Fox's story about Jeremiah Wright is more than fair. This is the vetting the main stream media and people like you should have been doing.

I am glad this is coming out now rather than in October.

I don't want to lose another election to the Republicans by nominating an unvetted candidate with major problems in his background.

Fox's story about Jeremiah Wright is more than fair.

Fox is more than fair. Guilt by association is something the main stream media should be doing.

I won't bother to list, again, the potential for blowback here.

Is there a petition calling for MSNBC to stop attacking Hillary?  just curious...

And, unfortunately, there's even more that the MSM has not YET touched, about Obama. I think it's gonna get worse. When Democrats learn that the MSM is not their friends, no matter who they support for the Democratic nomination, maybe they can win a GE election.

Todd, how about cleaning up on your own blog?

If I look at the recommended diaries on MyDD, FOX actually looks like a unbiased news channel indeed.

I think it's free speech.  They are also catering to their general audience, which they have a right to.  

I agree - where is the petition to ask Olbermann to stop comparing HRC to David Duke?

This is really funny.

When you're unvetted and inexperienced and have plenty to hide from the media, and still decides to run for President - this is what happens.

That Fox carries through with investigative reporting on Obama while the other networks don't say a lot more about the other networks than it says about Fox.

Let Obama walk in Hillary's shoes for a while. That will make him a better candidate in 2016 - when he hopefully is tested, vetted and ready to go.

So..anyone asks a question about Wright and it's a smear?

Please, this will be the biggest swiftboat attempt in the GE and you just want to pretend it's a non-issue and paint Obama the victim.

I'll wait for the MSNBC petition...

Obama should get ahead of this story about his former pastor.

This just reminds of how Kerry got swiftboated , this story is getting out of hand and his campaign is sitting back hoping it would go away .

It is going to be on the sunday shows.

There is trouble brewing in the horizon over this story among ordinary americans.

This is the beginning of his swiftboating and he is not handling it well.

Obama is yet to answer questions regarding Rezko.  And I hope he will address the relation between his earmarks for The University of Chicago and his wife's salary increase.  The media should also explore Obama's relationship to Alexi Giannoulias and organized crime in Chicago, Illinois.

I went ahead and signed the petition b/c I can't stand the FOX smear machine and Obama deserves better. With that being said, how about a petition for MSNBC end it's 'bashing on Hillary" parade? I want fair coverage for both candidates.

I also desire to know why Obama was appointed to a state Senate committee on Pensions and Investments at the very same time Levine and Rezko were lobbying Blagojevich and Illinois state legislators to block consolidation of Illinois state pensions.  Was Obama appointed to that position for a sole three months in order to ensure that consolidation would not interrupt the kickback scheme Levine and Rezko orchestrated?  Is this why Obama was the recipient of funds obtained through the kickback scheme?  Is this why Rezko helped Obama purchase the Kenwood mansion?  And why was Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state Treasurer Obama endorsed, Rezko's banker?  

LOL! You've got to be kidding?

Obama is virtually a protected rare American species, a Democratic politician supported by nearly every MSM outlet including MSNBC, CNN, NYT, WAPO etc.

No thanks, I'll save my energy for someone who really needs the help. That person being Hillary Clinton.

Todd,

Thanks for posting the link to that petition.  By now you have probably read the comments in this thread left by Hillary supporters.

I have nothing to say-  they speak for themselves.

I kinda thought that most folks on MyDD and the guys at Fox News were on the same page about Obama...

Todd, is this some sort of double reverse snark or something? Any number of MyDD diaries on a good day could pass for Faux News front page stories about Obama. And remember that's on a good day.

Sure, I'll sign it.

Right after I sign the petition that you pass around protesting the horrible treatment of Clinton by Olbermann and MSNBC.

There's a growing and very angry bunch out here, who would normally leap on Fox, except that we can't see straight because of the unfair and profoundly misogynist treatment of Clinton on left, center, and right wing media alike.  And how powerless and ineffective we've been in combatting it. (Where's the petition about Olbermann's outrageous spittle-flecked tirade?)
And because we believe Obama has either initiated or fostered much of it, and certainly profited immensely by it.  The race-baiting campaign which for me started even before the ridiculous Johnson-MLK flap with talking points about the Bradley effect after New Hampshire, repeated over and over, all empirical evidence to the contrary, is a sad example.  Watching Obama's campaign turn Hillary into a racist with the help of the media has been enormously dispiriting.  
And, no, she's never been called the n word, but try putting Hillary and c--t into google and you get 342,000 entries.  Hillary and b-tch gets you 566,000.  

