Edwards Endorsing?

There's a rumor spreading through the floor of the CDP convention that John Edwards will endorse Hillary Clinton tomorrow. I've heard it from two people separately but the source appears to be "a woman out in the hall." It struck me as particularly unbelievable but worth looking into and all I could find on the subject is the following:

Former Sen. John Edwards, in his first public speech since dropping his White House bid two months ago, praised Democratic rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Saturday, but declined to endorse either candidate.

"I have a very high opinion of both of them," Edwards said at the Young Democrats of North Carolina convention. "We would be blessed as a nation to have either one of them as president."

As for whether an endorsement might be forthcoming:

"When I have something to say, I'll let you know," he said.

Looks like it's just a rumor.

Tags: 2008 Presidential election, Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards (all tags)

Comments

82 Comments

Too late to make a difference

he has no machine in NC, Obama will win the state going away.

by parahammer 2008-03-30 11:35AM | 0 recs
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What a hack.  He's endorsing Hillary?  So pretty much everything he said while running for office was bullshit.  His new found populism was a gimmick to differentiate himself from Clinton and Obama.

by TonyaHardingOption 2008-03-30 11:36AM | 0 recs
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not really I read Obama blew it, Edwards healthcare also has a mandate on adults,

Obama disagrees on mandating adults, so when he met with Edwards things didn't go well.

I agree with Obama a mandate on adults is bad so I am glad he stood his ground on that issue even if it cost him the endorsement

by TruthMatters 2008-03-30 11:38AM | 0 recs
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The endorsement really doesn't mean shit now.  Everybody has chosen sides, and I doubt even former Edwards supporters who have now chosen Obama would switch allegiances as a result.  Basically, all Edwards would do would flush his chances of having any role in a new administration down the toilet.  Easy come, easy go, I guess.  He's not much of a supporter anyway.  He was a pretty weak VP candidate.  Kerry might as well have run with a Bichon Frisee.

by TonyaHardingOption 2008-03-30 11:42AM | 0 recs
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what are you a hillary supporter?

yes the endorsement means something if only because it is free positive media for whoever gets it for at least 3 days.

so don't do that whole endorsement doesn't matter stuff to me, that a HRC argument.

luckily he is NOT a superdelegate, so the race doesn't change.

by TruthMatters 2008-03-30 11:45AM | 0 recs
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I'm an Obama supporter, dumbass.

by TonyaHardingOption 2008-03-30 12:07PM | 0 recs
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I know but I will call out anyone who says that.

thats the sort of thing you expect from Hillary's side saying something doesn't matter. On the Obama side we understand the importance of people and their votes, whether by delegate or vocal endorsement.

by TruthMatters 2008-03-30 12:24PM | 0 recs
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Right, you understand the importance but turn a blind eye when your candidate is surrounded by racist people such as wright.  But that doesn't matter right?

by Scope441 2008-03-30 12:59PM | 0 recs
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You understand people's voices and their votes until you don't...or until it doesn't help your guy.

Michigan and Florida anyone?

by americanincanada 2008-03-30 06:28PM | 0 recs
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troll-rated.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-30 11:59AM | 0 recs
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Sure it does.  Just like with Richardson, it gives HRC a free day of press, if not more.

by mjc888 2008-03-30 12:30PM | 0 recs
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Obama has mandates on adults with kis

by bigbay 2008-03-30 03:12PM | 0 recs
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kids...

by bigbay 2008-03-30 03:12PM | 0 recs
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This is being floated by the Clinton campaign around once a week.

by parahammer 2008-03-30 11:40AM | 0 recs
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Chill.  It is a rumor.  These things sprout up here at mydd and at kos all the time.  Whether its Edwards or Gore.  Frankly, i am shocked that Todd has stooped to making a web-wide diary out of a rumor.

None too smart.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-30 11:58AM | 0 recs
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While it probably is just a rumor...it isn't floating around online. it is floating around at the CDP convention. Not quite the same.

by americanincanada 2008-03-30 06:29PM | 0 recs
You certainly have
named yourself correctly. Read the diary - it's a rumor.
by Xanthe 2008-03-30 04:02PM | 0 recs
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the real question is, will he campaign for her?

