Second Straight Indiana Poll Puts Obama Up 5 Points

A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll released this week put Barack Obama ahead 5 points in Indiana, 40 percent to 35 percent. This was the first public polling released out of the state since February to show Obama leading Hillary Clinton, a fact, which coupled along with the very high proportion of undecideds, led to a degree of hesitance (at least on my part) to put much stock in the numbers. But perhaps the numbers were not so far off after all. A SurveyUSA poll commissioned by the Mike Downs Center for Indiana Politics also finds a 5-point Obama edge, 50 percent to 45 percent.

Clinton's most solid support comes from the most partisan Democrats (51% Clinton to 45% Obama), with weaker Democratic identifiers, independents, and most Republicans tending to support Obama.

Obama outperforms Clinton with Indiana men (55% to 42%) while women are for Clinton (48% to 46%)--but within the margin of error.

Likely Indiana Democratic primary voters over 50 prefer Clinton to Obama (53% to 42%) while Obama leads among the voters under 50 (59% to 36%).

Meanwhile, white Democratic primary Hoosier voters also fall within the margin of error on vote preference with 48% indicating they would support Clinton and 47% who would support Obama.  Obama dominates among African-Americans 78% to 17%.

The effects of income and education follow similar patterns concerning Democratic primary support.  Higher educated likely Democratic primary voters support Obama while the less educated of these voters support Clinton.  Clinton does relatively better than Obama among those with lower incomes, while Obama does particularly well among the highest income Hoosiers in this voting block.

This survey was entirely in the field before the last Democratic debate, so the sentiments of those Hoosier voters do not reflect a reaction to the latest back and forth in the race between Clinton and Obama. However, for whatever it's worth, the survey has given both Pollster.com and Real Clear Politics enough data from which to formulate a trend estimate and a poll average, respectively. According to Pollster, Clinton's lead now sits at 49 percent to 43 percent, while RCP average has Clinton up 46.0 percent to 43.8 percent. What we do know for sure at this point is this: Three of the last five polls released in the state have the race within the margin of error, with one more survey just a point outside of that margin, so this sure looks like a close race at this juncture.

Tags: 2008, Democratic primaries, Indiana, Indiana Primary (all tags)

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Indiana

With Indiana and North Carolina on the same day (I think), a double win there by Obama could make it very difficult for Clinton to contin--

(takes a breath, a pause, thinks)

Clinton has made this a tough fight, and I wouldn't be surprised if she tightens up the races everywhere between now and mid-May.  She is a great candidate, and whatever happens, she has my respect and admiration.  

by LarsThorwald 2008-04-19 11:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Indiana

I agree she's been a tough campaigner, but these polls were taken about 3 weeks out from the contest, and we have a track record here -- of 24 states with 3-week out data, Clinton's only gained on Obama in one -- Rhode Island.  In the other 23, he gained ground.

Past record is no guarantee of future result, of course, but that's a pretty strong indicator.

by Rorgg 2008-04-19 07:01PM | 0 recs
I think that it is a MIRACLE that Obama

is beating Hillary right now.

Obama is a newcomer and Hillary has been here awhile and has roots in many states.

I think it is a MIRACLE that Obama is doing as well as he has been doing.

by puma 2008-04-19 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: I think that it is a MIRACLE that Obama

2 reasons:

a) Money: He built a grassroot approach and I salute him for that. That approach makes money inflow easy as you can pick any emotional event and feed off it.

b) David Axelrod & co.: His campaign manager and related team have been shrewd (i would say cumming at some instances) and took risks/chances at appropriate times. They built media relations early on and managed it well.

by Sandeep 2008-04-19 03:40PM | 0 recs
SurveyUSA

the most reliable so far in prediction of results, has Clinton up by 16, before the debate.

The take away for me is that it is all pretty fluid right now; that events of the last few days and weeks will force the re-evaluation of choice, and that some people may not make up their minds until they are in the voting booth.

I believe PA is a closed primary?

by 4justice 2008-04-19 12:19PM | 0 recs
correction--IN is an open primary state

by 4justice 2008-04-19 12:30PM | 0 recs
Re: SurveyUSA

Grasping at straws.

by reggie44pride 2008-04-19 12:38PM | 0 recs
Re: SurveyUSA

If I recall, this poll is NOT a SUSA poll as denoted by the fact that it does not have Susa's name on it.  

If I recall, SUSA did the field work and the titled poll used their own turnout model which is different from SUSA's model so I would not put much note in it.

The last SUSA poll had Clinton up by 16 in In, I'll wait for the next official SUSA IN poll.

The Clinton's have spent alot of time in IN and Bayh and other military generals have spent some time stumping for her there. I will reserve judgement on this poll.

by shark 2008-04-19 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: SurveyUSA

That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

by babbitt 2008-04-19 12:39PM | 0 recs
Why


   did you troll rate my comment? What was wrong with it?