If Obama cannot stand the heat, then he must leave the kitchen, even if that kitchen was purchased with Rezko cash and with the salary increase his wife obtained as a result of the earmarks he submitted on behalf of the University of Chicago.

...with that request on mydd.

any smear against obama seems to be fair game on this site.

No, I cannot support your petition.  Obama has not been properly vetted and I cannot support a canidate that we know little off.  I cannot support a canidate who has a 20yr tie to a bigotted, hate mongering pastor that he still has attached to his campaign.

If it takes Fox to do it, so be it but that is because the main stream media has abandoned its job and many liberal blogs have not had the guts to confront what we all know willhappen in the general if Barrack is the nominee.

The Repthug. attack machine will swiftboat him and make Kerry look like child's play as compared to what will happen to BO.

I can see the add now, a spilt scream with Rev. J Wright spouting his hate filled speech, 'God damn America' with BO on the other side, saying 'Just words!'

So, sorry.

Good job Todd. You created this monster. Maybe it's time that you tell you followers it's time to quit the bullshit, get behind the Democratic nominee or they are gone from the site. You're gonna have to do it sooner or later. Clean up this mess tghat you helped create.

-DailyKos is a hate site.
-Kieth Olbermann is reprehensible
-Fox News does fair and important investigative reporting that the other networks are too afraid to do.

Got it.

Where is the petition to hold Keith Olberman accountable for linking David Duke's name with the great senator of NY, Hillary Clinton?

Where were you on that?

That is unforgiveable.  The Clinton's are not racist and well know that they stoked the Geraldine Ferarro story further polarizing the races and smearing the Clintons.

Your plea is falling on deaf ears.

IMO, Fox news and I can't believe that I'm saying this has been THE MOST FAIR with it's election coverage and that has been proven by studies.  MSNBC is an arm of the DNC and has been officially dubbed by my family as The Obama Network all day long.

I know that I will go back to hating Fox but for now, they have been fair with their coverage on BOTH of the democratic canidates. I'm sorry but I can't say that of MessSNBC, CNN and the others.

If the MSM would have vetted Obama to begin with, then Fox doing it for them in a Foxy fashion would not be newsworthy. Where was the "progressive community" in calling out the misinformation and media bias against Hillary? Where? Right, I remember you were all gleefully dancing around the campfire with the Republicans, parroting their talking points. Where was the "progressive community" in setting the record straight the Hillary is NOT a racist? Where? Oh, right, how could I forget that you were the ones spreading the smear like a plague. I will not sign. Boot me from myDD, but I will not. The blatant hypocrisy is beyond belief.

People seem to want one of two things, either for Obama to reject the more radical remarks made by Wright or reject and denounce Wright himself.
On the first part, he has done this several times in the pasat and, to his credit, continues to do so without whining about it.
Consider this scenario: One month from now somebody replays Ferraro's comments and asks Clinton to disavow them. Would that be fair to do? And do you think Clinton is going to say "Of course I reject and denounce them" or "Look folks, that is old news, I already did in the paast and I resent them coming up again."?
My sense is it would be the latter.
On the second request. Wright represents somewhat of a father figure for Obama. Now, my father was an alcoholic bigot who would frequently tell off color racist jokes and signed a petition to keep AA's from moving into our neighborhood. In addition to that, he also taught me about the necessity for honesty, hard work and the need to remain true to myself.
Because part of who or what he was was a negative, which I have rejected, do I have to denounce him as an individual? Anybody that tells me I would have to can go ... .

if this thread is any indication.

This is ugly ugly shit people, wake up.

I've intended to be a peacemaker here, but this thread is just outrageous, so let me just get this out there, and if anyone wants to have a discussion (which I doubt) then I'm willing to apologize if I'm wrong, but--

I thought Democrats had real discussions. Not violent brow beating sessions.

The nature of this campaign has become intolerable. Remember back when this election began, the meme was: "look at all the terrific Democratic candidates!" Em were exciting times to be a liberal.

Where the F*ck did that go?

Here's what I see:

1. People who call themselves progressives willing to throw away their values and side with FOX news because they are blinded by their emotional attachment to their candidate.

2. Dems with a Republican true believer's unwillingness to accept the truth. For example:
--I don't blame her for it, but HRC started the campaign's nastiness.

