badly tarnished, but if the Old Guard is ousted almost en masse (which seems likely to happen fairly quickly if we lose the next general election) and we start sticking up for our voters rather than City financiers then we're much better positioned to gain back the voters than the Lib Dems are to become the new second force in British politics. All the Lib Dems are really doing right now - as a party, that is, since their MPs (some of whom are execellent) don't really form a homogenous group - is fracturing the anti-Conservative vote.

by Englishlefty 2008-04-21 05:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Paddick's a distraction

Excellent analysis here.

Labour needs to chuck the triangulators and get back to being a real left-wing party. How about putting Jeremy Corbyn or the excellent Bob Marshall-Andrews
in charge?

by John Seal 2008-04-21 06:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Paddick's a distraction

The trouble is that the leadership system is stacked against insurgent campaigns.

Only John McDonnell, probably the most awkward of the awkward squad, was willing to even challenge Brown for the leadership, and he couldn't get the open support of the 40+ Labour MPs he needed to trigger a contest.

And now that Brown is the sitting leader, still more MPs are required to take him down.

The triangulators need to go, because they aren't doing it well. They're aiming for the votes that Labour needs to get to 50%, the votes we didn't even get in 1997. If you're going to shift to the centre, at least aim to hold the marginals in Kent rather than the safe Tory seats in Surrey.

What's more the press and country are so cynical that the old spin can't work and relentlessly running from progressive ideas has just made it harder to actually enact the progressive change that Brown at least wants.

The Milburn-Byers-Clarke wing of the party right needs to be marginalised more than it already is and the loyalty-at-all-cost fetishists like Hazel Blears should have no place in government.

If Labour loses the next election, and a perfect storm of economic strife and inept politicking from Brown makes that seem likely, then they need to come back to the next election with a lot more new faces and a lot less of the party establishment as candidates.

by Englishlefty 2008-04-22 05:45AM | 0 recs

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