I don't know much about NC is he popular there? I mean I guess since they elected him to the Sen. but is it one those things that if he endorsed Obama would the HRC camp say it doesn't mean anything?

by TruthMatters 2008-03-30 11:37AM | 0 recs
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I don't claim to know a plurality of North Carolinians or anything, but my housemate and all of her friends, who are staunch Dems from North Carolina, despise him and say he's an useless senator.

by parkagirl 2008-03-30 07:35PM | 0 recs
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Edwards isn't a senator. At least not anymore.

by americanincanada 2008-03-30 07:41PM | 0 recs
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Sorry for misspeaking: "was a useless senator."

And I'm not bashing Edwards in any way; I like him and was genuinely surprised how anti-Edwards they were.

by parkagirl 2008-03-30 07:47PM | 0 recs
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it might make a difference nationally..you're right, I'm not even sure NC'ers look on him as 'one of their own'.

by bigbay 2008-03-30 11:37AM | 0 recs
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I heard that Dylan was going to be at Woodstock.

Given that Edwards could wind up Attorney General with a carte blanche to go after corporate criminals in an Obama administration, why would he consider endorsing a candidate who is:
a. hopelessly behind in the delegate count?
b. hopelessly behind in the popular vote?
c. hopelessly behind in states won?
d. broke and unable to pay her bills?
e. tanking in the polls?
f. dreaming of taking the party down with a delusional fight before the credentials committee which will, as Donna Brazile explained today, be stacked against her?
g. fighting negatives approaching those of GW Bush?

by vermontprog 2008-03-30 11:37AM | 0 recs
Ouch!

But my sentiments exactly.

by TrueBlueCT 2008-03-30 02:49PM | 0 recs
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"Given that Edwards could wind up Attorney General with a carte blanche to go after corporate criminals in an Obama administration."

Ah, best laugh of the day.

Are you that naive?

Obama will go after corporate criminals like Cheney would go after corporate criminals.

Who supports Obama, what is his record, in regard to his main money men, his PAST ACTIONS?

Boy oh boy, you're funny.

by Marsha1 2008-03-30 03:21PM | 0 recs
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why would he consider endorsing a candidate who is: . . .


You could add to that list


h. who is hated big time by his wife?


 

by Fred in Vermont 2008-03-30 06:17PM | 0 recs
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Wow, this list reads like a BO talking points list.  Keep telling yourselves all these myths and come the convention Hillary will definitely be our next nominee.

by mtnspirit 2008-03-31 08:50AM | 0 recs
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Why? Because he thinks she'd be better, especially on health care and probably overall on the mechanics of getting things done. I disagree, and I hope he doesn't back her, but I can't think of a more principled stand to take than back the trailer because of your beliefs.

That said, go Obama!

by greenvtster 2008-03-31 09:22AM | 0 recs
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Well, I certainly hope it's not true but as an Obama supporter that would definitely suck.  Edwards has been a strong voice for a lot of the same issues that Obama cares about, so his endorsement of Clinton would definitely constitute a rebuke to Obama.  I don't think it will be outcome determinative if it happens, but it would definitely be a big 'get' for Senator Clinton.  

I must say, however, that I wonder how Edwards would explain some of his past --very pointed -- criticism of HRC if he opts to endorse her.  At various points, he cam pretty damn close to calling her corrupt and bought and paid for by lobbyists.  Food for thought, at the very least...

by HSTruman 2008-03-30 11:38AM | 0 recs
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yeah its a blow, if he does endorse I hope the Obama camp has an endorsement to counter this.

as the Edwards endorsement will get days of media play if nothing else happens.

it will also blunt Obama opening bigger leads in the polls, man that sucks

by TruthMatters 2008-03-30 11:40AM | 0 recs
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That would be odd. Most of Obama's supporters moved to Obama. I doubt many would switch to Clinton.
by Becky G 2008-03-30 11:44AM | 0 recs
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Did anyone see this on the political wire.