Accept that folks.

I understand that it was necessary for her to stay in the campaign--her only other option was to quit. THINK ABOUT IT. Barack Obama had no need to go ultra-negative--he had already won! HRC needed a "comeback," remember that? Which leads us to:

3. Republican style cognitive dissonance: Some people here vehemently claim that Barack Obama is the only one playing dirty and then turn around and say it's great that Hillary has played so sh*t-filthy dirty because "we need a fighter." Reality check: this is what it's like to be Republican.

4. Extremely Republican-esque sexist and racist content in this thread. WOW!

5. HRC has already lost the portion of the election determined by the popular vote. Now, to win, her campaign must cast doubt on the "validity" of those democratically held contests and on the candidate who won that election. Her argument must be that the voting part of the "election" is invalid. That is a valid, legal path to victory, yes, but certainly an unseemly one. If you're in Clinton's camp, it is now time for desperate measures and I acknowledge that all is fair in LW&P.

But if the Democratic party casts aside these values: anti-corporate lobbyists, anti war, people-powered politics, democracy rules, and winning without violence...

for any candidate, no matter how "deserving"

then I fear that, whoever the next president,

the neo-con Repubs, with their pandering to patriotism, sexism, scandalism and knee jerk tribalism have already won.

We've simply joined them.

My name id Old Glory, John my friend to the right is a War Hero. He and his Uncle Sam have a few questions for you Barack Obama. Please do us the courtesy of meeting us out back this fall!
"God-Damn" Who????

The fact most commenters seem to defend a FOX story is the only illustration I need that this primary has gone on for too long.
And it is not like Todd is particularly sympathetic to Obama. Au contraire.

If a bunch of Democrats on a Democratic blog site can't agree that this is vile stuff, there is zero hope for winning any election, and perhaps we do not deserve to win.  I don't know what is going on here.  It is frightening, it's worse than what the GOP hands out because we're attacking our own so viciously and on the terms they use. What's worse is when it is called to the groups attention, people are actually defending this video.  If this is our party under the stress of a close primary perhaps we are not ready to govern.

...and it has barely begun! Geez! Gimme a break! Obama has nothing going for him except a nice speaking style and Axelrod doing a great job of packaging Obama for the media and smearing Hillary. It's disgusting! It reeks! I can't stand the freaking double standard!

What in the hell do you think the media would do to Hillary if she had belonged to a racist church for 20 years? She wouldn't even be a candidate, people! Get real!

Obama is from the anti-American, anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian far left. You can hear that in Rev. Wright's rants and in Michele Obama's speeches and interviews like the one the New Yorker did recently (linked, below). Obama's first mentor was the communist Frank Marshall Davis. Anyone naive enough to think the GOP will ignore this? (Link, below)

And then, there's Obama's pitiful record in Chicago and the US Senate. All we need are the facts and it becomes abundantly clear that Obama has no chance in the GE. That being the case, it's imperative we have the truth now so we can nominate the best candidate to win in November.

Obama mentor [Frank Davis] identified as communist
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/reada rt.cgi?ArtNum=216701

Profiles: The Other Obama: Reporting & Essays: The New Yorker
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/ 03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?printable=tr ue

Are you kidding?? It's about time the media starts to examine, unveil and tell the people the truth about Obama.  If they had done their job and the bloggers had had some integrity and honesty, Obama would not have been in this mess.  He would have been vetted a long time ago.  I am sick of blaming the Clintons for everything.  I will now hold accountable MSNBC, HUFFPO, AMERICABLOG, Andrew Sullivan, DKOS and J Marshall and many so called journalists.  They are all ex Republicans and they do not give a damn about the Democratic party.  They are to blame, not Clinton!!!!The Dems will lose in NOV, thanks to thos e morons!!!!

Obama was to be the anti-racial candidate, the great uniter, the guy who could bring all Americans together. A Great American Dr King, dreamed of an America where people would be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. Then there is Pastor Wright, who does not judge anyone by the content of their character, ONLY by the color of their skin. And he would judge me only by the color of my skin. This great country is made up of people whose ancestors were from all over the world. We come in many colors. We want to only be judged by the content of our character. Racists come in all colors, and racism is unacceptable no matter what color mouth it comes out of!