 

by southernman 2008-04-21 07:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Why

He troll rated my prediction map, too.

He has no reason being at his website if he cannot discus ideas.

by johnnygunn 2008-04-22 04:35AM | 0 recs
Re: SurveyUSA

You are a blind partisan troll.

by johnnygunn 2008-04-22 04:37AM | 0 recs
Re: SurveyUSA

Why does SUSA have such a different model? Looking at IN and PA, SUSA seems to have a different model than every other pollster out there. What's going on?

by poserM 2008-04-19 12:54PM | 0 recs
Huh

So much for my understanding of the US electorate. I would have guessed Indiana would be less receptive to Obama than Pennsylvania, not more.

Maybe they connect with him on a basketball level. Only being a little flippant about that-- basketball is a BIG deal in Indiana, and Michelle's brother is a coach and Obama's a big basketball fan, so maybe hearing him talk about sports the same way they do makes him seem more accessible to Indiana voters.

Or maybe Indiana is just a lot more like Illinois than I thought it was.

by tjekanefir 2008-04-19 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Huh

either way this might be a nail in the coffin for Hillary.  This could be a good way for her to bow out gracefully.

by clintonmccain 2008-04-19 12:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Indiana Poll

You write: "This survey was entirely in the field before the last Democratic debate."

I'd say that makes it almost irrelevant.  Obama has dropped like a stone since that debate according to Gallop's poll today.  And a good win in PA for Clinton will undoubtedly change the subsequent primary scenarios.    

by miriam 2008-04-19 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Indiana Poll

Obama is not dropping like a stone.  He's up 19 points in Newsweek, soaring in North Carolina, and doing just fine in PA.

A small win by Clinton in PA will do nothing to change the game, which is over by now.  Expect Obama to release 20-25 of his 50 superdelegates in possession on Wednesday to downplay her "win."

by reggie44pride 2008-04-19 12:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Indiana Poll

Plz stop raising the bar, k thx.

by vcalzone 2008-04-19 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Indiana Poll

Newsweek's poll?  Are you serious--or rather, have you read Newsweek in the past three months? It's wall-to-wall Obama worship.  Why don't you look instead at pollsters who've been very reliable in the past, such as SUSA?  They tell a different story.

by miriam 2008-04-19 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Indiana Poll

You may be right.

by vcalzone 2008-04-19 12:46PM | 0 recs
The Fat lady is singing

Time to concede on Wednesday morning Hillary.

by reggie44pride 2008-04-19 12:36PM | 0 recs
How in the hell do you poll IN?

It's an open primary.

by Bucky 2008-04-19 12:55PM | 0 recs
Lots of time yet

Indiana might prove pretty interesting, though, as it is much closer to Obama's home turf than PA is.

Of course, we'll have to see tomorrow (?) whether Hillary has enough money to keep it going another three weeks. The NYT article today didn't seem too hopeful.

by professor 2008-04-19 01:10PM | 0 recs
POLLS SCHMOLLS

It no longer matters. I have, as of the Newsweek release on Friday...STOPPED looking.

Why?  Let's look at it.

Hill wins PA by say 7-11 points, Obama wins NC by 12-15, Either win In by less than 5, Obama wins OR by less than 5, HRC wins KY by 15 or so...

...in the end... Obama will need somewhere between 25%-35% of the remaining SDs...SDs, btw are growing increasingly sick of the negativity.  

It's DONE.

by a gunslinger 2008-04-19 01:18PM | 0 recs
Re: POLLS SCHMOLLS

have there been new Kentucky polls of late? I thought he'd lose KY by 25-30 points.

then again, finals are coming up and my time spent tracking politics will NEED to diminish greatly. *sad face*

by alex100 2008-04-19 01:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Second Straight Indiana Poll Puts Obama Up 5 P

I always thought Obama would win Indiana by more then 10 points. Only because of the Northwest part of the state, Obama's Illinois ground game coming across the border and Indianapolis.

At this juncture, i'm not going to even pretend to know who will even win the state. These polls do support my initial belief that he would win the state though.

by alex100 2008-04-19 01:25PM | 0 recs
interesting first line

"Clinton's most solid support comes from the most partisan Democrats (51% Clinton to 45% Obama), with weaker Democratic identifiers, independents, and most Republicans tending to support Obama."

Now, certainly, this isn't anyting new and this narrative has been discussed.  But the fact that, this late in the process, that this is still holding, is somewhat of interest.

by toonsterwu 2008-04-19 02:07PM | 0 recs
re

Hillary must win Indiana to counter "Obama wins NC"

by rossinatl 2008-04-20 01:19AM | 0 recs

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