Why Edwards is Still on the Fence
New York magazine looks at why, nearly two months after dropping out of the presidential race, John Edwards still hasn't endorsed either Sen. Barack Obama or Sen. Hillary Clinton.

"According to a Democratic strategist unaligned with any campaign but with knowledge of the situation gleaned from all three camps, the answer is simple: Obama blew it. Speaking to Edwards on the day he exited the race, Obama came across as glib and aloof. His response to Edwards's imprecations that he make poverty a central part of his agenda was shallow, perfunctory, pat. Clinton, by contrast, engaged Edwards in a lengthy policy discussion. Her affect was solicitous and respectful. When Clinton met Edwards face-to-face in North Carolina ten days later, her approach continued to impress; she even made headway with Elizabeth. Whereas in his Edwards sit-down, Obama dug himself in deeper, getting into a fight with Elizabeth about health care, insisting that his plan is universal (a position she considers a crock), high-handedly criticizing Clinton's plan (and by extension Edwards's) for its insurance mandate."

If this is to be beleived than Liz Edwards or her people must have put this out and it sounds like Edwards was not to happy.

david

by giusd 2008-03-30 11:45AM | 0 recs
Hillary is doing well face-to-face

Along the same theme:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbur ghtrib/opinion/s_559659.html

After a 90 min sit down with long time Clinton uber nemesis Richard Scaife (owner of the Pittsburg Tribune-Review) and his staff, Scaife had this to say about Senator Clinton, "I have a very different impression of Hillary Clinton today than before last Tuesday's meeting -- and it's a very favorable one indeed."

The Tribune-Review will also be interviewing Senator Obama.  Since the audio of the Clinton interview is available online, presumably the Obama interview will be posted as well.  I'm looking forward to listening to both candidates without the teleprompters and speach writers engaged in intelligent discussion with knowledgable people.

by dwmorris 2008-03-30 12:20PM | 0 recs
I guess he wanted to make it "matter"

Sorry, I couldn't resist the snark.

At this point I would be disappointed if he endorsed either candidate. I'm tired of hearing from surrogates playing identity politics. Instead, let the candidates campaign hard but fair in the ten remaining states and stop using third parties so much.

Of course, it's not going to work out that way. Too many people seem to prefer listening to non-candidates speak about what they think the candidate believes and what they'll after being elected.

by professor 2008-03-30 11:45AM | 0 recs
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she is in PA not NC tomorrow, so I don't see any potential for endorsement.

by American1989 2008-03-30 11:46AM | 0 recs
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This is a baseless rumor. Here at the California Democratic Party convention there was a HUGE number of both Obama and Hillary supporters outside the hall, chanting at each other, waving signs, etc. It's out of that mass that this rumor emerged. It has no sourcing and no basis whatsoever.

A lot of folks have come up to us at the Calitics table asking about it, but there is no evidence to suggest this is true, or anything other than some passionate activists wishing, hoping, and speculating.

by eugene 2008-03-30 11:51AM | 0 recs
JRE would look silly. HRC would look great.

If he does endorse for HRC, he would have to couch in the same terms as he did the Iraq war:   Boy was I mistaken about all that stuff I did/said/etc.   Again.

OTOH, he'd have to enumerate how wrong he was about HRC, and how awesome she would have to be for him to endorse, and so it could be smashing for her.

I think he'll get savaged in interviews if he does it, since he'll look at best, inconsistent.   He'd have to commit 110% in order to do this.  He'd have to trash Obama.    I don't see any other way.  For that reason, TruthMatters is right, BO would need a heavy counterweight to help with the news cycle.

I was for JRE, gave $$, etc.  But he doesn't seem to have anything to offer right now.  If he endorses BO at this point it would be a yawner, just another 'stop the party bleeding' endorsement unless he tours the PA mills saying BO is the savior.