Why is it that when someone actually does a real story related to Obama, rather than some puff piece claiming he's the messiah, that we are supposed to get all upset and start boycotting and protesting? It's called vetting, folks. And if it isn't done now, when it should be, it will most certainly get played non-stop in the GE after Obama has been allowed to slide by.

I also think it's interesting that some are only concerned when the press does an unfavorable story on Obama. They yawn and make excuses when blatant misogyny and hate is directed toward Clinton.

Sorry, boys, I'm not going to play. Real progressives get upset and take action against sexism, even if it doesn't benefit their preferred candidate. They also get upset with their preferred candidate when they use blatant misogyny and race-baiting to win. For 40+ years, male liberals have expected women to be front and center out supporting their causes. But strangely enough, few of them can be bothered when our rights are in the balance. This election has been a real revelation to me. Frankly, I've had it. You'll have to continue playing your games alone. I won't be there to help.

How does this help Obama????

Is this the chickens coming home to roost?  Get used to it.  This is what should have been going on all along.  He got a free ride.  Now he has to pay the piper.  

For those claiming that Fox news is legitimate "vetting" be very aware of what you're asking for:

You're asking for this campaign to get dirtier, less issue oriented and less about the substantive qualifications to be the president...

Not better.

You are asking for a Republican style tribal popularity contest where the issues are irrelevant because a candidate knows somebody who said something.

Well,

IF you get your way, then Hillary is going to finally get "vetted" too. When M.Lewinsky comes back up, and we start hearing about Bill and Hillary's background, real-estate deals, tax returns, "protesting the US while on foreign soil!!!!" and who has Bill been sleeping with since he left office (?) (because we're already seeing the wing-nuts salivating over it) and on and on and on.

HRC has not received a presidential candidate's full FOx news "vetting" yet either, only the tip of a very ugly ice-berg. If you don't believe that then you either know nothing about political campaigns and why people use negative campaigning or you're lying to yourself.

And when you legitimize fox news lies and propaganda as "vetting" who's going to take your boy who cried wolf tears seriously when we're hearing about Hillary's lesbian lover said about men or Bill's new catch or whatever insignificant lies they make up?

This is the Democratic party is losing its credibility....

I've watched the video and I still won't sign it. If I remember, there is a movie that the right wing nuts are trying to get put out on Hillary that has attacks from Dick Morris, Hannity, Mike Levine and Coulter. Hillary has gone to court to stop it's distribution.

Where were the progressives to stop the distribution of that movie? Where were the blogs led by their male owners leading the charge to support Hillary in her fight?
Where were they, I ask! :crickets!

Monica, real estate deals, Rose Law Firm, tax returns, etc- this is old news, that has been investigated for 10 years by Republicans and a special prosecutor, and has already been "vetted" and easily refuted. Everyone knows about Monica, because the right wing never stopped talking about her.
That's what vetting is, and Hillary's already been through the worst the Republicans could throw at her husband during his presidency, and her last 8 years as Senator.
Obama has never been subjected to this type of scrutiny.

Good luck but don't expect a lot of sympathy from the Hillary supporters. At least sympathy/support expressed toward progressive bloggers.

Most of you stood silent while the MSM went after her.Worse, many of you gleefully piled on along with them.

We kept telling you that it would hit Obama but you refused to listen. Instead you drank the Kool Aid that he was "different" and the MSM also wanted a "Democratic Reagan."

So you don't dare guilt trip us about how we don't belong at a "democratic blog." Most of us have been fighting a two front war defending Hillary from the onslaught powered both by progressives and the right. That doesn't make us any less of a democratic.

Moreover, Obama has to deal with his relationship to Wright. His history of playing the race card in the campaign is not going to make it easy for him. But it has to be done. Telling Fox News etc. to "shut up" won't work the same way it did with the Hillary supporters. You can't simply troll rate them away.

This is second day I've read this site, and my first post.

It makes me sad.

A couple of moths ago I was a contented neutral democrat. We had all great candidates, and we were going to take everything back.

I'd been a clinton supporter through everything, at least until the Marc Rich Pardon. That did cause me to doubt myself.

However the ugly and dishonest scorched-earth tactics by the Clinton campaign and the inexplicable endorsement of them by you folks just baffles me.

She has so destroyed herself- with your help- in the eyes of people like myself, I can't imagine her winning the general.

Now you and she want to destroy our remaining chance, and forever give up the courts, forever become the nation of torture? All because Hillary is more important than those things?