I read the 'blew it' story at the New Yorker, and I have to say we never hear the other side.    How was BO received by the Edwardses, and were they truly ready to involved?     Edwards may have been bitter towards BO too, he was ready to accept the momentum behind HRC, but BO shocked them both.

by drowsy 2008-03-30 11:55AM | 0 recs
The easy thing to do politically was to endorse

Obama. The fact that he hasn't means he doesn't think he can win against McCain.

Breaking News: the rhetoric against Hillary by Edwards and Obama are just that, rhetoric. Yes, they have minor disagreements, but they mostly agree on all of the important issues.

Unfortunately, many Edwards and Obama supporters believe the crap that was said not realizing she was getting attacked simply because she was ahead.

Edwards knows that Hillary is one tough cookie and that's exactly what you need to be.

Look for Gore to endorse Hillary as well. He loves his country and knows we need an experienced, tough and level-headed candidate for president. He will put his personal feelings aside and support Hillary, the only candidate who could beat McCain. Unless someone has tapes of her pastor saying God Damn America.

by mmorang 2008-03-30 11:57AM | 0 recs
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Edwards is waiting to endorse because he thinks his 29 delegates might eventually buy him the VP or a cabinet post -- or maybe an ambassadorship.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-03-30 12:03PM | 0 recs
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I don't think Edwards is that shallow and I think he is holding off his endorsement until the final vote in June. I also think any White House would be lucky to have him in any position.

I think the three most important endorsements right now would be Edwards (with delegates),Al Gore and Jimmy Carter but I doubt they will endorse any time soon.

I did notice Richardson coming out today, after having endorsed already, that the big wigs don't get to decide, the voters do, so wonder why he jumped in before the voting was concluded. Is he hearing the same rumors and thinking Edwards might endorse? I don't think so, but no reason to come out after he endorsed to say that nobody should endorse, which implies he should have held his tongue for a while too.

by Justwords 2008-03-30 02:13PM | 0 recs
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"I don't think Edwards is that shallow..."

How shallow do you think he is?

by Liberal Avenger 2008-03-30 02:48PM | 0 recs
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He does not have 29 delegates.  He lost most of his Iowa delegates, and is down to 18 total delegates.

by Onward Virginia Democrats 2008-03-30 02:26PM | 0 recs
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Lesson? Never overestimate Edwards.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-03-30 02:46PM | 0 recs
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I just heard rumor from NC awhile ago, Sen. Edward going to back Hillary up next week(his wife urge him to do so). I hope that would come true and Cruch Barry veryy hard. ( Nahhh Just Kid you guys)

by judas 2008-03-30 12:00PM | 0 recs
Yup.
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and `Baraka' (from which Barack came) means `blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In `08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife's pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you can't afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it's $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright's, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said "Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did."
59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton's and McCain's more than a year before!
60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America.
61.) My wife didn't mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe's comments perfectly sync with Wright's, Meeks', and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren't there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
by gotalife 2008-03-30 12:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Yup.

Is that true Bo was Muslim until his wife changed him? Where did you get these stuff and like to know where should I find out?

by judas 2008-03-30 12:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Yup.

Wow.  Earned.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-30 12:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Yup.

All the things you said are false. For once. Barack is a hebrew name.

Secondly the truth on HRC  would days of lines to report.

by KathyM 2008-03-30 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Yup.

Based upon your post, I strongly question the accuracy of your name.  

by HSTruman 2008-03-30 12:10PM | 0 recs
Another

He killed my dream and now I hate him post

by moffcz 2008-03-30 12:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Yup.

Thanks for posting, interesting information.

by Betsy McCall 2008-03-30 12:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Yup.

There's a ton of offensive garbage here, but I just am curious about the "I won Michigan" statement.

Um, when did Obama say that?  Seems kind of a weird claim to make considering he wasn't on the ballot.

by Bob Fenster 2008-03-30 04:14PM | 0 recs
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I hope he won't endorse Hillary.

by cando 2008-03-30 12:02PM | 0 recs
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It doesn't matter who he endorses. And it's a longshot that the convention will be so close that his paltry number of delegates could make the difference.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-03-30 12:10PM | 0 recs
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I hope he won't endorse Obama.

by mjc888 2008-03-30 12:49PM | 0 recs
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Edwards will be savaged to shreds if endorses HRC.
His name and value diminished. He is not prominent enough to overcame this position. It will be over for him.
I think he is foolish enough to do it. He has nothing to lose. His career is a failure.
by KathyM 2008-03-30 12:03PM | 0 recs
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Sounds like you're not even going to wait until he endorses.
You Obama people are just so full of hope, it's scary.
by skohayes 2008-03-30 03:28PM | 0 recs
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...says the proponent of the candidate that has to depend on a deus ex macchina to win.

At what point does it stop being about Obamacrats and start being about Democrats trying to get their president elected?

by vcalzone 2008-03-30 06:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

honestly, is that necessary?  the last line that is.  He's always said that he would make this an election about the issues, so if he supports HRC, it'll be because he made an issues choice over a heart choice.  

I just don't see how the last line is necessary.  Here's a man who worked hard for everything he's earned, and really wants to make a difference in the country.  This has been basically a split primary so far.  Is it really necessary to denigrate a good citizen for making a decision?  

anyways, it's just rumors for now.

by toonsterwu 2008-03-30 03:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

Ye sit is. BHO has always been good to JRE.
However, deep down I knew he was a snake. A person not to be trusted. Imn the 2004 campaign with Kerry he was more interested in selling himself than he was Kerry. He is rat, who can't be trusted.

BHO is now one of the most important people in the democratic party. He is known now by bllions on the world who track him evryday. JRE would be a brave man if he were to do this.
But as i said, he is a failure. His jealously drives him to HRC.

by KathyM 2008-03-30 04:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

wow, i'm really not sure what to say to this.  I've read a bunch of posts before that have been quite ridiculous from HRC supproters, from Obama supporters, from neutral, here, on dailykos, on other sites.  This one may top it all for me.  

He's a snake?  Is Al Gore a snake then?  Or maybe Al Gore's a rat?  (btw, to other posters, I am not suggesting that at all).  What's a difference between a rat and a snake then?  So, the essence of your argument seems to be this - Obama is famous now, and JRE would be spiting him in this effort.  Really?  So the fact that Obama was supposedly glib in his meeting with JRE ... that holds no water at all because, what, Obama walks on water?  Seriously, that's essentially what you are suggesting with the "Obama is famous now".  And why can't JRE be trusted?  Again, I'm not saying who's right or wrong on the issues, but I am saying is that, JRE has always said that this was an election on issues for him, and on the issues, even the most ardent Obama supporters would agree that JRE is closer to HRC than Obama.

Obama is a good candidate.  I've always been consistent on that regards, and in another election, sure, I can see myself supporting him.  Here's the reality after all is said and done on the Party, no matter what is the nominee - The Democratic party has a clear divide between urban and rural.  That much has been certain for many years now, but it has been exacerbated by this tight primary where everything has been largely split.  There's other smaller divides as well, but that one is a core issue that the Democratic Party has to address at some point.

Edwards isn't going to suddenly lose his supposrt amongst blue collar workers, amongst rural voters.  He's nto going to lose his support from the far left of the party either.  If he wants to continue a career politics, I fully believe those two groups would come to him.

Wow ... I can't believe I just read a post like the above.  Calling JRE a rat and a snake.  This should go to show one thing - for all the complaints from supporters from each camp on supporters of the other camp, both sides can be equally bad.

by toonsterwu 2008-03-31 05:53AM | 0 recs
More wishful thinking

No Way Edwards will endorse Hillary.

John Edwards is not ready to turn his back on everything he campaigned for by endorsing Hillary.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-03-30 12:03PM | 0 recs
Re: More wishful thinking

Which campaign? If Edwards endorses Hillary he would be rejecting his 2008 campaign, but endorsing his  2004 one.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-03-30 12:11PM | 0 recs
What are you talking about? Their

healthcare plans are much more similar than either's healthcare plan is with Obama.

As for NAFTA, we know for sure that Obama doesn't mean what he says when he speaks against it (Edwards was clearly against it and Hillary unambiguously plans to renegotiate it).