Yeah, I'm a little sympathically-challenged right now. Candidate Obama has been the recipient of a media love-fest, while Clinton has been called every name in the book, from bitch to c*** (See Digby writing about "Citizens United Not Timid). Somehow I missed the petition you were passing around when she was getting crapped on. She's constantly been called on to drop out, been ridiculed and stomped on, told she is only where she is because her husband fooled around.

What do you guys want? Barack Obama associated with this guy for 20 years. Wright said what he said. Nobody forced him to say it. Barack knew what he was about. The man says horrible, inflammatory things. And you want us to sign a petition about it?

Obama is going to lose this election if he's the nominee. America will get sick on this video. You think people are going to vote for a man whose "spiritual mentor" espouses hate against this country? Seven years after September 11?

Pardon me if I can't stand with you to cover Mr. Obama's butt. He's a grown up. He made his choices. These aren't baseless allegations, they are words on video tape. Why aren't you decrying that horrible preacher for his sexism? For assuming that Hillary Clinton has never experienced discrimination because she is merely a woman?

You Obama supporters are so drunk on your idol worship that you don't even see this wave coming at you. It is already over.

Petition that.

idol worship?  Please.  What we do know is that Hillary Clinton is death to the Democratic Party.

No Clinton is the democratic party.  and that is the truth, you who know so little about politics.  Obama deserves these attacks because he will not repute the man Wright and because frankly, he has said these same things when it comes to Iraq.  He is part of the blame America first crowd, and the far left in this country, they never win national elections precisely because of this kind of thing.  Obama has expressed the same kind of thoughts but in less inflammatory language when he blames America for the Iraq war, saying we were wrong to have done it, and need to retreat from the foreign policies of Bush, but he insists on blaming America for it, instead of finding a way to be against the war without being against America, and he is wrong to say the things he does about foreign policy with such a naive and left point of view.  Americans do not want to be wrong, responsible for criminal charges etc, and with his positions we could actually be charged in international court.

Obama is responsible for his spiritual adviser at least as much as Clinton is for one of her fund raisers Ferraro, and he should have never had this man on his spiritual and political campaign in the first place, and Obama very well knew this going in and did nothing to keep this from happening by keeping Wright on his campaign staff.  The Obama supporters and Kieth Oberfart had plenty to say about that, this stinks of hypocrisy.  You Obama supporters continue to bring up this trash about Clinton at the same time you expect support for going after anyone for being against Obama.  Well, you don't deserve it at all.  You have spent (even above in comments), time and energy trashing Clinton with the most vile republican talking points, and Clinton has been a democrat longer than most of Obama supporters have even been alive.  Give me a break, you don't deserve any support on this issue, what a bunch of cry babies you are.  Real democrats do support Hillary and in fact more democrats support Clinton than Obama, Obama gets a lot of his support from kids, college kind, but not all support him, many do support Clinton, AA community who don't even realize that Obama's positions would actually be worse for then than Clinton's especially on health care, because Obama will never help them get universal health care because he doesn't even support it. And far left anti-war and latte types who are progressive when it suits them but not necessarily democrats, who are not all so far left.  The actual base of the democrat party does support Clinton, not Obama, and those far left party types like Bill Bradley, Kerry, Kennedy, who have no love for Clinton because they are jealous of both Clintons because they have consistently won, where the far left never wins national elections.  Movements do not win elections.  The base of the democratic party must support our candidate this fall or we cannot win the White House, that base supports Clinton, not Obama and all your hate filed posts aside, Clinton could and would represent the democratic base a hellofa lot better than the snake oil salesman rhetoric of Obama's.  Here is a man who blithely says he passed legislation protecting people from nuclear discharge, but the truth is he a. didn't even get the legislation passed, and b. before that he watered it down to suit the executives that backed him from the nuclear industry into not much more than a request to notify in the case of discharge.

All the rhetoric of Obama's is so much hot air, he doesn't even believe it himself, its a smoke and mirrors type of thing, yet 91% of the AA community is overlooking their own self interest because of the color of his skin.  That to me is the real tragedy, that Obama and the perverted media has convinced them that either of the Clintons are racist, but blatant sexism is not only tolerated but promoted.

How many petitions did you sign to stop the Hillary bashing...which by the way is still going on...? I will not sign your petition. It is refreshing to see BO getting some heat for a change! And I hope NBC joins in before it's too late! susanclare...Hillary is the change we really need!!!!!!!!!!