As for Iraq, both have been much clearer on withdrawal plans than Obama was (recall Samantha Powers explaining that nothing he says in the campaign is to be taken at face value?)

The main difference between Clinton and Edwards is their stance on lobbyists.   Obama claims to be like Edwards on that but he actually does take lobbyist money and he's in the pockets of power players like Rezko and big contributors like Exelon Nuclear.  

by mnicholson0220 2008-03-30 03:33PM | 0 recs
Edwards is Waiting for two Reasons

1) He wants to play the role of "national healer" in June.  There needs to be a voice from th trenches that tries to unite the supporters of the victor and the supporters of the vanquished.  The only perosn for that job...the job of uniting the party is John Edwards and he knows it.

2) He wants a Primetime convention speech, and he'll get it by being neutral and adnering to #1 above.  Were he to endorse HRC and she not prevail, his chances of a PT speech would be vastly diminshed.

Bunk.

BTW, if Al Gore weighs in, it will only be because one party of another went nuclear (or was going to go nuclear) and he felt compelled to end the race...which it would.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-30 12:06PM | 0 recs
I hope he endorses HRC. It would be

bold and the right thing to do.  We need Edwards and we need Hillary.  This will bring about serious change in healthcare for the US.

by Molee 2008-03-30 12:06PM | 0 recs
Re: I hope he endorses HRC. It would be

And we would also need a much more Democratic Congress to get any kind of change in healthcare.  

by Toddwell 2008-03-30 12:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

He didn't look like he was ready to endorse when I saw the clip on television.  

But lately, I think that Clinton has been talking more in specifics about the economy and health care than Obama.  Just my observation, and those are issues that Edwards cares more about.

by Scotch 2008-03-30 12:19PM | 0 recs
I don't think anyone really knows.

One of the comments on Politico say Edwards' was leaning toward an Obama endorsement.  He's stayed neutral this long, I don't see why he would add his two cents now.

by venavena 2008-03-30 12:20PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't think anyone really knows.

Sorry, I just actually read the piece.  I think if it's true he would lean more Clinton's way.

"One of the most interesting paragraphs written this cycle is by NEW YORK magazine's John Heilemann, on why Senator EDWARDS has not endorsed Senator Obama:

"Speaking to Edwards on the day he exited the race, Obama came across as glib and aloof. His response to Edwards's imprecations that he make poverty a central part of his agenda was shallow, perfunctory, pat. Clinton, by contrast, engaged Edwards in a lengthy policy discussion. Her affect was solicitous and respectful. When Clinton met Edwards face-to-face in North Carolina ten days later, her approach continued to impress; she even made headway with Elizabeth. Whereas in his Edwards sit-down, Obama dug himself in deeper, getting into a fight with Elizabeth about health care, insisting that his plan is universal (a position she considers a crock), high-handedly criticizing Clinton's plan (and by extension Edwards's) for its insurance mandate."

REALITY CHECK: It's true that Senator Obama didn't help himself with these conversations. But it's not clear that Senator Edwards would have endorsed him, anyway. The differences between their health plans are greater than most reporters appreciate, and we doubt that an endorsement was as imminent as Heilemann assumes."

http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/t hread.cfm?catid=7&subcatid=41&th readid=558587

by venavena 2008-03-30 12:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

From the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition /asection/la-na-health30mar30,1,6373408. story):

She [Elizabeth Edwards] declined Saturday to make an endorsement in the presidential race. But Edwards said she favored Hillary Rodham Clinton's healthcare plan over Barack Obama's.

"Sen. Clinton's plan is a great plan" that closely resembles John Edwards' proposal, she said. Clinton's plan mandates that every American be insured. Elizabeth Edwards said only universal healthcare would resolve one of the problems plaguing the healthcare system -- its soaring cost.

"Until we get rid of the need for hospitals and other providers to cover the costs of people who are not covered . . . the overall cost is not going to go down," she said. "The only real cost savings comes when you have universality."


by LakersFan 2008-03-30 02:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

I think a Clinton/Edwards ticket would have a great chance to win in November.  I don't believe Edwards is only endorsing Hillary because he will make her VP or attorney  General.  Hillary is the tested candidate and you know she will be a champion for progressive causes.  Obama is a question mark and there are doubts he can win in November.  I personally think he can't.  An Edwards endorsement for Hillary would be a great thing to give her campaign some added momentum.

by karajan72 2008-03-30 02:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

I totally agree with you and this is something I have said for a while.  I was an Edwards supporter and was very sad when he had to drop out.

Hillary has been the only candidate who has made poverty and needs of the poor.  Edwards would be an excellent compliment to Hillary, keep her honest and keep Bill out of the White House LOL

Clinton/Edwards.... I like the sound of it.

by stefystef 2008-03-30 06:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

I can guarantee that if Edwards was "supposedly" leaning towards endorsing Obama, most of the posters here would be singing in the aisles, complimenting Edwards on his astute choice and how his endorsement would be another "nail in the coffin" for Clinton.

What is sad is that Obama supporters cannot swallow that Clinton does represent nearly 50% of the Democratic party and that by constantly slamming Clinton at every turn will do more damage to Obama's chances in the General than you are willing to acknowledge.  

But then, of course, all Obama supporters will just go back and blame Senator Clinton that it was all her fault...because, hey, if Obama can't win on his own merits, it must be some else's fault.

How pathetic.

Questions Surround Obama's Candidacy:
http://questionbarackobama.blogspot.com

by Steven B 2008-03-30 03:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

But, of course, when Hillary can't win on her own merits, it's Obama's fault.

by vcalzone 2008-03-30 06:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

Nobody here is going to beg you for your vote. Decide what you want to do, and keep in mind that even if McCain gets the Presidency, Hillary has no shot of winning in 2012. She can barely match him now, you think she can do it when he's the incumbent?

by vcalzone 2008-03-30 06:04PM | 0 recs
This would be delicious

...if only to hear the caterwauling from the netroots. Lots of cognitive dissonance.

by techfidel 2008-03-30 04:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

It will matter in that it will help Hillary push back the "its over!" meme being pushed by Camp Obama. Plus good press coverage for Hillary for a change plus he can help in NC

by rossinatl 2008-03-30 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

Edwards is an opportunist, first and foremost. He ain't endorsing for the same reason Richardson waited so long to endorse: He wants to make sure he is on the winning side!

PS: Does anybody know how his wife is doing?

by ND1979 2008-03-31 06:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

She is doing well enough to generously praise Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan over Obama's to the LA Times yesterday.

by americanincanada 2008-03-31 08:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

BTW: Steven's right. Remember how Edwards was winning these Blogpolls by large margins not long ago? Now that he is rumored to be supporting HRC (not to meantion that he thinks that OB is a "pussy") the Johnny-come-latelys that make up the Obama-supporters hate him. Truth is most of them never supported Edwards because they weren't around until after Iowa. Venting..... Sorry.

by ND1979 2008-03-31 06:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards Endorsing?

I'm extremely skeptical, given the state of the race right now, that any particularly high-profile Democrat would throw in against Obama. I'm not going to cite the math (since we've all seen it and will draw whatever conclusions we like), but I think most people will agree that Clinton's odds of securing the nomination are somewhat long right now, and are narrowing as time passes without catastrophe in the Obama camp.

Granted, Richardson endorsed Obama the other day, and he did so I believe in part because he sees which way the wind is blowing. Whether his forecast will be correct is an open question to some, but from a tactical standpoint it is sensible.

A high-profile Clinton endorsement does not make sense to me tactically on the part of the endorser. What is gained? Well, presumably some momentum in favor of that candidate who may best represent your values. What is lost? Currency with the frontrunner, which seems more valuable if you're interested in pursuing your own agenda.

I predict neither Edwards nor Gore will move until it's absolutely crystal clear who the nominee will be or if circumstances degrade to the point where a move must be made for the good of the party. But neither is true at this point.

by nameless 2008-03-31 12:54PM | 0 recs

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